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@Red apologies ... it's a habit of mine
I think its because most of us are british. Sarcasm, formality and grumpiness. its the british way
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hahaha @War
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@Red completely ... glad you get it :) yw ... hang with us :)
everyone would love the politeness :D
anyway, i'll follow your idea.
never thought you could be an asshole too in a good way :D
like a positive asshole
just as we say He's a hacker. No he is an ethical hacker
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@Sarah can't disagree ... almost a requirement these days otherwise we would go mad
or maybe we already did
@ARr0w no no no ... you have it all wrong ... he's a "failed programmer that means well"
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12:02
out of curiosity, do you all just work solely with sql and databases as a career and what's that like
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@Red I make it a point to try not to but the dam thing keeps coming back
stay here long enough and you'll learn LINQ
you won't know a single bit of SQL ... but you'll be a LINQ expert
@red i do sql as little as possible. I'm mostly a c# programmer. I only work in a team of 3 though, and i probably know sql the most out of the 3 of us. I'm hardly an expert though. Just an ambitious noobie
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@Sarah you poor woman ... i feel your pain
AM I THE ONLY ONE HERE WHO LIKES SQL???
its not so bad. In my last job I had to code with Cobol :S
@shaneis i like the elegance of it sometimes, and i like it when i figure out how to achieve something. Mostly though its just data. data isnt fun
12:05
Hi all
@Sarah :'(
hey @Alex
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brb food run ... requirement of this madness
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@Shaneis i'd say after working on a few different languages and things on my degree, I enjoy databases and sql the most and I think that makes me a bit weird
Hey Sheneis
@alex heya
12:06
Data is fun, data can be fun...
Hey Sarah
I knew you were cool @Red
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maybe it's just cause of my deep hatred of c#
ban @red
I like SQL. It doesn't always like me back
12:06
@Red ooohhhh thankfully @War is gone
hey @SankarRaj
how can you have c#? it never hurt anyone
@Alex ha yeah, it's a cruel mistress...
hate*
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@Sarah it's the main language I learned on my apprenticeship then in my first year of uni and I'm just so tired of it
n even then I'm still p bad with it
@War i like your way! :P
12:08
@Shaneis Hi dude :)
@red its used pretty extensively in business. There are much worse languages out there I promise you. I learn with VB6, and did VB.net, JAVA & C++ at uni
c# is easy compared to those
@Sarah, Shaneis have allergy issues with c-sharp.
@Sarah are you sure?
is it not a nerd version of PowerShell :)
@ARr0w me too
12:09
@SankarRaj, you don't say? i'll pour alot of c# here then, i guess.
@ARr0w more like hayfever with it...
@SankarRaj it feels easier at least. maybe i just havent used the others in a while
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@Sarah i've only done a bit of java out of those, but compared to c# when I've learned php, sql and javascript I've actually really enjoyed working with those
@ARr0w :D :D
@Shaneis oh. You'd flood this place with the hay-fever then.
@Sarah what's your skill set? (how many languages have you worked on)?
@Sami good morning. Just saw the msg. Sowi for delaying.
12:12
@Sarah VB.NET is very easiest as well as most dreaded now...
wow, can't believe SQL lost to C#.... :(
@arrow um, all of them? basic, cobol, VB6, VB.net, c, c++, C#, NQC, Java, html, css, sql, mysql.......and i'm probably forgetting some. Also use an internal language that doesn't really have a name. and just because i can use the above, i'm really not very good with most of them :P
hi @Alex , hi @SankarRaj & hi @Red
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o/
wb @AndyK
12:17
Cheers Sarah
Hey Andy
@AndyK Hi dude :) how is going?
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there's definitely a lot more energy in here than the php chat that's for sure
I'm allrite matey
busy, trying to juggle several things in the same time
multi processing unit :D
12:23
I wish mate
I'm a man, only a man
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whey hey, finally handed in my final assessment of the year \o/
@red congrats
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@Shaneis eh ??? i saw that!!!
@ARr0w my way?
@Shaneis I like SQL
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@Red yeh it's early yet ... wait til this time on a thursday ... most of this lot are dead by then
it takes them the weekend to reincarnate
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12:29
hahaha
@War yeah your way.
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lol oh that
wait wait wait wait...this room exists on the weekends? SO doesn't just shutdown???
