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02:00
@chris Holy crap.
I think that every parent lives through a night like this at least once.
whew...
@sbi That's good to know.
@StackedCrooked multiplied by the number of kids?
@chris Whoa
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02:00
@StackedCrooked For every kid. Once per decade.
@Mysticial Yes :)
@sbi at least she's alright
I've made sure that I don't put my parents in that situation.
My phone is always on, 24/7.
@sbi I can believe that. I've had a company try to call me 4 times and I never received any of those calls. (At least they've claimed they called me 4 times)
@sbi Well... hurry up and get some sleep so you can get the presents.
02:02
The feeling of relief must make you feel high right now.
@chris nice...
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@Insilico Calling is a completely different matter. Phone vendors explicitly say that there is no guarantee a text message will ever be delivered. I have experienced that before, but not with such bad timing.
@Mysticial Apparently the phone wasn't off as in "no electrical power" off but off as in "it's in airplane mode".
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@Mysticial What @Stacked said. I don't feel like sleeping now.
if you have the shop gift wrap stuff...do they wrap the item, or the shipping box?
02:03
@sbi Does the phone tell the user if such a text message cannot be delivered?
I don't want the bill inside the gift wrapped package :p
@Insilico I think that does happen..sometimes..hours later
@chris Screening that question. I won't be surprised if a mod wipes the comments.
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@Insilico Nope. It's just silently dropped. Usually that's when a lot of messages are sent, which is unlikely to have happened on a Thursday night.
They'll the mod will probably just get deleted instead.
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@sbi That's good to hear.
02:05
@Mysticial Already took an SS :)
@sbi That's the first time I've heard UDP implemented at the human level.
I favorited it as well.
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@chris You lose. Underscores are required if you're not a standard library implementer.
@Rapptz What do you use personally to take screenshots that require multiple monitors to look at correctly?
@Mysticial I'll be sure to keep you in mind if I need an accounting package written.
lol
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02:07
@Insilico Snip tool, I guess?
I only have one monitor
@Xeo, I mentioned that in the comment. It'd work if GCC was less conforming than it is.
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Or just have your monitor set up vertically.
It doesn't even let me use char *main()
Nah I use an extension to take screenshots of pages
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02:07
@chris Oh, that's the way you meant it.
If I stacked all my monitors and turned them sideways, I can get a pretty big screenie
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Well, thanks guys for being with me in such a bad time. It was good to be poked with your questions all the time. Left me no time to worry much.
@Mysticial Insert stackoverflow pun here
I felt worried as well. I couldn't help but ask questions.
@sbi, It's good things got better. I kind of missed the harsh part.
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02:09
I always feel vexed when I read stuff about bad stuff happening to kids out there, so I couldn't help but worry.
haha, my meta question is already at +20.
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And no answer in sight.
It's kinda impossible not to worry.
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I was checking if it was maybe two different users, but it's exactly the same.
@Mysticial, Oh? Which one is this?
02:09
> We recently get big contract for an accountants program and we need to count "debits" and "credits" (from doc).
@Mysticial I didn't even know there was a duplicate question filter in place.
^ Lol. This just cracks me up.
@chris Front page of meta. Big +20 no answers.
@StackedCrooked I'm actually not all that worried about the not knowing the domain knowledge part, since programmers aren't expected to know everything. The code however, is atrocious.
@Insilico It's a work of art.
02:11
@Mysticial I lost it at char* main(). Holy crap.
They way he puts quotes around debit and credit makes it seem like those are really foreign concepts to him.
@Mysticial, Good question. Either there will be some specific software-related answer, or the planets aligned perfectly I guess.
@StackedCrooked You would think the first thing one does when encountering jargon is to look it up on Wikipedia first.
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A: The moderators have decided to have a little yuletide fun, join us will you?

balpha T'was the night before Christmas, when on all the sites Not a shitstorm was blowing, not even small fights. Upvotes were cast, and each newbie was greeted With a nice and warm "Welcome!" so they would feel well-treated. And then, in a twinkling, I noticed in chat, A onebox appeari...

Oh, it's all poems and songs. Sorry, no point to post them all here.
