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user895378
1:05 AM
@LeviMorrison Ah, finally back to the computer. Was out of the office all day ... I hate those days where work keeps me from getting any work done.
 
user895378
@RepWhoringPeeHaa Wow, I wish I could get +16 upvotes for answering, "Read the CodeIgniter manual" to a question that didn't belong on Stack Overflow in the first place.
 
user895378
@Ken I don't see how the two options you presented are mutually exclusive ...
 
@RepWhoringPeeHaa what's up?
 
Ken
1:25 AM
@rdlowrey They are not, naturally. I could have worded my question better.
 
user895378
okay, just making sure :)
 
@rdlowrey Hah, I know the feeling. I was just eating dinner.
My day was quite the opposite.
 
user895378
I would much rather sit at the keyboard and hardcore code all day than do work-related activities out of the office ... nothing worse than working all day and getting nothing done.
 
Ken
@rdlowrey making a coder do something other than coding... they should know better.
 
user895378
@Ken Well, in this case it's me making myself do something other than coding, but it still sucks.
 
user895378
1:30 AM
Has to be done.
 
Ken
You're flying solo?
 
user895378
I write code all day most days but I have a financial background and my main work deals with providing market data to financial companies.
 
user895378
Actually, it's less "market data" and more "automated analysis of aggregated time-series market data"
 
user895378
But it's all semantics anyway.
 
Ken
:)
 
1:35 AM
@rdlowrey By the way, as of today I feel like I TRULY understand good application architecture.
 
user895378
@LeviMorrison Have you given any more thought to a name for a value object to wrap access to GET/POST variables ... i.e. RequestParameters? I was thinking something like a basic Parameters is sufficient because if someone's dealing with POSTed JSON, for example, that will be captured in a Request instance's $body/$requestBody property.
 
If you had asked me if I understood it yesterday, I would have said that I do, but it would have been a half-truth. As of today, I understand.
 
user895378
@LeviMorrison Sweet. Level up on app architecture.
 
user895378
I haven't had a single free moment to contribute to your tutorials. If there's still work to do this weekend I'll likely be able to though.
 
@rdlowrey I haven't given it any more thought.
 
user895378
1:37 AM
It's amazing how making an effort to create a resource to explain something affords you the opportunity to make HUGE strides forward in fully understanding the relevant concepts yourself.
 
Ken
I find that teaching is the best way to learn.
Perhaps not to learn, but rather to solidify knowledge.
 
user895378
I agree with the exception being "failing at something yourself" ... which @ircmaxell has mentioned as being the best way to learn. Teaching is a close second for me though :)
 
Ken
Ahh, yes try {} catch {}, definitely a good learning tool ;)
 
@Ken I don't think that's what he meant ;)
 
Ken
:/
 
1:41 AM
@rdlowrey Yeah, I agree there
 
user895378
@ircmaxell I'm trying to formulate my thoughts in comment form on your AOP post right now. Please hold.
 
:-D
I don't mind if people disagree. As long as it made them think. That's my real goal with all of my posts...
 
@ircmaxell I don't disagree with it and I haven't even read it. ;)
 
:-P
you should disagree with it. At least with some part of it
If nobody disagrees, and there's nothing wrong with my viewpoint, I have failed...
 
@ircmaxell Maybe once I have read it I'll have a disagreement.
 
1:45 AM
My Slashdot signature: If a man does not take risk with his opinions, either his opinions are no good, or he is no good
 
user895378
I like the concept, though I have some conceptual points (not so much disagreements) I want to make
 
user895378
Or option (c): all of the above.
 
awesome
 
user895378
@ircmaxell For the record, it drives me nuts that I can't scale your comment text box any larger than X-pixels in chrome
 
user895378
How am I supposed to leave a massively long comment? :)
 
1:47 AM
lol
thank blogger!
 
@rdlowrey Hmm, what if we called our object. . . ArrayObject? See:
<?php

$object = new ArrayObject;

$url = "id=124&username=levim";

parse_str($url, $object);

var_dump($object);
 
and the easy way would be to copy-paste from another source (or post it on your blog)
 
user895378
well, I can scale it, but I think the div containing it must have a max-height declaration or something
 
user895378
so I get a nasty scrollbar
 
user895378
@ircmaxell woah woah woah ... let's not get crazy
 
user895378
1:49 AM
@LeviMorrison Wait, you lost me ... also PHP already has an ArrayObject
 
user895378
Oh, you're talking about the "Parameters" object I mentioned
 
:-P
 
user895378
@LeviMorrison OH, I'm a moron, you aren't suggesting making a class in userland called ArrayObject, you're saying lets use an ArrayObject ... sorry about that.
 
