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22:00
@ThePhD Not sure if this is true, but I once heard that inhalators can be inherently bad for asthma patients. But they contain medication which makes the net effect positive.
@doug65536 sell stuff that works :)
@sehe What, Isaac Newton?
@sehe Which tweet?
@ThePhD see a logopedist about that :)
22:01
@DeadMG The Newton school shooting, nubs
wtf do I know the name of random schools in random places
I hardly even know the state it was in
@DeadMG I think it's double edged: any adult is required to own a gun too, IIRC
Ask the bin.
@DeadMG It's not random
@melak47 That, and having it not cost an arm and leg to an individual who actually wants to buy that product.
22:02
@sehe I wonder how much of them are rappers.
The majority complaint - even for normal medications - is that it always costs too much to be treated.
s/much/many?
@StackedCrooked Waaat
as you please
Well, rappers are tough. They probably require multiple shootings to get killed
22:03
@sehe Too bad it'll cost me somewhere upwards 1K USD per session. :P
@R.MartinhoFernandes rappers like to brag about shootin people
@ThePhD Well, then you'll stay impaired
@DeadMG Damn bin won't answer me.
@Raskol You could wait
@StackedCrooked Typical Rapper Lyric Summary: I got shot I got shot I got shot I got shot drugs money sex drugs money sex drugs money sex WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORES I got shot I got shot I got shot etc.
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22:05
@ThePhD Nah, it's more like niggahs, get some respect for my bitches, die, money, sit on my lap, don't give a fucking damn, shoot him
What I really want to know is, how many of those 1000 are normal people and how many of them are living a shady life.
@sehe It's quite random.
@Raskol I will simply rephrase. You just have to worry about deleting anything you create with the fancy pantsy new. Smart pointers are the simple people approach, not the fancy people approach, and make you free from that worry.
"Oh look, nation of gun-toting pscyhopaths has another mass shooting. This time it was children and they might ... nah, they won't do anything about it."
@DeadMG yeah. well, if you concede that history is random, and big news events are random. Granted (sigh)
22:06
it's not a big news event.
mass shootings happen in the US all the time and that specific one is no different to any other
@DeadMG It wasn't? You're out of touch.
@StackedCrooked Probably not very many -- but the official FBI estimates say somewhere around half are directly related to drug dealing. That's only what's really obviously related though like a shooting during a drug sale though. Independent estimates usually put it around 80-90% being drug-related.
@DeadMG cough
ok, let me put it another way
@R.MartinhoFernandes Ah I see. So you would recommend trying those before anything else?
22:07
dat pun
many of the useless news networks I follow treated it as an important event, even though it quite clearly was absolutely not an important event.
@DeadMG I get what you're trying to say. You're just doing a lousy job over simplifying and glossing over actual facts.
even if the fact that it was a bunch of children murdered actually changed anything, and it's currently looking like it won't, the location of their murder is most certainly irrelevant.
@DeadMG Well, when I say "a big news event" that is by definition an event that generated a lot of news coverage. Nothing else
@DeadMG How's your life these days?
@JerryCoffin Damn, those drugs are serious business.
22:09
@sehe Same as usual. Why?
@TonyTheLion lol
@DeadMG I thought I'd change the subject to something that might interest you more and piss you off slightly less randomly :)
@sehe And you mentioned his life?
By the way, was thecoshman here recently?
I don't need you to acknowledge the fact that everyone noticed the Newton shooting. Let's get over that :)
it's not really random at all
idiot Americans treat it as if it's some big deal or surprise
when actually, it's exactly what they want.
they voted for lax gun controls, and surprise- people who shouldn't have them, do.
22:11
@StackedCrooked Unfortunately, yes. The sad part of it is that almost all of that is simply due to the drugs being illegal. Alcohol (for one obvious comparison) is used by lots more people, but "alcohol related death" nearly always means "some asshole was driving drunk"
I have no sympathy for them whatsoever
@R.MartinhoFernandes I was kind of alluding to that ambivalence. Though the point is true: it would be less irrelevant and I didn't see much updates over the last few days
every day
Oh gawd, this room is full of hermits.
