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Ell
12:03 AM
Grrr
 
@Ell Grrr
 
Xeo
GrrBrr
 
Imma sleep. How's that
 
man
why does nothing happen at midnight on a Sunday
 
Because Sunday is the 2nd worse day of the week
 
12:13 AM
also
today I managed to confirm that there is something in my throat
 
Xeo
Gotta love chemistry.
@DeadMG A tongue?
 
nah
some strange mass on one side
 
What is with that guy's voice?
 
Xeo
@Rapptz It seems to be his real voice.
 
Interesting.
@DeadMG What exactly was it?
"strange mass on one side" isn't very descriptive.
 
12:19 AM
I dunno
it's pinkish and looks much like the rest
 
Ell
Hmm. Maybe just an infection?
 
Tonsil infection?
 
tonsil is the thing that hangs down, right?
 
No
It's on the side of your mouth
 
hm
maybe
 
Ell
12:22 AM
Uvula hangs down
Have 'em removed
 
but if it were an infection, wouldn't I notice something other than the fact that it's significantly larger than it's mirror?
 
Ell
Not sure really, maybe you will start to feel it soon?
You might have spotted it earlier?
 
eh
 
If it's a new infection then it'll get worse more than likely. The most common cause of tonsillitis is streptococcal infection anyway and that can get pretty bad.
They're usually removed before it gets that bad though.
 
I think it's been there for a while
sometimes it can feel like it's pushing against the tongue
 
12:25 AM
Only other guess I can think of is peritonsillar abscess
 
Ell
Maybe its a benign growth
 
Those are usually only on one side.
 
@sehe Why the fuck are you replying to a message that is nearly seven weeks old_
 
hmm
I don't think so
it's not painful, and the Wiki page implies that peritonsillar abscess is at least noticably painful
 
Hm..
Is it around that region though?
 
12:29 AM
yep
 
Playing SimCity 4 makes me really excited about the next one.
 
but
 
@EtiennedeMartel The one people are boycotting?
 
the images on Wiki for tonsillitis and peritonsillar abscess both show the enlarged tonsils connect to the roof of the throat
which I definitely don't have
 
Ell
Best thing To do is see a doctor
 
12:31 AM
@Rapptz Yeah, that "always online" thing is gonna be a slight pain.
 
Ell
But not yet. Wait until the norrovirus outbreak has gone :L
 
But I'm sure it'll turn out all right.
 
The images on the wiki page always show severe cases
 
@EtiennedeMartel I'm surprised they went with... I mean seeing how well it went with D3
 
oh well
 
12:32 AM
Those images seem to be getting close to the adenoid, when that usually isn't really the case.
 
I should see a doctor (again) about my stomach anyway
 
Yeah your mysterious stomach pain I still can't figure out.
 
Ell
Hmm mysterious stomach pains eh?
I prescribe a homeopathic solution of java, one part to ten million
 
lol
actually kind of irritated me about an hour ago
briefest bout of stomach pain I've ever experienced
sick as a dog for about two minutes
 
I usually get stomach pain after I eat and I was diagnosed with high helicobacter pylori and they made me take medication for it but it never went away.
 
Ell
12:36 AM
Speaking of dogs I'm rather hungry
 
The pain isn't so bad, it's usually the same problem you have with it. The nausea etc.
 
eh
 
Ell
I'm pretty healthy I think
 
what's beginning to concern me more is my kidneys
 
Ell
kidney stones?
 
12:38 AM
nah
 
@Ell :( I hope to never get those
 
I said that, previously, sometimes in the morning (often also early morning) I get nasty stomach pain until I go piss
 
Ell
Me too
 
but sometimes in the last couple of weeks, it's been nastier, and definitely specific to my poor kidneys
 
You said you don't drink right?
 
Ell
12:39 AM
Hmm. Are you sure that's kidneys? Maybe bladder?
 
@Ell It's difficult to miss two distinct spots on the lower back.
as there are few internal organs where I have two of them
@Rapptz Right. I have like, a couple of bottles of beer in a night, about once every two weeks- if that.
 
