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Xeo
3:00 PM
@DeadMG Son, I am e-disappoint.
 
@Xeo The short is: Bartek is a sexist, Ell is sort of a sexist, and everyone else is rational.
 
@DeadMG your attempts to justify the obvious facts with some made up arguments are even more pathetic tbh
 
What obvious facts?
 
the facts you have presented do not support the conclusion you have drawn
 
7 mins ago, by Bartek Banachewicz
well, right now around 99% programmers is male
 
3:00 PM
by a billion miles
 
@BartekBanachewicz Yes, so what.
 
so tell me why it's 99%
 
@BartekBanachewicz This does not imply that males have a biologically superior programming ability (on average, of course)
 
@BartekBanachewicz Yes, and you're using those facts to comfort you in your position of not doing a shit to fix an obvious problem.
 
9 mins ago, by Bartek Banachewicz
I call mental issues with adapting mind to programming.
 
3:01 PM
4 mins ago, by DeadMG
@BartekBanachewicz It comes from the fact that men are biologically physically stronger and therefore set the culture to their own advantage for thousands of years.
 
I mean, I don't care if you don't want to act.
It's your choice.
 
for example, setting it so that education favoured them
 
@DeadMG sure
let's start here
 
@BartekBanachewicz Mental issues with adapting mind to programming, obviously.
 
okay, okay
 
3:02 PM
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I have met some female programmers, but I have no idea how good they are at programming. Most of them were quite bright.
 
I call BS, because of all the jobs that are not 99%
 
umwat
 
because some jobs are at 50%
some are at 20% towards male
 
er
 
3:02 PM
aha.
 
what do they have to do with a biological programming ability?
 
"it's all cultural".
 
I want to fuck tradition in the ass.
 
if you under-educate females, you will find a female bias in unskilled labour.
 
I don't give a shit about tradition.
 
3:03 PM
there's no surprise here
 
@DeadMG What about skilled labor other than programming?
 
@BartekBanachewicz You seem to give a lot of importance to how things are right now.
 
@BartekBanachewicz What about it?
 
@BartekBanachewicz We're talking about programming. Don't change the subject.
 
@EtiennedeMartel it illustrates my point
@DeadMG it's less than 99%
let's say... chemistry
 
3:04 PM
lol
 
@BartekBanachewicz So what?
 
something like that.
 
educational and cultural biases can be more specific.
 
Software development is a domain that is all about problem solving. Women, in general, see problems differently than men, and as such, we could benefit a lot from a different point of view.
 
3:04 PM
"Hey dudes, other fields have a different gender distribution; women totally suck at programming"
 
oh, so now we totally discourage women specifically from programming?
aha.
 
who said anything about active discouragement?
 
@BartekBanachewicz Not consciously.
 
Augusta Ada King, Countess of Lovelace (10 December 1815 – 27 November 1852), born Augusta Ada Byron and now commonly known as Ada Lovelace, was an English mathematician and writer chiefly known for her work on Charles Babbage's early mechanical general-purpose computer, the Analytical Engine. Her notes on the engine include what is recognized as the first algorithm intended to be processed by a machine. Because of this, she is often considered the world's first computer programmer. She was born 10 December 1815 as the only legitimate child to the poet Lord Byron and his wife Anne ...
 
but you might want to consider the whole "Tits or GTFO" attitude that pervades many, or even most, programmer environments, online games, etc.
 
3:05 PM
But with that "women suck at programming" attitude, it kinda makes them want to go in, eh?
 
the Internet culture in general extremely offensive and unpleasant for women
 
> Her notes on the engine include what is recognized as the first algorithm intended to be processed by a machine. Because of this, she is often considered the world's first computer programmer.
 
why would they enter this field?
 
they join a room like, say, this one, find someone like, say, you, telling them that they have no chance and must be terrible
 
3:06 PM
@DeadMG no, I've merely said about my personal experience
 
so either they conclude that you are accurate and they should find another field, or they conclude that you're a dick, programmers in general are dicks, and they should find another field
 
Like Telkitty?
 
@BartekBanachewicz And then extrapolated it to their genetic makeup.
 
I know about a lot of women being epic programmers, but that doesn't change a thing.
 
@BartekBanachewicz That experience sucks.
 
3:07 PM
@EtiennedeMartel not in a position to change my experience, huh?
 
@ScottW The attention whore is the vocal minority. That's like saying all Redditors are neckbeards.
 