@rdlowrey Or maybe just subclass it. What do you think?
I just don't want to overcomplicate things. I think something that implements ArrayAccess is all we need for the Parameters class.
 
Ken
1:52 AM
@ircmaxell you are aware that your joomlaperformance.com forums are totally getting spammed right? :P
 
oh yeah
I know, I just gave up. Perhaps I'll go disable everything
 
user895378
@LeviMorrison I don't even see the need to subclass it honestly ... I think I'd like the ArrayObject to be injected into the Request similar to the Url object and have its access wrapped
 
user895378
Of course, ArrayObject is mutable :)
 
@rdlowrey I wouldn't have it take ArrayObject, I'd have it take ArrayAccess. That way you could inject your own class instead of being bound to ArrayObject.
 
user895378
Yeah, I'm thinking just a simple custom class implementing ArrayAccess that requires the source data in the constructor and throws an exception or just does nothing and returns NULL on offsetSet
 
user895378
1:57 AM
I'm a big fan of the immutable Request object ... The Request is the Request is the Request. It happens once and it's properties shouldn't change once they're populated for the rest of the life of the script execution.
 
@rdlowrey When things are more complex than a Request object, like, say if you were to put everything in the constructor it would have . . . 10 or more elements, with several optional, then it doesn't really become feasible to have an immutable object. But the things that accept it should take a read-only API.
 
lol would this actually work -> 1337day.com/exploits/18426
 
user895378
@LeviMorrison I agree ... it doesn't make sense to have a boat load of constructor args
 
@Nick I don't think so, for one, $buffer is not a callable object . . .
 
user895378
@LeviMorrison you can specify a string function name there, though ...
 
2:05 AM
@rdlowrey Then maybe you could do it.
 
user895378
Of course, why you would allow an outside source to have any input into the autoloader functions you register is completely beyond me
 
Agreed. Moving on.
 
user895378
Would it be easier to simply use the $_GET/$_POST superglobals as constructor arguments to a Parameter class than to parse the form encoded string manually? i.e. might there be pitfalls doing it ourselves?
 
@LeviMorrison Sorry haha It came up during a discussion, just wanted some input
Thanks for the thoughts guys
 
@rdlowrey Well, remember that the body of a POST request will most often be form-encoded. If we know it is form-encoded, then I see 0 harm in using $_POST, and no harm in using $_GET either, as long as they are placed in a spot where their global nature can't harm anything.
 
user895378
2:09 AM
@LeviMorrison Well, PHP only populates those superglobals if there is actually form-encoded parameters passed ... if a request comes with a JSON POST body, for example, that's something we would pull out manually from php://input
 
If it isn't form-encoding, then we shouldn't even look at $_POST.
 
user895378
Right, but, shouldn't we create a Parameter object for every request? If it's empty it's empty, but it's still there, and then have a Request body property from the contents of php://input?
 
user895378
We might be saying the same thing in different ways ... I'm not sure.
 
@rdlowrey I guess I don't see where the Parameters object for POST requests comes into play.
 
user895378
@LeviMorrison Oh, I see what you're saying.
 
user895378
2:12 AM
Well, I've vacillated back and forth on whether form-encoded POST + GET parameters should be mixed into the same bucket or not. At first I thought it was a terrible idea to mix the two different contexts, but lately it seems to make more sense ...
 
@rdlowrey But what method on Http\Request would give you the POST data as an array?
Or array object?
 
user895378
I say that, but I HATE PHP's $_REQUEST superglobal ...
 
user895378
@LeviMorrison Well that's what I'm saying ... you could have a single Parameter object for all form-encoded params ... regardless of how they arrived ... and it could be accessed with something like Request::getParameter($param)
 
user895378
And then a separate Request::$body property accessed by Request::getBody()
 
user895378
(for example)
 
user895378
2:15 AM
That's just how I've thought of it up to now, but if you're not down with that or have issues with that approach I'm open to other means
 
@rdlowrey I vote we leave it out, for now.
If we're coding our applications and are like, oh hey, I use this flipping ALL THE TIME, then yeah, we'll put it in.
 
user895378
@LeviMorrison I'm totally fine with that. These are the types of things that were total roadblocks for me before ...
 
user895378
That's the beauty of clean, dependency-injected code ... it's trivial to add functionality down the road
 
However, POST request fields will overwrite GET fields of the same name. That is dangerous.
I can just add a POST field for id for something else and depending on how your App is written, you really could bypass all security.
I'd say it's a narrow chance, but possible.
 
user895378
No, you're definitely right on with that.
 
user895378
2:19 AM
Ignoring potential issues because they're very unlikely is how space shuttles blow up ...
 