You do drink a lot of water right?
I'm kind of assuming very acidic urine.
 
sometimes
sometimes not
 
Ell
Thats odd. I wonder what would cause that o.o by the time you're weeing it out or are about to its already gone throigh your kidneys?
 
Xeo
@sehe Watching this, that guy kinda seems to want static typing, since his ProTip #2 is about keeping an eye out for what exactly you're dealing with.
 
12:41 AM
usually, the pain wakes me up
then I go piss to try to relieve it
then by the time I'm back in my bed, it's almost entirely gone, if not completely
 
Hm that doesn't seem like a Kidney problem to me
 
yeah
except when it's accompanied by nasty pain in said kidneys
 
So it's definitely in the sympathetic nervous system.
 
that means little to me
 
What's your blood pressure like?
 
12:45 AM
no idea
 
Ell
How about some hereditary gene thing?
 
but I weigh far more than I should, so being higher wouldn't be a surprise
 
Ell
How about a UTI
 
How about "see a doctor" :)
 
as for hereditary, my mother once spoke of my father having a stomach condition (unspecified) which was a couple months and then just disappeared
but that's about it
@melak47 I tried that. He wasn't helpful.
told me "Take antacids" for four months.
 
12:48 AM
his train of thought is different from mine
lol
 
well, I was like
I can already tell you that excess stomach acid is really not the cause
 
if your blood pressure is high, then that means your renin levels on your kidneys are suffering which affects your sympathetic nervous system.
which links back to the pain of your urination problem because the sympathetic nervous system is part of the muscle destrusor, which in turn controls the muscles for urinating.
but that's just my guess if anything
 
shouldn't that imply that actually urinating is painful?
 
I assume it was for its duration.
 
no
 
12:51 AM
Ah.. darn.
 
no, urinating is completely and totally normal, except it also has magical pain relief properties
sometimes
 
then that means it's just a regulation of acidity because your urine is too acidic.
try drinking more water
 
hm
 
I'm unsure why that links back to your stomach though.
 
is just what I was thinking
 
Ell
12:54 AM
Rapptz, are you studying medicine?
 
It depends on what you mean as studying medicine. :P
 
lol
 
I work at a hospital and my job is to train/evaluate medical students at their clerkships and doing medical research when I'm not doing that.
Oh hey, I passed 10,000 messages here. Cool.
 
gz
 
Ell
So your pretty clued up on health? :P
 
12:58 AM
I wouldn't say yes to that question
whenever you reveal that you're a professional in X area, people will ask you for help in X area for the rest of time.
 
Yeah that happened with all my friends and even my ex-girlfriend but I don't mind it. I have a natural curiosity for it.
 
well
let me tell you what I have a natural curiosity for
how long it's going to take me to get to sleep tonight
must find out answer right now!
 
Oh what type of antacids do you take?
 
"Remember not to sell this item" "Remember not to sell this item" Sells item anyway "Dammit"
I'm bad
2
 
@CatPlusPlus Shit happens.
I wonder if Anno 2070 is worth it.
It's 20$ on Steam.
 
1:13 AM
@EtiennedeMartel I've been wondering too but seeing how many games I have left to play, I'll save myself the money.
 
Life is tough.
 
I got Chilvary instead
It was like 13$
 
Buy M&B if you don't have it
Single version is like 3€
First roguelike I've been alive for 4 hours
Said then proceeded to swim and possibly drown in next 10 minutes
 
1:39 AM
@CatPlusPlus Wut?à
 
@EtiennedeMartel Anno 2070 is good, gave me some good 50 hours of gameplay; I find it fun doing all the resource management, and making sure all the islands are producing goods at maximum efficiency; The only part that I find annoying is that sometimes, when the empire is big, and forget about a ship that is trading too much, you basically lose all your money in 5 minutes.
 
Mount&Blade
 
@Nican Hmm. I think I'll give it a try.
 
@CatPlusPlus I got you a scratching pole that is a replica of my neck. I hope you enjoy. No giraffes was harmed in the making.
DVDs still has this silly region stuff on them, right?
 
 
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3:44 AM
This room is dead... we have to do something!
Name one person who doesn't know C.
 
Borgleader
 
Damnit.... Why am I the only one who can't manage to get stars by mentioning that Mysticial doesn't know C.
 
