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@LightnessRacesinOrbit Since "community Wiki" is the default thing that happens, I think there needs to be some "reasons that a mod might un-CW a post", but I can't imagine what those reasons would be.
@Zoidberg Nooooo, Simon was interrupted :(
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@TonyTheLion As for debugging inside pure functions, you can use trace from Debug.Trace.
> Have a good, quick break. HHHRRRRR.
@JohannesSchaub-litb: You managed to turn my certainties back into confusion - but I guess that's what leads to real knowledge :-) If the compiler looks at initializer list constructors first, why does it not pick vector<string>(initializer-list), which is a viable one? — Andy Prowl 9 mins ago
@MooingDuck "It's particularly awesome and rici deserves the rep" is the reason. :D
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Don't ever use trace in production, though. It can fuck up everything, especially when optimizations are turned on.
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Although it probably doesn't matter due to rep cap, anyway. I only got 150 rep this day :)
wait, what's that new question?
100+ votes
"Is C++ context-free or context-sensitive?"
@LightnessRacesinOrbit to make a valid reason, we'd first have to understand the reasoning for the origonal decisions for "make it CW if it's been edited by the OP ten times".
this questio sounds familiar though. i could bet it appeared already in the past
23:03
@JohannesSchaub-litb You missed that? It's from yesterday.
@Zoidberg our code uses trace very liberally
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You use Haskell?
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AWESOME.
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@zoidberg how is zoidlang?
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@Ell The same as a month ago.
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23:04
does it have a working parser?
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No.
yesterday, by FredOverflow
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Q: Is C++ context-free or context-sensitive?

FredOverflowI often hear claims that C++ is a context-sensitive language. Take the following example: a b(c); Is this a variable definition or a function declaration? That depends on the meaning of the symbol c. If c is a variable, then a b(c); defines a variable named b of type a. It is directly initiali...

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It has a working VM.
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Lexer?
@FredOverflow Not the point!
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23:05
@Ell not complete, but so-far it works. See github.com/zoidlang/zoidlang.
@MooingDuck That's why I asked Shog9.
@JohannesSchaub-litb "New"?!
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I wrote a simple lexer today
im not that often on SO anymore these days
@Zoidberg Watching a Haskell video in sync was pretty fun. Thanks for collaborating :)
23:05
i am caught up by real life
@JohannesSchaub-litb nor IRC
@JohannesSchaub-litb What's in it?
@JohannesSchaub-litb everything okay?
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Then I tried to put in code embedded in strings like ruby, then couldn't decide what the token output for that would be
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@Ell a new lexer object?
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23:07
would it go string, lexer object, string?
@LightnessRacesinOrbit hmm?
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@Ell he, good question. Most decent thing I can think of is this:
@Shog9 he wants you to un-community-wiki this post based off of "it's a good answer and he deserves rep"
@Shog9 I was wondering what the criteria are for un-CW-ing an answer, and whether @rici's excellent answer could qualify.
@MooingDuck Not so much the physical acquisition of rep as the principle of it all.
Point is, it's not as if that's an answer that's been edited over and over again over lots of time. It's particularly long and has grown organically quite quickly to form one coherent answer that will soon be one of those "historical" posts that seem to get to avoid all the rules
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@Ell "foo #{bar() + 42} lol #{meh} baz" // => token{kind::string_begin, "foo "}, token{kind::interpolation, lexer{"bar() + 42"}}, token{kind::string_part, " lol "}, token{kind::interpolation, lexer{"meh"}} token{kind::string_end, " baz"}
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23:10
(With boost::any or boost::variant.) (Or maybe use polymorphism.)
Worst case, the post doesn't fit the criteria but we find out what those are :)
@LightnessRacesinOrbit It seems you won :)
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Basically, if the author didn't do something dodgy to make it CW, and isn't likely to do something dodgy with it after it's no longer CW, it doesn't have to be CW.
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Haskell and binary data y u such a pain.
@Shog9 Okay that's basically what I figured. Thanks :)
23:15
@Shog9 What would be an example of dodgy here?
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Ahh right okay, I guess
@FredOverflow Someone writing an answer that turns out to be wrong over and over again so they keep changing it based on comments or whatever? And at some point the camel's back breaks and says "stop being a tard"
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CW is cancerous.
@FredOverflow If it's literally a collaborative effort between 5 different people, it probably should be CW. If someone's bumping it repeatedly with trivial edits to churn for rep, it definitely should be CW. These are the triggers for auto-CW - which is disabled permanently after a moderator revokes it.
@LightnessRacesinOrbit yeah everything fine
23:16
(which I did, on that post, incidentally)
but I'm going to move, so it's all a bit messy right now :)
@JohannesSchaub-litb far?
@shog9 thanks
and @LightnessRacesinOrbit
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For some reason I don't think the lexer should do none regular stuff like bracket matching, is this correct?
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Oops I meant shiuldnt do non regular
@JohannesSchaub-litb Why?
@Ell You know you can edit your posts for two minutes, right?
I kinda get why it's only two minutes, but it's also a bit annoying
I'm so used to the five minutes from SO proper that I don't tend to get around to subconsciously checking my previous messages for typos until about 3 minutes in
23:21
@JohannesSchaub-litb Where are you going?
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Hmm.
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Would unsafeCoerce from Word16 to Int16 be safe in GHC?
@FredOverflow Frankfurt! xD
@JohannesSchaub-litb Will you walk?
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23:24
@fredoverflow for some reason on mobile is says I can't edit posts sometimes, else I would have :/
Hey! Great news!
2¾ days until @MooingDuck gets a kitten!
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unsafeCoerce (42 :: Word32) :: Int32 works! Yay!
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Fuck. ;_;
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Wait wat.
@JohannesSchaub-litb What will you be doing there?
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23:26
ghci> unsafeCoerce (-1 :: Int32) :: Word32
-1
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I have a negative unsigned integer!
@FredOverflow doing masters in TU Darmstadt
and working near frankfurt :)
@JohannesSchaub-litb Informatik, I suppose?
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Q: When did Community Wiki die?

