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@salathe Should we talk about this more?
how do i insert an element into an array as the first element?
cool ty @Jocelyn
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@crypticツ One day after I close-voted such a question, I got a comment from the OP "No, it is not a duplicate, don't you see the source code is different??"
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@Jocelyn mine uses spaces instead of tabs too!!
++
:)
@crypticツ some people really don't deserve to get help :-/
@kaᵠ C++?
thatt= too :))))
01:26
I made a new meme =o)
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enjoy "Help Vampire"
hey
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herro
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I'm a Haskell fan
nice one @crypticツ :D
morning @Zoidberg fancy seeing you here :D went on codejam?
@Zoidberg I can tell from your awesome avatar
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@kaᵠ yes, I'm through the qualification round.
01:31
@Zoidberg how'd ya do?
@Ocramius hi
@Eugene heya
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@kaᵠ I'm bored as hell.
why @Zoidberg ?
@Eugene PR :P
01:32
@Ocramius wanted to let you know, that it seems to me, that I found bug in docs. :)
@Eugene you're reading 2.0.x docs. That's stuff of 2 years ago
@ScottW not! justa bunch of guys with glasses eating pizza here
@ScottW we're all fans, our job is to be cool
@Ocramius What can I say, Google proposed))
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@ScottW TOOL <3
01:34
hmm @Ocramius seems we have opposing opinions :)
@ScottW they're the source of coolness \o/
@Ocramius you are right. It is correct here docs.doctrine-project.org/projects/doctrine-orm/en/latest/…
@Eugene anyway, if you find bugs, edit the docs online :)
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@ScottW that video clip is hilarious.
@Ocramius sure
01:40
@ScottW well that is a valid "suggestion"
holaaaaaaa
yellow
@kaᵠ wat
01:53
@Ocramius nvm, joking
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@kaᵠ United Nations Blue
Would anybody a good example of DM Factory off hand?
@Zoidberg no idea what you mean
@NickFury what's DM in this sentence?
unless it's blue cheese, yum
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01:55
@kaᵠ you name a color, I name a color.
@Ocramius DataMapper
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#4B92DB is called "United Nations Blue".
@Zoidberg color: beer
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Q: What's the best way to optimize a MySQL Table containing 5 millions rows?

Jonathan HughThe table has an ID which is a primary key. The table contains 5 million items, and they are 15 types of items. All the items have a certain Number. What I did is the following: I split the table into 15 tables, then I re-split each of the 15 types into 10 tables according to the first digit of...

