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12:00 AM
The teleprompter is ridiculously sturdy on the back half where the camera goes.
The bottom plate is 1/4 inch steel plate.
 
That's a pretty hefty size, are you using it from 20 foot back?
 
or equally hard heavy metal
 
I went for amazon.co.uk/…
 
No, but could do. I'm using it with a Panasonic V700 camcorder, which has a 40x zoom....
 
Is it for you?
 
12:04 AM
yes. oh, but it's not for using as a teleprompter, it's to use for video calls, so that I don't look off to the side.
and when you have 4+ people on screen, bigger = better.
 
ah I see
Makes sense, I was thinking if you used it as an actual teleprompter, at that size your eyes would be darting all over the place unless you were well back
imgur.com/a/LAXlE6F I've been playing around with this to make some higher quality tutorials for work. It works well but if there's not enough distance between me and the camera it's obvious that im reading across it
 
Wear tinted sunglasses?
 
That's why Casey Neistat always wore them in his vlogs
 
 
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5:38 AM
o/
 
 
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7:09 AM
good mornings
 
 
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8:46 AM
posted on June 26, 2021

This comic was made on my twitch stream, jefffillsspace. I had stalled long enough on EVERYTHING. It was time to make a comic, create some Dr. Lobster art, and get my stream going. I should be back on twitch again this week. No set schedule yet. I'm still figuring it all out. *Note: Acknowledging my stalling in no way guarantees that I... [read more]

 
9:37 AM
Hi
I want to append specific data from a SP's returned data to every row of Model's returned data based on Model's ID for each row of Model's returned data...
How can I do that?
For example...
DB::statement("CALL SP(?, @Data);", [ModelCurrentRowID]);
DB::select('select @Data as Data');
I want to get data from SP with ID of every returned row of the Model and append its data to every related row of the Model
Thanks in advance :)
 
 
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11:02 AM
Is there somebody on Windows who can run bless on this branch? github.com/php/php-src/pull/7199 I tried fixing them by hand but apparently I got it wrong and appveyor doesn't show the output of the tests.
 
@Dharman "The key that signed this is expired." ;)
 
What?
What did I do now?
It wasn't me, just in case... I was framed
 
You have a mix of verified and unverified commits
 
How did that happen?
 
As it says, presumably because your key expired ^^
 
11:08 AM
Ok, I will do some research to learn how to fix that
 
11:25 AM
@Dharman you can renew a gpg key
I don't recommend removing the key from your keychain because the commits will stay unverified
It may be better to set no expiration on your keys
 
11:51 AM
just renew the expiration date. do not make it endless. just renew in the future again.
the key stays the same.
 
@hakre as far as I could find out, there's no real benefit to having an expiry date unless you're using sub-keys; see e.g. security.stackexchange.com/q/14718/51961
anyone who has the key can extend it, and anyone who doesn't have it can't use it, so all the expiry date gives is a bit of garbage collection on a central keyserver if you stop using it
 
So I just learned about a Harry potter store in Heathrow Terminal 5, which has been there for at least 3 years... I must be bloody blind
 
12:07 PM
Either that or it was enchanted so you couldn't see it.
 
cmb
/home/vsts/work/1/s/ext/filter/logical_filters.c:635:24: error: suggest parentheses around ‘&&’ within ‘||’ [-Werror=parentheses]
  if (url->user != NULL && !is_userinfo_valid(url->user)
???
 
12:22 PM
morning
Looking for a reverse function for array_pad anyone had this case?
For the new Object serialization I wanted to remove all retuerned array values if they're null values after last non-null value.
It's easy to array_pad on class::__unserialize but haven't found anything easy to cut the leading null's on class::__serialize
 
cmb
@IluTov maybe something like gist.github.com/cmb69/4bfcb3c34ca995ffc2436f40787e932f might be the better long-term solution?
 
@cmb Sounds good to me. Thanks!
 
nvm, I realised I can unset all null's and reduce the size of returned array passed to serialization mechanism
 
cmb
12:38 PM
Ah, right, thanks! Should have pulled the branch. Am going to fix.
 
