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lol
@MooingDuck Nice obfusctorization.
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Is SO for a work environment only?
@Ell not at all. or maybe I misunderstood. What do you mean by that question?
@ShotgunNinja I almost mentioned that you misspelled that...
@MooingDuck It's a new coined term, a mix of obfuscation and refactorization.
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@MooingDuck Well I just don't see how that question would be highly appropriate - maybe it isn't appropriate for a work environment, but it is only a bit of fun isn't it? I like to think a dick operator wouldn't be innapropriate
18:05
@Ell void operator&=>(...)
I'm scarred for life...
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8==>
@Crowz You learn to work around the scars.
@Ell 8 would resolve into a numeric literal. & is close enough.
@Ell ah, then yes, SO must itself be professional yes.
A sociology major came in for computer science tutoring
18:11
@Crowz Wat.
@ShotgunNinja she had a compsci minor hah but was a welcome change
@Crowz Comp Sci minor? Sounds even less prepared for a job.
She was pretty smart. Smarter than a lot of people I've tutored
Was she hot?
Ya
part of... "was a welcome change"
18:16
@StackedCrooked would you want to mention your server on this question? I figured I'd ask permission before giving out the link even more publicly.
Alright, this better work.
@Crowz Nice. Single?
@ShotgunNinja No idea hah
@Crowz Has she mentioned a boyfriend?
Nah man
18:18
@Crowz Bring it up casually in conversation, like, "Isn't your boyfriend gonna be upset you keep coming to me for tutoring rather than spending time with him?"
@ShotgunNinja Well, well, aren't you quite the smooth operator.
There are three responses to that. 1) "No/Yes". 2) "I'm single, lol". 3) "I'm not into guys".
oh, ideone and LWS currently both have the same version as stackedcrooked's server!
@EtiennedeMartel Love and relationships are something I value quite highly. I may have Asperger's, but I understand how to talk to women.
Actually, due to my own understanding of Asperger's, I now exhibit precisely zero signs of having it.
@ShotgunNinja You have Asperger?
18:21
@EtiennedeMartel I know, right?
Isn't that serious or something?
Uh, no. It was formerly considered a mild Autistic-spectrum disorder, but was reclassified.
It's usually coupled with high IQ, little understanding of social graces, and hyperattentiveness on a small pool of specific topics.
What is a high IQ? Like, what number?
My topics of focus include robotics, software engineering, video games, and the psychology of human entertainment.
18:24
@Crowz 130+ (let me double check that)
@ShotgunNinja I could argue that it's essentially one big subject.
@Crowz Well, a 100 was selected as the average of the US population when the scale was established... I believe "high" would be considered somewhere between 125 and 140, but that's just an educated guess.
I have an IQ of 130 and I'm a fucking idiot
@Crowz 100 is 50th percentile, 115 is 88th percentile, 130 is 95th percentile, 145 is 99.7th percentile.
> I think video games is a bigger problem than guns, because video games affect people
A US senator said that.
18:27
@Crowz I'm more adherent to the "multiple intelligences" theory, whereas conventional IQ only measures Logical and Literary intelligences, iirc.
@EtiennedeMartel which one
@MooingDuck Lamar Alexander
@ShotgunNinja yes, but another possibility is that his IQ isn't actually 130
@EtiennedeMartel another one added to the hate list
@ShotgunNinja I like that too... I'm better at spacial and linguistic intelligence than mathematical
@Crowz I combine spatial, musical/rhythmic, and arithmetic/logical intelligences all the time in my major...
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18:29
People keep telling me I have parkinson's because I have started shaking a lot :L
@ShotgunNinja Music I find incredibly difficult, personally
@Ell you're 17. That's caffeine, drugs, sleep deprivation, sugar, ADD, girls, nerves, or any number of other far more likely things
I love it... but holy shit, how do people know how to write it?
@MooingDuck "girls"
@Crowz (see: nerves)
other than that I'm not sure why I added them to the list
@Crowz why do you say that your IQ is 130? Who told you that number?
