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02:00
VLC was given as a free download, but he threw a tantrum about it just being on the App Store.
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Pretty sure that's not as bad as getting an actual Mac tattoo...
@EtiennedeMartel twitch.tv/ignproleague HyuN vs Sniper in like... -1 mins with Tastosis
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If you want a technology-related tattoo, get a Haskell tattoo. :P
02:02
@emartel Yeah, I have it on right now.
Well, just found a trial for a tool called dBpoweramp.
Converted all 14 files fucking quickly.
@ThePhD Huh?
@EtiennedeMartel dBPoweramp is probably the best converter out there.
@Borgleader VLC's removal from the App Store. It was removed some 5 years ago at Apple's behest, and then again recently after being ported by Applidium.
@Borgleader oh, haven't seen you, hi, if you're not checking it, GSL Finals twitch.tv/ignproleague :D
@ThePhD And the problem is?
@emartel Hi
While the first reason for removal were shady on Apple's part, this time the author of VLC Remi-what-the-hell decided to stick his dick in the hornet's nest a second time and cause some heat for Applidium, which Apple readily used as fuel to kick the Application from their app store.
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02:10
it wasn't his fault
@Borgleader Not really a problem, because anyone smart enough will just compile VLC and use it themselves. But ti sucks for people who don't know how to do that in the first place.
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the license was incompatible, but apple had 2 months anyway
@Ell The hell does the License of a ported VLC application matter when the software is made available free of charge to everyone and anyone ?
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read the bottom bit
My god... that Korean announcer really is into it...
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02:12
its not just about money
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Again, GPL is a piece of shit.
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its about principle
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It’s fine for kernels.
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if you wrote something and said here have this for free! just as long as you don't to do x y z with it then I think youd be annoyed at the cheek of people doing x y z with it, even after you've just given them it for free
"You can only share the app with 5 people"... Wtf apple
isnt it free?
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02:14
@Ell I would be happy enough if people would actually use my crappy software.
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yeah I would too tbf, but vlc isn't crappy
@Borgleader Why does this share limit have to matter if anyone can just download it for free????
@emartel Sniper looks like he's 14
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@Borgleader You can like apps on Facebook directly from the App Store, so you can share them with however many people you want.
@ThePhD Exactly... why put a limit on something that is free? It's retarded...
02:15
@Borgleader hehe yeah
@ThePhD It's not unconditionally free.
Here with the meaning of 'libre'.
And free beer.
But here's what I don't get: why make a public stink about it?
@ThePhD Nonsense.
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02:16
Talking about licenses.
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What license shall I pick for my daemon supervisor.
Aso, fuck English.
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vrijheid ≠ gratis :D
@ThePhD I'm not sure there's an adequate answer to this.
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just give away free beer and voila, everyone is happy. or a free meal for those who aren't content with free.beer
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02:16
I’ll go with zLib, as always.
Or, as the hackers would say, 'mu'.
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GPL3
CC0 all the things :P
Apple would've never gotten the ammunition it had to remove it from the app store if the original VideoLan project didn't shoot - not Apple in the face - Applidium in the face.
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02:17
Or WTFPL.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.videolan.vlc.betav7neon
In any case, I dont care about iOS cuz...
<3<3<3 ANDROID
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Nay I want attribution.
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CC BY :P
That's my issue. After Applidium asked for VideoLan's blessing to make it in the port and got it from VideoLan and had help from VideoLan, VLC just ups and copyleft-shoots Applidium in the face.
That's just messed up.
@Zoidberg'-- Not suitable for software.
Of the CC licenses only CC0 is suitable for software.
@ThePhD Here's the deal: the AppStore is Apple's. If they don't want to distribute your product, they won't.
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02:19
How come, exactly? (IANAL :P)
They don't need "ammunition" for anything.
Hahahaha VLC Beta: "This is a beta version. [...] It might kill your kitten, destroy your house and start the mayan apocalypse. [...]"
@Zoidberg'-- Dunno, that's what the CC lawyers say.
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Ah okay. xD
@R.MartinhoFernandes It's not clear whether the license would apply to source and/or binaries I think.
02:20
Yeah, probably something related to that.
It's not an issue with CC0, because it gives up rights on everything.
zlib's conditions only apply to Source, right?
Licenses on the permissive side can get away with only covering the source, if it's permissive enough.
If I statically compile zlib into my app, I don'thave to ship their notifications with my app, right?
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I’ll go with zlib license.
I'd rather just make up my own license.
"This is what you can do, this is what you can't do." Clear as day.
02:22
YANAL and shit.
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IORAL
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just say "give me teh munies if u yooz it"
@ThePhD It's fine.
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I <3 ORAL
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I like the Beerware license, except I don’t like beer.
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02:24
I’ll go with Cassisware.
Cakeware for me.
Well, Velvetcake Ware.