@cmb nice idea
 
cmb
I'll do a PR this evening, unless someone beats me to it.
 
12:59 PM
Morning, room
 
1:09 PM
@IMSoP there is more to it. for example if you get captured or other misery, it will expire. if there is no expiry date, this won't happen. for software signing you should use subkeys IIRC.
without an expiry date you can only actively revoke.
 
from what I read, if you use sub-keys, then expiring the sub-keys is useful, because they can't be renewed
but if you use a primary key, the expiry is meaningless, because it doesn't stop anybody doing anything
anyone who can sign using the key can also extend the expiry
 
you can renew sub-keys with the main key from what I know.
 
right; but you can't renew them by capturing the sub-key itself
 
I split the main key apart and only use it for that.
not key capturing, subject captured :)
 
what's the difference?
 
1:13 PM
I can't extend the period any longer nor could I revoke the key.
 
but, so what? you can't sign with it either
 
it's less about me, but for others to see.
 
the expiry doesn't tell anybody anything other than that you're not using it right now
 
exactly, that I could not renew it for example.
 
AIUI, you could go off-grid for 10 years, then come back, renew it, and carry on using it
 
1:15 PM
AIUI? Is that a sauce for pasta? I want to have the recipe.
 
heh; "As I Understand It"
 
And no, not going off-grid as in a decision of ones own.
but more like, being forced. like serious illness or like somebody captures you.
 
again, so what?
either you're still using the key to sign things, or you're not
the expiry date doesn't tell anybody anything they don't already know
 
there are artefacts that have been signed in the past.
others only know the artifacts and maybe some keys.
and then if the key is valid they may trust the identity
now the key expired.
 
I may be wrong, but I thought at that point, the items signed before the key expired will still be valid
 
1:17 PM
others who don't know you in person and can not contact or won't contact you, see then a new commit signed with the key.
and its expired.
the signature - apart from the expiry date - is still valid.
was the key compromised or not?
 
if someone can sign a commit with the key, they can renew the key before doing so
 
not if only the subkey got compromised.
this is why the main key is offline.
 
we're talking cross-purposes
 
maybe.
 
8 mins ago, by IMSoP
from what I read, if you use sub-keys, then expiring the sub-keys is useful, because they can't be renewed
 
1:19 PM
okay, yes, I though we're using subkeys ;)
 
no, I was talking about the case of just using a single key
 
for that key it can make sense für the public key, doesn't it?
this is why I would go with renewing, you can entirely not set the expiry date from what I know, it won't make the key stop to work (e.g. for signing or encryption).
 
again, my understanding is that it makes no difference whatsoever
but I'm by no means an expert, just going on explanations like the one I linked to earlier
here's a more "primary" source saying the same thing: gnupg.org/gph/en/manual.html#AEN526
> The inconvenience [of distributing a new encryption key] may or may not be worth the extra security.
 
1:36 PM
@IMSoP yes it may, that is true. also to work with expiry dates is not for free.
wiki.debian.org/Subkeys (not saying it is authoritative, just one resource you may find interesting in this regard).
its specific to debian development. and perhaps subkeys not even mandatory.
 
I think sub-keys probably become a lot more important in the Web Of Trust scenarios, where you have people counter-signing each other's keys etc
because that trust needs to stay attached to the primary key
 
yes, this one web of trust there is. and key compromise is really like the worst case.
I think thats the idea behind why subkeys make the key management easier.
if you only need to go to the air-gaped bunker every 6 months or so ... :D
and as usual, never trust a running system.
 
turns out security is hard :P
(apparently, typing words correctly is also hard...)
 
I think you make it very well :D
 
2:03 PM
@hakre this has already been discussed: externals.io/message/113838#113911
TL;DR there's not sufficient evidence that using an expiration date improves security
ah... I missed the discussion above
 
@Tiffany the evidence is only that using the master key for code-signing does not (improve) ;)
it's also valid to have no keyphrase on the master key.
 
o_O
 
and to publish both, private and public key, to not create a false pretention.
it's all possible.
I wonder thought when a key is immortal. maybe when it can't be burned, like with full disclosure.
 
