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23:00
@sehe I'm a male model, not a native english speaker and I'm black.. cut me some slack. I'm not even supposed to be in here, right?
15.3/15 @MooingDuck @Jerry
Go read it.
@R.MartinhoFernandes I don't want to :( (but I will)
damn it.
Uh
Guize
@R.MartinhoFernandes thanks though, I'm a bit sad right now but will be alright as soon as I dereference a null-pointer or similar
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Yarp?
23:01
15 mins ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
@refp Sorry, I honestly have no idea how function try-catch works. It's something I have always steered clear of.
I need to get rid of a function based on whether or not the underlying type is non-copyable or non-movable.
I am a terrible liar.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yup -- quite right.
I'm inside of a template class.
SFINAE should allow me to do this, right?
@ThePhD certainly
23:02
Just for a single function though, right?
@R.MartinhoFernandes well I had no clue either, and I will never use it.. don't see the point of it really
I can disqualify just 1 function?
@refp Yeah, I probably had that reaction before, and when someone mentioned rethrowing it all came back.
(Btw, I merely grepped around for function-try-block to find that bit)
Hee hee, grep.
What a funny word.
@ScottW Any tutorial can. Javascript is not too hard. I got a crash course in ~40 minutes. It was with slides. Mmm. Maybe I have them somewhere
@Mysticial Screenshot for <10k? :P This is why I want 10k :P
Let's assume he wanted it gone.
Badly
@R.MartinhoFernandes honestly I was just too lazy to read that far
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@Mysticial lolwatlol
23:05
@sehe Damn you're fast...
Ahahaha :P
@sehe thanks
@Mysticial It's an opera plugin :) (horrible name: Screenshoter)
I have the FF plugin that @Rapptz referred me. And was about to upload when you already posted.
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@Mysticial file bug on meta :P
23:07
@Zoidberg No need.
He did it intentionally: meta.stackoverflow.com/a/9438/169611
Maybe I should find a FF plugin for Opera :| I don't see why people use other browsers
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Oh. :P
oh, haha :P
@Zoid your profile picture is gone? :O
@Mysticial I remembered that discussion, in fact.
@Doorknob Congrats. You're the 13th to ask
lol
why is it gone?
user142019
23:08
My avatar isn't gone.
user142019
It has changed.
Whimsical creature
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Ahh zoidberg, is your avatar gone?
@Zoidberg Why is your profile picture gone?
:)
@Zoidberg Liar. You said you sent it to /dev/null
23:09
@sehe Just like all his projects
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@Borgleader Well done, Sir. Have a star.
@Zoidberg nah, that didn't work (you hoped that by implying the star was yours, you'd stop the barrage of stars from flooding in)
As for why people use other browsers, iunno, personal preference I guess.
23:10
@Rapptz Gosh. Reading comprehension?
4 mins ago, by sehe
@Mysticial It's an opera plugin :) (horrible name: Screenshoter)
user142019
@sehe wat no
Sorry I only scrolled up until I saw "@rapptz"
@Zoidberg Ok, I'll add my star then
@Rapptz lol
we had such a nice flow going, anyone have any other interesting topic to discuss?
Anyone coming to the Lounge and seeing "Just like all his projects" on the starboard will immediately know it is about Zoidberg.
23:11
preferrably something that @R.MartinhoFernandes can't use as a "he against the world" thing
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Q: To what extent is C++ a statically-typed language?

Andy ProwlI used to think that the answer to this question was "100%", but I've recently been pointed to an example that makes it worth thinking twice. Consider a C array declared as an object with automatic storage duration: int main() { int foo[42] = { 0 }; } Here, the type of foo is clearly int[4...

Wut. You're so projecting that.
Adler would be stomach sick on sight
In case somebody feels like answering (or closing as non-constructive)
@AndyProwl Wow. That's quite an open minded invitation for a question you posted yourself :)
@sehe @R.MartinhoFernandes won that battle.. it was an eulogy to him
23:13
@sehe I was not sure myself, I feel confused about those things, so I admit it may not fit SO's format
@refp ... which battle? The noexcept? That was hardly 'him against the world'
@AndyProwl Well, you've come to the right place. Also, right on time:
2 mins ago, by refp
we had such a nice flow going, anyone have any other interesting topic to discuss?
user142019
Does Nullable.GetUnderlyingType work with only typeof(Nullable<T> for any T) or also on typeof(any reference type)?
@sehe it was him against the rest of us who didn't bother reading two pages further into the standard, and my remark was a joke
@AndyProwl Without a clear-cut definition of static typing, I don't think you can get a proper answer to that.