@Crowz There's a hell of a lot of theory behind writing music. Most of the time, the musicians just perform stuff that sounds good, and other people go through and codify it into sheet music or other forms.
I should know; I work for the world's largest publisher of sheet music :P
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18:32
@MooingDuck I know haha, I'm not believeing them
@MooingDuck I know haha, I'm not believeing them
But if you ever want to get a glimpse of writing music, look into jazz. It's the traditional means of entering into writing your own music, since it's all about improvisation within a constrained scale of notes.
@Crowz 132 in the Stanford-Binet is enough to join Mensa International
I also manage to get stuff done far above my means, in terms of IQ, because of the fact that I'm a fast learner.
Half of the time, I just cobble crap together, and I'm lucky enough that it works.
If it doesn't, I scratch my head for a while as to why it doesn't, then usually figure it out.
@MooingDuck took the IQ test when I was 5 I think? Maybe my IQ went down to like, 90 by now hah
18:39
Can someone explain to me why a callback set to a virtual function resolves to the correct method on dispatch? See stacked-crooked.com/view?id=5dbc9ba7ba02222243276bdc19f5baf3
@EtiennedeMartel rofl
@AndreiTita It's likely implemented as an index into the vtable.
@DeadMG I'm pretty sure I understand the mechanics but what's the rationale? Principle of least surprise?
@AndreiTita Don't recall, but PMFs are so bad, I don't pay attention.
@DeadMG Probable Maximum Food?
@AndreiTita because it makes as much sense as the other
@AndreiTita also, what if the base class was abstract? stacked-crooked.com/view?id=3964ac32c54e778d5c90f8b5fcf06bc8
18:44
@MooingDuck Not sure how that's a valid argument. If they chose the other version, then it simply wouldn't work.
@AndreiTita right. Making the function pointer resolve based on the most derived class is the only way that works every time. If it didn't dispatch, it would fail for abstract bases.
@AndreiTita Pointer to Member Function.
I suspect that it's specified so that (expr.*pmf)() is identical to expr.f(), if pmf points to f.
@MooingDuck The only reason you'd write a callback to an abstract function in the first place is precisely because it works like this. It's a circular argument.
oh wait, so it is. Good call.
@AndreiTita No, it isn't. There are lots of reasons why you might want a PMF to an abstract class's member functions.
18:47
@DeadMG not if they aren't dispatched.
wait, I got myself confused
think of it this way.
for any T, you might want to dispatch to any F.
@DeadMG Ah, so it ties into a more general mechanic.
the only way that still works if T is abstract is if the mechanism dispatches.
or more accurately, as I said previously, you would want (expr.*pmf)() to be the same as expr.f(), if pmf points to f.
@EtiennedeMartel The more I look, the funnier it gets.
@AndreiTita It's by far one of the best face swaps I've seen.
18:53
user image
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Does that mean duck religion is weird?
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A: Most C++11-Conformant Online Pastebin (Like ideone.com)?

Łukasz KusznerIdeone does! It has been just upgraded to gcc-4.7.2

Oh happy days!
@AndreiTita looks extremely shopped
@FredOverflow Didn't claim it was real.
@FredOverflow Or just crap.
But it's not the first time I see that thing. Or something similar.
@FredOverflow Indeed. In fact it looks like a meme-thing
Okay, tineye agrees it is a new thing. The meme-potential with this one is huge, though
19:04
@FredOverflow I like lws because it has Clang.
kek NSFW language
@TonyTheLion You could chose any Cannibal Corpse song for that :)
@TonyTheLion ...did you seriously just say "kek"?
19:05
@AndreiTita I did
amputate a neck
lol
@FredOverflow Ahahahahaha
@FredOverflow I saw that a long time ago haha
That's depressing. I'd rather listen to Cannibal Corpse.
19:12
This is hard to not laugh at...
@FredOverflow They are quite awesome
Evisceration Plague
good song
Cannibal Corpse are the Metallica of Death Metal ;)
I don't care for metallica personally... unless it's Dave Mustaine metallica
So... 30 years ago Metallica? :)
19:16
Indeed, Kill 'Em All was their best album imo
I liked their second album best.
