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5:00 PM
 
@Rapptz That's pretty offensive. Feels a bit racist.
 
This is fucking hilarious.
 
yeah yeah.
 
@Chimera Well, factually, about 93% of black people or something ridiculous like that voted Obama, so I doubt they are mourning Romney.
 
@Rapptz You just made my day.
 
5:01 PM
@DeadMG No, they are racist also.
 
wait
did you just accuse 93% of black Americans of being racist?
 
I'm blaming those blacks who NEVER EVER voted before and didn't know the issues of voting for the first or second time EVER because of a black man running for president.
 
yeah, because all white people who vote for the first time are super-educated, right?
and every single black person who voted was a first-time voter
 
No, I'm not saying ever black person who voted for Barrack is racist. I'm saying the black population voted in RECORD numbers for Barracks first term. That seems a bit racist... hey look, one of us... lets vote this time.
 
in case you hadn't noticed, the number of black people in America is also at a record high.
therefore, even if their voting habits were identical to white voters, a record number of them would still have voted Obama.
 
user1804599
5:05 PM
If you say "black", you are a racist. Period.
 
@Aardvark Retarded statement right there.
 
and secondly, you seem to be ignoring the possibility that they didn't vote Republican because the Republican Party is almost entirely horrifically racist.
 
You're the reason why I hate when people use the word racist.
 
user1804599
@Rapptz *extreme sarcasm*
 
sure, Obama may attract some more black people than a regular white Democrat
 
5:05 PM
I'm aware that the number of Hispanics and Blacks have been rising over a number of years. It's said in fact that Hispanics will be the majority in a number of years in the US.
 
As for Chimera, anyone who doesn't vote for Romney is racist? Seriously?
 
but historically, the Republican Party has virtually never, ever, won any significant share of the vote for black demographic.
 
@Rapptz Listen you fuck! I didn't say that.
 
It sure as hell sounds like it.
 
@Chimera Sounded like that, imho.
 
5:06 PM
the only thing that's changed is that now, you can't afford, electorally, to ignore them any longer.
 
@DeadMG This is partially true.
 
@DeadMG Not true. The original "Republican" party was the party that freed the slaves.
 
The Republican Party was originally for black people's rights but it had a shift in recent years and has since garnered little to no noticeable votes from blacks.
 
@Rapptz Which I don't understand, because honestly neither the Democrats nor Republicans do more than the other for African Americans.
 
user1804599
I never call people racist. Their opinions are their opinions, and I don't care about their opinions.
 
5:08 PM
I will call it racist if you ONLY vote for somebody because of their color. That is by definition, racist.
 
The Republican party has recently identified itself as a group of religious people who take their social issues to the core based on said religion. You can deny it all you want, but being a Republican in the US has garnered votes mostly from White Christians in the bible belt.
So in a sense Chimera, you are in the minority to vote based on economical issues.
 
nah
I think the economy was the deciding issue of the election
 
@Rapptz Black people are just as "religious" as Whites.
 
No shit.
 
if the electorate did not feel that Obama handled Sandy well, and did not have good economic news right before the election
Romney would have got in
 
5:11 PM
How did Obama handle Sandy well? He stopped in for photo ops and left to continue campaigning. And then didn't get FEMA involved as soon as he could have.
 
don't ask me, I wasn't paying attention
opinion polls suggest that the public thought he handled it well- something like 2:1 for:against
 
I think the next four years people will realize that Obama's fiscal policy is terrible.
 
but it was really against Romney, because he wanted to cut back FEMA
@Chimera It's a lot better than Romney's.
 
@DeadMG I think Romney was ready to cut across the board to get the deficit down.
 
right, but that's not really helpful
I mean, when you have a disaster, people care less about the deficit and more about not starving to death.
it's hard to find something people care about more than money, but "Not starving to death" is certainly one of them.
 
5:13 PM
@DeadMG I don't think Romney or any president would allow FEMA to be gutted to the point of not being able to help.
Or provide an alternative or alternives.
 
@Chimera I didn't follow this too closely, but a pundit I saw said on the BBC that Romney would have cut it altogether.
 
@DeadMG That may be true. If it is the case, then Romney was most likely saying let the states have their own disaster relief mechanisms.
Which I'm not sure I agree with.
FEMA has a role to play and is important.
 
changing from a federal to state level would only cost money and massively cut the amount of aid available.
 