@Insilico, Or take a basic accounting course. I was skeptical, but I learned so much useful information when I took my first one.
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02:16
A text message dropped by your phone vendor can bring all kinds of bad excitement to your life. Fortunately, the police sorted it all out.
@sbi Oh goodie everything turned out well
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Yeah. I am still a bit shaky, though.
Understandable considering the circumstances
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Q: can somebodie tell me whats wrong with my progarm?

Mayank Gulati#include <stdio.h> int main() { print("i luv dat weed") } Doesnt compile... i've tried everythng. Thanks in advance!!

02:21
It got an upvote too..
wth? Someone upvoted?
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I think dat weed is preventing you from reading, understanding, and passing along error message text. — Jonathan Wood 1 min ago
printf("i should smoke less weed"); — PeterJ 2 mins ago
Another upvote?
They're not from the review queue though.
@Mysticial Now it has 3 upvotes. O_O
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02:24
@CatPlusPlus Actually, that would be the point.
Who wants to be with a misanthropic cat?
@Mysticial They are from weed lovers, of course!
A lot of people love weed.
@Jerry's state even voted to legalize it. :)
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@FredOverflow Lots of different ones, of course.
@CatPlusPlus Berlin is just a little over your country's border.
@Mysticial What's with the horrible questions, lol
I dunno...
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02:28
@sbi Heh, business as usual now, catching up on the transcript? :)
Hm, I gotta go in an hour.
And I didn't sleep.
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@Xeo I'm afraid I couldn't sleep now if my life depended on it. I'm sure I'll fall off this chair in 30mins, but right now...
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Understandable.
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@R.MartinhoFernandes 1Base/Streams/StreamsWriteHex.h
Can someone write this program for me? I will pay through paypal if it gets done within an hour or two — delgadough 3 hours ago
@Mysticial So just charge 5 times the market rate for such a program. Like $100,000 or something. :-P
02:31
@Mysticial lol
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@Mysticial Voted to delete.
This review queue can be great sometimes. Lots of entertainment.
(I did pull that number out of my rear end. I don't know if $100,000 is even appropriate lol)
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@R.MartinhoFernandes I promised my 13yo to watch the movie with him about a year ago, but I said it would be in English, so there's no reason you couldn't come with us. I'll have small kids to take care of until Friday, Dec, 20th, though, which leaves only a small window of opportunity for him and me to sneak this in before xmas.
@Mysticial The "Questions with extreme votes" section of the 10k tools is also lots of fun. :-)
02:34
@Insilico Yep. :)
Especially the two -7 answers today. :)
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@FredOverflow It's Oxff point, really.
Every once in a while, you'll see a title show up in all of the lists.
1. Highest Voted Question
2. Highest Voted Answer
3. Lowest Voted Answer
4. Most Commented
5. Most Viewed
^^ is typical of something that goes viral.
Since they typically come with a few bad answers to fill the Lowest Voted slot.
I like the number of rep I currently have.
1445 is cool too.. I guess
02:37
@sbi I thought you wanted to catch a few hours of sleep :)
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@melak47 I do have a few liters of adrenaline to wash out of my blood first.
@Rapptz 1445 is cool because I sense a pattern that I can't explain.
Yeah same here.
@Mysticial Cant you upvote your own questions?
02:38
@Borgleader I'm pretty sure you can't.
@Borgleader nope
You can't even downvote yourself either.
I've tried. (albeit accidentally)
Ah, that would've explained a lot of upvotes on shitty questions...
I've tried to downvote myself.
On purpose.
@chris Talk about low self-esteem.
I'm not sure how, but only half my question got posted once when I was new. It was a terrible question at that point.
02:39
@StackedCrooked I think you mean masochism
I need to figure out how to turn my current reptuation of 25,298 into something nicer like 25,300. lol
It somehow survived with like 0 or 1 downvotes
@Insilico, Accept something?
@chris I don't remember asking any questions lately
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@R.MartinhoFernandes Actually I'm going back way more than mere days. Decades, really.
Or downvote three people.
Or 8...
How is it possible not to ask any questions?
