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12:48 AM
@Girgias could you view the XML of one of the pages that does?
 
@Tiffany It's not located in the XML, there is another file somewhere which lists all the version constraint
And that file doesn't need to be translated but I never know where it is
Also I don't know why my patch doesn't "compile" >->
 
Hm :/
Would the XML contain a tag for the table? Could it provide any hint? Not at my computer right now
 
Tbh I've moved from that bit, I only saw it because I was going through each pages of the Language reference section to get rid of PHP 5 mentions
 
I'm so behind T_T I need to catch up on what's going on
I was looking at something in the manual for work this past week and saw mention of PHP 5, though I'm not sure if the removal changes are being applied yet
I should see what page it was...
 
A bunch of mentions have been removed
 
1:03 AM
not sure if the statement should be completely removed, or if it should be modified... I'm swinging towards completely removed though since it doesn't matter anymore
 
1:59 AM
That's what I've been doing lol
Haven't gone ythrough the OOP section tho
 
2:25 AM
Guess I'll do a PR tomorrow
Still need to earn my crappy t-shirt :X
 
3:09 AM
I mean those pages need major rewrites I think
*also would be great to go from oop5 to just oop in the links .-.
 
3:48 AM
Community PHP does nothing on IBM i 7.4 ・ Output Control ・ #80253
 
4:37 AM
morning room.
 
 
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6:27 AM
morning
 
 
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8:41 AM
Good morning.
 
 
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10:04 AM
my server is showing 500 internal server error for about 14 hours
only html files are working
php files cannot
what could be the cause?
 
10:20 AM
@Lenin First check web server (i.e. Apache's) log files.
 
cmb
11:17 AM
@Girgias these have to be added to language/predefined/versions.xml
 
 
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12:29 PM
I have an object that is allocated here that is sometimes dereferenced to 0 before the end of the method call. In that case, the dtor is called, but the memory allocated here leaks. Any ideas?
If the method returns and the refcount drops to 0 at a later time it works as expected.
I have a very simple failing test. If a fiber does not await, it leaks.
 
1:24 PM
Deprecated timezone designation: Kyiv not Kiev ・ *Configuration Issues ・ #80254
 
1:40 PM
@Jeeves duplicate I think
 
cmb
1:50 PM
@Tiffany seems so
 
This is seriously making me think I'm crazy. I've been scouring php-src as to why the GC wouldn't be freeing the memory and I'm at a complete loss.
 
@cmb I remembered this one bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=76988 when it first popped in r11 :P
 
cmb
@Tiffany the relevant info is on the Olson Timezone DB, see github.com/eggert/tz/blob/master/europe#L4055-L4066
 
@cmb :/
 
2:05 PM
And of course Lester also had to get involved into one of the original discussions at iana...
 
@cmb Making Kyiv canonical with Kiev alias (which could be deprecated sometimes) makes sense?
 
cmb
AFAIK, @Derick compiles timezonedb from the Olson timezone database, without patching the original or adding to it.
 
@Tpojka It would suck if we divert from the standard I would guess
 
I am just thinking out loud. I haven't read all related issues though. I am even not sure could it be desirable (and after all possible, since I am not into that deep of specs) to have alias for same city/country. Usually alias is where some country went apart and newly constituted main cities are alias to first being main city.
 
Which is fine, but it has to come from iana, not from php
 
2:16 PM
Totally right.
What PHP can is to set autoresponder for such issues to mail IANA instead.
:D
 
3:08 PM
OMG… fixed it. TIL that the GC doesn't work if the object is never assigned to a zval. I thought creating the zend_object instance was enough.
 
Huh, TIL we have a page which generates a big changelog document from all the changelog sections: php.net/manual/en/doc.changelog.php, might be of interest @cmb, @Tiffany to check which pages probably still have mentions of PHP 5 without going through each page
 
cmb
yep, the manual has some goodies :)
 
3:32 PM
I'll probably still do what I did for PHP 4 removal, read/have a cursory glance at every page in the manual by using the "next page" feature of the doc
 
cmb
grepping for PHP 5 or so can also be quite helpful
 
Well you don't discover gems to put on the deprecation list that way do you :P
I found about php.net/manual/en/reserved.variables.httpresponseheader.php by doing that yesterday, and I wonder why this one hasn't been deprecated yet
 
3:49 PM
Evening
 
4:00 PM
maybe PHP 5(\.(\d{1}|\*|x))? or something
it's funny, I have almost no trouble writing regex, but when I try to read someone else's, my brain blanks
 
cmb
4:11 PM
@Girgias is there an alternative?
 
@MarkR it's funny hearing "evening" when it's still technically morning here XD
 
@Tiffany I've only been awake 5 hours and it already feels like bedtime again
 
how much sleep did you get?
 
@Girgias omg, that's insane. 😮
 
@Tiffany Slept about 7 hours, im running a deficit of about 50 hours though
 
4:47 PM
@cmb I would imagine get_headers()? tbh I don't know much about the http wrapper
 
@Trowski add TEST_PHP_ARGS=-m to your CI/dev process
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@cmb There is, but not super ergonomic
You have to access the stream metadata
 
there is something wrong with the way that is switching contexts
sorry not familiar enough with code to be of any actual use
 
5:03 PM
@MateKocsis Btw you probably should add yourself as an author to that RFC because you've added a couple :)
 
cmb
5:18 PM
@NikiC but for that you need a stream; consider file_get_contents()
 
@Girgias Thanks for the reminder :) I'll do that!
 
@cmb I would argue that API is intended for quick-and-dirty jobs, it's not designed for that level of granularity
 
cmb
@DaveRandom you have a point. :) In any way it is terrible that a local variable gets magically created if you call certains functions.
 
oh yeh, no argument there
errno-driven design :-P
 
5:57 PM
Wait, is PHP always compiled with Zend Multibyte?
Getting conflicting info from the docs :')
 
 
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7:23 PM
Opcache bug (bad condition result) in 8.0.0rc1 ・ opcache ・ #80255
 
 
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cmb
9:20 PM
@Girgias looks like it is as of PHP 5.4.0
 
9:36 PM
Hi
 
Right, will need to rework a part then from the PR
 
o/
Anyone ever had a BIOS bootloop?
I got this new MOBO and my full-encrypt disk is detected but booting loops to BIOS instantly.
 
10:11 PM
rip
 
10:41 PM
@Jeeves Huh... interesting. When I enabled XDebug I can't reproduce it anymore
 
cmb
@Dharman AFAIK, xDebug disables OPcache
 
I thought so
 
10:58 PM
@Tpojka Diverging from standards is generally a bad idea, but also in this case aliasing it in PHP core would means potential for future work and arguments over how to spell things.
If they don't like the spelling, they can take that argument upstream.
 
11:26 PM
@Sara You around?
 
11:50 PM
@Sara For whenever you're next around: I tried switching statement_list to expr as you suggested, and it caused a compile error around shift/reduce conflicts(?). I don't quite know what to do with that. However, I did test and you're right that the change is needed. With statement_list, a foreach body results in a segfault, which is not desireable. :-) Suggestions?
 

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