The flip side to a key is it has to be trusted, if there are ways of revoking trust of said key then it's not really immortal, at least in any way that counts.
 
2:22 PM
not sure if you have to trust a key, I think it is equally possible to distrust it.
but the problem remains, true. perhaps there is no immortal key at all. if it's one with trust, it's mortal. if it's without and known compromised (or enforced like the full disclosure scenario) the key might be immortal, but it is of limited used.
 
2:45 PM
GD extension does not load ・ Dynamic loading ・ #81205
 
@JoeWatkins If PFA ends up not being accepted, what do you think about wiki.php.net/rfc/first_class_callable_syntax? Should that go up for voting?
 
cmb
+1
 
3:04 PM
@NikiC Alternatively, what about $b |> T_STRING using function lookup rules instead of constant? I was very opposed to this at first, but since |> is very specifically about making function calls it may be okay.
Would only solve a subset, but anyway throwing it out there.
 
@NikiC yeah, push forward with it
 
@cmb date() duh
I blame the OO propaganda machine
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@JoeWatkins Something I'm concerned about was the amount of push-back on the syntax -- which didn't exit for PFA (I think?) even though it uses the same syntax
 
IIRC most of the pushback included alternative suggestions that were pretty terrible...
 
oh well there was pushback, people wanted to use "...?", but only in the context of partials where we are introducing "?"
 
@NikiC That may be because the PFA version was part of a syntax framework that internally made sense. On its own, ... doesn't really imply "reference this function."
But it made logical sense as a degenerate case instance of PFA's syntax.
(Side note: I have a couple people in the Symfony Slack asking me what they can do to help PFA pass. So, there's that.)
 
3:12 PM
@Crell you'll need a magic wand
 
@Crell Yes, that is certainly an argument in favor of PFA
 
We really should consider merging symbol tables in the long run
 
Currently at 28/45 = 62.2222222222222%.
 
in the reddit discussion (for first class callable syntax), the most upvoted comment was concerning the syntax also, but I think they readily accepted your explanation of the choice ...
 
(I do think a "reference this function" syntax is a good thing, but like it better as a subset of PFA, given the common use cases.)
@LeviMorrison It's gone up over the weekend. :-)
 
3:15 PM
I'm a bit confused about the amount of backlash to adding "functional" features. Maybe this is also the fault of the OO propaganda machine.
 
Random thought: If current PFA fails, how feasible would it be to try a different implementation in the future that has some prefix syntax to avoid the "start calling the function and then back out" dance that makes things so complicated? Like, %foo(?, 5, 6)` or something (just off the top of my head). Then have that create a normal closure.
 
you know you can implement something that looks like partial application as part of pipes, why not $foo |> $bar->baz(1, $$, 3) ? it won't be efficient (and won't be partial application), but it won't be less efficient than other ways of writing the code .. I'm not sure I'd love it still, but it looks more interesting and more useful than the current proposal ...
 
@LeviMorrison Probably. The OOP propaganda machine is far more effective than the FP propaganda machine, which is largely self-defeating. (I'm trying to fix that.)
 
@Crell Well it's ambiguous.
 
1) Because I want pipes to operate on callables, not expressions, so that you can use functions that return a callable as the RHS.
2) Because there's plenty of other places that partials could be useful.
3) Because small, discrete features that combine to produce new features "for free" are superior to one-off combinations that cannot be reused.
@LeviMorrison Ambiguous how? I admit we're running out of symbols, but I mean some way to allow it to not even start calling the function and instead go down an different AST/compiler path to begin with.
 
3:20 PM
> Because I want pipes to operate on callables
 
@Crell You could still theoretically do $a |> mapper('strlen')($$) of course.
Doesn't have to work on callables. I certainly think it's more elegant if pipes and partials are independent features that work well together, though.
 
