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2:59 AM
Happy holidays r11.
 
\o
 
 
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4:01 AM
o/
 
Wes
4:21 AM
\o
 
Morning
@samayo I am using FanTech wireless gaming mouse
It also says 6D gaming mouse but I don’t know what the hell that means
 
4:46 AM
morning
 
 
1 hour later…
5:51 AM
@tereško There is a messenger app named Telegram which is very popular in here and the most of people use it to coordinate their plans about protests. Currently that app got filtered and people cannot connect to it anymore. So (thx God) everything is getting calming down like before.
 
6:05 AM
@Patrick Just bought your book. Hope to finish it in 2 days. :)
 
Hi all
is there any way with which I can execute single migration file in laravel 4.2
php artisan migrate --path=/app/database/migrations/Users/sample_change.php
any idea guys?
 
6:36 AM
\o
 
@Exception Just move the already executed migrations out of the app/config/database/migrations/ directory. Then execute the command php artisan migrate
 
Wes
o/
 
@Shafizadeh then where will that file go?
 
doesn't matter
 
if I remove that file then how will that file execute?
 
Wes
6:46 AM
so cold today
-6°c
 
mornings and happy 2018
 
@RonniSkansing happy new year :)
 
you too @Linus
 
yes temperature really fall down much today
@Wes where are you now man..
 
Wes
7:02 AM
for some reason people always think that italy has tropical climate :B we got mountains too, some are really tall :B
 
How people survive on this place, I can't even imagine .
 
Wes
true
 
momrnings
 
\o
 
I almost slept for ~12 hours
 
8:20 AM
mornings, also happy new year all
 
o/, you too
 
\o
 
o/
 
Wes
\o
 
8:32 AM
o/
 
8:51 AM
o/
 
oh God .. Just now I have noticed I have a speech in English tomorrow :-( .....
 
that's bad
 
it is
I don't know what should I say even in Persian :|
 
hence - the "bad" part
 
Did they give you topic for the speech?
 
9:00 AM
yes
I'm the PHP mentor for multiple projects in here ..
 
@mega6382 thanks :)
o/
 
\o
 
/me has bruised ribs, hurts
 
how?
 
coughing
smoking too much
 
9:13 AM
:(
 
Wes
didn't you switch to ecigs?
 
I did, but mostly because of cost ... they cheap here, going through 40 a day on normal days, couple of days I drank over the holidays and went through 60 ...
 
Wes
holy shit joe 40 is a lot
 
feel like shit
 
Wes
just get a proper big ass ecig
 
9:16 AM
I'm stressed out all the time at the moment ...
 
Wes
pf, excuses
also with enough nicotine you will not notice the difference. except for taste
 
I found the vaporiser last night, is on charge, going to get some liquid today, if I go out ...
 
Wes
you just need a beast ecig, with like 20mg nic liquids
what's your setup?
 
I was making my own, but at only 5 or 6 percent ... it makes me cough too, at first ...
I have a bottle left, but it's gone a funny colour and don't want to use it ... need some fresh stuff ...
 
Wes
you sure it's not the liquid?
 
9:20 AM
irony isn't Tony's strong suit is it
 
Wes
it's normal when they change color. some make them old on purpose, and add oxygen for a better taste
 
@JoeWatkins what you mean "bottle left"? "bottle" is what you can pour water in it and drink it. right?
 
nah even shop bought stuff makes me cough for a few days ... I get used too it, and read about why that happens, it's because cigarettes have stuff in them that stops you coughing, eliquids don't have those chemicals in them ...
@Shafizadeh e-liquid is stored in bottles ...
 
Wes
some liquids i used had that problem
they feel super dry
 
can you speak properly with a lung full ? I can't, if I try to talk it makes me cough real bad ...
 
Wes
9:22 AM
but that's the nicotine, not the liquid
dude
just quit
 
@Stephen it's okay to ignore foolish people ...
@Wes not strong enough
 
Wes
try with orange or lemon liquids, they are anesthetic on the lungs, and disinfect the shit
 
disabling CURLOPT_DNS_USE_GLOBAL_CACHE reports a warning – #75751
 
@JoeWatkins If it is hurting you so much. Go back to regular cigarettes.
 