02:41
@Insilico Do you have any -1s to delete?
@Mysticial Probably from way back. I dunno.
There's a downvotes section in your profile.
This has probably been asked before but I can't search for it because it's about operators. Maybe you guys know where to look (if it hasn't ill gladly post the question so you can get rep). Why are we allowed to overload operators like &&, ||, ... since afaik the order of execution or should i say in which you'll get the operands is not guaranteed stable.
@Borgleader You're allowed but doing so is highly discouraged.
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Q: Credential Provider Filter - Filtering the Default Credential Tiles

toneinaconei have successfully created a credential provider ... but my problem now is on filtering the default tiles that appear during log on .... Did some research and most of them lead me to a failure for now .... Does anybody can help me with this issue " Filtering the default MS credential provider " ...

^^ Amazed that has no votes on it.
There should be a badge for that.
02:44
@Mysticial I have two. I've gotten rid of them because both questions have accepted answers but I don't see the rep changing.
"Asked horrible question with no votes."
It's probably cached.
@Insilico Give it few minutes for the automatic rep-recalc.
A badge for the most number of ellipses.
Actually, it wasn't too bad of a question.
I didn't realize there was a sample for that.
02:44
@MarkGarcia I know we're allowed. That's the point of the question. Why are we since were pretty much guaranteed to shoot ourselves in the foot.
And I was looking all over the place for information on those a while back.
Is there a rep cost to downvoting questions?
@Insilico no
@Insilico Intentionally so that it's easier to purge bad questions from the system.
And to feed the question ban.
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@DeadMG From that single statement of yours I can tell you have never ever, not even for 10mins, stood in front of the bonobos in a zoo. Because if you had, you'd have known that they are sex maniacs.
For example, when you feed chimps, they make a fuss, yell at each other, fight a bit, the strong ones chase away the weaker ones, eat what they want, and hand out whatever is left to those who beg nicest. When you feed bonobos, they start out with the same fuss, but instead of fighting, they have sex until all disputes are solved.
When an adult bonobo discomforts a bonobo child, and the child's mother raises her eyebrows, the adult hastily has sex with the child, to sooth her.
It's not too good on my friend's logon screen, but how's this: i.sstatic.net/Zr5xo.png
02:50
@sbi wut
We're planning to surprise our teacher when he turns on the computer.
@sbi wtf did i just read
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You guys do know that sex doesn't have to be penetrating, don't you?
Unfortunately most people don't
That penetrated my knowledge of animals.
02:52
You think that's weird? There's a lot of weirder stuff in nature.
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Bonobos do it wildly mixed. Male, female, adults, youth, any combination is fine for them. And since they solve all their conflicts through sex (where chimps use violence), they do it all the time.
It's why the bonobo females tend to dominate the males in term of social status.
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@DeadMG I don't that's true. IIRC, bonobo females are swollen (grossly, BTW) throughout most of their cycle, but aren't fertile all of the time. That's different from chimps. The result of that is that male bonobos cannot count with the same certainty on them being the father of a certain child just because they had sex with its mother.
Well, I'm tired now. I need to go to bed.
Good night, folks!
Night
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02:57
night
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@sbi G'night.
Oh god... so racist
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Hm, damn, I forgot to copy Minecraft over to the laptop.
@Xeo fail
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Well, it's only a 4h ride without having to change trains, so I'll probably get by with the 3 VNs I put on there.
What I would like to put on, though, is foobar and my Touhou remixes... meh.
I hate it when I can't just use my external HDD
03:00
Omg... badge whore in the close vote queue...
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Anyone here reading SequentialArt?
There should be a badge whore badge
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Well, I do think the strip speaks for itself anyways:
Woops
Oh, it just shows small.
Penis comics
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03:03
SA's awesome.
[–]ashern 2938 points 11 hours ago* (10434|7501)
Easy. Diamonds. They have no inherent value, cannot be resold at anything remotely close to face value, and the only reason they are so valuable in our modern culture is because of a nearly 100 year long extremely saavy ad campaign. I can provide sources if needed.