amanaP lanaC A nalP A naM AI just saw a comment that stated that community wiki is dead: What does that mean? The OP was just stating that if you do not want to seem like you are "farming" rep, mark the post as community wiki. So what does that mean that it is "dead"?

@FredOverflow yeah
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23:28
This makes no sense. I'm confused.
casper casper casper
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typeOf does show Word32.
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And Word32 is unsigned.
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Yet the value printed is -1.
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Maybe show is bugged.
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23:32
Can you get the address of stuff in haskell? I'm almost 100% the answer is no
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Haskell has pointers.
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And probably with some GHC hacks you can.
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It has pointers?
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@Ell Only really used for optimizations and for interfacing with C.
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23:35
Haskell doesn't really have objects so it doesn't really make sense to take an address of something.
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You can take the address of functions if you want.
You know that feel, when you hit a problem, and that the one colleague who can help you has just left?
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What about values?
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foreign import ccall "&func"
funcaddr :: FunPtr (IO ()) -- the address of func

foreign export ccall func :: IO ()
func :: IO ()
func = putStrLn "Hello, world!"
^ Brillant. Next time someone debits "There is no 'I' in team ... " :)
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23:37
@etienne I feel like that when my internet goes down :(
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@Ell that's like taking the address of an rvalue in C++.
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What would be the address of 1?
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Oh
@sehe that seems to have "gone viral" today
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&1 -- meh
23:37
@EtiennedeMartel ... the planet
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Haskell has only const rvalues. :)
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Oh. I'm always late reading twitter
@EtiennedeMartel Heh. No.
What did the polar bear say to the penguin? Nothing, they don't live on the same continent.
@sehe Someone FB'd it earlier
23:38
^ this should be wellknown here (sbi takes care of that)
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@sehe so that's why you never talk to @jalf?
@sehe That only means the penguin won't hear him.... doesn't mean he doesn't say it....
And maybe he uses the internet? Or a phone?
@Zoidberg I try not to
@LightnessRacesinOrbit lololol
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Gah. Notice the twitter account, mebbe?
23:39
@sehe Is it that meta?
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I'll call my to-be-forever-unfinished Minecraft server clone Lambda Ore.
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What are you supposed to do if you figure out one of those math problems you win cash prizes for? Who do you talk to?
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To me.
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So I can send them in and get all the money. :D Fuck, shouldn't have told that.
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:3 noo, I want all teh monies :(
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23:41
/b/
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Which is the worst and most restrictive GPL license?
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v3 isn't it?
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GPL-2, GPL-3, LGPL-2.1 or LGPL-3?
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Isn't it the latest one
Lgpl is less restrictive IIRC. Tbh I really don't know :o
23:43
Why are dogs so silly?
Do you count AGPL?
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Cos they are dumb
that's even more restrictive.
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Ah fuck it, I'll use BSD.