I know you think Republicans just bow to money to the exclusion of everything else, but just that isn't true.
 
in the current economic climate, I'm not blaming anybody for looking for places to save money.
 
5:16 PM
something has to be done. A well respected economist said if our deficit gets much worse we will almost NEVER be able to recover because we won't even be able to keep up with the interest on the debt.
 
all I am saying is that natural disasters do occur in the US and they will, statistically, occur more and more frequently in the future, and if anything, FEMA needs a real budget increase.
@Chimera Nah, that's BS because you'd just default, and thirty years from now it'd be history. "Never" is definitely wrong.
 
@DeadMG Really? You think China will just let us never pay them back?
 
fuck "let us", if you don't have the money you can't pay them back and there's nothing China can do about it.
 
Ell
apart from all the tanks they have >:D
 
the problem is that you don't tax your wealthiest citizens anywhere near enough, your healthcare is the most inefficient shit anywhere in the world (seriously, even places like Somalia get more efficient healthcare), and your political system prevents any effective changes.
 
5:19 PM
I don't know, I think it is irresponsible to just continue on the same path and allow the US government to default on loans. But again, my opinion and I could be wrong.
 
oh, and did I mention the massive (pointless) spending on defense? seriously.
 
and our military spending is high and accounts for a large majority of the total world military spending..
 
@Chimera Oh, I don't think that default is the right path either- I definitely think it should be avoided. I was merely saying that "never" is definitely not true.
 
Yes @DeadMG, I realize the US doesn't do anything right.
 
Religion still manages to play an important role here when deciding candidates and garnering votes..
 
5:20 PM
@Rapptz Not for me.
 
When this would be absolutely unheard of in Europe..
Yeah but remember what I said, you're in the minority of Republicans.
 
@Chimera All I'm saying is, if you want to reduce your deficit, there are plenty of black holes in the US budget which could happily be closed.
 
And in fact I wish the Republican party would just make Christian values a less prominent part of it's platform.
@DeadMG Agreed.
 
Anyway Obama doesn't have to worry about re-election anymore.
 
Anyways guys, I gotta run and do some shopping. The wife and I are having to get a bedroom ready for a foster child. Oh no! A Republican that cares about the welfare of the fortunate! Can't be true. :-)
 
5:22 PM
So it'll be interesting to see how that effects his policies.
 
@Rapptz That's the scary part. Now he is free to do what he really wants without having to worry about pissing off 75% of the population.
Have a good day/night everybody!
The wife is yelling at me to get off the computer! :-)
 
I don't see it scary but I can see why someone would put it that way.
Anyway bye.
 
@Rapptz Well, I sure do hope I'm wrong. :-)
Later....
Keep it real. :-)
Nice chatting... even if we don't agree....
 
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lol
 
oh god...
I finally got my wifi router
everything is now setup (funny wifi SSIDs and everything)
 
user1804599
5:27 PM
@Rapptz nice inconsistent font size. Seems legit.
 
When I didn't have internet I used to break into my neighbour's WEP protected Wifi.
 
@Rapptz lol well I used WPA-2/PSK I hear it's a lot harder to break into
 
Well I can't break into WPA-2/PSK so yeah I guess so. I'm sure others can though..
 
Also I hid the SSIDs
 
SSID = "FBI Surveillance Van"
 
5:31 PM
lol
 
@Chimera Yes I have something similar, that and "Skynet Global Defense Network"
(it's a dual band router)
 
@Borgleader I keep the standard SSID now that I'm home but I had more fun with it when I was in uni
 
@DeadMG What kind of chips, the snack or the Pommes Frites? :)
 
pfft
 
@FredOverflow Wth is "Pommes Frites"?
 
5:33 PM
as if an English person would have non-real chips.
 
@Borgleader ..french fries
 
and FTR, neither of those things is chips.
real chips are big and thick
 
not those crappy fries or crisps
 
@Rapptz Nah those are juste "Frites"
 
5:34 PM
@Borgleader You were saying?
 
@Rapptz Nobody says Pommes Frites, it's just Frites.
 
@DeadMG Those are still fries. Just a different kind called wedges.
 
user1804599
Moronic package manager. What "permission denied". I'm logged in as root. T_T
 
@Rapptz Not in England.
 