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"THE CASSISWARE LICENSE" (Revision 42):
<[email protected]> wrote this file. As long as you retain this notice you
can do whatever you want with this stuff. If we meet some day, and you think
this stuff is worth it, you can buy me a Fanta Cassis in return

    Radek Slupik.
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ugh
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Not sure if they have that stuff world wide.
It probably sucks.
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02:28
Oh it’s called Fanta Grape in America.
Cassis is grape?
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I’ll just refer to it as “grape juice”.
I thought it was some thingyberry.
Grape Drank License
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Oh it’s made of blackberries.
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02:29
Or blueberries.
Blackcurrant (Ribes nigrum) is a temperate fruit crop native to central and northern Europe and northern Asia, and is widely cultivated both commercially and domestically for its abundant berries. It is less well known in the USA where it has been subject to restrictions for much of the 20th century. It is a medium sized shrub, growing to 1.5 x 1.5 metres. The leaves are alternate, simple, 3–5 cm long and broad, and palmate with five lobes, with a serrated margin. The flowers are 4–6 mm diameter, with five reddish-green to brownish petals; they are produced in racemes 5–10 ...
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Or however that’s called in English.
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> If we meet some day, and you think this stuff is worth it, you can buy me grape juice in return.
A grape is a fruiting berry of the deciduous woody vines of the botanical genus Vitis. Grapes can be eaten raw or they can be used for making wine, jam, juice, jelly, grape seed extract, raisins, vinegar, and grape seed oil. Grapes are a non-climacteric type of fruit, generally occurring in clusters. History The cultivation of the domesticated grape began 6,000–8,000 years ago in the Near East. The earliest archeological evidence for a dominant position of wine-making in human culture dates from 8,000 years ago in Georgia. Yeast, one of the earliest domesticated microorganisms, occ...
> It is less well known in the USA where it has been subject to restrictions for much of the 20th century.
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> If we meet some day, and you think this stuff is worth it, you can buy me some hard drugs in return.
02:32
Add a Hajj condition: you must meet at least once during your lifetime and buy me <whatever>.
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> Beerware is a somewhat tongue-in-cheek term for software released under a very relaxed license. It provides the end user with the right to use a particular program.
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just say a fanta
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You don’t say?
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say they have to order you a drink via amazon
@Ell They could just buy someone's Poop Drink then and send it to you.
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02:34
wtf is poop drink?
You sure you want to know?
^ This.
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Reminds me of a GIF I saw on 4chan yesterday.
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A man did… nevermind.
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explain, I'd rather hear it from you guys than an animated gif
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02:36
It is probably uhm… a drink made of shit?
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I was expecting somethigg more imaginative really
@Ell No no no... its "purple drink"
@Ell Something more imaginative from something called "poop drink"?
...
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@Ell Okay, you put chocolate powder and milk in your ass, you go dance and then let it out and you have poop drink. Is that imaginative enough?
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yeah, I thought it was innuendo
or something
I guess a hot chocolate enema could be imaginative
boiling hot chocolate water, so yiu have the human waste also mixed with blood and stuff
sounds like just the thing after coming in from the cold
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02:41
Drinking blood makes you dizzy.
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Unless you’re a bug.
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its so crazy, they're just like sacks of blood
@Zoidberg'-- gross
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@Borgleader you’re saying the context wasn’t gross?
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02:43
it looks like jam in there
@Zoidberg'-- No that picture. These bugs are gross from up close
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The context was grosser.
Cool beans.
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We were talking about making a chocolate milkshake inside your ass.
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That’s much grosser than an insect sucking blood.
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02:44
I panic a lot around most insects, I tell myself I'm.not scared but I would probably jump odd a balcony to avoid a fly landing on me
or a moth
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@Cicada look at what you’re doing to that poor guy.
@Ell The hell.
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all I can think of is where they could have been and what their larvae looks like. insect larvae is absolutely disgusting, the sight of it squirming makes me physically wretch
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@Ell You mean a larve like this?
02:46
Cute guy.
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“dreamstime” perfect.
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that colourful one is okay but the ones that look like four foreskins wrapped around a sea cucumber are grotesque
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especially how they are semi trsnsparrent and you can see gross stufd . like that black stuff
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02:49
I suggest you use a debugger.
@EtiennedeMartel Reminds me of the time I was camping and I saw a caterpillar. I didn't want to kill it so I let it hang out and one day as I was waking up I accidentally stepped on it. Made me pretty sad.
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and when people.bite into them and they squirt everywhere its just gross
@R.MartinhoFernandes Hey, phobias are irrational. It's supposed to not make any damn sense.
some phobias make sense.
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02:50
I dont know how you can eat something moving in your mouth, especially something that likes raw meat
@EtiennedeMartel I was commenting on the description. I have no idea what he was describing.