@rdlowrey So what's next?
 
user895378
@LeviMorrison Oh, do you think it's worthwhile to have a Request::getClientIp method or not?
 
user895378
I don't ever use it, but it might be a nice feature on hand and I have this code still lying around:
 
user895378
nevermind. probably not necessary.
 
@rdlowrey It's possible to build from our class, that's the most important part of architecture.
That your code doesn't interfere with what you want to do when it is something valid.
 
Ken
2:24 AM
What are you guys building?
 
user895378
@LeviMorrison Right again.
 
user895378
The goal is a static-free, S.O.L.I.D.-compliant, fully RESTful http framework
 
user895378
Of course it's nowhere close to production ready at this point, so don't try to download it or anything :)
 
It might take a while, but I want to complete it.
 
user895378
2:26 AM
Yeah, it's a really nice ongoing project.
 
@Ken It also provides some nifty auto-matic dependency injection.
 
Ken
ahh, interesting!
Ambitious too :)
 
user895378
@LeviMorrison As for what's next, I'm going to put together a new sample (very basic) application with the new request/routing setup ... if not tonight I'll definitely push that before lunch time tomorrow and then we can look at what we need to change.
 
Ken
@rdlowrey what's the r stand for in rdlowrey? :)
 
user895378
I haven't decided yet if I want to even bring back the eager-loading of non-class controllers
 
2:29 AM
Got a problem, PHP + Facebook app authentication goes on a loop in Firefox. Chrome & Safari work as expected. If you click "INSTALL" on one of these covers, it doesn't work on FF. It goes on a loop. I'm the only one testing so I can't be sure if it happens to everyone: [ cute-spot.com/covers ] and this is the link to my question: stackoverflow.com/q/10939416/1399030
 
user895378
@Ken Robert.
 
Ken
@rdlowrey Ahh, cool.
 
@Love By the way, your name makes me feel awkward, Love.
 
user895378
@Ken @rlemon and I are starting the "R is for Robert" mafia ... if you qualify you can join :)
 
@Levi :) Yeah, it's my real name too
 
user895378
2:30 AM
@Ken but you have to be realllllllllllly tanned ... it's on the application.
 
Ken
@rdlowrey hahaha
 
user895378
 
Ken
another one. well done.
 
user895378
@Ken You should check out @rlemon's meme generator ... it's $$$
 
Ken
haha
all my name variations for @gmail.com are taken, it's sad :(
I hate numbered email addresses :P
cool meme generator
 
2:36 AM
If anybody knows what I'm doing wrong, feel free to let me know [ stackoverflow.com/q/10939416/1399030 ]
 
user895378
@LeviMorrison Gonna take a break and watch the end of the basketball game. I'll be slinking around later if you think of other stuff. Otherwise, I'll have a sample app pushed before lunch-ish tomorrow and we can go from there
 
@rdlowrey Okay. I mainly want to go back to my job and hammer out the rest of my application architecture.
 
user895378
@LeviMorrison If you haven't seen it, you can see how the Router now only throws HttpException if no listeners are registered for the http.404 and http.405 events ...
 
@rdlowrey Bad code. Should be polymorphic!
 
user895378
too tired to fix right now :) will do it though
 
user895378
2:42 AM
The only thing that needs to change is RouteList should instead be any array or traversable ...
 
Workflow isn't the easiest to follow.
I understand it now, but for a bit I was like, is the bottom portion even REACHABLE?
 
3:26 AM
hello room
could some one tell me the steps for setting up a site on my local apache server.. I am using ubuntu.. I want it to be displayed as "www.mysite.com".
I wanted to know what changes must be made in the apache folder and all
I have the same set up in the office but it didn't seem to work on my lap... :(
 
afternoon all
 
3:42 AM
hey @Paul
 
Sam
maybe it doesn't like your lap; use the chair.....:P
 
lol @Sam
@Sam Do you know the procedure for doing that? besides using a chair? :P
 
Sam
lol......have you set up apache on the system?
 