Wes
worst advice ever
 
9:25 AM
:)
:P
 
@mega6382 they are hurting me right now ...
 
@JoeWatkins What the regular cigs?
 
Wes
@JoeWatkins this is how i quit smoking with ecigs. i spent quite some time finding a decent setup, then i tried a lot of liquids
 
Then you should just quit, at least for a while.
 
Wes
i choose one and bought 1.5 liters of it
then i cut it in different bottles with nicotine, 20 15 10 5 0
started with 20mg bottle, and went to 0
 
9:27 AM
I hate when people say you should just quit ...
 
Wes
you need to that before you start, because if you find yourself cutting nicotine in the middle of the therapy, you'll gonna get lazy, cut it wrong, etc. so do it on day 0
 
mornin 11
happy new year!
 
Wes
also you need consistency. i have two tanks. i don't switch to the other unless i know i got the coils and wicks right
then i switch tank and i have all the time to clean the other one and prepare it for a new stint
the most annoying thing is cleaning the ecig, but if you have 2 tanks it's no problem
and, a proper ecig looks like this
if it's smaller then it's not gonna work. i had 3 of these. they are shit
 
that's like mine, vbox160
 
Wes
9:32 AM
what's your tank?
 
I did have multiple tanks, but I can only find the one that was on it
uwell crown
 
Hi guys :p
 
Wes
does it have replaceable coils or you make coils yourself?
 
replaceable, got one new one left, and the one that was in it, which wasn't used very much
probably just get two matching ones, and decent supply of coils ...
 
Wes
do they taste bad when you replace them?
replacement coils are usually bad made, at least for certain brands
they get cooked easily, and you have to replace them often. also they aren't cheap. if you have the patience you can build coils and wicks yourself. youtube.com/watch?v=hxuE-WE17Fg it is much cheaper and you get better consistency. it is a bit annoying but again if you have 2 tanks you can dilute the maintenance over a long time
i change wicks like every 2 weeks, and coils every month
if your coils last a month, then don't do that
if you don't feel that the ecig is replacing the cigs entirely then it's not working and you should probably change liquid, setup, etc
that's all the suggestions i have. the most important ones are consistency, and setting your goals (cutting the liquids on day 1)
that worked for me :B now i vape 0 nic liquids
 
9:43 AM
internet went down ...
they taste alright, but gets better after a day or so ... they last about a week ...
I'm sucking on the thing the whole time though ...
 
Wes
about a week is ok. there are coils that suck so much that you have to replace them daily
 
10:09 AM
Hi all
I am facing problem regarding &sect converted to § in the URL from background while form submit .I have URL where I have parameter &sectionId=1 .But this gives 403 forbidden error .
So after some debugging I came to know that &sect is converted to §
how can i prevent this coversion
?
 
nope its giving me blank page :(
form is submitting now but in UI my list is gone
 
shrug
You asked how to fix the &sect
Fixed, job done
 
Hi guys
 
haha what a half hack
 
10:16 AM
I have a question, can anyone take a look here stackoverflow.com/questions/48041131/…
 
@MAnsyori the answer is already been accepted boy
then what are you expecting here
 
I made a mistake
It's still not accepted by me
 
you think you are magician
 
/me hugs @JayIsTooCommon
 
it was accepted few seconds ago and now its not
 
10:18 AM
yeah, I make it not accepted because the answer still not working
 
awww @Jay is here!!
 
Oh heeeeey @Jay
 
Anonymous
yomin
 
yo @JayIsTooCommon
 
10:20 AM
o/
 
\o
 
o\
 
anyone?
 
it's not an interesting question, nor is the solution interesting ... and you seem to want someone to actually write the code for you ...
just read the code you wrote, read it carefully ... make sure you understand every statement .... if you don't, and I think you don't, then nobody can really help you ...
 
moin
 
10:25 AM
o/
 
\o
 
we got an Jay @DaveRandom
 
ohai @JayIsTooCommon
 
Anonymous
hoidar
 
@JoeWatkins ok then. cheers.
 
10:27 AM
\o
 
I hope you listened ... I'm not being vicious ... when you understand the code you wrote, you won't need help from anyone, and you'll expect the output you get ...
 