It was good
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Howdy! Whydy! Wheredy! Whendy!
@Zoidberg Hello.
So we meet again, Zoidberg...
19:21
Heyo @Zoidberg
@Crowz Funny and terrible at the same time.
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Erlang y u no foreach.
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Recursion is so verbose.
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Wait I could write it myself. .-.
@FredOverflow The female vocalist from that band is awesome though
19:23
@Zoidberg You should move to Erlangen, Germany. They probably write a lot of Erlang there.
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F# has for loops. :)
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@FredOverflow I doubt that. I think it's just a coincident.
The city was named after the programming language, just like C#ville
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I could have used map if the order of evaluation weren't implementation-defined.
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There are many things named "Erlang".
19:25
@Crowz But she doesn't SING ALL THE NOTES :( She sings a simplified version.
now THIS is fucking awesome
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The mathematician Agner Krarup Erlang, a unit, the Erlang distribution, a programming language, and a Chinese god.
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The Erlang Runtime System. :^)
@Crowz Do they play live? If they do, I doubt they'll make more than 1 or 2 songs before collapsing :)
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I still haven't played with Elixir; merely installed it.
19:29
@FredOverflow yeah they do hah I really like their cover of Rebellion
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Also why do I try to learn so many languages at once.
@Zoidberg Just stick with the best language -- JAVA!
Oh, they did Rebellion? That song got me into metal. But this version starts out extremely gay.
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@Crowz FCUK JAVA
@FredOverflow but them female vocals
19:30
So Minecraft has a so called message of the day. But you can't change it without restarting the server. So it's not much of an motd.
@Zoidberg I just like to make you mad by mentioning java
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@LucDanton Noted. Will fix in Mine#.
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(MOTD is Mine#'s only feature ATM. xD)
@Crowz I can see her, but I cannot hear her :(
@FredOverflow Towards the end
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19:31
Epica are good IMO. Also have female vocals.
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And are Dutch!
man
wtb domagoj :(
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dog
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wtb?
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WHAT THE BUG
19:32
want to buy
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oh dx
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s/buy/pirate/
@AndreiTita Whaaaat the fuck
Exactly!
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19:34
lol
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@Zoidberg Looks like a great productivity enhancer. I give it three thumbs up!
@JerryCoffin you are famous, you are on the new about page.
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I should write enterprise Brainfuck interpreter.
@bamboon Oh geeze -- my head is swelling already! :-)
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19:40
Complete with UML and Javadoc and whatnot.
@FredOverflow Needs more buttons to be properly enterprisey.
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@FredOverflow WritableByteReader
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.-.
holy bloody fuck! they released CTP for VC++ Update2! - blogs.msdn.com/b/visualstudioalm/archive/2013/01/30/…
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> InternalGirlfriendPolicy
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19:42
classnamer y u "girlfriend"
@Abyx Number of new C++11 features?
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Feature* enhance_cxx(int version) {
    return new Feature[version * 2];
}
@Abyx But what does it DO?
FUUU~ it's just a MSVS thing, not VC++
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Web based Test Case Management
Code Map Debugger Integration and Responsiveness Improvements
Test Explorer group tests by Class
Web based version control Explore and Compare
Send work items in email
Email work items from backlogs
Web version control Improvements
New Team Explorer Connection dialog display multiple servers, TPCs and projects
Advanced SharePoint 2010 Load Testing
Team Foundation Server Work Item Tagging
Extended cross browser support in Coded UI Testing
Microsoft SharePoint 2013 support in Coded UI Testing
19:43
='(
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Hey it supports Git!
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Not that I have no damn idea what Team Foundation Service is.
Yeah I got it. It's not a C++ compiler update, tho.
fuck git =(
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But it has three buzzwords in its three-word-long name, so it must be good!
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19:44
@Abyx you're such a git.
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Torvalds named Git after himself, like Linux. :P
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(I'm serious.)
Wow, this must be my best answer to date:
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A: Why does this simple std::thread example not work?