@BartekBanachewicz You are in a position to not blow it out of proportion.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes which still permits the existence of great female programmers
 
@EtiennedeMartel But they are!
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Indeed. My point still stands.
@BartekBanachewicz Are you saying they are the exception?
 
3:08 PM
the issue isn't that everyone like Bartek is secretly a Nazi
 
Newsflash: great programmers in general are the exception.
 
the issue is that a), there are way too many of them, and b), we are far too tolerant of them
 
@DeadMG He can't be a Nazi, he's Polish.
 
@EtiennedeMartel true.
 
yiz
@Jeffrey huh what?
 
3:09 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Look! A can of worms!
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I could be a NeoNazi though
aaaaanyway.
 
@BartekBanachewicz And I'm Morpheus Hitler.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes people can hate themselves
 
I agree that cultural impact means a lot
 
@EtiennedeMartel Hey, I'm the one making Nazi jokes from Germany.
 
3:10 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yeah, but you're not German.
 
@BartekBanachewicz You seem to be missing the part where you're the problem.
 
Reminds me of the time I called @sbi a "grammar nazi". That went well.
 
at the same time, however, I feel that from what I've been able to gather on female thinking processes, they have a harder task to adapt to coding.
 
@EtiennedeMartel You should have capitalised it.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes lol
 
3:11 PM
probably all the smart women decided to find a field where most of their co-workers wouldn't be sexist dicks
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@DeadMG you seem to be missing the point that opinion.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Lalala not my first language lalala can't hear you lalala.
 
Brains are brains.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Opinion is far from mutually exclusive with problem.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Robots are sexy.
 
3:11 PM
 
guys
don't include Telkitty
 
@DeadMG Last two times actual girls showed up here I was nicer to them than any of you.
 
haven't you learned your lesson?
 
Anyway, everyone knows that the vast majority of male programmers doesn't suck at programming, right?
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yiz
Act like a man or you won't survive, I am a quick learner, I am quite ready to rip any offender into pieces :p
 
3:12 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Wow. Two times. That's quite the sample.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes s/doesn't/does/
 
@BartekBanachewicz Thank you for making his point for him.
 
the real difference between me and you is that I'm horrible to people independent of their gender
 
@ScottW I am just saying that I don't explicitly think about a girl programmer as worse automatically. I give everyone the chance
 
@ScottW no shit, we all are
 
sbi
3:13 PM
@DeadMG That would be game programming, then? :-/
 
@DeadMG You should fix that.
 
@sbi I don't think they have a much higher proportion than the rest of the industry (but also, at least games have being fun at core going for working with them)
 
@sbi Hey, could you crush @BartekBanachewicz's dreams and aspirations for us?
 
@BartekBanachewicz You failed to express that properly. As if you crashed into the Sun on a trip to Warsaw.
 
yes, I would really like to watch the ape destroy Bartek
 
3:14 PM
@ScottW yeah fuck but you had to call me names like 20 times
 
@DeadMG Game development isn't fun.
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@EtiennedeMartel I never said that working on games was fun.
 
@DeadMG yeah well I'm a fucking Nazi
 
(For the record, I make tools, not games)
 
but having games themselves be fun is good advertising for the games industry
 
3:15 PM
@BartekBanachewicz You're a pig, not a cat (obvious Maus reference).
 
phew.
let's talk about ruby. (obvious Wat reference)
 
Ruby sucks.
 
yiz
you guys wouldn't be ... threatened by women in anyways, would you?
 
I second that.
 
@yiz TITS or GTFO (kidding)
 
3:16 PM
I need to make an important decision.
Game night or quizz night?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes don't
 
@Ell thinks that Ruby doesn't suck, therefore he's a sexist alien southern neo-nazi
@R.MartinhoFernandes WHY NOT BOTH
 
:9850667 FYI, linking to that sort of thing is ok
 
@BartekBanachewicz Because different side of the city.
 
3:17 PM
Oh gawd ... MY EYES!
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Booze night.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Game.
 
yiz
so don't ever tell me to 'tits or gtfo'
 
@EtiennedeMartel Not Friday.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes So..?
 
3:18 PM
@yiz can't read, hope you're happy
 
When I was in university, thursday night was drinking night.
 
@DeadMG But there's a 1500€ jackpot on the quizz and my team is really good!
 
@yiz I see no tits, so I suspect GTFO
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Then why the fuck would you not quiz. Why are you even asking me this or standing around? Go go go go go.
 