@DeadMG Well, hello! Life is like that. People get confronted with long term consequences of their own actions and then change course. It might even happen to you.
22:12
@R.MartinhoFernandes why do you think we're quite comfortable chatting in here for most of our lives?
@R.MartinhoFernandes Hey, I'm working on it. :c
@sehe I know.
@TonyTheLion You are not that young.
is the puppy arguing himself into something which he cannot possibly argue himself out of, again?
@R.MartinhoFernandes why thanks!
@TonyTheLion Nope
22:14
I'm 26, I'm not that old either.
Past the point of no return
@R.MartinhoFernandes full of what?
crap
shit
@melak47 lol.
@TonyTheLion This room has not existed for 13 years.
@sehe what was that a comment to?
22:15
@TonyTheLion being 26
@R.MartinhoFernandes Y U TAKE THINGS SO LITERAL?
oh yea, because you're a robot
@sehe lol
22:15
Isn't every age a 'point of no return?"
You can't really get younger.
@R.MartinhoFernandes at least you have a reasonable excuse. When I take something literal which shouldn't have been, I get laughed at
Unless you take unborn fetuses, prepare them into Dumplings, and eat them on a regular basis.
you monster
WTF was that.
22:16
Hey, it wasn't me. Some woman did it.
@R.MartinhoFernandes a tweet you might like on your retweet repertory
She was like 50, going on 60, but looked near 20.
@ThePhD Oh noes. He decrypted my joke :(
All from taking aborted and unborn fetuses, harvesting them, and eating them.
@sehe I didn't even get your joke.
22:17
@ThePhD Right
WTF is going on.
I suck at humor immensly
@TonyTheLion The PHD has decyphered it
I wish I had the article...
@sehe Someone has to opensource your humour. :D
@ThePhD You forgot to write it
22:17
@sehe Yes, I know. That's why I could now tell that I didn't get it in the first place.
D'uh
@ThePhD dafuq?
the cannibal room is elsewhere
@sehe Well, if I can't find it, when I get @sbi's age, I'll eat a bunch of aborted fetuses and do a write up.
Then get arrested and locked in jail or just killed on sight.
@ThePhD Well, it is open source. The genetic material is free, no attribution required, and everyone is free to modify at will (and they have for generations on end).
But I will claim it was for ~Science!~.
@TonyTheLion wait they have a cannibal room here?
@ThePhD You'd get what you most definitely deserve.
22:19
@ThePhD You could start with the latter, statistically
@Hoxieboy no, but surely there will be one somewhere in the dark corners of the internet
Damn. Hoxieboy is back? He's still on my ignored user list
@sehe I hope so.
I'd be like the Modern, Male version of Countess Bathory.
@sehe hmmm he was never on my plonk list
22:21
just letting you know I'm sound asleep
in case you were wondering :)
@sehe What was his offense?
attempts to recall why he is hated so much here
@ThePhD I forgot
@Hoxieboy you trolled?
22:21
Lol.
you ignored the rules?
You may forget, BUT THE SYSTEM ALWAYS REMEMBERS.
or we just decided you were an easy target to pick on.
@TonyTheLion I haven't ignored any rules ._.
LORD PLONK NEVER FORGETS THY FAULTS.
22:22
Caps lock, mate, release it
I was last I remember having a large discussion with sehe and then bam
Sᴍᴀʟʟ ᴄᴀᴘs ᴀʀᴇ ᴄᴏᴏʟᴇʀ.
Dunno what happened.
A lot
@Hoxieboy well at least you managed to piss off Mr. Polar Bear in some way
22:23
@TonyTheLion Is that some sort of accomplishment? X3
and that's a feat, because as a Lion I haven't been able to piss him off that much that I end up on his plonk list.
OH WHEW I thought I was wrong.
@sehe no explosive decompression, no boiling blood - so what would actually happen?