@Borgleader French fries are known as frites, patates frites or pommes frites in French, a name which is also used in many non-French-speaking areas, and have names that mean "fried potatoes" or "French potatoes" in others.
 
5:36 PM
I've heard "Pomme de terre frite" (as in fried potato) but not "pomme frite" maybe cuz im not from france
"Pomme frite" sounds more like "friend apple"
 
Fries are much tastier with cheese and gravy on top of them.
 
user1804599
The only sane package manager I have used was npm.
 
@DeadMG In England you consider "fries" to be a catch-all phrase for shoestring fries. In here we consider fries to be anything that is fried and potato. So we categorize them into wedges, shoestrings and others.
@EtiennedeMartel I've never had poutine..
 
@EtiennedeMartel I prefer the cheese spaghetti sauce version but yeah it's a lot better this way.
 
@Borgleader The Germans say "Pommes Frites" or "Fritten".
 
5:40 PM
@FredOverflow TIL this.
 
The pronunciation is "Pomm Fritz" :)
 
@FredOverflow or just Pommes
 
right
 
@FredOverflow I prefer Helmut Fritz (youtube.com/watch?v=4mNDYWhRSaw)
:P
 
> The uploader has not made this video available in your country. Sorry about that.
 
5:41 PM
Oh god damnit...
 
@Borgleader Dieses Video ist in Deutschland leider nicht verfügbar.
 
BUT AMERICA IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE LAND OF THE FREE. ;_;
 
Stupid fucking Vevo
 
Yeah Vevo sucks but at least it's a decent bridge between the copyright laws and YouTube.
 
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/2825977/helmut_fritz_a_m_nerve/
How about this one?
 
5:47 PM
Only the 10th of November.. already have a bigger beard than most No Shave Novembers I've done.
 
Last year my friend dyed his mustache blue for the last week of movember
 
movember is a dumb name.
 
No shave November is too long.
 
Yeah but Movember is for moustache only.
 
and NSNovember sounds like an Objective-C class.
 
5:53 PM
Sounds dumb.
 
And so until a better name is found, movember is what i'll use.
 
6:29 PM
You don't have to associate NS with Objective-C.
You can associate it with Natural Selection (2)
 
Jul 11 at 21:06, by sbi
YOU IDIOTS! THAT WAS A JOKE!
 
What the...
 
Hi, could someone help me with a quick problem I'm having in C++? I'm pretty new to C languages in general
 
Does it require code dumping?
 
its like 8 lines of code
 
6:35 PM
I'd post on SO.
 
Xeo
@sehe haha
 
lmao. I have no idea why that's funny to me.
 
that's the oldest joke in the book, right
 
I think I know older jokes.
 
6:41 PM
not in the book
 
All old jokes were in the book.
 
Not right
 
> On several occasions I've managed to get gcc and nmap onto a photocopier, which I then used as a base of operations. — Attacking an office printer
 
lol
what you guys up to?
except posting old jokes.
 
reading old jokes
 
6:48 PM
masturbating vigorously
 
nice?
 
@DeadMG oh I didn't need that level of detail.
 
@TonyTheLion Don't give him any ideas.
 
Trying not to. But you know me :P
So I bought some sausages (pun noted) last week and I had hoped to consume them tonight, yet I have found them to have gone off. I had to throw them out. Urgh, me and cooking is not going well together.
 
@TonyTheLion You brought the back to life! That's so much more impressive
 
6:54 PM
You a word?
 
@TonyTheLion There's a pun?
Oh.
Don't tell me.
 
6 mins ago, by DeadMG
masturbating vigorously
 
Penis.
It's always penis.
 
and the fact someone mentioned masturbation just a few lines earlier
and then I start talking about sausages
@sehe I can't parse that.
 
@sehe Captain Obvious: You accidentally a word.
flies away
 
6:58 PM
holy fuck my phone was on my back and I got a text. Scared the flying fuck out of me
 
Why do you carry your phone on your back?
 
It was on my bed and it sneaked on my back.
 