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@Jocelyn Switching to PostgreSQL.
01:56
sometimes people have strange ideas...
@NickFury well, that's just an abstract factory, no?
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@Jocelyn haha
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OP forgets that databases are made for large sets of data.
@Zoidberg what runtime you got for code-jam C->large(2) ?
@Ocramius uhh maybe lol, let me google around
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01:58
@kaᵠ what
@Zoidberg yes, 5 million records is for from being a large table
@NickFury this one looks quite generic but ok as an example: rlacovara.blogspot.de/2010/04/…
does anyone know of a framework that doesn't use MVC, MVC is really not my cup of tea!
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@Connor Web framework? Express, Sinatra, Flask, Nancy, Noir…
02:00
@Ocramius switch statement? really? isn't there be a better implementation?
thanks, wow ill check them out!
@NickFury well, first of all, factories are crap code
with views, that's where you hide your horrors :P
anyway, it really depends then. The factory could reference some sort of container and then do fancy stuff from there
@Ocramius I've been following some of tereško's Model concepts. Why are they crap ?
@Zoidberg I just checked my own database: my 2 biggest tables have almost 8 million rows, and another table has 4.5 million rows. Of course everything works fine with the mysql server...
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Meh MySQL.
02:10
@NickFury what exactly are we talking about?
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I wish there was a good relational database that didn't use SQL.
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There is Mnesia but it doesn't have useful stuff like constraints.
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PostgreSQL does support Perl and Python but I'm not sure to what extend and whether you can use them to perform arbitrary queries without SQL.
@Zoidberg Neo4J ?
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That's a graph database.
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02:12
It stores graphs.
yes, I know, but it still has some of the stuff we use in RDBMSs
I really dislike the perl syntax
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@ScottW A dialect of JavaScript that doesn't have retarded Unicode support.
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SQL is case-insensitive. :(
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@ScottW Perl. :v
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02:14
Its Unicode support is quite good.
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Perl is a language specialized in text manipulation.
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Of course it has good Unicode support. :P
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C is terrible.
Writing slides is sooo boring :(
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Almost as terrible as PHP.
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02:15
Or Java.
@Zoidberg hardly :D
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I don't understand how PHP could ever happen.
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It's a mayhem of lamentable design. Except it lacks design.
@Ocramius Lol I was told to not use ORM and instead use DataMappers. So I've been reading up on tereško's answers on Model2 MVC. I was just looking for some code to work off of
@NickFury an ORM can be a Data Mapper...
Doctrine, Hibernate, JPA, SQL Alchemy are all data mappers after all
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02:19
Use SQL.
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Stored procedures FTW.
@Zoidberg ARRRRRRRRRRGH! Kill it with fire!
I thought ORM's were an anti pattern? I'm so confused lol
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Stored procedures are awesome.
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02:20
ORM is not a pattern.
@Zoidberg they're the quickest way to get a fix income from a company: if something explodes, it's gonna be so fucked up that they will need YOU regardless where you are or how much you cost :D
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DELETE FROM Languages WHERE Name IN ('PHP', 'Java');
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@Ocramius ideally, I would also write the application in Haskell.
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Because there are about 10 Haskell programmers on the entire planet.
02:23
So does what would you call this stackoverflow.com/a/5864000/710827 ?
@NickFury I don't get the question :\
ohhhh im thinking of active records
durrrppp
aaaah, yeah, keep away from AR
it's gonna hurt you
My bad I feel really stupid
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Use stored procedures. In your application, write functions that take connection pools as arguments and invoke the stored procedures.
02:25
@Zoidberg stop it! I now got fanta in my nose XD
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Who needs AR or ORMs seriously.
@Zoidberg lol what are the other alternatives?
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Maybe stored procedures are bad if you use abysmal DBMSes like MySQL. Never used them in MySQL.
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@NickFury stored procedures and application-side functions that wrap them.
@NickFury if you're taking him seriously, stop doing it now ;) /me goes wash nose - bleah
02:27
what about unit testing :P?
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You can unit test the functions with a test database that you reset before every test.
not well..
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Why not?
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I do it all the time and it works great.
I don't know, I have no idea what I'm talking about. I confused ORM and Active Records
02:29
@NickFury ORM and Active Record are not the same thing. An ORM could or could not use Active Record.
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AR is a way to do ORMs.
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@Ocramius what's wrong with stored procedures, really?
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They're easy to maintain, very versatile and fast as hell.
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And you don't mix SQL with application code.
So should I not have a DataMapper Factory :P ?
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02:32
You should have an AbstractDataMapperProxyFactorySingleton.
@Zoidberg fastest way to build something completely untestable. And they're an attempt to scale applications at DB level when you should focus on scaling the layers before that
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I don't see how stored procedures are untestable really.
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You write a program that invokes them on a test database that contains dummy data. It ain't rocket science.
@NickFury depends on what your data mapper(s) do
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void prepare_test() {
    wipe_database();
    insert_dummy_data();
}