That's a recent development... they used to be only during business hours :)
@Alex I KNEW IT!!!
12:31
#lmao
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@Shaneis you know it does ... it's when all your pings build up
@Sarah um. still, you know multiple languages and that's good :)
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you then have to spend all monday ignoring them
@ARr0w I do too ... English ... C#
@War it's getting easier with practice :)
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@Shaneis lol
12:33
@War i'd like to see your code in English
xD
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I spend the weekends tinkering with new ideas
@ARr0w IF (YOU PISS ME OFF) { I Get Angry! }
quality huh!
cool, now try with linq.
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sentence.With(words).Makes(sense);
done
oh it needs more lambda
if (Me.IsTicked) { Me.GetAngry(); }
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sentence
   .With(() => words)
   .Construct(() => sense)
   .ToEnglish();
12:35
@War but it does fail with the wives, you know?

Wive says to husband, "bring 1 pack of milk and if(they have eggs){bring 6;}"

Husband goes and sees that the shop has eggs, so he brings 6 packs of milk.

then the rest is history for the husband.
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there ya go
IF @war.find(LINQ) {Rejoyce()}
ELSE {@war.status = 'sad']
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i'm already learning linq
i need to get out of here
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lol
poor red ... this is the age of enlightenment for you my friend
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or the start of a massive downward spiral
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12:37
give it time ... we will have you writing C# too
and in no time, @red
@red if you dont wish to become bitter and hate your chosen career, id run away now
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the downward spiral comes in the form of "omg I can now build this, that, and this, and this ..."
I was going to try but I literally went if @shaneis.find()... eh I give up!!
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I wonder if posting razor syntax pings a user on here ...
@Html.HiThere()
12:38
haha. @Shaneis, how about shaneis.find(redbull == redbull.Yes)
I like the lambda in that
Is Java seen as a difficult programming language?
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talk about timing
i'm just popping open a can of redbull
hi, alex!! :)
@CrashBandicoot In some circles, yes
12:39
darn
Hi ARr0w
But, apparently job prospects are good with java
crashbandic, bro, all languages have different syntax same concept (oop)
It's the first lang taught at uni in many parts of the world
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@CrashBandicoot please refrain from using such bad language in here ... we do have some standards you know ... now where did I put them
12:40
@Alex, morning for you i presume?
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@Shaneis he used the J word again
Yup, morning
I said d a r n
Nothing bad about that
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@Alex it's mad cause I'm in my 2nd year of uni and I did an apprentice and I've probably wrote like 10 lines of java in that time
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@Alex morning :)
12:40
Nah, that's OK. It's the J word that gets us upset
@War Javascript?
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@Shaneis you keep saying that
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javascript is a beautiful language
no ragrets
Sorry xD
12:41
@War! He said a bad word!!!
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no J***
^
Javascript?
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I can't bring myself to type it
Another awful lang: L*sp
oh you mean NoJava, like NoSql?
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12:41
@Shaneis C# is an abbreviation for NoJava
Did both J*** and Lsp in one semester at uni. Then 3+ years of J** at work
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i've gone too far down the rabbit hole when I'm laughing at these programming jokes
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@Alex oh jeez
Anyone want to see if i can make @war scared
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you poor guy
are you ok @Alex ?
12:42
@War you misspelled abomination...
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should we call you a medic?
Object-Oriented Programming is SO difficult
@Sarah yes
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java java java java java java java java java java java java java java java java java
@war .....Swift!
12:42
The years of therapy have helped, @War
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inb4 banned
Now if only the medication wouldn't wear off...
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@Red that's making me ill
I'm enjoying this, I'm going to get a coffee, sit back and watch
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12:44
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@War is that an image for ants
@War my feelings exactly when it comes to the J word
I'm off to get lunch anyway. Try not to kill each other whilst im away
Hi guys! Where can i get location information database to show to the user just like twitter?
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@Sarah get a chocolate muffin
12:45
anybody know?
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treat yourself
Java choc chip frappuccino
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@AkashBose I think there's a way to look it up / figure it out by ip range ... can't remember the details though
Yes!
you are right. IP locations could work
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@Sarah and there's no need for that ... yes I noticed ... that's just plain old offensive
:37010594 apologies ... i rubbered duck the hsit out of that
it was totally by accident
12:50
@War but what is the most accurate one? right now I am using ip2location lite.