@LeviMorrison Mm, potentially. It's just uglier. And also, right there is an example of point 2. :-) Avoiding 'strlen' also makes that line nicer.
 
not sure what problem you're trying to communicate there
$foo |> $bar->baz(1, $$, 3)
$foo |> $bar->baz($$)
$foo |> $bar->baz
 
 $a |> map('strlen')($$)

vs.

$a |> map('strlen', $$)

vs.

$a |> map(strlen(?))
 
Maybe for 8.2 we can try partials and pipes as one proposal that includes optimizations when used together? Dunno. That would at least alleviate part of Nikita's concerns.
 
3:26 PM
urm, none of those are possible under the current proposal, correct ?
(assuming we don't get partials, because no magic wand)
 
The current pipe proposal, without PFA, would result in $a |> fn($x) => array_map('strlen', $x); Which is not ideal.
 
not really, it looks like partials, but won't and can't be ... this can be done without the kind of complexity that any real implementation of pa is going to introduce
 
Can I say something regarding PFA? I have limited exposure to FP, but I can give my lay opinion
 
@JoeWatkins I don't think the example was clear, but I'm pretty sure I knew what he meant because of past discussion. He wants map($callable) to return a closure that accepts the iterable as its only parameter.
 
@Dharman We can't stop you. :-P
@LeviMorrison Yes, that. I have a section on that in the pipes RFC at the moment.
 
3:29 PM
PFA is currently winning in the votes, no?
 
@Sara No, losing by a small margin. I think we only need ~3 voters to flip, or 8 new Yes votes.
 
For me, PFA is also partly important for if we do callable signature validation like callable(int $a, int $b): int because it's annoying to write the types into closures, even short closures. That's why preserving the type information was so important to me.
I think it's an important next-step for type safety.
 
28 to 17, that's 45 total votes, 28/45 == 0.6222 ah, damn, my in-brain math was off somewhere
 
@LeviMorrison Fully agreed.
Which would allow for:

$length = $arr |> map($this->foo(?)) |> filter(beep(?)) |> reduce(fn($x) => something) |> strlen(?);
And now you can do pointfree-style in PHP.
 
[RFC] Partial Expression
{ ? + 2 }
Translates as:
fn($x) => $x + 2
 
3:33 PM
@Dharman What was your question?
 
Still writing it...
 
Just sayin', that'll come next. :p
 
@Sara I can't tell if you're saying that as good or bad... :-)
 
@Crell Neither can I. I'm still waiting to see where I go with this.
 
People seem to prefer the OO version e.g. $arr->map($this->foo(?))->filter(beep(?)) and so on. I don't know why they care about -> vs |> and methods vs functions. It's not like extension methods are coming anytime soon either, or if they ever will.
 
3:35 PM
@LeviMorrison OOP propaganda machine.
Which I get; I was a die-hard OOP-all-the-things person for a long time. Then I learned more and grew up. and realized it's because in PHP, we use classes as a surrogate for a lot of things that other languages solve in different, better ways.
(Mainly package namespacing, package-based visibility, and dependencies for tests. The latter of which... Hey, look, that's what PFA is for!)
 
I really think PHP needs first-class callables. It's the number one priority that we should strive to fix. However, the syntax proposed by PFA is way too confusing for me to be a better alternative than what we have now. I understand how complex it can get with named arguments, optional and variadic parameters, but we need something simple and understandable.
Crell shared an article about PFAs and pipes that when I read only confirmed my belief that I do not want that kind of syntax in PHP. I guess it had the opposite outcome than intended. The example of a health check was less clear with
 
Also, because OOP complects product types with 50 other concepts (inheritance, encapsulation, etc.), and it's hard to think about breaking them back out again.
 
I don't know if clear, but the current proposal forces you to write $a |> fn($x) => array_map('strlen', $x); and I'm suggesting $a |> array_map('strlen', $$); looks nicer and is the same thing ...
 
I am personally not a fan of making PHP more FP oriented. It lacks inherent immutability to be a true FP language
 
@JoeWatkins There's no reason $a |> array_map('strlen', ?) couldn't do exactly the same thing, including optimizations.
 