void test() {
    // whatever you want
}
02:34
@Zoidberg right on that. Yet you are still storing logic in your storage where it should just be storage
I guess I don't really need it on a small application
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@Ocramius You are doing all data access in your database. That's what databases are extremely good at.
@Zoidberg I'd consider stored procedures only at a level where the income from a speedup in DB performance causes a dramatic revenue increase with minimal effort. I'd consider EVERY other solution before that
@Zoidberg data access, not data mixing-up-rewriting-on-the-fly-scrambling-returning-something-completely-different
That's not 1:1 with what my app requests to the db
I still think that moving any app logic to the persistence layer is conceptually wrong. I see this all the time since we implemented trigger-alike events in the ORM, and people just use it to build any possible imaginable crap :P
@ScottW so far I only saw abuses there, but maybe I didn't have the luck to see a good use case
02:56
Current hashrate: 800 Mhash/s
@ircmaxell wth O_o - did you already get news on the 50GH/s box?
nope
got a good deal on a 7970 board
I see...
had to install a few new fans in the case for that boy
heh. I tried to run with my poor 80MH/s here, but it's not worth it considering that my box eats 100W
03:03
I did the math, I'm profitable with this rig down to about $25 exchange rate
@ircmaxell I'll wait for the 5GH/s box... maybe will be too late, but won't lose hope :)
true, but when I get that box, I'll just add it to the overall capacity
well, the 50GH/s
yup. Saw how the 1500GH/s is built. It's just a jalapeno array with 2 usb hubs :O
that's a lot of jalapenos
wait, that's 300 of them...
that's more than addressable devices on a USB hub (256 max IIRC)... something doesn't sound right...
<- No idea whatsoever on hardware architecture here
But here's a mini one just fyi
03:10
127 devices per host controller
@ircmaxell then there must be more hubs for sure
@Ocramius it's 30 50GH/s models.
No, 127 per controller at the computer. Not per hub.
and hubs are counted as devices
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A: What is and how to increase the maximum number of usb devices?

David CostaIt's by standard as explained here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_device#System_design You can't have more than 127 devices (hub inclusive) connected to a single host controller. Now: the host controller+3 hub (1st layer)+18 hub (2nd layer) = 22 devices that DON'T appear as disk devices. 1...

I see. Then they're no hubs for sure
@Ocramius They are hubs. Those aren't jalapeno's, but the one I ordered (30 x 50GH/s)
Aaaaaah, now that makes more sense
03:18
this GPU increased my average reward per share by an order of magnitude
03:31
@ircmaxell what's the mining $ output [$/hash] ?
There are estimators online
why estimate? is't there a fix value till 2029 or something?
, its statistical, and gets harder approx every few weeks...
03:34
ha:) thanx guys
what's the 'difficultyfactor' ??!?!
so... at your rate @ircmaxell (800MH/s) you'll get ฿1.59 (or $159 USD) in a month, seem accurate?
About that...
got it's some kind of auto-adjust factor...
03:51
laters
laters @Ocramius
 