Turns out it was just a horror movie: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dumplings_%28film%29
@melak47 Air slowly leaking.
22:23
Whew.
@ThePhD facepalm
@TonyTheLion It's immaterial now. I think I may have plonked him a long with a batch of newbs (LearningC anyone?) because they were constantly injecting very poor C questions, or something like that
@R.MartinhoFernandes Hey, I did read an article. Turns out it was just referring to that.
I think I might have just remembered why lol
22:24
@ThePhD I told you. You should have realized at the word 'dumpling', that it wasn't going to be anything overly scientific
@ThePhD facepalm
m(
^that's a facepalm emote
@melak47 You suffocate. Nothing much more than that.
who watches those horrific movies?
Well, look on the bright side: I don't have to actually try it when I reach sbi's age.
22:25
@TonyTheLion bird lovers
@ThePhD s/age/cage/ (another movie)
@JerryCoffin so, you can just hold your breath, go back inside? how boring :p
also I mourn the death of my friend :(
@melak47 If you're close enough to get there in time, yes.
I secretly think sehe blocked me because I was talking too much about python... That and I was pinging him trying to get him to respond ^-^
@Hoxieboy lol
user142019
22:26
Awesome.
@JerryCoffin now space is so dull. where's the danger?
user142019
My code works!
@Zoidberg Impossible
@TonyTheLion Guess I got what I deserved huh XP
22:27
@Zoidberg there's a first time for everything I guess? :p
IMPOSSIBRU
@melak47 On earth.
Are you sure you're trying your code?
user142019
@CatPlusPlus Apparently not.
@Hoxieboy sounds like
22:27
You know, though.
@Hoxieboy What does XP have to do with it?
user142019
It's probably slow as fuck but it works.
I think I like the struct-style of template typedef-ing.
@CatPlusPlus You just raped his confidence to shreds, didn't you?!
@ThePhD I have this on record though :)
22:27
@ThePhD you do?
@CatPlusPlus Everything, seeing as how it was the operating system I used to do it ^_^
Your emoticons are terrible
@ThePhD 🍌🍌
@CatPlusPlus You just like to argue ;D;D;D
@CatPlusPlus Having a bad day?
@Hoxieboy He's the Cat! Glad you got to know him. There's not much more to know.
22:29
@ThePhD huh. what would that be?
More like a month
:(
you make me weep
@TonyTheLion He's been like this since the first day I met him on here! I'm not surprised :)
@TonyTheLion s/weep/welp
@TonyTheLion He doesn't like to argue. He likes to say his life is terrible and something.
22:29
@Hoxieboy oh right
@sehe I think he means defining a templated struct with a ::type member or something, for lack of proper template alias?
@R.MartinhoFernandes s/his life/everything
@R.MartinhoFernandes that's what I was referring to. His negativity
Reason being, because I can do this: template <typename T> struct VerifyVertex { static_assert(std::is_standard_layout<T>::value, "Fix your struct, yo."); typedef T TVertex; }; @R.MartinhoFernandes @sehe @melak47
22:30
Maybe I should switch back to Firefox
@melak47 Yeah, 🍌🍌🍌.
@R.MartinhoFernandes always boxes
damn you and your unicode
@TonyTheLion Try a bigger gun.
Especially if robot doesn't stop posting characters that DON'T HAVE GLYPHS ANYWHERE
@R.MartinhoFernandes let me guess, poo, pile of?
22:30
@R.MartinhoFernandes meh
@melak47 and he likes it?! Someone please suggest PHP to the poor guy. They got this now:
Chrome, why can't you do font fallback
What's so hard about it
Firefox can do it for crying out loud
1.) Go to main google search page 2.) type in "do a barrel roll" 3.) ??? 4.) Profit.
@Rapptz: I thought ㄷ== d, so why does google say 때 == ttae and not ddae? Is there some extra rule/exception I'm not aware of? :)
@Hoxieboy old as fuck
@R.MartinhoFernandes a dick or a banana?