Edit: To my fiancee who just saw this. I'll still buy you pretty diamonds sweetie. I love you.
lol
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Anyways, I'll copy over foobar + music and get going. See y'all in 4 days!
@sbi What you doing up at 4:00? I just woke up!
He had daughter issues
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Damn, I just noticed my consecutive visit streak will break. :( I'm at 300 right now.
03:06
Browse on your phone
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@R.MartinhoFernandes Basically, his daughter went kinda missing thanks to a dropped message.
@Xeo Just put up an auto-refresher.
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@Rapptz No contract.
@Mysticial My mother will kill me if I leave this PC running.
@Xeo why?
Just say you're compiling Clang.
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I wonder if I could write a script in 20 mins which refreshes, shuts down, boots up 12h later, refreshes, boots down...
@Mysticial Electricity costs.
@Mysticial lol, she wouldn't care and just cut the power.
03:08
How big is your PSU..?
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@Rapptz No idea.
Eh?
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But keeping it running for 4 days straight will surely tick my mother off.
@Xeo Does she not understand that some things can take a while to run?
:P
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This PC is old and I have no idea or paper about the specs anymore.
@Mysticial She doesn't particularly care.
03:09
Then it probably wastes like no electricity
The graphics card takes up the most Wattage now a days
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Well, I get blamed all the time for using so much power when I have my PC on 12h a day.
And that they have to pay extra because of me etc etc
PC's don't just much power.
Even a high-end one.
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I don't quite believe it, but hey.
Well it's false anyway, lol
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It's their flat, and I'm out here soon anyways.
03:10
Just think about the fridge, the microwave, hair-dryer...
A high end PC barely uses a 700 W PSU
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@Mysticial Tell my mother. I need to set up an explicit test someday about how much power my PC eats.
Woah, two sleds...
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Oh shoot, gotta go now, bye!
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03:11
Oh hey, I just remembered, I can get free internet at this McDonalds near my place over there. My visit streak's saved!
@Rapptz so worst case scenario, that's 700x12 Wh a day, or about 3066 kWh a year
How much does a fridge use in a year again?
idk.
I'm such a damn nerd... I'm watching Day[9] while playing with mongodb...
but I doubt anyone's running their computer at full load 12 hours a day every day
03:17
@melak47 You mean "normal" people.
you aren't calculating more digits all the time, right? :p
I've always wondered by they don't have special fridges for cold places where you can just grab cold air from outside.
@sbi Oh, read the transcript. Nevermind.
I'm mean like seriously, if it's below zero outside, why not use some of that?
Instead, we heat the house. Then we put a fridge inside the house that needs to cool warm air.
human style
03:19
"grab cold air from outside"
@Mysticial, It's a good idea for use with houses that haven't been built yet. You'd need somewhere for the air to come through.
Make a whole in the wall....
duh
A whole what? Hole?
*hole
yes hole -.-;
03:20
I wasn't planning on half a hole, don't worry.
That's what she said.
@sbi Well, since German class was cancelled I don't have any plans for any of those days anyway. Let me know when you know a date.
Why do I always set myself up so nicely for those?
03:36
@Mysticial At least most places, there's a lot more that could be done than that. Just for example, in most populated parts of the world, if you go down into the earth about 50 to 75 feet, you find that it stays nearly a constant temperature, right around 68 degrees in most places. About all we really need to do to keep most houses quite comfortable is some heat pipes to exchange heat with that giant heat sink.
Unfortunately, about the only way to do that in a new house is a (very expensive) fully custom home. As a normal home builder to do that instead of a normal furnace and air conditioner, and they'll look at you like a third arm just started growing out of your forehead (I know -- I tried).
@JerryCoffin lol
@JerryCoffin You tried to grow a gripping hand? How did it turn out?
@R.MartinhoFernandes Not so well.
> You've earned the "Good Question" badge for How did this question bypass the dupe-title filter and the question rate-limit?. See your profile.
I love you meta rep. :)
@Borgleader Presumably you're referring to anybody who subjects himself to such stuff?
@JerryCoffin I'm talking about #OP
@Borgleader Hmm...how odd.
how socially oblivious do you have to be to decide to send 600 emails in 3 days
(without ever getting a response...)