A spider is roaming around on my desk.
 
Xeo
3:18 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes wat
 
@EtiennedeMartel Work tomorrow (and progress checkpoint at that)
 
It's pretty cool.
 
@EtiennedeMartel in English we say 'every day', not 'Thursday'
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes When I was an intern, thursday night was drinking night.
 
3:19 PM
@EtiennedeMartel I'm not an intern.
 
@EtiennedeMartel wednesday*
 
@ScottW I think you might be bipolar
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes When I started working, thursday night was drinking night.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes grgfafdafadd exams soon
 
I HOPE YOU GET THE POINT.
 
3:19 PM
lol
 
@ScottW get to 150 to catch them all
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@EtiennedeMartel Anyway, drinking buddies will be either at game night or quizz night.
 
My coworker is fucking scared of that spider.
 
@Aboutblank yeah well it's worse if we're talking about std
 
yiz
or many std::map<time, identity>
 
3:20 PM
@Xeo It's been growing steadily since January.
 
cpx
Guys. Today, I'm just coming from a shop after seeing a new laptop to buy. HP Envy m6-1213t.
 
@cpx don't buy a laptop
 
laptops are great. They are able to compress suckiness into mobile package.
so you can get sucky screen, sucky keyboard, sucky speakers, sucky mouse replacement, sucky performance everywhere you go!
 
cpx
I already have one, but this one is just getting old.
 
3:22 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Here's the deal: go to quizz night, win this, and spend the jackpot on alcohol.
@cpx Get either a tablet or a PC.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Et tu Brute?
(Ha, I got the vocative case right this time)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I recommend the PC.
 
6 mins ago, by Bartek Banachewicz
@R.MartinhoFernandes WHY NOT BOTH
 
@BartekBanachewicz Because money doesn't grow on trees or in my pubic hair.
 
Tablets are getting cheaper
 
3:24 PM
@EtiennedeMartel: What does grow in your pubic hair?
 
@wilx Bartek.
 
so in general for a price of good laptop you can get a decent PC and a tablet
@EtiennedeMartel I wore my rainbowdash shirt to school and work today
 
Yes, and neither is a total replacement of the other.
@EtiennedeMartel That's obvious when the alternative is yucky screen, no keyboard, sucky speakers, no mouse, and sucky performance everywhere you go!
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Exactly.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes of course. Why it should be?
 
cpx
3:25 PM
I don't really know why I'm buying a laptop/PC.
 
@BartekBanachewicz We've been over this. Because he's not you.
Elon Musk wants Mars now.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I don't consider my iPad's screen [a-z]ucky, TYVM
 
I've been eyeing the Nexus 10. Dat resolution.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Typo.
 
cpx
I already failed my computers degree.
 
3:26 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes he's not you either
 
yiz
But I can also say that to you guys ...
@Jeffrey Tits or GTFO
@R.MartinhoFernandes Tits or GTFO
@BartekBanachewicz Tits or GTFO
@EtiennedeMartel Tits or GTFO
 
@yiz You can stop now.
 
Why was I the first one?
 
@BartekBanachewicz Well, I am just going from what he wrote.
 
cpx
@EtiennedeMartel Apple Tablet?
 
yiz
3:27 PM
Was going to send that to the old ape, then I thought better not ...
 
@cpx or Nexus line
 
@cpx I don't like Apple products. Well, I like their products, but I hate the company behind them.
 
yiz
@Jeffrey you most likely to already have them :'(
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes tbh until we get decent usage pattern desc we're both equally wrong
 
All the arrogance in the world, in a convenient corporation-shaped package.
 
3:28 PM
@EtiennedeMartel yummy!
 
@BartekBanachewicz You are wronger, because your point of view is based on the assumption that the speaker is ignorant.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I am biased because of SO, where this condition is true in surprising majority of Qs
@ScottW they are not overpriced
 
cpx
Well, laptops are useless.
 
cpx
Still I just need one.
To replace this old one.
 
3:30 PM
@ScottW I hate all that "overpriced" saying hype.
 
haha laughing so hard now.
 