@TonyTheLion Still fun ^-^
@TonyTheLion Take a guess
22:32
@CatPlusPlus That was undue. You broke my forward reference, too
Oh did I?
GOOD
@Borgleader ᄄ is tt not dd
Oh... oops xD I thought since ㄷ == d, then ᄄ == dd
oh gawd, Cat, you remind me of Dr Kelso in Scrubs
@CatPlusPlus And you should feel
22:32
or maybe Dr. Cox...
And you still going on about cocks
anyways either one could do it really
@CatPlusPlus no I'm not.
You're doing it subconsciously
Hey Guys, how does anybody feel about this macro lambda(param, body) ([&](param){body;})
22:33
Your negativity cracks me up.
It sucks
@WillemD'haeseleer Terrible.
It sucks.
Using the struct version, I can totally do verification and impose rules on my structs, which make it a lot easier when I need to do filtering on various template typenames.
@WillemD'haeseleer needless
22:34
horrendous
Because a) it's a macro
@WillemD'haeseleer Burn it, take the ashes, and burn them
And b) it's a macro
So I guess there's still some usage left for typedef after all.
And c) it's inflexible
And doesn't really fix anything
22:34
@ThePhD They are not mutually exclusive.
it's bad you should feel terrible
Unless, you can using and static_assert all at the same time?
@ThePhD Just slap a using around the struct.
22:35
More belgians. "Willem de zwijger" mean anything to you :)
<troll/>
@R.MartinhoFernandes You can using the whole struct? :O
template <typename T>
struct foo { static_assert(whatever, "blah"); using type = wtf; };

template <typename T>
using Foo = typename foo<T>::type;
@ThePhD You can using any name/typeid as far as I can tell
Oh hey I got Populist
Use whatever naming conventions you find appropriate.
@CatPlusPlus You?
22:35
@R.MartinhoFernandes but no template alias in VC++
@CatPlusPlus gratz
@seh Willem van oranje was not Belgian
@R.MartinhoFernandes Oooh. That's useful.
I got another necromancer today... :) My 7th
22:36
WTB using for VC++. :c
@melak47 How's that relevant? He was saying he preferred the long winded ones to the alias ones. I told him he can do both.
@WillemD'haeseleer I never suggested that
@R.MartinhoFernandes maybe because he can't use using :p
In that case i do not completely understand the humor, but that's fine
Maybe he should switch compilers
@melak47 Oh well.
There was a Murkdown bug where this broke horribly
@R.MartinhoFernandes Isn't it compiler-dependent if the static_assert fires or not even if the template is not instantiated?
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Q: Markdown bug: [`foo`](url) produces wrong output in comments

Cat Plus Plus[`foo`](http://example.com) Should produce: foo. This works in questions and answers, but inside comments, it produces this instead: codefoo/code — test comment here.

See, you can do that thanks to me
@AndreiTita It is tested always if it has no dependencies on template parameters. Upon instantiation otherwise.
22:38
Hilariously:
> Dat artikel ier is nog moa e klêen begun. Ge zyt g'inviteerd vôor ip bewerkn te klikkn vo mêer encyclopedische kennisse toe te voegn.
@CatPlusPlus Thanks
@sehe Yes, this is very hilarious
using using = using;
Mmh, I'm going to bring this up just to see what happens... Who has a problem with hobbyist programmers?
22:39
@sehe Flemish much?
@CatPlusPlus It's in West-Vlams... /cc @StackedCrooked @TonyTheLion @WillemD'haeseleer
@TonyTheLion oh my. did you know it existed?
@sehe Right
@melak47 throw throw throw throw
@sehe kek
cc @DeadMG
@sehe I can see we are evolving in the direction of a proper joke
user142019
22:39
I'm porting Express.js to C#.
@sehe That's practically unreadable to me.
@CatPlusPlus You know, that's a very outlandish dialect that has no official written form, AFAICT. ICBWT and I'm prepared to get told in 6, 5, 4, 3...