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BSD is a cool license.
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23:43
It doesn't give a damn.
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zLib is even cooler.
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It gives even less of a damn than BSD does.
@Zoidberg You're gonna love this, on the question "How would you improve this course?" a student gave this answer:
And this, frankly, just seems criminal:
23:45
> The Logan County Sheriff's Office says this is clearly an accident and they aren't expecting criminal charges -- A 3-year-old child in Guthrie died [...]
The WTFPL (Do What the Fuck You Want to Public License) is an extremely permissive way of licensing intellectual property rights, most commonly used as a permissive free software license. It is essentially no different from dedication to the public domain. was written by Banlu Kemiyatorn who used it for Window Maker artwork. Sam Hocevar, a French programmer who was the Debian project leader from 17 April 2007 to 16 April 2008, wrote version 2.0. It allows for redistribution and modification of the software under any terms—licensees are encouraged to "do what the fuck [they] want to". The l...
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@FredOverflow am I allowed to put that in my bio?
@Zoidberg Try it <-- harder
@Zoidberg Is that a serious question? :)
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Ah well. Simple geometric shapes: no copyright.
23:47
> The probable limit of possibility... is a year because it's been a year that this supplier has been supplying.
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FCUK IT.
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@Zoidberg If any, it would be with the original creators of the character
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23:48
Hmm, how would I do in Haskell a Minecraft game tick.
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I was thinking of this:
@Zoidberg tick?
@FredOverflow Drew it yourself?
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@sehe One tick. Like, every tick everything updates its state.
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I was thinking of tick :: GameState -> Random -> GameState.
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23:49
But maybe I can do something more fancy with arrows.
3 mins ago, by FredOverflow
@Zoidberg You're gonna love this, on the question "How would you improve this course?" a student gave this answer:
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@FredOverflow oh missed that lol. Cool. :P
@Zoidberg Minecraft is java. You cannot do a minecraft game tick in Haskell (unless you write a JVM in Haskell. Oh wait... )
@Zoidberg Incroyable
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@sehe No I mean in a server implementation in Haskell.
23:49
@sehe <3
Alors, c'est le mercredi, hein?
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lol "globals" in Haskell.
Lightness Races in Orbit, Nottingham, United Kingdom
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cool
didn't know it did that
also, I want more fucking badges
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23:50
main :: IO ()
main = do
    my''Global'' <- newIORef 42
    -- define all functions in here as lambdas
@EtiennedeMartel Isn't it? Oh shit. I didn't notice the time
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@LightnessRacesinOrbit 69k nice number.
@Zoidberg Haha that's funny because it's a sexual position, see.
23:51
@sehe Nous sommes effectivement mercredi.
Thank fuck for @Andrei!
I knew I was getting old when I stopped snickering at the number 69.
@EtiennedeMartel You guys. Always a little late
@AndreiTita I never did. I must have been fossile at birth
@AndreiTita I don't think I ever "snickered" at it.
@AndreiTita sexual position? Explain further.
23:53
@Crowz Like, how people place their bodies with respect to one another when they fuck.
@AndreiTita Pics?
Meh, google it.
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Also...
Would you stop it with those pictures?
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I already stopped, you fool.
23:56
ITT the sarcasm level is... stupid meme
@Zoidberg Thank you very much.
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D:
@sehe Yes.
@AndreiTita You took long to reach such an obvious conclusion
@sehe I had it on a low-priority thread.

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