@ScottW show me another product with the specs comparable to Apple's with lower price
and meaning comparable I don't mean plastic Samsung's
 
@BartekBanachewicz FWIW, everyone else will say that they hate that "not overpriced; really good" hype.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I am in a mood to tackle a few like these today. Remember I am now dual-wielding iPad and Nexus :3
 
@ScottW The only reason PC ultrabooks are at all comparable in price to a macbook air is because Intel gives several hundred dollars discount to OEMs who promise to target that form factor. Apple's pricing certainly isn't uniformly high
(it used to be)
they still charge a hefty premium for some things, but on quite a few products, if you want comparable specs, you end up paying at least as much if you buy non-Apple stuff
 
3:32 PM
@ScottW you must be an expert on Apple prices then
 
So whatever happened to those guys who kept asking you blokes to stop swearing?
Oh, that's right, I suspended them
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Did anyone do that?
 
@BoltClock Oh. Thanks.
 
@ScottW btw, Nexus 10 - $500USD, Ipad2 - $529USD
 
@BoltClock Who?
 
3:33 PM
@Aboutblank $29 overpriced!
 
@Aboutblank meh, iPad 3's price is going to drop like hell soon
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes !!!
 
cpx
Is there anyone still using Windows XP?
 
Xeo
@BoltClock Smurf. ♥
 
@cpx on Virtual Machine
 
3:34 PM
@BartekBanachewicz I'm not disagreeing or agreeing. just trying to put some data behind arguments.
 
@cpx I'm not. But XP users do exist, yes
 
our uni uses XP on library PCs
 
5 hours ago, by jacob poole
Stop swearinng
 
most of the lab ones have 7 already
 
5 hours ago, by John
please stop swearing
 
3:34 PM
@Aboutblank FWIW that's probably 29€ or 29£ overpriced this side of the Atlantic, which is more.
 
cpx
I can't run anything but Windows XP on this old machine that I bought 6 years ago.
This new one comes with Windows 8!
 
if it can run XP it should in theory run 7
 
Conversion rate for prices is different from conversion rate for money. For prices, quite often $ = € = £.
 
@cpx happy upgrading to Windows 7
 
cpx
I'll be jumping straight from XP to Windows 8.
 
3:35 PM
Unless made in UK, then £ > €.
 
@BoltClock so, on a 1-9 scale, how much of a headache is the existence of this room for moderators? :)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes the latter is incorrect in most of the cases
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes NP. They wouldn't stop with their goddamned custom flags anyway so it was for my own benefit too
@jalf 11
 
@BartekBanachewicz How so?
 
I imagine it must be awkward sometimes to explain to people why you won't ban the hell out of people for behaving like a dick here ;)
 
cpx
3:37 PM
@BartekBanachewicz My current system that I'm on has 1.8 CPU Speed, 512 Ram.. It can hardly run XP.
 
@BartekBanachewicz (Or do you mean my late addition?)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes EU trade is rather free. Even with shipping costs buying something DE->UK would be much cheaper than € = £
@cpx well, that's like 1/4 of my cell phone, so I figure. But 7's real HW reqs aren't that high either. It's mostly about RAM taken nowadays
 
@BartekBanachewicz Well, sorry. I meant $ = € and $ = £ only, i.e. across the Atlantic.
 
Ok, let's leave that pointless "Apple is overpriced" nonsense aside. If anyone wants to bash Apple for something they really suck at, how about the fact that OSX apparently still can't do buffered keyboard input reliably? Aaaaaargh!
 
@jalf You have no idea
 
3:39 PM
@jalf lol, 90s technology.
 
@BoltClock well, we appreciate it very much. :)
 
@ScottW "roughly equivalent"
 
haha I knew it.
 
@cpx Sounds like 2005.
 
I was expecting less than 10 seconds, though.
 
cpx
3:40 PM
This is the one that I just saw at the shop.
 
In Singapore, everything is overpriced. The exchange rate is supposedly US$1 -> S$1.25 but it's looking more like US$1 -> S$1.50
 
@ScottW do we get to see some actual stats on these "roughly equivalent" systems?
@ScottW How about resolution, battery life and CPU?
 
cpx
Should I go for Core i7?
 
@cpx yes (at least if you're doing CPU-heavy stuff)
 
@ScottW I hope those are not the only metrics you use to compare. considering they are the easiest to replace.
 
cpx
3:41 PM
It's only a little expensive.
 
oh @R.MartinhoFernandes, 20130619 Lindsey Stirling will be performing in Berlin. I would go but I'm broke right now, and you might want to get there, if you like her music of course.
 
@cpx depends. i5 is enough for most.
 
@Aboutblank Not on MacBooks, though.
 
yiz
@BoltClock Singapore is a lot cheaper than Australia, we used to buy PCs in Singapore and bring them back here
 
@ScottW how about die-cast aluminium shell and glass IPS screen?
 