Wes
jayo \o
 
lol dat avatar
 
Morning 11!
 
Wes
mine? it fits perfectly
 
10:37 AM
Yes I am enjoying it
 
Level 27 as of NYE! Woo~
 
10:52 AM
@NikiC Thank you!
 
Probably more hassle than it's worth to key pin with let's encrypt, right? Could maybe pin the root with some backup site keys
 
@Sean I have avoided hpkp in general, feels like it's mostly a way to shoot yourself in the foot, and CAA really solves (mostly) the same problem in a saner way
It's possible to get a 100% on ssllabs without it, and that is how you win the game of crypto
:-P
 
Yeah, it used to be a requirement to get a higher grade but I think they stopped taking it into consideration
 
I don't think so? HSTS is though
You lose a few older browsers (and all Java) when you get 100 on cipher strength
 
Yeah, at the top in the info boxes, you used to get a green one saying something like "Your site uses Key Pinning, good job!" or something
 
11:03 AM
Oh right you probably get that, but it's not factored into grading
 
Hi,
I have a question. I made an automatic product import with a CSV file. ( The delimited is a ';').
 
Oh wait I scanned the wrong domain, it still does have that banner
 
Now the person want to add some 'lists'.
- line 1
- line 2
- line 3

What should be a good way to define that, inside a cell?
 
That's a small set of ciphers the server prefers
 
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11:15 AM
I was thinking about '#' but that won't be good. And markdown in a CSV cell is maybe also not a good idea but would be easy to parse.
 
Wes
@JayIsTooCommon did you like the latest GT ep?
 
@Duikboot When it gets packed into CSV format it all gets escaped anyway, right?
 
@Duikboot why are you using CSV?
You data is not suitable for CSV
CSV is a (pretty crappy) way to represent a flat table, your data is not a flat table
 
.....I only remembered today is a work day at 4am last night....
 
Anonymous
11:30 AM
@Wes haven't watched it yet
 
it lives........
 
@Danack Ouch
 
@BilalAhmed Nice candidate for "Joke of the day"
 
cannot unsee the 'boo' on #present-users
 
When do you have to wake up?
 
11:33 AM
@Sean 8:30 am....
 
I pretty much run on 5 hours a night
You'll be fine
 
5 hours is plenty of sleep imo
 
Depends on the person, I'd love to have more, but not up to me
 
I typically sleep at 00:30 or 01:00 at night, and need to get up by 05:45 or something for school...
 
@SaitamaSama I wish I could do this
 
11:46 AM
You should get more sleep.
 
Easier to do it when you're younger, but ^
 
I sleep at 2+ and get up at 8:30
30 mins for prep and rush to office
@Sean +1
 
Used to stay up late playing WoW and then wake up early for paper rounds, wouldn't be able to do that any more.
 
I wouldn't be able to do a paper round any more either, the shame :D
 
heh, guess that's one of the bad things of growing up, then :B
 
11:48 AM
:P
 
@SaitamaSama On the other hand - slipper-socks.
 
Needs scales
Just in case that's inverse log happiness
 
@Danack I feel like your boss might be less likely than you to remember?
 
@jjok yarp. He called in sick.
 
11:57 AM
@Danack lolz
 
@jjok No tests, no multi-zone support (yet), no 32-bit support (yet) but "works": github.com/DaveRandom/LibLifxLan
I haven't had time to put together a nice clean client API yet, but I am working on it
 
@DaveRandom did you solve you nanasecond epoch time to sane format problem?
 
Wes
TIL phpstorm supports renaming of methods in Closure::fromCallable([$o, "abc"])
 
no not yet, I had an unexpectedly busy last ~week or so
 
Wes
if you rename "abc", it will change the [$o, "xxx"] array too
but works only with that particular syntax
 
12:20 PM
I am going to look at it again today though, because it more interesting than real work and I still have plenty of procrastination time for the current project
 
Wes
if you do
$c = [$o, "abc"];
Closure::fromCallable($c);
then it won't work
 
@Wes what if you do /** @var callable $c */ ?
 
Wes
lemme try
nope
!!should i start fasting today or tomorrow
 
You should tomorrow.
 
