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8:00 PM
@DeadMG He's scared of losing rep or something
 
sbi
@DeadMG That's without the "www.", though.
 
user379888
@DeadMG: According to the rules I can ask a question here also, still I know SO is a better place. Its a small bug anyway
 
in the C++ chat room we try to rigorously stay off-topic
 
Xeo
@sbi You say that all the time, but to us, you are Uncle FAQ
 
although I personally especially hate it when people ask questions in here that would be valid questions on the main site
 
user379888
8:02 PM
@TonyTheTiger: its an object
 
other room members don't seem to care as much
 
sbi
@JustAnotherProgrammer Well, wouldn't you know... @Xeo had just posted a link to this question, which explains why the 2nd line in your code is wrong.
 
@sbi: Semantically wrong, yes- but the compiler is giving a syntax error
 
sbi
@DeadMG I didn't read passed the 2nd line. :)
 
@sbi: Ownt, kek
 
Xeo
8:03 PM
@JustAnotherProgrammer ofstream::binary isn't a valid flag afaik, it should be ios::bin
 
sbi
@DeadMG Indeed. There was a time I would stomp on any C++ discussion that would raise its ugly head here, but I was utterly alone on this mission, so I gave up.
And according to the newbie hints, asking questions here is Ok. :)
 
I don't stomp on C++ discussion, but I do like to stomp on C++ Questions, as defined in the FAQ
oh, I have a question
if I have 2^(log(N)), then does that make it polymorphic in N?
I totally forgot my laws of logarithms
 
sbi
@DeadMG See, everybody has their pet peeves.
 
another pet peeve of mine is formal computer science definitions
apparently, the formal definition of a grammar is (N, T, S, P), where N and T are the list of non-terminal and terminal symbols, respectively, but S is the grammar in BNF/EBNF, where all the symbols are given anyway
 
user379888
My reputation has turned into binary digit, lol
 
8:07 PM
so wtf was the point of listing them again separately? if you want to know if something's a terminal or non-terminal symbol, just read the BNF grammar
 
Xeo
@JustAnotherProgrammer Really? I don't see that. :)
 
user379888
@Xeo: 5 minutes ago it was 1010 , SO never keeps me happy interms of reputation :P
 
in programming languages?
don't worry, those are supposed to go badly
 
yes
yeah, but I really need to do well
amagad
last years exam paper has a "Write a regular expression to parse HTML" question
 
What did you write? "no"?
2
 
8:17 PM
no, I'll probably make something up
I hate regexes anyway
 
@DeadMG correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that impossible?
 
questions on regular expressions are "Do you recall the exact semantics of this special character?"
yes
 
Xeo
@ildjarn, thanks for that helpful link to llvm :)
 
user379888
Parsing is changing javascript to where?
 
well, I guess we're actually talking about XHTML, not HTML
 
8:18 PM
@DeadMG well, it can't be done for xhtml either
 
user379888
Ohk
 
yeah
Imagine that you have a data mining mission to glean information from
this page. Assuming that the information is in an html table in a "no frills"
html document, write a regular expression to obtain the values Name,
Room and Extn from the html version of the page
 
ah right
 
I guess that you could do
 
@jalf I can't be absolutely certain, of course. OTOH, in the companies I've looked at, there's a pretty strong correlation between developers having fairly "normal" machines, and producing usable results. I never said compiling can't happen on a faster machine -- but a developer shouldn't normally be able to directly use the faster machine for his own testing (or other uses).
 
user379888
8:21 PM
@Xeo: I am not taking input in my code, how do I use it ?
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5605125/why-is-iostreameof-inside-a-loop-condition-considered-wrong
 
thought you meant writing a regex to parse any html doc
 
<tr><td>Name:</td><td>.*<td/><tr/>
td is table cell, right?
 
Xeo
@JustAnotherProgrammer Huh?
 
Xeo
@sbi Was there ever another answer voted that high on SO?
 
sbi
8:25 PM
@Xeo I hate databases, so why don't you find out for yourself?
 
"Even Jon Skeet cannot parse HTML using regular expressions." HERESY!
 
Is it just me or did the Jon Skeet jokes get old after about 3 minutes?
 
@jalf They're new to me, so I can confirm -- yes
 
@ildjarn: you can confirm it's just him, or that the jon skeet jokes get old quickly? :)
 
@cHao Good point. The latter :-P
Alternatively, yes
 
8:37 PM
well, I very rarely see any Jon Skeet jokes
so they tend to remain funny for me
 
that oughta get you sick of them quick enough
 
@cHao Yes, too many jokes kills the jokes.
 
And too many zombies kills you.
 
8:53 PM
Not in Diablo 2.
 
@Xeo A quick check shows that it is, in fact, the highest scoring answer ever on SO. The next highest has about one third the score (1559 compared to 4351).
 
9:09 PM
It'd probably be higher if it weren't locked, too
 
@ildjarn Quite true. I'm too lazy to re-do a query to check, but if somebody wanted to badly enough, they might be able to come up with an estimate based on voting percentages and number of views.
 
Hello guys ;)
 
Xeo
hm... @DeadMG, can you have a 2D array in HLSL?
 