3:42 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Already going to a concert next week. And by now fully booked no doubt.
 
cpx
@Aboutblank That's what the guy who was selling it said.
 
@yiz I've heard my fair share of horror stories
 
@cpx depends
 
cpx
And it has 6 MB cache.
 
What's so good about aluminum, btw?
 
3:43 PM
@cpx fuck cache. It's either fast or faster.
 
Besides being dead cheap.
 
If you had told me a year ago that I'd end up today benchmarking and optimizing Javascript code, I'd probably have laughed...
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes extreme durability with acceptable weight compared to plastic
 
cpx
That's what he said.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes the material, yeah, but the manufacturing is much more expensive
 
3:44 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes It started a holy war on both its spelling and pronunciation
 
@ScottW resolution? IMO that's generally the dealbreaker. High res screens on PC laptops is seen as a blank cheque to add $400 to the price
 
@jalf retina anyone?
 
Is there a difference to "visual c++"
 
@user2442335 yes
 
@cpx Price is the biggest limiter in my experience, its not necessarily worth the extra cash for the power that you don't need. again, depends on what you plan on doing
 
3:45 PM
@BartekBanachewicz I guess I'll have to chalk it as something else I'll never get. I don't bring my laptops to warzones :S
 
@user2442335 Difference between visual C++ and what?
 
I guess regular c++? lol
 
cpx
@Aboutblank Exactly, what he said.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes it's not about warzones. It's about holding it with one hand, accidental hits, drops, etc, etc
 
@user2442335 Visual C++ is an IDE.
 
3:45 PM
ah.
 
@EtiennedeMartel and a C++ dialect
 
@BartekBanachewicz C++/CLI? Or MSVC's C++ extensions?
 
@user2442335 In that case, yes. C++ is a programming language. Visual C++ is an IDE comprised of both editor, compiler and other tools. And the compiler accepts some code which is not allowed by standard C++, and fails to accept some stuff which is standard
 
@EtiennedeMartel both are commonly referred to as "Visual C++"
 
cpx
Well, I just plan to get latest MS Visual Studio, MS office etc running on that computer.
 
3:46 PM
nah
 
@BartekBanachewicz C++/CLI is not commonly referred to as "Visual C++".
 
cpx
Yeah, and some games.
 
I don't think anyone refers to C++/CLI as Visual C++
 
@BartekBanachewicz That's what I meant by warzones ;P I guess I'm more careful than the average user.
 
sbi
@EtiennedeMartel Watcha talkin' 'bout?
 
Interesting.
Is there anybody from India? :)
 
(Though my last laptop was under a car's wheel once; survived fine)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes accidents happen.
 
@sbi Bartek becoming dead inside.
 
3:47 PM
@EtiennedeMartel Everytime I look in your eyes, every day I'm watching you die...
 
@wilx That's a rhetorical question, right?
 
sbi
@EtiennedeMartel I have no idea what you mean.
 
@BoltClock: Yes.
 
now if you get the reference that's a beer
 
hey @sbi what's with all this crazy flooding in Germany? :/
 
3:48 PM
@DeadMG I think quite a few people do. Being correct is a different matter.
 
@ScottW Pfffffff!!!
 
@ScottW Oh. Yeah, because a laptop with the same resolution you'd get in 2002 is totally equivalent to Apple's retina displays
 
@BartekBanachewicz Have I mentionned Hypnotize is the only SOAD album I did not own?
Mesmerize left a slighty bitter taste in my mouth, so I didn't even bother with getting the next one.
 
@ScottW Not in a while.
 
@EtiennedeMartel :3
 
3:49 PM
Or maybe it is. I have no idea which model you are checking.
 
@ScottW hurp durp retina
 
@ScottW what, really? In that case, you're comparing two laptops I would never ever recommend anyone buy, no matter their price
 
cpx
So, this "AMD Radeon HD 7670M (2 GB DDR3 dedicated)" should be enough for some nice gaming right?
 
@BartekBanachewicz Well, he's comparing the 13" entry one.
 
sbi
@jalf We had a rather wet spring soaking the soil, and on top of that we got heavy rain at the end of the last week. (In some places it rained more in two days than it usually rains in three months.) Now the Elbe and the Danube and a lot of their tributaries have reached incredibly high levels.
 