Wes
but i am fat
 
12:31 PM
@DaveRandom Is nanotimeToDateTimeImmutable the only place that requires 32-bit "support"?
 
@Leigh It's the only place where it's relevant, there are a few places that use 64-bit ints but none of them have values that are anywhere close to overflowing 2 ** 31 apart from the timestamps
 
weird that they chose little endian for a network protocol
 
@Leigh well, yes and no. It presumably for efficiency reasons, the CPU will be little-endian because almost everything is these days, "network byte order" is a convention but it's a convention than in many ways doesn't make much sense any more
I mean, it's very much premature optimisation, but I can see why they did it. You can just cast buffer pointers directly to ints that way
I'm more concerned by the use of nanotime, that's a huge wtf for me
 
yea that's odd, I've encountered that somewhere else recently, but I forget where
 
There's no way that CPU can process stuff with any more granularity than several milliseconds
 
12:38 PM
o/
 
oh and there's some stuff which is pointlessly represented as little-endian 32-bit floats
 
Wes
\o
 
@DaveRandom True, I made it like: * item1, * item2,
 
@Duikboot consider using XML or JSON
 
yeah to late fur that option :(
That would be a better option indeed.
 
12:47 PM
why is it too late? because you already shipped it, or just because you already wrote it?
 
Maybe it's because the <center> cannot hold
 
@DaveRandom Your avatar is the only one which is ok with hat
 
@DaveRandom we have css for that now anyway
 
@DaveRandom I was kind of hoping that you'd do the difficult bits and leave all the fun stuff for me :P
 
@PaulCrovella both ;-)
 
1:07 PM
Boo, our DNS provider doesn't support CAA records & has no plan to ):
 
@Shafizadeh it's built-in :-P
 
@PaulCrovella I wonder if you can parse that with regex :-P
@jjok sure, knock yourself out. I will still build one anyway but the whole point of building the protocol impl as a separate lib is that it's not tied to a specific client implementation ;-)
 
Happy date("Y"); <-- Looks like a butt
 
Or a lamp?
 
1:15 PM
why does your lamp look like a butt?
 
/me hides
 
@DaveRandom just one question, does "built-in" mean "your avatar is created exactly (it is proper) for hat?"
 
yes, @Wes made it a couple of years ago
 
ah :-)
 
Dec 18 '15 at 9:48, by DaveRandom
I hate hats
@Sean yeh a lot of them don't yet, who do you use?
 
1:31 PM
@DaveRandom eNom
Ancient
 
@DaveRandom I haven't had a chance to give it a go yet, but definitely will soon.
I'll write some tests or something.
 
@DaveRandom do you also hate head sized holes in the ground? nfb.ca/film/hothouse_5_git_gob
 
wtf did I just watch
 
you watch anime, you don't get to ask "wtf"
 
so, @Shafizadeh, how are protests/riots going ?
 
1:43 PM
@PaulCrovella :B
 
@tereško Our leader is a really clever person, he knows how should handle such situations.
 
that's a very .. emm .. "safe" response :D
 
that response comes from a member of a society which has a clever leader ;-)
 
:P
 
anyway, I hope our country gets ride of being boycott, I really need to buy a VPS.
 
1:49 PM
Well allright then.. happy newyear roomies!
 
\o/. You too.
 
what's a data bag ?
(json)
 
It's a bag you put your JSON data in, obv
 
it's like a dickbag, but less specific
 
1:52 PM
@JoeWatkins usually when I see this people are talking about "context", i.e. a ball of transient state that you pass around
 
I've heard about it in C# MVC projects
beanbag probably, not sure. It's used in the templating engine to pass data around...
 
it looks like object literals
 
looks crap
 
seems like a weird name for it
not descriptive at all
 
seems it's only allowed to return, and casts what would be an array into an object, and changes the definition of array_pair, so L:R syntax is valid in any array ...
 
1:56 PM
iirc there was some conflict with allowing that syntax in PHP, it's definitely been discussed before
it would by nice to switch to : instead of => because then we could make arrow functions sane
but obv not practical
 
@DaveRandom IIRC it would at least be ambiguous with the ternary operator
 
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