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@Ell that also happens to cunts.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Larval form of some insect species.
@Zoidberg'-- facepalm
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I'm mobile, are you referring to the squirt thing?
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02:51
Yes.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Well, he's still a kid.
Could have executed it better.
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its fine with those, unless you feed it raw meat and turn it inside out.
I am completely lost.
Me too.
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02:52
I have an annual fly infestation :(
that's where my phobia comes from. the flies get really dosy, so you can touch them. sometimes they are flying and they just plummet for some reason. they all look either diseased or disabled in some way and it freaks the hell out of me
also my earliest scary memory is taking acorns home, then I opened one up and there was some kind of larvae in there and I ran away because I was scared
actually I was building a house for the acorns, and I decides to take the hats off them all, but broke into one. I threw my house in the bin because I didn't want to see the gross thing wriggling around :(
We use live asticots for fishing, so I am used to handling the little fuckers with my hands.
Adult arthropods feel very alien, though.
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that's disgusting o.O
yum
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02:58
I've used those sea worms before which can go inside out
We don't grab them from rotten meat, btw.
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and because they wiggle and feed on diseasey stuff
They're grown specifically for fishing in a clean enviroment.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Hu. We use earthworms.
One day maggots will be eating your rotten corpse
02:58
@EtiennedeMartel We too, but for other kinds of fish.
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I know, I just can't get over the fact
I know its irrational, but they are just horrible :o and cockroaches, eww. any insects
I wouldn't want to touch that.
Bugs are cool.
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03:02
nor would i, it looks uber toxic
Wasps are cool as well.
Wasps are ugly.
Tell that to Jerry Coffin
The only kind of insect I'm worried about are ants, because they're probably going to rule the Earth at one point.
They're not furry.
@Pubby He would probably agree.
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03:04
I don't mind bees or wasps, although. tend ito acoid them for reasons if being stung, butbi can be totally calm around them
Wasps are the worst bugs ever
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ants are okay too
of the ground insects, cockroaches are by far the worst
they are like born to carry disease and reproduce at all costs
> In one experiment, cockroaches were able to recover from being submerged underwater for half an hour.
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UK wasps aren't bad imho. but I know ghee are hornets else where
Well, well.
@Ell You know, any living organism is born to reproduce at all costs.
03:07
My dad once shot a hornet with a BB-gun.
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see like, how? half an hour? they're the devils minions!
that's accuracy
and yeah i guess :P
> Cockroaches do indeed have a much higher radiation resistance than vertebrates, with the lethal dose perhaps six to 15 times that for humans. However, they are not exceptionally radiation-resistant compared to other insects, such as the fruit fly.
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my dad used to shoot squirrels in his attic with an air rifle
Squirrels are cool.
03:08
^ I make silly things.
Lot of bugs in the room.
And they're trying to multiply.
@Cheersandhth.-Alf WTF
I read that grasshoppers have their ears in the legs.
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see flies are just ugly
I read that too
asm is prettier than flies
are? is?
03:12
is
asm is the subject and it's singular
unless you become pedantic and state there are many types of assembly language, even then it doesn't matter.
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asm is prettier a fy
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just reread that, turns out I'm quite tired
ill sleep once Lionel is done
Anyone here good with Matlab?
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nighty night all
03:19
I downvoted for drive-by linking.
@W3Geek Why would you ask about ActionScript in a C++ room?
^ I trimmed it down a little.
Is Actionscript any good? I always hear bad things about Flash but nothing about AS.
Now more misleading! :-)
@EtiennedeMartel The same reason why he would ask in PHP and JS rooms
03:21
@Pubby Oh, so he's spamming it?
Well, it's revenge downvoting time!
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okay, it's a a non-quine self-reproducing masm 6 program, i just thought it was fun making it
its output is its own source code :D
lol'd
I saw it too
His question doesn't make sense.
03:30
yeah.
"using something like this over #include is bound to use less computational power, correct?"
What does argv have to do with #include
This guy is a games programmer?
lol
I wanted to say maybe he means including the string header
hey look we both commented at the same time
Well you're going to use strings anyway. I still don't see the point.
Why so many downvotes on my question?
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Q: argc argv parameters in C++ - (games programming)

DezachuAnother 'new' thing I've had to consider tonight: int main(argc, char *argv[]) Being a games programmer, I can't see why I'd want to read in from the cmd line, but you never know! Why wouldn't I just use getline and read it into a string? Or getch if it were something else? I suspect the ans...

03:33
I'm not spamming.
I think we told him, lol
hehe
It is a urgent question.
Most people can have knowledge of AS and C++ can't they?
Damn.. Newbie hints is down.
@W3Geek how do you smell?
03:34
@W3Geek It seems you drive-by linked your question in 3 different chatrooms.