3:50 PM
@ScottW I'd say it's worth much more than that. But heck, look at how much Dell raises their prices if you pick a laptop with HD resolution (not retina, just not shitty 1366 either). The price easily goes up by $200
 
Who in their right mind writes code on a laptop without a second monitor?
 
@ScottW lol have you ever seen that?
@EtiennedeMartel if you have a 2nd screen you can use a regular workstation
@cpx blergh radeon :/
 
@cpx: That depends on how high resolution will be the LCD you will be playing it on.
 
Last time I used a laptop regularly was when I was in uni.
I could carry my work around.
In class, at friends' houses, etc.
 
sbi
What's the mod doing in here? He came like a @bolt from the blue. (SCNR)
 
3:51 PM
@ScottW I am yet to see a laptop with a screen comparable to Apple ones
 
Then, when I started working, I realized I did not need the mobility anymore.
 
@sbi we're petting him
 
cpx
@wilx 15.6" diagonal HD BrightView LED-backlit (1366 x 768)
 
sbi
@BartekBanachewicz Ew.
 
@sbi My face is moving towards my palm.
 
3:52 PM
@sbi Looks insane on the photos and stuff I've seen. :(
 
@ScottW sure, sugarcube. But there are people that wouldn't
 
@cpx: Ah. That's fairly low resolution. The GPU should be able to handle anything on that. :)
 
@BartekBanachewicz Bartek </3 Radeon?
 
6 hours ago, by BoltClock
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cpx
@wilx Oh that's sad.
And it has 8 GB RAM to waste.
 
3:53 PM
@ScottW So, today we discovered that if you're just after the cheapest of the cheap, and are willing to sacrifice all aspects of your hardware specs, then you get more bang for the buck with a PC than a Mac. That does not come as a surprise to me. However, my experience is that if you want something with reasonable high-end specs, Apple is actually often quite competitive
@ScottW (1) it's not equivalent then, and (2) that's missing my point
 
@ScottW Was it? I was under the impression you picked the one without retina.
 
If you're after low-end stuff, Apple is often more expensive than PC vendors. I'm agreeing with you
 
Aren't retinas 13" something like 1600x...?
 
@ScottW no, I'm saying that if you compare a low-end PC with a low-end Mac, they might have similar specs, but the PC will be cheaper
 
sbi
@jalf Yeah. In some places they hadn't had floods so high in hundreds of years. And there hasn't been one that lasts so long for decades either. (The longer the worse the stress on the dikes.) My mother's family is in danger to lose everything due to the Mulde (a tributary to the Elbe), my father's family faces the same at the Elbe. A lot of stress here.
@BoltClock So someone said "fuck" and you turned up? Or what am I to read into that citation?
 
3:55 PM
@melak47 My mobo has onboard NVIDIA 7000 series graphics but I'm running on a Radeon HD 4850 from about 4 years ago
 
But I'm also saying that if you compare a high-end PC with a high-end Mac, and they have similar specs, then the Mac might well be the cheaper system (in my experience, at least)
 
cpx
I don't know why I'm not happy that I'm buying a new laptop.
One should be happy right?
 
@BoltClock heh, I had a radeon and nvidia in my computer for a little while, too
 
@sbi Someone said fuck, someone else flagged it, I realized the flags were being raised by a known troll
 
sbi
When I am running (not often these days), I do it on my legs, not on graphics cards.
 
3:56 PM
@sbi Legs are the best!
 
@jalf I open doors with my legs.
 
@jalf Actually, they aren't. But they're quite flexible. Unless you are paraplegic.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Having legs opens a lot of doors
 
@melak47 AMD sucks
 
I'll just go into a corner and shoot myself for that joke.
 
3:57 PM
@BartekBanachewicz <3
 
My colleague here annoys me sometimes
 
@jalf Hands too.
 
sbi
@BoltClock Ow. Why do you guys even allow a known troll to be in the chat?
 
@jalf Are you an ableist, hmm?
 
@sbi Because we can't do permanent bans :(
 
3:58 PM
- I did it in form of a class
- but it was supposed to be simple (he's a java guy)!
- duh, I just used RAII, I set up everything in ctor and free in dtor, and I've used overloaded operator() to make it behave like a normal cosine function
- oh you are complicating it so much!!
 
Ok, time to leave. Gonna chase those €s. Wish me luck.
 
@BartekBanachewicz ..what's this, a poem?
 
@melak47 that's a conversation that just happened over my desk
Apparently I am complicating things by using RAII
 

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