@ScottW I've been reading a lot lately that apparently professional programmers hate hobbyist programmers, despite the fact that most professional programmers program as their hobby ._. It makes no sense
@CatPlusPlus He is going to be haunted forever by that.
@StackedCrooked Looks more like West-Flemish to me
22:40
heh
@sehe I still have no idea what that is about, fyi
hi puppy
nothing wrong with making a few mistakes in your very first grammar.
But that was hilarious.
22:41
true
We're still going to laugh forever
@CatPlusPlus Forget it. You'd think it's terrible. Like anything else. Come and talk on mumble, instead
mwuahhahahahaha
@sehe oh good idea
> WOAROM KYK GY TON NOA YZEGEM VULLE OLLANDER
22:42
@StackedCrooked ahahah
@ScottW Exactly, meaning; Why the big problem? Apparently when non-professional hobbyist programmers ask professional programmers questions on proper programming practices, they get angry >:P I think why
@TonyTheLion Indeed. (I'm from Oostkamp originally :))
@StackedCrooked Is he saying "I got shot I got shot I got shot I got shot drugs money sex drugs money sex drugs money sex WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORES I got shot I got shot I got shot" in West-Flemish?
@StackedCrooked ah right
@R.MartinhoFernandes no
skiet in nen kolere
lol
there is nothing wrong with Izegem really
22:43
@R.MartinhoFernandes It's more like: "You are stupid and we are cool."
That's funny, it looks like some bizarre combo of russian and german
kogels zin gin brol
@WillemD'haeseleer Nothing?
OMG, so much gibberish in the chat.
what is woarom kyk?
22:44
they make shoes and floor brushes i believe
[11:44 PM] TonyTheLion: I can undeafen
[11:44 PM] TonyTheLion is now unmuted.
@R.MartinhoFernandes I think I may be able to lure them to mumble (mostly?)
@Hoxieboy "Why look" (I think)
TIL if you use unnamed template arguments the error messages look even more shit
@WillemD'haeseleer let's move the gibberish to mumble: loungecpp.sehe.nl (if you're interested)
I noticed woarom looked slightly like the german warum, which is why, and kyk looked like the russian kak which is basically how
Funny
22:47
@ScottW surely they mean must, not can't, right?
This one was for you, robot
@ScottW You haven't seen much
@ScottW No, shrink says it's best to put it behind me
@sehe loungecpp.sehe.nl does not appear to be a website, or i'm missing the point
@WillemD'haeseleer it's a mumble voice chat server
@ScottW implement a better password system while you are in control :p
22:49
People would have to start talking, though
@melak47 better password === no password
@sehe ===? what is this, PHP?
@melak47 no. it's just characters, dude
@sehe TOO MUCH PRESSURE
@CatPlusPlus GET YOUR ASS IN HERE YOU SILLY CAT
20 mins ago, by Cat Plus Plus
GOOD
22:53
but...talking, that's like, social stuff
DON'T YELL AT ME
I HAVE A THING, WITH MICROPHONES
Ýes CAT
@R.MartinhoFernandes The question I was trying to ask you earlier, much better suited for SO stackoverflow.com/questions/14419738/…
ignore your 'thing" and come anyways
I'LL GET ALCOHOL
Ell
Ell
22:54
Yes
@TonyTheLion he had a thing with his microphone, and now they don't talk anymore
2
lol
dat's a thing
@CatPlusPlus EXCELLENT PLAN
@melak47 dat pun
22:56
Do you think brandy can mix with tea
Or orange juice
Get whiskey and have it pure
I heard it mixes just fine with your own bloodstream.
What am I a vampire what kind of drink is that
user142019
Mono y u no async.
22:58
I don't think vampires drink their own blood, do they?
You could put some blood in your alcohol.
@Zoidberg mumble?
@CatPlusPlus Erm. You just drink it without anything and your body takes care of the mixing.
user142019
@TonyTheLion whokay.

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