Is overloading operator! for factorials stupid?
I always thought it'd be neat, especially since it's a number class..
 
!5 does not seem to make much sense.
It would be "5!"
 
it can if you believe in yourself
I actually considered that too.. :(
so I wanted to say "Hey!, what about UDLs!" but that failed too lol
apparently _! isn't very valid
 
3:54 AM
I'm on the fence about this. It makes sense because it's the same symbol as in math, but on the other hand it doesn't because most people will expect it to mean "not".
Scott Meyer's preaches that you should do as the ints do so I'll recommend that.
 
Well I'm trying to figure out how to do dividing and modulus
 
Or if you are an scheme kind of person, it means "bang".
 
apparently that's harder than multiplying and factorials.
maybe Modulus is easier than Dividing since I don't have to deal with floating types
 
4:46 AM
@Borgleader Mysticial doesn’t know C. Now you are not alone. You’re welcome! \o/
 
5:05 AM
prepare yourselves!
 
For what...
The apocalypse was 2 days ago
 
NO. WORSE.
Christmas!
 
For some that is the apocalypse.. every f'ing year.
 
How is christmas the apocalypse
 
Apocalypse literally translates to "unveiling", and we open presents on Christmas.
COINCIDENCE?
I think not!
 
5:11 AM
I think you're drunk
or paranoid
 
I always thought he was 13
 
Now you know
 
I thought he was a she...
 
I am a she
... at heart <3
 
I knew it... women on the internet is a myth
 
5:13 AM
They're like the assassins in Arkham City
Illusive, hidden... tales are told of their existence.
 
@Rapptz omg WTF... I remember listening to the original when I was in high school. But this... this is... weird
 
kawaii as fuck.
Is the original that old?
I seriously am baffled at handling modulus..
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwXeN2FsE7w
If I did my research right, 8 years (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tipsy_%28J-Kwon_song%29)
 
I even added bitshifting
dang.
How old are you? 30? :D
though actual math would put you at 19 to 23
 
5:20 AM
@Rapptz 23
You nailed it
 
:P
Do you have an idea of how to do modulus with BigInteger?
I could try a half ass method but I don't think it'll work that well
 
Uh... nope sorry
Wait.. isn't BigInteger a java class?
 
I made one in C++.
 
Ahhh ok
 
it's like 7x faster than the Java version
but lol Java
I have successfully implemented Modulus by copy pasting Multiplication and I have no idea how
that just boggled my mind
yay a bug. I guess Im not crazy afterall.
 
 
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7:37 AM
Seriously guys? empty room?
 
yeah, pretty much..
 
Sadly yes
I tried reviving it but was unsuccessful
 
8:00 AM
You were making C jokes..
 
But people like those... They're on the starboard all the time
 
Jokes about C? Or jokes about me? Or wait... that rhymes... no it can't be!
8
 
@emartel is in the house
 
evening sirs!
@Borgleader how's it going?
 
good good
you?
 
8:15 AM
very good! my gf is doing a night shift so I can code all night :D hahah
 
hehehe cool
what are you working on?
 
right now I'm just messing with integrating Python in C++... but I'd like to make a 2D game engine (very simple) that allows procedural level design
 
Ahhh nice
 
I'm starting from a simple engine I wrote like 9 years ago hehe
I'd really like to be able to create a Castlevania style side scroller
we'll see
 
Castlevania was procedurally generated?
 
8:20 AM
oh no, but I'm not a LD and I've been intrigued with procedural maps since Diablo 1
 
Oh I see
 
the hardest part will be to handle like "progression" where you need upgrade X to go through section Y (for example, double jump or fly, etc...)
I think using a planner it will be possible building a complex level that allows these kind of rules
 
8:44 AM
Hi everybody
Is it possible to write constructor of anonymous struct in c++?
 
hello sir
I don't think so, but I'll leave others to answer :)
 
define "anonymous struct"
 
typedef union { // 3+1 homogeneous vector
double data[4];
struct { double x, y, z, h };
} VECTOR3H;
I need to add a constructor in this struct to make h=1 by default
 
that's very C-like
you can add values to a struct by default anyway can't you?
 