3:39 PM
@Dharman I proposed pipes a year ago, and the main pushback was "PFA first, please." So, yeah, I'm really disheartened right now. I think pipes without PFA would be good, just not as good as pipes without PFA.
@JoeWatkins Because it handles some cases, but not others. And half-solving an issue can get in the way of fully solving, especially in this case. If we say the RHS is an expression, then it effectively precludes ever extending it to be a callable. That cuts off using it for function composition basically forever. And I'm not on board with that.
 
you're confusing me, if we get pfa, pipes don't need a new syntax, I'm suggesting we borrow the placeholder from pfa for pipes (it's a million percent simpler) ...
 
In that whole article, I haven't seen a single use of 2 or more ? in a single PFA, or the use of variadics. It seems to me that the main selling point is first class callable, not PFA
 
@Dharman This, this opinion is exactly what I don't understand. That's exactly the same kind of viewpoint as "I don't want any type features because the type system cannot exactly represent all things" like we are missing generics and associated types, etc. It's wrong. Basic types are still more useful than no types.
 
@Dharman Honestly, 98.3% of use cases for PFA would be a single placeholder, or first class callable (just ...).
 
@JoeWatkins isn't that the syntax Sara proposed in an earlier RFC?
 
3:42 PM
@Crell the rhs is callable, you may also omit parameters, consider the things between parens to be calling hints ... without parameters you invoke the callable, with parameters (and possibly a placeholder) you invoke the callable with the parameters
 
@JoeWatkins Now you've lost me.
 
either way, the callable is invoked, but if we had a placeholder, it no longer needs to be unary rhs ...
 
There's a fundamental difference between "the RHS is an expression with a placeholder in it" and "the RHS is any callable, and can get there any way."
 
@Dharman The rest of the syntax is "as long as we're already doing that, the incremental cost to support multiple placeholdersis tiny."
 
3:45 PM
@IMSoP yes, but I'd forgotten ...
I like that better
 
Yeah, I mean, how could you use 2 or more $$ in a pipe?
a function returns a single value only
 
@Dharman In Hack, you can't.
 
Also, I like $$ operator better than ?
 
Only a single $$.
 
But, you could use two ? in an array_map() callback to support keys. (That's the other 1% of use cases.)
 
3:46 PM
@Dharman Without any more details, that's just opinion.
 
it could be a bit weird to have a first-class callable syntax, and a magic placeholder, though
 
Which sigil is used is the least relevant aspect for me.
@IMSoP Which leads right back to "PFA solves both problems and a few others in a single syntax."
 
@Dharman Write up a plan for how we get from here to there (first class callables). I'm not even talking about the technical implementation. Lots of people could simply implement first class callables today, on two cups of tea or less. How do we separate the namespaces though (constants, variables, callables). If you can set a roadmap for THAT (backed up with data around existing projects), then we've got a conversation, until then it's wishful thinking.
 
@Crell indeed; hence my yes vote on the RFC
blah() |> array_map($$, foo(...)) vs blah() |> array_map(?, foo(?))
 
And yes, PFA skirts around that massive symbol collision mess. foo(...) is unambiguous, while foo is not.
 
3:49 PM
In 8.X emit a deprecation notice whenever there is a duplicated symbol. This implies a performance hit of unknown magnitude because we have to check 3 symbol tables instead of 1 whenever a symbol is defined, though if opcache is doing it's job it should be fine.
But, there are other annoying issues like case sensitivity not being consistent in different kinds of symbols, and also symbol fallbacks behave differently in namespaces.
I would much prefer to solve it this way, but it seemed too much to expect others to accept.
This could give us function (and constant) autoloading for basically free, btw.
 
@LeviMorrison Right. The full, exhaustive scope of the problem isn't even known because we get to problem #47 and just say "Fuck it, this isn't worth the effort"
 
/me has no strong opinion on symbol unification one way or another.
 