9:25 PM
Could somebody help me with my problem ?:) stackoverflow.com/questions/6284821/similar-elements-from-lists
 
@Xeo: Pretty sure that you can
the in-built float4x4 etc is a float[4][4]
ok, this irks me a little
last year's exam question
When describing the structure of a Javascript program, what groups (and
subgroups) of tokens might occur
"Memorize the Javascript grammar specification", thanks very much module
 
Xeo
10:03 PM
Hell yeah, mango <3
 
G.I.R.L = Guy In Real Life... No exceptions.
 
rule 34: Men are men, women are men, and children are undercover F.B.I. agents
wait, is that rule 34 or another one?
 
Xeo
the other
rule 34: if it exists, there is porn of it. no exceptions.
 
by the way
2^(log2(n)) = n, right?
 
Xeo
should
 
10:16 PM
yes, afaik
 
sex
 
triple cheeseburgers with onion rings
 
Xeo
mango!!
that said, my mango is now finished :(
achievement unlocked: mango reduced to nothing
@TonyTheTiger Oh, does that mean that @sbi believed that I'm a guy all along?
 
@Xeo MMm...green mango shakes. One of the best things about the Philippines.
 
Xeo
10:53 PM
@Johannes was a freak all along ...
 
11:12 PM
lol
 
Xeo
11:31 PM
Damn it. Half an hour left to get 78 rep
 
pretty easy if the right question pops up
 
Xeo
yeah
but it indeed must popup first
 
did I discuss with you my suggestions for p = np
 
Xeo
You mentioned it, but I don't understand a thing. :)
 
humph
I'm a genius among peasants here
 
Xeo
11:38 PM
Pff
 
lol
well
if I was really a genius, I'd prove it myself
 
Xeo
Oh well, I give up on repcap today
 
repwhore
 
Xeo
Time to continue working on my shader exam...
Yes, problem? :P
 
lol
 
Xeo
11:40 PM
I want that legendary badge
 
what is that badge?
 
Xeo
reached repcap on 150days
 
ah- earned repcount 150 days
 
sheesh. 150?
 
Xeo
Yea
There's an "Epic" one before that though: 50 !
 
11:41 PM
i'm not even gonna try for that one...lol
i think i've hit the rep cap like....5 times since i started
 
yeah, it's really rare, even for a Geniusâ„¢ like myself
 
Xeo
But I wonder, does it really mean repcap as in, 200 rep, or as in 200 rep from upvotes only?
 
often depends on simple questions with obvious answers being asked, and you getting the first accurate response
 
Xeo
Yeah
 
It's 200 rep.
 
Xeo
11:43 PM
Good answers to complicated questions are rarely upvoted that high
because nobody bothers with the question, why should they bother with the answers?
 
yeah
 
Xeo
@MartinhoFernandes Ah, good to know
 
the lower the audience for the question, the lower the audience for the answer
 
Xeo
> rep cap was reached via rep from upvotes *only* on 17 days
> earned at least 200 reputation on 21 days
/meh
 
@Xeo 200 or more in a day -- even if part of that is from accepted answers so you may still be eligible to receive more rep from upvotes that day. Unfortunately, it's non-transferable, so I can't give you my 32 extra days...
 
Xeo
11:45 PM
Heh
 
you know
 
Xeo
Hm. One (maybe rude) question, but does Neil Butterworth even do any work?
 
I don't think that my P = NP proof is gonna work
he does gain a sick amount of rep over time
 
@Xeo He could very well have SO access at work
 
Xeo
@LucDanton rephrased that :P
 
11:48 PM
how did you view how many days you got over 200 rep on?
 
Xeo
Scroll to bottom
or tail it
 
29 days
 
Just 10 :(
 
you know
if (2^(log(n)) == n)
then logically, 2^(log(f(n))) == f(n)
and in fact, as long as f(n) itself is polynomial, then the result will still be polynomial
 
Xeo
You mean log2
 
11:53 PM
yeah
 
Xeo
What exactly is "polynomial"?
 
I still don't really think it's gonna work
well, it basically means not exponential
faster than exponential
 
It means f(n) is a sum of powers of n.
 
x^1,000,000,000 is polynomial, but x^n is non-polynomial
 
Xeo
f(x) = x³ + 2x² + x
?
 
11:54 PM
That.
 
polynomial
(x+1)(x+1), distinctly
 
Xeo
k
 
ok, here's another question
 
Xeo
Been too long since I needed that math stuff..
 
what if I had 2^(ln(n))
 
Xeo
11:55 PM
I remember being really good at math in highschool, but ...
 
Base does not matter for complexity.
 
I've long forgotten my laws of logarithms
 
Xeo
@DeadMG you mean log2 again?
 
no
 
ln usually means base e.
 
11:55 PM
I mean ln, as in, base e
 
Xeo
k
 
but would the result of 2^(ln(n)) still be polynomial?
 
Hmmm... I think so, but I'll have to calculate.
ln(n) = log2(n) / log2(e).
 
according to Wolfram Alpha, it becomes n^(ln(2))
 
Xeo
Hm. I thought of redirecting @DeadMG to the Math.SE chat, but that one is empty...
 
11:58 PM
yeah
 
Xeo
@MartinhoFernandes I like how you can get a log of any base by dividing the log2 or log10 of n by the log2 or log10 of the wanted base.. Or using any other logX for that matter
I never understood how it worked, though
 
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