usual struct can do this:
struct v {
v(): h(1);
double x,y,z,h;
}
 
8:48 AM
I know what a struct is what I'm saying is you can add a default value now
Uh lemme give sample code sec
 
I'm novice in C++. I've found that if I want to add default values I should use constructors of struct. But they require the name of struct
 
@Innuendo You mean like this? I'm pretty sure you could do it anonymously, couldn't you?
 
well, I haven't played with that kind of code in a while, but your anonymous struct isn't constructed if I'm not mistaken, it's only there to provide an alternate layout through the union
 
just write h=1
like a class defenition? I'll try
typedef union { // 3+1 homogeneous vector
	double data[4];
	struct {
		double x, y, z;
		int h=1;
	};
} VECTOR3H;
 
well other than forgetting a semicolon yeah
 
8:53 AM
i seriously doubt this will work...
also you changed the type of h to int
dont you memset data to 0 at some point?
 
@emartel I'm unsure if it will too.
 
yeah, semicolon i've corrected
helpers.h(11) : error C2864: '<unnamed-tag>::h' : only static const integral data members can be initialized within a class
 
@Innuendo how do you initialize your data anyway?
do you memzero it?
 
Y U typedef union ?
 
I've just included this header file
 
8:55 AM
yeah but if you don't initialize your members your data will contain garbage
 
Only error I get is main.cpp:6:2: error: ISO C++ prohibits anonymous structs [-pedantic]
:P
 
This is modified code from Orbiter Simulation SDK. There are only 3-vectors, but I need 3+1 (homogeneous) vectors. I took that code (for 3-vectors) and added parameter h
h should be double too, because data[4] is double
 
then how do they initialize their vectors? are they calling memzero (or memset) on newly created VECTOR3 objects?
 
No, I saw just such examples: VECTOR3 v; v.x = 1;
 
ok, doing this you need to set the value of each members, otherwise your vector will contain garbage
 
8:58 AM
lol
Why is it anonymous anyway? This wouldn't compile with -pedantic
 
yes. Here also is helper function in API:
inline VECTOR3 _V(double x, double y, double z)
{
	VECTOR3 vec = {x,y,z}; return vec;
}
 
it's anonymous because it has no purpose outside of the union
 
to not do such thing as: VECTOR3 v; v.x = x; v.y = y; v.z = z;
 
then create _VH that does VECTORH vec = {x, y, z, 1}; return vec;
 
hm! great! ;))
 
9:01 AM
alright, I need to go wrap some gifts, I'll close the chat, later guys :)
 
see ya. Thank you
Oh, it's Christmas )))
When do you celebrate it? Today evening or tomorrow morning?
 
back to working on BigInteger
 
9:17 AM
stupid bin collection service
you pay for tag, put tag on bin, leave bin out... WHY Y U NO COLLECT?!
@Innuendo 25th is the day
 
And you celebrate it the whole day of 25th?
 
yes... but it's not so much about the religious side of things any more
and really, it's more a season then just a single day
 
Cool. We, Russian don't know anything about Christhmas. We celebrate only New Year 31 December.
Usually 31st December is work day... You are at work till 19 PM, then prepare for celebration and 00:00 (theoretically it's 1st January we begin to celebrate)
 
yeah, I work with a Russian chap
 
Yes, here in Russia is a season too. Holidays are till 7-9 January. 6th of January is orthodox Christmas, but it usually celebrated only by religious people
 
9:24 AM
He said there was the 6th Jan thingy :P
 
But when I live in Moldova (it ex USSR too) - they don't have such long holidays. 2nd or 3rd of January - is the first day of work ;)
 
yeah, we are usually off from just before, so like this yeah from Saturday, right through to the 2nd. The first is a bank holiday in UK and Ireland... and most of Europe I think
 
Russian need holidays only to have reason to drink vodka)
 
In Russia, Holidays have you
 
)))
I don't drink at all)
 
9:27 AM
@Xeo dat ain't no friggin' chemistry. That's pure quantum mechanics! Physics ftw!
 
when I'm on some kind of party everybody is asking me long why i'm not drinking. They think if you don't drink - you 're 1) sick 2) freak ;)
 
I didn't know Russians needed a reason to drink vodka.
 