rubenvbYou have to join std::threads, just like you have to join pthreads. int main( int argc, char *argv[] ) { std::thread t( doSomeWork ); t.join(); return 0; } UPDATE: This Debian bug report pointed me to the solution: add -pthread to your commandline. This is most probably a workaroun...

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> I'm an egotistical bastard, and I name all my projects after myself. First Linux, now git.
I know it doesn't compare to some of you guys' answers, but hey, gotta start somewhere ey?
19:46
@AndreiTita Oh, it was for the GGJ.
So they made this in 48 hours.
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> I like colorized diffs, but let's face it, those particular color choices will make most people decide to pick out their eyes with a fondue fork. And that's not good. Digging in your eye-sockets with a fondue fork is strictly considered to be bad for your health, and seven out of nine optometrists are dead set against the practice. So in order to avoid a lot of blind git users, please apply this patch.
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LOLZ
@rubenvb bah.
19:48
> The choice of programming language is far from the most important thing in designing a course. The Berkeley party line is that you should be able to learn a programming language (after the first time) over a weekend.
I sense a "C++ over a weekend" book coming up... source
@FredOverflow lol, where is that from?
I should code some more. It's been a while. I'm getting depressed from too much physics :P
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This weekend I'm gonna play with Erlang's distributed capabilities.
> Guido van Rossum, the inventor of Python, hates Lisp, but he was dragged kicking and screaming by users into providing [a half-assed version of] lambda in Python. Even C++, a notorious can of worms, has added lambda in its most recent version. Lambda in Java is coming in 2013. In another decade they’ll probably discover first class continuations.
:)
A couple decades more and maybe they'll finally realise Java sucks.
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19:51
I only ever use lambdas in Python with map.
Interesting. The original was probably the best game I played last year: Treasure Adventure World
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HOFs are very rare in pythonic code.
@Zoidberg lol. those colours, they are in deed étrange
@Zoidberg How do lambdas look like in Python?
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@FredOverflow in Java are objects always allocated on the heap?
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19:53
@FredOverflow lambda arg1 arg2 arg3: expression
@Zoidberg Practically speaking, yes. There is something called "escape analysis", but I think that's purely theoretical at this point.
@Zoidberg I think so.
@Zoidberg JVM takes 48 megs of stack
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@FredOverflow oh okay.
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I once read some objects were allocated on the stack as an optimization.
19:54
@BartekBanachewicz What does it do with such a huge stack? :)
@FredOverflow I don't even want to know.
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@FredOverflow preventing noobs from posting questions on SO.
@Zoidberg This optimization is VM specific and not at all guaranteed.
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Oh okay. :P
Lua VM takes a few dozen kilobytes.
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19:55
Does the standard tell anything about stack and heap?
Also, it doesn't matter that much in Java. new is just bumping a pointer.
@Zoidberg I don't think Java has a formal standard :)
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Oh. :L
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Fuckk.
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I MUST find a mistake in the exam.
There is "The Java language specification", but that is not "blessed" by ISO or whatever.
19:56
@Zoidberg Why? You need this to convince your parents?
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@sehe because it's made by a noob. :P
@Zoidberg Show me the code and I'll find an error :)
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I personally dislike the author and I need to pwn him.
@Zoidberg Well, it's okay for a noob to not make mistakes
@FredOverflow Yeah just scan it
@Zoidberg What a noble quest
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There were 40 questions and I was done in like ten minutes. xD
19:57
@Zoidberg Torvalds real name is Linux Git?
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No, his real name is Linus Trollvalds.
@Zoidberg I have a talent in spotting errors that nobody but me cares about. GIVE US THE PAPER.
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ksec
A thousand seconds? :(
@Zoidberg right
@FredOverflow The problem is, nobody but you would care about it
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19:58
It's eleven pages.
@sehe Zoidberg would.
@Zoidberg Just like the exam I have prepared. I hope it's not the same :)
@FredOverflow lol
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1. What's an instance of a class?
A. A subclass.
B. An object.
C. The `Object` class.
D. An attribute.

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