3:57 AM
yes..
I have apache running.. it shows the "It works" screen too :)
also I can run sites from a folder placed in the /var/www/ folder
but they will all appear as localhost/myfolder/
in the browser url
I was hoping that I could change this to something like www.mysite.com
is this post supposed to be here? Aint it supposed to be .. maybe in a C# chat room?
 
hes posted it in all of them
in Javascript aswell
im reporting him
 
user895378
@LeviMorrison Well it would be much simpler and easier to understand but I completely re-wrote it to allow for a consistent way to include the eager-loaded callable controllers. The thing is, the more I think about it, the more I think we shouldn't even allow them. Why bother to allow anything other than class controllers with methods matching the HTTP method verb? I can't come up with a good reason, and disallowing it makes the code almost trivially simple ...
 
user895378
Usually simpler == better
 
Sam
@ShyamK you want to be able to run multiple sites, right?
 
i can run multiple sites all as localhost/myfolder1 and localhost/myfolder2 and so on..
 
Sam
4:07 AM
all the sites on your system should all display localhost:portnumber, since you do not have DNS on your system to translate real domains
so, what you can do is set up virtualhosts for each site
so that each can be distinctly different as a site
 
yes
I have tried writing .conf files for each of the sites.. and editing the hosts file to include them.. but I just get blank pages when I browse to those sites
:(
there is something that I'm missing.. but I have no idea what. :(
 
Sam
so, you set up the virtualhost for each site in a single http.conf file; you don't create multiple conf files
 
@Sam are you using ubuntu? Or atleast do you know how the LAMP files are kept... cos I haven't used any other apache servers
 
Sam
if you open up your httpd.conf file, you should see the section to set it up
 
nope.. multiple .conf files.. one for each site..
any idea where that is in ubuntu, if thats what you are using..?
 
Sam
4:13 AM
nope......it doesn't matter if what OS you are on; to set up multiple sites in the same apache, use virtualhost in the httpd.conf file
do you know the folder where apache was set up in?
 
/etc/apache2/
 
Sam
ok....check that folder; I'm currently not on Ubuntu, so I can't confirm
 
the only thing written in that is ServerName localhost
 
Sam
by default, it doesn't come with any virtualhost
but you can set it up
 
and in the office thats the only thing required as it runs proper here...
 
Sam
4:18 AM
and re-start apache
let me guess.....in the office, you use WAMPServer or something similar that set everything for you? :P
 
I don't think that this is the file I need to be playing with as this file is the same both in the office and my laptop
nope.. LAMP at both places
 
Sam
every apache server uses httpd.conf, buddy
 
yes.. true.. but the one in the office has only that one line..
so I'm guessing that this is not the "problem"
 
Sam
so, on your development machine at work, how do you identify each site for testing? Put it online first?
 
I'm not following..
 
Sam
4:21 AM
on your development machine at work, you work on multiple, different sites, correct?
 
yes
 
Sam
how do you access each from the browser?
 
hello everyone,
 
Sam
hey tom
 
I just write up a .conf file and then set it up in the user public directory... make a link to it in the /var/www/ and edit the hosts file and then viola the local site magically works
hey @tomexsans
@Sam www.mysite.local
or mysite.local
both are written in the hosts file
 
Ken
4:23 AM
Wamp uses apache.conf instead of http.conf
 
127.0.0.1 mysite.local www.mysite.conf
 
Sam
oh ok......in that case, you'll probably need someone more experienced with apache; I always use virtualhost, so I don't have to set up multiple .conf files
each site is accessed by the portnumber
 
@Ken Really?--- I think this link says different.. ubuntugods.com/httpd-conf-location-ubuntu --- Sorry. I misread
 
Sam
localhost:81, localhost:82, etc
WAMP uses httpd.conf
 
tell me your method.. I shall try it once I go home..
a new method will be a learning experience for me :)
 
Sam
4:26 AM
I modify the httpd.conf file; I set up the port for apache to listen for each site
so, site 1 can use :81, site 2 :82, etc
then, I set up the virtualhost section for each site, and point it to the location of the files; they can be anywhere in my system, not just inside apache
 
how will the site appear on the browser url ?
 
Sam
once I've set apache to listen to the ports, and defined the virtualhosts, I restart apache
 
@Sam same here.. got a link that points in the right direction
 
Sam
for site with port :81
the browser will access it by localhost:81
for site with port 82
localhost:82
and so on
 
hmm.. okay
 
Sam
4:29 AM
I'm not sure about your way, but I can read more on it
 
I presume that you are using IP based virtual hosting.. Right?
 