If you drink without reason, it's alcoholism ;)
that's why if you open religious calendar - there is a holiday almost every day )))
 
Exactly what I thought :P
 
10:26 AM
@Innuendo 'you 're 1) sick 2) freak' - not if you can drive! A partygoer who can drive is like gold-dust here.
 
10:44 AM
;)
such drivers are used
 
11:22 AM
woo, christmas
 
Xeo
11:34 AM
Woo, uninteresting. :)
 
it's Monday.
 
Ell
Russians dont have Christmas?
 
@Ell not Catholic Christmas
"our" Christmas is at 7 January
(or maybe 6 Jan., dunno)
 
Ell
Isn't that the epiphany?
Not epiphany. What's it called, when the magi arrived?
 
11:49 AM
lolwut?
 
"three kings"
literally translated from dutch.
 
three wise men
 
nope. We call them kings.
 
well, I believe if you get drunk, something can arrive
 
lol
 
user142019
12:18 PM
I never celebrate Christmas anyway.
 
user142019
I hate Christmas.
 
Ell
hmm or is it the epiphany?
@Zoidberg'-- bah humbug!
hello there pubby
 
hello friend
 
user142019
hello there pubby
 
hello friend
 
user142019
12:25 PM
Foreign.Erlang looks interesting. It lets me write Erlang nodes in Haskell.
 
user142019
That is heaven.
 
user142019
Godlike.
 
user1182183
if(0.0f < pGameInterface->GetFPS() < 32000.0f)
warning C4804: '<' : unsafe use of type 'bool' in operation

Is this MS having something against my coding or C++ standard doesn't "allow" this?
 
user142019
That expressions is always true.
 
user1182183
no
 
user142019
12:34 PM
Yes.
 
user142019
0.0f < pGameInterface->GetFPS() yields a Boolean, which is either true or false. This Boolean is then cast to a number, 0 or 1 which is compared to 32000.0f, which is always true.
 
user1182183
oh well in c++ yes.. hm
 
user1182183
oh
 
user1182183
okay :F
 
user142019
C++ isn't Python.
 
Ell
12:34 PM
you need to put the && in there
if(0.0f < pGameInterface->GetFPS() && pGameInterface->GetFPS() < 32000.0f)
 
user142019
auto fps = pGameInterface->GetFPS();
if (0.0f < fps && fps < 32000.0f) { ... }
 
user1182183
ye, thanks :)
 
user142019
@Ell You call the GetFPS() function twice, and that function may have side-effects. You don't want that. :P
 
user142019
(Unless GetFPS has no side-effects, in which case what you're doing is safe and fine.)
 
user1182183
@Zoidberg'-- well I don't know that so just in case to be safe I'll call it once, however it just returns a value with the current frames per seconds, what side effects could that have xD
 
user142019
12:38 PM
If it measures the time, it has side-effects.
 
user142019
The time may be different between multiple calls to the function.
 
user1182183
@Zoidberg'-- yeah, meh, I call it every frame and it works
 
user142019
 
Ell
ahh yes my bad
also can you really do that in python?
1 < var < 10 ?
 
user142019
You can do that in Python and CoffeeScript.
 
user142019
12:48 PM
I don't know of any other languages that support it without terrible operator overloading.
 
Ell
Is it just a hard coded thing?
Or does it return some ComparisonResult
 
user142019
It's just part of the language.
 
Ell
Which can then be compared or alternatively cast to a book
Oh Okay
also *bool
 
user142019
*bool?
 
user142019
Do you mean operator bool()?
 
Ell
12:50 PM
yeah
I actually meant to say
*bool
as in the correction asterisk
 
user142019
oh :P
 
user142019
I thought you meant dereferencing, but you cannot dereference a type.
 
Ell
My bad again, I'm aweful at communication :L
 
user142019
That's because you're a programmer, like all of us. :P
 
Ell
I thought programmers had to be good communicators ? In teams n whatnot
 
user142019
12:53 PM
> Implying I'm serious.
 
Ell
Heh ooops
 
Is it normal practice to use lot of inline functions in a header file?
 

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