23:15
@Zoidberg The former, allthough the real answer is: try it
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csharp> Nullable.GetUnderlyingType(typeof(string))
null
csharp> Nullable.GetUnderlyingType(typeof(Nullable<int>))
System.Int32
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@sehe Thanks.
Is someone dissing my favorite robot?
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yes, that's probably the case
Because I might need to break some legs.
23:16
@Zoidberg That's rather a surprise. I'd have expected it to throw on string
@Andy Btw static typing is not about having all types determined at compile-time, but having them checked.
@R.MartinhoFernandes That's a useful insight
ha! Chrome has awesome extensions too :D
IMO the less type errors you can get at runtime, the more static typing you have.
23:18
@refp Projecting your character weakness on him. Not a very nice joke.
He wasn't alone. The puppy, and I agreed. And the standard, of course.
@EtiennedeMartel I am!
@sehe I missed that.
alright, let us talk about exceptions.. is this valid try {break; } catch (...) { ... } since the standard says, quote: "A goto, break, return or continue statement can be used to transfer control out of a try block or handler. When this happens, each variable declared in the try block will be destroyed in the context <bla bl>"? (15 /3)
@refp course it is
@sehe I'm not very nice :(
@MooingDuck then gcc has a bug?
23:20
@refp is your break inside a construct where break is allowed?
@refp yawn. not gonna rehash this. IIRC the gist of it: user defined types are ok and always deterministically (re)initialized/destructed. Primitives, not so much (as you'd expect, since you can also declare them uninitialized, or jump past the initialization)
@MooingDuck well, the above snippet is pretty much where the break is in construct
@refp Multiple
@sehe wait, what?
23:21
@refp You can only break out of loops or switches.
@refp It's not well formed.
@R.MartinhoFernandes what does the standard mean by that sentence then?
(FFS switch)
@refp That you can have a try inside a loop and a break inside that try.
@refp that a break is allowed to break out of a loop even if it's in a try/catch.
@refp Your question basically comes down to general branching/control flow in C++. Lookup the top answers for goto in
23:22
@R.MartinhoFernandes oh fuck of course, I'm bloody stupid
@sehe I think you misread
@Bartek I saw a couple of things that I liked and a couple of things that I didn't like.
> This seems okay on the face of it: you have kept the various *Visited() methods as private and only permitted the Graph class to access our internal details. However, the problem with this is that the friendship offer is based on the name of the other class only. It would therefore be possible for clients to create their own class called Graph, which would then be able to access all protected and private members of Node
@MooingDuck No, I interpreted it as a sane question. I looks like I should have interpreted as an insane question :|
It is silly to twist your API/implementation to protect against Machiavelli like that.
@sehe insane in the membrain!
23:23
@MooingDuck Of course, like the robot, I knew there had to be a surrounding control structure that allowed break
> So, by using friends you are leaving a gaping hole in your API that could be used to circumvent your public API boundary and break encapsulation.
@refp meme-brain
(Plus that involves violating the ODR, which UB)
the meme-brain is an awesome brain, everyone should have one!
@MooingDuck même-brain
23:24
même-bräin
You're not French
what's that called where they abuse unicode characters to get creepy looking text all over?
yeah, that
@sehe the use of Ä is a good hint of where I'm from
23:25
@MooingDuck mèm҉e̡-b͜rąi̵n͞
@refp Also, the number of times you've "hinted" at your country (of origin?) helps
I like taking things out of context in the standard and saying that there are compiler bugs present btw
@refp But you'll have to try harder to become a worthy Schaubulator
@sehe well, my skin color isn't a good hint if that's what you are implying
@refp That too.
Feb 22 at 0:05, by refp
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I'm a swedish nigger, I don't know much about nothing.
@sehe I never said that.
23:28
I believe you.
And I care.
Deeply
@sehe I believe in you, don't worry.
Dafuq's going on in here?
worst question I have seen (well, one of the worst) stackoverflow.com/questions/15938263/…
I've seen worse
I second that, I've seen much worse.
23:32
@Bartek I think the C++ bits aren't great. I don't know if you will find the general API lifecycle and whatnot bits interesting, but I think most of that stuff is somewhat obvious. It might not be totally terrible but I wouldn't shell out 40 euros for it.
Plus, a commenter on the German site says "Kindle Edtion nicht gut: Hier ist wieder das Problem mit dem Code und die Kommentare die durcheinander gehen! Die UML Diagramme sind auch nicht gut lesbar!"