Sam
yes, Sir
 
and I am using the first one.. right..
sir??? lol
 
Sam
:P
 
Ken
@ShyamK my mistake, i've been too much ubuntu work.
 
Sam
4:35 AM
lol....need some caffeine, Ken? :P
 
Ken
@Sam probably a good idea..
 
Sam
:)
 
ghjfghj
fghfgh
 
Sam
got your chat thing working, tom?
 
i cant make new line like the one i typed above . . . :(
 
Sam
4:37 AM
bummer
 
my solution is to insert a <br/> tag every shift+enter combo , it works but it enteres a <br/> tag on the textarea , not good to look at
i wonder how they made this chat hehehe. gotto research more. . :)
 
Sam
try a tiny, teeny bit more...you are close :)
 
Ken
4:50 AM
Are you cloning this chat?
 
its my way of studying jquery, so i make a chat . . and i want like this one. . do you have an idea @Ken
 
Sam
chat like this is way beyond jquery, my friend
 
hmm.. this chat is made with jquery? only jquery?
I dont think so
 
im not telling all the functions of this chat just the basic no refresh stuff. jquery and ajax. you know . . :)
 
Sam
definitely not......jquery is only javascript.....a conduit for sending and receiving the data
 
4:54 AM
@Sam so what is this chat made of?
 
Sam
jquery and ajax? lol.......noob
:P
I'm not sure.....but I don't think it uses long polling either
 
i like the scroll bar haha, im going nuts here
 
best chat that I've seen so far.. at least visually.. son't know about security issues (if they exist or not)
 
Sam
I'm guessing some kinda comet tech or something definitely above my pay grade :D
what scrolling bar?
 
gawd... I wanna learn it all...
there is a scroll bar at the side... I'm guessing that one..
 
4:58 AM
yup thats it
 
what is so gr8 about it?
 
the greatest thing about it is that its a scroll bar :)
 
Sam
lol.....ooook
 
there is only one scroll bar here right? or do I need glasses..
@tomexsans as opposed to?
 
:P
 
 
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6:17 AM
good morning
 
morning
 
seems like i messed up my date, its still displaying JUNE 6 well infact its june 8 tsk how to fix :)
 
do we have a canonical mysql_* is deprecated resource for linking in comments?
 
morning
 
6:33 AM
morning and evening everyone
 
$fname = xmldecode(trim($xml->first-name));
outputs 0 instead of returning the value of first-name
what could be the problem?
 
$xml->first-name probably returns false
 
Sam
Hey guys, does this regular expression look right to you?

"/^(index\.php|/index\.php)/"

The error stops when i remove the "/" from the second index\.php

Im getting an error on my webpage, but not on the regular expression builder here -> http://gskinner.com/RegExr/
 
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" standalone="yes"?>
<person>
<id>Value</id>
<first-name>C</first-name>
</person>
it works for id but not first-name, how can I extract first name from this xml?
 
@Sam the / doesn't look like it is escaped in the middle of it. It probably needs \ before it.
 
Sam
6:46 AM
@Paul Thanks! That turned out to be my problem, i didnt know you had to escape those, i thought it was just "\" , silly me ;]
 
no problems.
 
Sam
Im getting off to work now, speak later
 
7:12 AM
how to clear browser cookies and cache, any function for doing it
 
@pbvamsi you mean you want to delete cookies and cache on the client side?
through PHP?
 
yes @markus
 
@pbvamsi well, of course you can't delete cookies from other sites, how crazy would that be :) but you can delete your own sites cookies by unsetting them
and cache you can't delete, you can only start setting no-cache headers and then wait for the user to clear his cache
 
7:17 AM
my form is resubmitting on each refresh is there any way to stop that
 
@pbvamsi that has nothing to do with cookies or cache
if you submit and then refresh, of course it's gonna submit again
that's why you usually post to a different location
 
both r different cases, firstly how that header can be declared to not take anything into cache
something like this is enough
header("Cache-Control: no-store, no-cache, must-revalidate");
 
@pbvamsi that should be fine, if you want to finetune it you can declare different cache header settings for each file type in apache if you're using the header module
 
thanks
 
Hello everyone :)
 
7:30 AM
hiya @Zundrium
 
No IDE discussing this time I promise, hehe.
 