It also would fix $this->foo(...$args) and ($this->foo)(...$args) being different things, which has always bothered me.
 
that's my number one "wish I had a time machine" decision: making functions and constants do magic lookups rather than just making people put backslashes in front of them
 
To me, symbol unification is: "Let's build a new programming language, with variables denoted using £ and blackjack. In fact, forget the programming language."
It pisses me off that functions/constants don't have autoloaders yet. I don't get the reticence.
 
3:53 PM
other uses for the same time machine would be making call-site & symbols mandatory rather than forbidden
 
I'd use it to buy BTC and GME, but that's just me.
 
@Sara it's not reticence, you can't practically implement a function autoloader with the current namespace resolution
 
@IMSoP I would fix it the other way and error like objects do, because this allows nicer semantics for autoloading.
 
Programming is like sex: Make one mistake and support it for the rest of your life.
 
@LeviMorrison yeah, the negatives and affirmatives in my sentence are a bit muddled; I meant functions should work the same way classes do
 
3:55 PM
I'd get me a pterosaur egg, hand rear it, and learn to ride the thing ... strike fear into the hearts of my enemies, it would ...
 
@IMSoP I must be missing something. Surely you follow the same namespace rules as we have now. An unqualified name is resolved at the root namespace, and a qualified one is combined with it's relevant use statement (if any) and resolved as a fqnn.
 
Maybe people will be more open to "fixing" the symbol tables now that some workarounds have been proposed and failed? Dunno.
 
@Sara the problem is, that every time someone writes strlen($foo) in a namespace Foo, you have to fire the autoloader for "Foo\strlen", find that no function is loaded, and call the global function anyway
 
@IMSoP It would be cached on first call, which is technically a bug btw we do this technically wrong optimization in other places already.
 
@LeviMorrison on first call of that line? or on first call of that function in that namespace?
 
3:59 PM
That specific call site; the lookup is what is cached.
 
I don't think that helps anywhere near enough
 
hey guys, how we read this number? 36 351 321.300
 
I'd personally be in favour of deprecating function names that weren't qualified either in-place or via a use statement, but people would whinge that backslashes are ugly
 
Keep in mind we already do this; when people write strlen($foo) in a namespace, we first check for namespace\strlen and then we cache the result. If you later define the strlen in the namespace it won't find it.
 
I'm saying that's not enough: if I write strlen() 20 times in one file - not in a loop, on 20 different lines - I don't want the autoloader firing 20 times with the same argument
 
4:02 PM
we can fix that
 
Yeah, if we have autoloading we don't have to do that.
It would just fire once.
 
only if the autoloader can definitively say "no", which isn't how current autoloaders work
you need a table somewhere of functions that don't exist
 
The reason is that if it isn't found it will become fatal.
 
no, it will fall back to the global strlen()
 
I'm saying we shouldn't do that.
I think maybe we talked passed each other.
It should behave like class names do.
 
4:04 PM
right, that's where I started: I wish I had a time machine to make that happen
4 mins ago, by IMSoP
I'd personally be in favour of deprecating function names that weren't qualified either in-place or via a use statement, but people would whinge that backslashes are ugly
for some reason, people prefer files with 20 "use function" statements at the top to pressing their backslash key
and then blame the language for making them write that
 
How about per-namespace autoloading?
autoload_function_register('Foo\', fn($x) => require __DIR__ . "/$x.php");

So you'd incur that penalty in the Foo\ namespace specifically (because you know you do want autoloading for Foo\), but not elsewhere.
 
/me notes the conversation has wandered away again, and goes back to banging his head against something else.
 
/me goes in search of something snacky
 
 
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5:24 PM
morns
 
In phpstorm is there a way to wrap a variable with a function?
 
@SalOrozco Can you explain what you want in more detail?
 
I have a function that changes the date to a different format. In the HTML I'm outputting the $date variable. It would be nice to just highlight the variable and somehow phptorm surround your variable with whatever function you wanted to.
I know you can do that with HTML tags
you can highlight them and surround them with another tag.
 