@Borgleader 600 emails in 3 days? Holy shit....
04:02
@Borgleader This might be the oldest thing I've seen posted here.
Posting date: "Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:45 pm"
say what? o.o
The story predates 4chan.
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@Mysticial I hope you'll forgive me if I entertain some doubts. 200 emails a day is a approximately one email every ~7 minutes, for 24 hours straight.
Easy to do if you're sending out mindless spam, but a bit harder if to send out real email at that rate.
Did sbi find his daughter?!
Whew.
If I read his reply correctly, it's the phone company that lost his text?
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I just caught up on that myself, reading the transcript in reverse order raised my blood pressure more than a bit.
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04:14
Phew!
@ScottW lol, sounds like a nice place.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Nice only? That sounds bitchin' awesome. You should also make it a multi-voice conversation some time too.
Should be fast since you're all on LAN.
Wut.
If they want to talk to each other, they probably can use air for that.
what's this air you speak of, a new VOIP service? :o
@melak47 We use it all the time.
Sadly it appears only my boss and some of the non-programming staff speaks English as good as me.
04:20
@TimPost It probably doesn't help living in a country where kidnapping is as common as in the Philippines.
What country is that?
Oh. The Philippines. Makes sense.
@R.MartinhoFernandes programmers who don't speak english? do they write their source code in german? :S
@melak47 They speak English, just not very well.
int zisIsZeWariable = eins;
My boss said he is "using me" to get them to get better at English.
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04:25
allo
Hey! A quick c++11 question if anyone can answer of the top of their head (if not, Ill ask on stack overflow), is there an easy way to declval an lvalue? usually declval<T>() returns an rvalue...
@melak47 I have heard that accent (accent? WTF, no, that is not an accent, it's just stupidity) from almost every French speaker I have met. I have never heard it from a German speaker.
@R.MartinhoFernandes :D
@AlexanderKondratskiy declval<T&>() will be an lvalue reference due to reference collapsing.
... Now I'm curious. If you have a templated base class that calls a nonexistent function, but when you derive from that base class have a function that fits the function parameters and signatures, does the templated base class just end up calling the derived class's function?
04:27
@R.MartinhoFernandes Hmm...maybe he should hire the Puppy for that. German guys learning English from a Portuguese guy doesn't immediately jump out as a the smoothest route.
@JerryCoffin Hey, I speak good English. :/
Also, the puppy said there is no difference in the pronounciation of "th" in "this" and "think".
@R.MartinhoFernandes Aha. I'll try that in what I'm doing. Thanks!
I must investigate.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Oh, he's from that part of England. Okay, maybe they should hire me! :-)
@JerryCoffin And he hired me for other reasons. This is just what he calls a nice benefit.
04:29
@JerryCoffin it might work though. if your new team member only speaks english, the other guys might improve their english
Well, I could speak French, but it wouldn't do much good.
I could speak German too, but then I'd spend all day repeatedly telling them my name, age, where I live, and where I come from.
@melak47 Just a stab in the dark, but I'm guessing he can probably speak at least a little Portuguese too... :-)
Whoa. Nothing happens: ideone.com/rsDhNl
OH WOOPS
@R.MartinhoFernandes I had a former boss who always said that. It was purely coincidental that his admin assistants were all young, female and unusually attractive... :-)
04:33
Forgot to hit run code.
Big fails are big.
input: Go Go Go!
output: no
I might be young and unusually attractive, but last I checked, I am not female.
Now it fails like it should.
So I guess it only defers the call if there's template paramters in there?
@ThePhD You are looking for one of CRTP or virtual functions.
Dude you forgot your semicolons
Yet it doesn't tell you
04:36
@ThePhD Also, read the damn errors.
> prog.cpp:3:23: note: (perhaps a semicolon is missing after the definition of 'Foo')
@R.MartinhoFernandes Different bosses have different ideas of "nice benefit".
@Rapptz Semicolons Schemicolons. Totally not important.
this isn't PHP!
Aww, I couldn't trick it :c
04:59
@LucD oh man, ain't it annoying that we can't std::forward_as_tuple<T...>(t...)?

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