I did say "one of the worst" :P I was thinking of things like buying rep or something XD
@R.MartinhoFernandes I fully agree with that gibberish.
Abridged version "The Kindle sucks because of the code and commentaries and diagrams"
@Doorknob stackoverflow.com/questions/14965621/…, just sort questions based on votes and go to the last page and you will find plenty of questions such as this one
Neopets? That thing's still alive? — Etienne de Martel 4 secs ago
23:33
@refp Even more fun - do it on meta :P
@EtiennedeMartel Yeah, something about it being hard to read.
@Doorknob actually there aren't that many "stupid" questions on meta, mostly questions that doesn't belong there, or that have weird requests. stupid questions are found on SO
I'm reopening this question with minor edits for constructiveness. This isn't about Lasse or any other moderator or close-voting user. Also, I'm pretty sure USSR didn't close questions; they'd proceed straight to incarceration for life. — Anna Lear 2 hours ago
@AJB I'm going to ask you (and everyone else here, but I can only ping one person) to abandon making comparisons between Stack Exchange and USSR, Nazi Germany, real-life dictators and other things of that ilk. Nothing we ever do on these websites will ever come close to the real-life atrocities committed in the past and unfortunately still being committed in the world. Let's not trivialize real tragedies by comparing in-the-grand-scheme-of-things minor inconveniences we encounter on the Internet to them. — Anna Lear 1 hour ago
@Mysticial I was about to write that Godwin's Law was in the air
23:40
Fell for the bait?
@EtiennedeMartel I still have my account on that site. Started it about 13 years ago.
@Mysticial Yeah, I think I also have mine.
I heard it's really bad now. The site is extremely insecure. They store passwords in plain-text. Their forms are all vulnerable to SQL injection.
Every single high-profile account has been hacked into multiple times.
I can't believe the amount of misconceptions people have about Unicode. :(
> They store passwords in plain-text.
That's a standard industry practice.
@DomagojPandža Tell me about it.
(I mean, don't)
23:44
I heard you can hack into any account with just the username by simply using SQL injection to print out the password in plain text.
I have taken to lurk the tag and it is depressing.
So everybody has to keep their accounts secret.
Including myself.
Because the name of the account is essentially the password itself. lol
ahaha
I had a brown Shoyru.
That's all I remember.
Yeah... I used to be a fairly active and semi-high profile user with about 200-300 million in item value (probably more now due to inflation). But I quit and disappeared from view before it became clear how insecure the site is.
Started playing in middle school. Quit when I entered college.
23:47
It's a shining example of a good idea gone terribly wrong.
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I remember playing a bit. Hasee bounce :L
Neopets? That thing looks like it was written by a one-legged barking chicken.
@DomagojPandža It probably is...
@DomagojPandža Are you talking about a DeadMG-Telkitty hybrid?
@R.MartinhoFernandes Everyone knows a string is just an array of code units.
23:48
OMG WHAT HAVE I DONE TO MY IMAGINATION
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Someone find a profile pic for DeadKitty!
@R.MartinhoFernandes I think you should watch some MLP to heal the damage.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Don't do it, Robot!
The damage of MLP is vastly greater than that any DeadKitty can invoke.
@EtiennedeMartel Not sure if that's available here in Germany.
@ThePhD Did you even watch the pilot?
23:50
.... Maayybe.
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I wonder if chat can one box base 64 jpeg data
@EtiennedeMartel I did
I wanted to see what all the fuss was about and why people on /co/ were so obsessed over it
Needless to say, I don't get it. I don't think I ever will.
But whatever floats their boat \o/
The more I think about it, the more I realize it's probably the awesome characters.
At least for me.
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Google image'ing "dead kitten" gives loads of possible profile pics
23:53
Anyway. I don't really care if you dislike it, as long as you at least try.
Don't judge something by it's cover. Aside from that, think what you want.
@EtiennedeMartel Surprisingly that works.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Stopstopstopsotstop
@TemporaryNickName Well, that's an itchy profile picture...
23:53
Quickly, close the Window!
@R.MartinhoFernandes ALT+F4 ALT+F4 QUICK
@Mysticial thx
Don't judge the ponies. Embrace them.
@Rapptz In other news, justice.
lol
Who would hire him now after that I wonder?
Same with everyone else who makes a big fuss out of things online.
23:57
Haha.
Get fucked.
That's what you get for supporting always-online, bitch.
You want always-online? Pay for my FiOS, mother fucker.
ThePhD, laying the smackdown no one needed. One smackdown at a time.
user142019
boo

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