5:41 PM
Don't know how to do that one, sorry.
 
thanks anyways
 
@SalOrozco So like, you highlight "$foo" and you want to turn that into "strlen($foo)"? Yeah, I don't know of any existing feature there.
 
yeah
I think there is a way to create that. Under live templates.
<$TAG$>$SELECTION$</$TAGNAME$> that surrounds the selection with tags
$NAME$($SELECTION$)
that worked
cool
 
6:53 PM
@IMSoP Because PHPStorm does that automatically
 
cmb
7:34 PM
@IluTov see github.com/php/php-src/pull/7204. Not sure what went wrong with your commit (the slashes in the filename shouldn't be an issue), but we need to git checkout . anyway, because a config.inc is modified.
 
7:55 PM
@cmb I have just looked at it now, weird. Your PR seems to work.
 
cmb
@IluTov the runs on my branch picked up some test failures which are not reported by run-tests.php. Let's see what the PR shows.
 
 
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9:46 PM
new in initializers going to vote \o/ Superpowered attributes.
 
9:59 PM
Another animated jpg:
magically hooks into the page onscroll.
 
you are not a nice person.
 
Hey, I didn't design human vision.
 
@Danack That is so upsetting for some reason
 
because it is a 2D pattern layered on a 3D shape
 
It's like the entire thing
The colors, the mindfuckery,
 
10:09 PM
stuff like that works by messing with your sense of perspecitive, either by mixing dimensional rendering or with opposing spirals
tho colours are irrelevant, you just need enough distinction that your eyes pick out the difference
 
Or just suggesting to your brain patterns that it recognises, which aren't quite there.
 
well yeh that's the end result, in terms of how to make shit like that though, all you really need is autocad
 
this one is better though, particularly full screen: chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/50901183#50901183
Are you calling me a cad?
 
rather, old fruit
 
I say.
 
10:13 PM
I kinda wanna listen to propellerheads/bang on but pretty sure that will give me a headache again
never seen so many knobs.
 
@DaveRandom The colors are not irrelevant
They are adding to my physical disgust
:P
 
in that regard, sure :-P
I have eaten sweets that look a lot more radioactive than that tho
I had forgotten how much I love propellerheads/History Repeating
 
10:29 PM
@DaveRandom I expect exactly that from my sweets
 
I've definitely had issues with History Repeating after too many sweets
 
Hello everyone i am facing a tiny problem my site got infected with some malicious code and when ever i delete that file it auto regenerate file name is mplugin and its a ad ware please guide me what steps should i take, heres the malware description about it as well. " Filename: wp-content/plugins/mplugin.php
File Type: Not a core, theme, or plugin file from wordpress.org.
Details: This file appears to be installed or modified by a hacker to perform malicious activity. If you know about this file you can choose to ignore it to exclude it from future scans. The matched text in this file is:
 
if a system is compromised you can no longer trust it, the only solution is to rebuild the site. since that looks like wordpress, "rebuild the site" means you needs to wipe the install, restore your site from a backup and then look through the admin list and make sure there is nothing in there that shouldn't be
you cannot "clean" your system though, unless you want to read and understand every single line of code in the whole app. protip: wipe/restore is faster and easier
if you don't have a backup... well this is gonna be a learning experience for you...
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10:46 PM
The problem is i am the only admin and all the backups i have are infected : ( only a hacker can save me, if someone can tell me how to log that file so may be i will be able to back track it, i literally have no clue about hacking.
 
with wordpress you also need to clean/restore the database as attacks often persist within the database.
if all the backups are infected, install fresh.
 
11:05 PM
Yeah your only option is to start from scratch and ideally use a bare install, because whatever infected you in the first place was probably something you added yourself... probably
 
@cmb I don't care about VLAs that much, but I think flexible array member is so ubiquitous they need to support it.
 
cmb
I'm actually quite surprised to see any pure C improvements at all – I wouldn't hold my breath on flexible array member support, though.
 
11:45 PM
C++ has had a few proposals to add FAMs. If one passes for C++23 then I bet they'd implement it.
 

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