7:15 PM
@TonyTheLion Sure you can. Here, try this: liveworkspace.org/code/8a45e9392af1b79214e6b441c5330510
@Borgleader Nope ^
 
@sehe the -> them
 
So I didn't a word, I a letter
 
true
 
@sehe lol
 
7:27 PM
@TonyTheLion That's actually quite a neat showcase of how low-overhead spirit/karma can be at the call site. Of course, I cut just about every possible corner I could find, there :)
 
what is karma in this sense?
karma is internet points to me :P
 
erm
WTF
 
If it wasn't for /r/circlejerk I wouldn't be able to browse reddit anymore. Same with unsubscribing from /r/atheism
 
circlejerk is hilarious
I unsubscribed from r/atheism a long time ago. Too much atheistic circlejerk
 
7:35 PM
@TonyTheLion It's the output part (format_delimited, here)
 
I prefer /r/magicskyfairy for circlejerk'd atheist material.
 
ah right
 
sbi
> So yeah, here in Canada we just don’t do anything ever. We sit around the house all day and masturbate and when it comes time to pay our bills, William Shatner rides by on his magical moose steed and delivers us a fat stack of cash and rations of premium maple syrup and back bacon. — ayerate
@Etiennede, is that true? If so, I know why @Tony considered moving to Cananadada.
 
What?
lol
 
7:46 PM
@sbi Not really.
 
.... @sbi Wat.
 
sbi
@TonyTheLion If said: If this is true, I know why you considered moving to Cananadada. I am not sure how to explain this, really.
@EtiennedeMartel Ow. Too bad for the lion.
 
I have more friends in Canada than I do in the states.
 
@sbi I wasn't sure what you were referring to at first, until I read the paragraph above it, after I had already responded.
Also, I like Moose.
 
sbi
@ThePhD See here. I am not sure how that relates to what I posted, though.
 
7:48 PM
So fuck you! :P
 
sbi
@Rapptz Trying to rake in some sympathy here?
 
@TonyTheLion Interesting. I should try reading the chat upside down once
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Lol.
 
@sbi No. I'm implying Americans are crazy.
 
@Rapptz Agreed.
I'm just not sure how most Americans get away with the thoughts they actually live their lives by.
 
7:50 PM
@sehe whoever said I should read things on here in any particular order. The order in which I read this transcript is undefined. :P
 
It's as if they're completely oblivious to the rest of the map, let alone anything longer than a short car ride away from them.
 
Americans are American. 'nuff said.
 
Then again, I live about 40 minutes from Canada. (Michigan)
 
@TonyTheLion Nice
 
@TonyTheLion Tony.ReadPages( 0, 529 ); // Invoke UB
 
@sbi oh a red-eyed moose!
@ThePhD lol
 
lol Romney has about 47% of the popular vote. How ironic.
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We are the 47%.
A new meme was born. ^
 
7:52 PM
@Rapptz HEHE
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I love it.
 
sbi
@Rapptz Actually, according to my experience, not all are.
 
Thanks sbi. I know I'm not crazy :)
 
sbi
However, according to my experience, all of them believe they are not.
 
7:59 PM
I set you up for that punchline. Damn me.
 
sbi
Ah, don't worry. We're talking Merkins here. I would have found a punch line either way.
I spent some time traveling across the US in the 90s, I have visited relatives, stayed with friends, and talked to strangers. Coming at this from a completely different angle, there is a thing or two I have learned about that people. :)
And not all of that is negative.
> Bah, I really need to double check (triple actually, as I did double check) my grammar. Sorry all, I don't intend to come across as a YouTube commenter or something. I have multiple university degrees, I swear.DaveH (emphasis mine)
 
@TonyTheLion Real men flip two tables.
 
Real men flip a series of tables...
yep, it happens ^
Now I remember this!
 
pfft
my brother showed me those ten minutes ago
 
oh what
why you here then?
 
I too already browsed le reddit. And I'm here because I have nothing else to do today.
 
me too, third time today I'm going through the links
 
8:23 PM
why am I in the non-reddit place? presumably not to see content from reddit ^^
 
@DeadMG chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/10/loungec is just a redirect for reddit.com/r/all
 
@DeadMG lol
oh puppy, so much logic.
so fugly
 
Why would you even do that...
 