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05:00
anyone still here?
@tereško I think I noticed a syntax error in one of your answers in particular public function create( $name )**;** ?
edit it @NickFury if you're sure
@kaᵠ I don't think they allow 1 character edits
what's the error?
you can after 2k rep
the added ; no?
05:04
actually he's gonna see your ping and fix it himself
I know, hence the pinging
I don't have 2k rep
yeah, added ; was looking below for some reason
ahh, yeah I just feel bad I triple ping'd him
there's just one ping
I edited it three times
05:06
:)))
yea
do you know how to get to all the values from an array by a key range? say i'm interested in keys 20 - 400 and the array has keys: 1 6 93 133 312 366 489 992 1000 ... etc
@NickFury ^ @igorw ?
uhh not really sorry. Without just iterating?
i don't have some of the values in between so iterating is a waste of time, looking for more efficient sollution
how slow is it? I guess it also depends on your ranges
05:17
slow enough
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@kaᵠ I see what you mean lol, I just tried it out.
There's gotta be a better way!
05:34
@NickFury :) that's what i'm saying, at least using a builtin something
This is how I would have done it lol.
interesting site, also codepad.viper7.com and 3v4l.org
@NickFury that's very inefficient gonna die fast with a large array
lol yeah, what about array_keys() ? php.net/manual/en/function.array-keys.php
how? looks the same as foreach($arr as $key=>$val)
What's up with w3schools? A person who begins her answer with such a manifest is suspicious. — Green 4 hours ago
Green should:
1) Zoom to your avatar... (her ?)
2) Be punished by learning php from w3Schools ...
:)
Hi ...
monring Ihsan
mornings
monring teresko
@Ihsan did you just miss google code jam ?
06:13
@kaᵠ I do not miss it, I have no interest in it...
I do not understand, comprehend their english...
@Ihsan yeah, a bit too 'notational' :P
@kaᵠ Harvesting "global potential" of donkeys like me showing a carrot of 15K bucks... Cheap...
:D
@Ihsan the prize is really cheap indeed
@kaᵠ I think so..
@tereško I added a comment there. To enlighten "Green", I hope he/she/it will turn "Red" :D
@kaᵠ Hamza brought my attention to them here, together we had a look... The section he has shown me was the Afro-Arabian competition....
@Ihsan edit your comment (selling) instead of sell
@Ihsan 'without any authorization' => "without any authority"; 'in industry' => 'in the industry'
otherwise +1 nice one
@Ihsan i think i know of it from hamza too, or maybe web wandering ? dunno about that particular comp.
06:31
hmm .. should i shave or not ..
My decision on that is: Google is fooling people... Or making fun of them ... and actually telling "do not even dream of" :)
@kaᵠ Ok corrected but had to make it a new entry...
@tereško definitely! start with your legs :P
@kaᵠ Hahaha!
@Ihsan +1(bis), i don't see it that way, why 'make fun of people'? because of the low prize?
06:35
@kaᵠ No, overall, think about it, you are talking an audience of non - english native tongued people with that english...
What does it mean? Snobness?
maybe they just don't know better... it may be the way they talk :P
Playing the "high priest" of the web?... I find that puny...
and you're kinda right...
had to re-read each problem trice+ to get it... it actually isn't optimally worded
btw , your own native tongue is shining through .. you might put some effort in fixing that
@kaᵠ I first thought it like you, what if they reserved every useles people (specially the academic ones) to that job?
@tereško Kicking me?
I am not English...
06:39
neither am i
@tereško Well nice to know... :)
@tereško fix who what?
i just noticed that @Ihsan is talking funny
it's ok
.. don't mind me ... it's morning, i have to shave and then go to work
i'm somewhat pissed off at the world in general and humans in particular
06:42
@tereško that's normal for you, don't worry, go on :P
@tereško I just inhaled too much Helium
:D
yesterday , while walking from work (some time around midnight) i counted how many hours i have worked this month: since 1st it has been already over 165
@tereško And that is why you look ill-tempered every time...
Are you working under some form of slavery or what?
@tereško you working for a mob-boss?
@Ihsan that was not what i meant and you know it. I was referring to your sentence structure. I would recommend some audiobooks .. it would improve you syntax and expand the vocabulary
06:45
:))))
@tereško I know more than 65000 words in english... My english is fine. My current state of mind is not so... :D
You know the words, but you order them as in your native tongue.
I am not fully awake...
@Ihsan i really could never even approx how many words i know in eng or may native lang.
@tereško you're using 'tongue' a bit off too :) better 'language' in that context
i suspect that he was going for 2 ^ 16
06:49
@tereško Oh! That is hardly possible... Turkish word ordering is so different and awkward with respect to that of primitive English language...
++ :))) too bad i can't star that, out of context
@tereško Lol... 65536
@Ihsan maybe, but english is not primitive anymore:))) it evolved :)))
Exact number of words I know in English = 2 ^16
65535!
06:50
in pascal there was variable type: word .. that was it's limit
@kaᵠ I meant the count not the limit... LimitLo = 0, limitHi = 65535. count = 65536
@tereško yea! not in C++, was looking for it :P
@tereško Is it your word or machine word ? :D
true @Ihsan
not going back @tereško, sorry
@zigzag.bond place it outside your document_root
Downvoting of answers should cost -5 (at least)... Making the downvoter rethink it 5 more times...
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@tereško yure in top10 fo that
but php brings all the crap q's lately
06:58
@tereško If you attack uneducated repwhores, no problem...
@kaᵠ naah , you just have learned enought to start recognizing it
@tereško It rains sometimes.

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