@W3Geek almost every question is "urgent"
@W3Geek Your last question is related to AS3, I didn't downvote it, but I really don't give a shit about it either
I really have no idea why you actually ask that in the C++ Lounge, TBH
Tip (Tested with Chrome and Firefox.)
I downvoted because you linked it out of nowhere without contributing anything to the conversation.
I know every question is "urgent" in there own way. I'm not drive-by linking or drive-by spamming. This is due by tomorrow at midnight. It seems like someone could help me solve the problem. Most people have of multiple languages...
What was I supposed to contribute when I have a question?
Never mind.
03:37
@W3Geek You got in here and pasted your question and left. That's drive by linking.
@W3Geek That's the point, it's a drive-by link. It contributes nothing. If you read the newbie hints (which are unfortunately down) it says not to do this
@StackedCrooked What's it supposed to be? o.o
Oh the bookmarklet? Cool.
I apologize for drive by linking. I wasn't meaning to do that. :| I'm just jumping between chats to see if anyone has the solution for this.
'tis okay. People just don't like it.
@StackedCrooked OH dudeeeeeeeeeee is it what I think it is?
03:40
@Borgleader Just kidding :) It launches a popup.
@W3Geek You have little to no chance to find a AS3 solution in a C++ chat.
Just sayin'.
My instructor isn't online right now. I figured that hey, it was a good enough shot to try the C++ room to see if anyone have knowledge of ActionScript.
Yeah only person I know who knows AS3 in here is @ThePhD
There isn't a AS room on here is there?
@StackedCrooked lol nice one, but seriously I wish I could put bookmarklets in the navigation bar. My bookmarks bar is usually hidden because I want to have more space for the intertubes
03:41
If it exists, it's probably dead.
Yikes, this sucks. AS is a dying language. I posted on a Flash board yesterday and no one has answered.
I think that board maybe dead.
@W3Geek AS probably shouldn't have been alive in the first place.
Unfortunately I have to learn it. I don't really care to much about it. I would much rather use JS or learn Java.
Blasphemy.
03:46
Well guys I apologize about the drive by linking. I meant no harm. I have to go off into the wilderness and find the answer to this.
@W3Geek you're working on an assignment?
@W3Geek assignments are usually PRETTY COMMON... a google search will probably fix your problem.
Which is one of the reasons you may get downvoted
Yeah. Its a weather application I have to develop using Yahoo's Weather API and xml.
I'll try to google it.
@W3Geek What? You mean you didn't, already?
I have been researching for the last two days. No answers.
No I have google searched over and over.
I'm about to go bald. I meant, I haven't searched for the school assignment on google.
I attend Full Sail University.
03:50
@W3Geek: if it's a school assignment, aren't they supposed to teach you that stuff before giving you an assignment on it?
I apologise, I did type string inside the greater than/less than signs, it appears to have removed it. And I saw you all moaning about me on chat, you mean people :( :P Also emartel, calm yourself down, I'm a new games programmer if you really must know more details. Cheers for the negativity. To simplify for all: I can't PERSONALLY see where you'd EVER type to the cmd line for a game as they're all ran through .exe's, so is argv/argc of any use to me? Is argc/argv better to use over #include string if I ever DO need to read from the cmd line? — Dezachu 8 mins ago
Yeah but my case is a little different. I stumbled across something I am unsure of. Its like AS is forgetting the code I type in.
Again, whats up with #include <string> vs argc/argv
@Borgleader F-A-I-L.
@W3Geek Again. If this is a school assignment, there should be a teacher to help you, right?
If not, change school or something. :S
Can't find anything relevant. :( google.com/…
03:53
@Borgleader not worth the time to reply :P
anyway, I'm negative
Yeah the teacher will be online tomorrow evening but I wanted to get this assignment done tonight.
@emartel Hahaha that was funny.
@W3Geek haha what? you're looking for the actual assignment? look for keywords to help you solve your problem
@Borgleader This guy claims itself to be a "game programmer", that's probably a lie
Unless the rumor is true and all game programmers are dumbasses
but I don't believe in that though
@emartel haha I was searching for the actual assignment to see if anyone has posted anything relevant... I've searched for "flash builder forgets code", "button forgets text and event listener as3", "as3 flex forgot code", "#1009 error", and tons of others searches.
03:56
a programmer in general, should have enough ego to NOT ask why you'd pass CLI args to a game executable
@netcoder but he's a new games programmer :)
Good an instructor is on.
@emartel More like he's (very) new at programming and wants to make games.
03:57
@Borgleader hehe yeah
@Borgleader I think you have a point
@W3Geek and you're at full sail? I thought they had good students...
anyone played with Qt using an Express Edition VS?
I'm not sure if I don't get it because Express doesn't support plugins and Qt is supposed to be integrated or what
@netcoder You do know it pings every time you edit that, right? -.-;
@Borgleader yeah sorry, markdown fail :P
keeps you awake, though

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