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oh that I couldn't tell you
tbh ... I prefer not to use such things .. .they are generally wrong
my IP address puts me in a town 30 miles up the road from my house
I guess it depends what you are trying to achieve though
At one of my jobs, we used Maxmind and it seemed to work well. Also, check this post: stackoverflow.com/questions/19514749/…
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if all you need is "rough area" of an event from an IP then any would do
Free option for geolocation: about.ip2c.org/#about
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omg I ofund a lost brother
12:52
No right now i am technically not trying to find the locations based on ips. I need a proper locations database where user can search and tag their posts.
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I need to do something like this on my blog
@Alex yes i have seen that question before.
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that load effect is cool AF
Yeah, I like that
@War that is cool!! :D
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12:54
maybe have it type out like someone is writing the post really fast on to the page
that would bring the cursor to life a bit more that way
So you need a db of every location on the planet?
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dammit!!!! I was near enough done with theming
@Alex na it just maps IP ranges to countries
the top level IP ranges are well known
nope not every mostly major ones
Anyway guys I think i will find out a way somehow. Thank you for help tough. :)
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np
@AkashBose There's a free db of major cities in world: maxmind.com/en/free-world-cities-database
Just show the values from that and let user pick the closest
13:08
@Alex looks good enough, thank you.
downloading..
Also one that's more frequently updated: geonames.org/export
geonames database are updated frequently? are you sure? my current database base is populated and restructured for my needs based on geonames.
genomes has pretty unorganised and duplicate data. :(
Oh, didn't know that
The one on Maxmind is also not the best data
But it's a start
You'll just have to try different ones and see which meets your needs. None is going to be perfect
14:02
alright guys
i'm off
i'll see you guys tomorrow and sorry for not being active much. I'm so much bound with the work.
see ya @ARr0w
has anayone heard of master data management?
See ya, ARr0w
@AndyK Just looked it up on Wikipedia: In business, master data management (MDM) comprises the processes, governance, policies, standards and tools that consistently define and manage the critical data of an organization to provide a single point of reference.
saw that @Alex. My question was more : Does anyone in this room has/had some exposure with mdm
Nah, was sharing it to just help me understand the concept :)
@AndyK Nope. Though would love to learn this
14:11
there are a ton of things I would <3 to learn me too
but here for this occasion
Maybe one day they'll have knowledge available for download to our brains, like in The Matrix ;)
I would like to implement that
for my current company
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anyone want to have a crack at flattening arrays in js
I <3 that movie
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this shit is doing my head in
14:13
Andy, this should help as a start: msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/…
Or not
That, too, is more definition than implementation
reading it @Alex
@War You're on the right track: stackoverflow.com/a/10865042/177416
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@Alex the root level is an array of objects
Oh
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I'm using a LINQ SelectMany to select child arrays then concat them in to a single array
in JS
14:20
LINQ in JS? Nice!
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might have to go find some old questions to necrobump
this one was awesome ... stackoverflow.com/questions/652549/…
@Alex yeh i'm using JSLINQ
it's someone elses lib but it works pretty well
+1 on the answer
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tempted to extract the code from it and just use it with plain old js arrays
the JSLINQ lib requires "wrapping the array" in the JSLINQ function
@Alex pretty neat huh ... the selected answer is pretty shitty imo
Is JSLINQ maintained? It says not here: github.com/Marak/JSLINQ
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didn't really solve it much at all
@Alex don't think so, but the version I have is the non minified version so I tweak it whenever I need to
it's basically my own version now
like I said ... might just rebuild a completely new js lib at some point to d othis with normal js arrays
14:35
Hmm. It was last updated in 2015, so might not be so bad :)
14:52
what is the room id?
@CrashBandicoot I think this room id is "#booLinq"
but I may be wrong there...
Seemingly not
haha what's with wanting the room id? :)
There's a bot in the Java room that follows commands
just wanted to see if it would come here, using one of it's commands
@CrashBandicoot oh dear sweet bot :O
I don't know @CrashBandicoot, what does it do?
15:21
Just an interactive bot
15:35
@War, @AndyK, @ARr0w you got any problem with this?
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@Shaneis hmmmmm
depends what it does
some bots aren't too bad .. .the one in the C# room @CapricaSix isn't too bad
but that one in the stupid teeny boppers room does my nut in
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15:48
... wow!! it's working :)

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