@Borgleader Because C++
 
sbi
> So wait, my shampoo is too dangerous to take on a plane, but it's safe enough to just toss into a box with 400 other fluids too dangerous to take on a plane? Do you have a second illusion of safety available for non retarded people? — cracked.com
 
8:28 PM
because someone like's to fuck with other people
@sbi point made
 
I got pat down at an Airport.
It was pretty lulz.
When they were done, I actually looked at the guy and I almost said "That's it?"
 
Because stupid people do the recruiting.
 
robot
 
@Rapptz wtf...
 
8:31 PM
what's the difference between string and text?
 
"Should have told her that there wasn't anything you could do, because she didn't clip the ends and all the data leaked out." LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
 
this is string ^
text <--- This is text.
 
@DeadMG How so?
You mean, why I picked a different name?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes no
 
8:33 PM
String vs text is like numeral vs number
Text is more abstract than strings
 
I mean, Luc Danton stormed out of a conversation because I kept thinking string == text
 
> Someone I used to work with did this. I told her to google something, so she went to yahoo, searched for 'gogle' scrolled down the page and hit the only link that didn't actually take her to google, and then got confused and closed the browser.
lol
 
You skipped the part where she was working in a tech company.
 
I saw it
the irony
fail
 
@DeadMG Maybe because plain text is traditionally in ASCII encoding while strings can be encoded differently?
 
8:37 PM
@DeadMG Well, the term "string" can mean simply "sequence", as in "byte string".
 
In the case where strings can be encoded diffrently,
 
KGhroigaheh.
 
should you stick an 'Encoding' variable / function on the string, to get the encoding (as an enum or an encoding class or anything you can imagine?)
 
@ThePhD You encode stuff in strings.
It's important to be accurate with terminology when you are explaining the terminology.
 
this ^
 
8:40 PM
and
I don't think that's what he was talking about
all he said was that they weren't the same, implied that this was some failure on my part so fundamental that it ended any chance of a discussion, didn't have time to explain, and left.
 
Oh well, you'd have to ask him, then.
 
ah
well, I just wanted to check that I wasn't going insane
and you two are fairly in sync so I thought I'd ask you
 
I would never want to bump in to this guy. Jeez
 
@TonyTheLion If I could control it, I would bump all over with him.
 
@DeadMG Can you link to that?
 
8:42 PM
@ThePhD eeek Scary.
 
not whilst I'm playing Starcraft 2 on the left screen
 
@TonyTheLion There's no need to be scared when you can snake-whip someone, and in the time that you whip them, have them also be eaten whole.
Whip-eating. ... Wow, this sounds like some really messed up fetish. :c
 
oh gawd
 
5 hours ago, by Luc Danton
That's what you (you, not the SL) get for mixing strings with text.
 
I guess Strings are meant to represent text, not necessarily -be- text. ... Whatever that means.
 
8:45 PM
lol
best definition ever! :P
 
..... Wow.
That was exceedingly disturbing and yet so... true.
 
@DeadMG To be honest I do not understand why you need to improve/fix/replace/whatever std::exception
 
@DeadMG Maybe it's related to there being strings which represent the same text yet are different
 
My... ... my brain doesn't know what to do with it.
 
Like all those combining characters stuff
 
8:47 PM
@Pubby It's related to text being more than a sequence of things.
 
Puppy is.... DeadMGíng?
 
u8"\xD800blahblah" <- it's a string! So what? Does it represent text? (Answer: if you take it as UTF-8, no, it doesn't.)
 
Who's to say that isn't text?
 
The Unicode standard.
@DeadMG Sure, there is std::exception::what, but is that really important for anything other than diagnostics?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes But how am I going to describe a problem with, say, Unicode data, without a Unicode encoding?
 
8:53 PM
For diagnostics, I want GHCi's approach here: I don't want to see on my screen, I probably want to see U"\x004F\x0328" or U"O\x0328".
Because that is not lossy. If you get that in a bug report, you can reconstruct the exact data that led to trouble.
 
sbi
> Mom I didn't know you're on Reddit! Heh awkward... — Blink_182
 
Xeo
o_ô <- mfw no mentioning of indices trick.
 
Oh. I sent that poor sod that way from an SO question.
> Hi, I don't want to discuss such subjective concept as what is intuitive, but I'm [going to]
Sigh.
 
Xeo
Also, I don't get why Nicol says the "extract_variant" thing can't be done without language support.
 

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