@Zundrium What's next? Tabs vs spaces for indentation? Whether PHP really is object oriented or just object capable? Why frameworks suck? ;)
 
@RepWhoringPeeHaa What about you telling me the easiest way to give a value to a subquery in MySQL :D
 
:-)
What do you mean by "give a value"?
SELECT id FROM table1 WHERE c1 = (SELECT c1 FROM tabel2 where value = 'yourvalue');
?
 
@RepWhoringPeeHaa Almost, yourvalue needs to be a value from table1
@RepWhoringPeeHaa table1.value doesn't work
 
7:37 AM
@Zundrium , then you need to use a JOIN instead of subquery
 
@Zundrium What @tereško said
And morning @tereško
 
Doh, ofcourse. Thanks guys :)
 
mornings , @RepWhoringPeeHaa
 
Good day
 
yo
 
7:39 AM
hiya robikdonut
 
Hi @tereško @RepWhoringPeeHaa
 
@Donut Hello!
 
@Zundrium greetings
 
Does anyone here use SQL views often? I only used it for some search engine indexing
 
@Zundrium we aggregate horizontally partitioned tables into views
 
7:50 AM
@markustharkun horizontally partitioned?
 
you can also do pseudo-partitioning by splitting your data into several tables, grouping data with similar write patterns for example and then use views for reading when you need the whole bunch of tables
e.g. for data export
 
I wonder, will gist kick pastebin ass.
 
8:06 AM
@markustharkun checking it out, thanks
 
hello
 
hi @prjndhi
 
hi @RepWhoringPeeHaa :)
 
@Eugene morning
sigh :
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Q: $_POST in php is inconsistent

luckylukeI've started to learn php. $_POST variable is working in some of files, that i'm even able to post the data obtained through $_POST to database. Strangley, $_POST is not working in few files. I mean its inconistent. Any pointers to overcome this issue will be of great help. Thanks

 
8:26 AM
posts are so consistent you can even use them as unsafe globals.
 
Wrong chat :o
 
:P
What OS is that?
 
ICS
Android
 
YUP,its like telling PHP is inconsistent :)
 
Sam
@tomexsans PHP is inconsistent with many regards; however, $_POST isn't one of them :P
 
8:31 AM
@sam +1
 
Sam
does that give my points a boost? :P
 
-webkit is for webkit browsers
-moz for mozilla
-ms .... is it for microsoft??
-o for opera
am i right
 
@tomexsans yup
"And more importantly plz don't give negative rating to this question as the chances of getting a proper answer turns out to be hard" I don't always downvote "newbies", but when I do I make sure the question deserves it and still does. Your question did sorry. 1) You failed to post any code. 2) You haven't even told us what is (according to you) inconsistent. — RepWhoringPeeHaa 1 min ago
 
what do you call all of this -ms,-webkit, and -moz stuff??
 
browser specific prefix
 
8:37 AM
"vendor specific prefixes for testing purposes"
 
@tomexsans You should listen to teresko :)
 
@RepWhoringPeeHaa, @tereško thanks, i keep googleing it, but google has no idea. can you belive that??
 
because you are googling -foo instead of "-foo"
the minus-sign means "not" in google search queries
 
thanks again, i'm pretty noob in searching
 
Sam
8:41 AM
wow.....google page built with python
 
@Sam ?
You know that Google loves to use python right?
 
@RepWhoringPeeHaa, seems like i must learn to read manuals after all
 
Sam
I'm just surprised; been trying to figure out what technologies google use for its pages
I sure didn't know about that, @RepWhoringPeeHaa
 
@Sam , well , yes .. they try
mostly because they have problems with getting good JS developers (thats my explanation for GWT)
 
Sam
8:43 AM
does any of you try applying to Google?
 
@sam thats a nice question hahaha
 
Sam
of course, if I were as experienced as you guys, I wouldn't mind applying to a place like that
:D
 
@Sam , not me .. i would be scared to live in USA, and i am not sure they have development branches in other countries
 
Sam
lol.....I'm sure after making your first few millions, the fear will be turned into a wonderful feeling
of course, it's not all about the money....but if you can, earn it, right?
and yeah....the bragging rights too......I helped build that :)
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Poland only country in Europe that have 3 google HQs?
Whoa, even UK have only 2 HQs google.com/about/company/facts/locations
 
8:57 AM
These are long term strategies, it's for the event a country get's split.
 
@Donut just a small thing. if you're using third person singular, you always need to use 'has' not 'have' so: isn't Poland THE only country in Europe that HAS 3 ...
 
@markustharkun I always forget about has
 
Sam
lol
 

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