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6:00 PM
Yeah no
 
Ohh fuck
 
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@DeadMG Because swapping buffers is a feature of the windowing system. DirectX has no issues with that because it's Windows-only.
 
@DeadMG .
 
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Nope
Fuck off already will you
 
6:01 PM
Ahem.
 
L.O.L
 
yesterday, by sbi
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Needs flags.
 
Please, no flagging.
 
You're bad at this.
 
6:01 PM
The real question is, "Who is capable of downvoting linkdumpers?" And the answer is, me! — DeadMG 1 min ago
@EtiennedeMartel Good shout.
 
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Some people just can't take a hint
 
seems like
 
@CatPlusPlus If that was a "hint", then a nuclear strike is a "mild sign of aggression".
 
lol
We're a real friendly bunch.
 
6:07 PM
Hm? Only @CatPlusPlus and @DeadMG are jerks. Everyone else? Cool people.
At least I think I'm cool.
 
No, you're just drunk more often.
 
you make it sound like downvoting linkdumpers is a jerk thing to do
 
I don't have /ban so I have to get by.
 
This room has brought the asshole out in me more than I want to at times.
 
6:08 PM
@CatPlusPlus I don't see the difference.
 
But it's the best place on the interwebs to chat, so wtf
we should have Best Asshole of The Week.
 
Meh, it would always be the same persons.
 
that was my point.
 
Depends on how you interpret it
 
Ok, Polycode violates rules #1, #4, #5, #7, #9, #11. That's 5/11. But it will be 6/12, because I discovered a new reason to hate authors of bad C++ libraries.
 
6:12 PM
Using buzzwords?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Remind me of the list?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Having a "fork me on Github" ribbon?
 
@EtiennedeMartel Nah, I'm sticking to technical issues.
 
@EtiennedeMartel what's so bad about that?
 
Ell
another reason? o.O
 
6:14 PM
@CatPlusPlus I think we should interpret it as best (if slightly over the top) response to somebody being/acting like a jerkwad. Primary criteria would be the response being swift, humorous, and unforgettable.
 
@bamboon It's a symptom, not a problem per se.
 
@JerryCoffin Yeah, not what I had in mind exactly.
 
@JerryCoffin The faster something gets stars, the better.
I mean, it's not a perfect metric, but it gives a good approximation.
 
@DeadMG gist.io/3176551. I'm formulating rule #12, should be up soon.
 
I'm reading the Bin transcript. :|
 
6:15 PM
@CatPlusPlus I can guess what you had in mind, but this strikes me as more fun. For "this guy was a twit", we already have the brown list.
 
@TonyTheLion Man, you're bored.
 
Basically
 
Huh, I figured GCC could target Java bytecode by now, but apparently only partial support. Only the java GCC can target it.
 
Ell
i wonder if the hurd will get finished
 
Wait, it appears I missed this: "void dirtyMatrix (bool val) Sets the state of the dirty matrix flag." So, make it rule #2 as well.
Ah, no, that's just bad naming.
It's an invalidation thing.
 
6:20 PM
Hey, they even have their own "Unicode-friendly string" class.
 
dat pun.
 
rofl
 
@EtiennedeMartel It's an encoding conversion facility that only supports UTF-8. And stores the data twice in public fields of type std::string and std::wstring.
 
Polycode String featuring lots of interesting features such as no iterators!
 
@EtiennedeMartel Oh.
@EtiennedeMartel They expose the internal string, so it's not that bad.
 
6:22 PM
as an STLString, of course
 
There's the contents and s_contents public attributes.
 
Xeo
3
Q: Is move assignment via destruct+move construct safe?

Bjarke H. RouneHere's a very easy way to define move assignment for most any class with a move constructor: class Foo { public: Foo(Foo&& foo); // you still have to write this one Foo& operator=(Foo&& foo) { if (this != &foo) { // avoid destruct...

 
It's pretty much worthless.
 
Xeo
Don't we have a dupe for this one?
 
so what's "How to hate a C++ library #12"?
 
6:25 PM
lol
 
Ell
meh i don't like iterators
 
@TonyTheLion I sent that to my boss. He hates bananas.
 
@EtiennedeMartel :)
 
@Xeo I don't think we do, the problem with the "dupe" was that it wasn't exception safe, wheras this (presumably/probably) is.
 
@Ell Wut. Sure, it's not perfect, but it works.
 
6:26 PM
@EtiennedeMartel Do you hate your boss?
 
@Borgleader No. He's awesome. He sometimes sings and stuff.
 
Ah ok
 
Ell
@EtiennedeMartel I just don't like them, they seem so clunky
 
And I managed to write my own GetPixel for Bitmaps... damn things are flipped
 
Ell
I prefer ease of use over performance
 
6:28 PM
@Ell Yeah, would have ben better with ranges.
 
@DeadMG The Renderer can only be accessed from CoreServices, apparently. I'm starting to think that's actually the same thing as singletons.
 
@Ell Iterators have nothing to do with performance. They provide flexibility.
 
Ell
the reason I like c++ is the RAII, not the performance
@EtiennedeMartel Oh, I thought it was performance. What kind of flexibility? o.O
 
Iterators are great :)
 
@Ell iterators can be and point at virtually anything mainly
 
6:29 PM
@Borgleader Except when you're writing them.
 
@Ell You can feed them to pretty much all stl algorithms
 
@Ell std::vector<int> input(std::istream_iterator<int>(std::cin), std::istream_iterator<int>());
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I wouldn't know I never tried.
 
@Ell Generic interface for iteration, no matter what the underlying implementation of the container is.
 
Xeo
@MooingDuck Soooo close to MVP :D
 
6:30 PM
@EtiennedeMartel or even if it's a container at all
 
@MooingDuck Indeed.
Since C++ hates abstract base classes, then, we have iterators instead of a IEnumerable.
 
@Ell boost has iterators that simply iterator over numbers. It's quite simple to imagine a RNG as an iterator.
 
Oh, it uses reserved names.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes it?
 
6:33 PM
Polycode.
@DeadMG Ok, I'm formulating it "If your library has public members that can only be used from internal code, I will hate you."
 
Looks to me like Polycode is what happens when you ask a Lua developer to make a C++ API.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Naw I've been there and it's even worse than that.
 
Using reserved names counts as not playing nice with the standard library, right?
 
@DeadMG A Lua dev with a Java background?
@R.MartinhoFernandes What kind of names?
 
@EtiennedeMartel There's a _PolyExport macro.
 
6:35 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes yes it does
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes That's just not playing nice, period ("full stop", for the UKish among us).
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Well, that guy never even looked at the Standard. What a surprise.
 
huh
 
What about functions with 15 parameters? I'm making that #13.
 
CPU temperature: suddenly 80 degrees celcius
how can it be 100 degrees celcius when I have four fully-functioning case fans and the CPU fan is also operating as intended?
 
6:38 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Actually, that's a OOP fail. I think even the GOF warned against it.
 
you guys are clearly overreacting
 
Or maybe I read that in Fowler's Refactoring.
 
@bamboon That's the point :P
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Oh good god, I hope to never see that.
 
6:39 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Right, because it would have been too painful to make a Light class.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Yeah, when you put it like that, that's from Refactoring, no doubt.
I remember that.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Depends -- I could see that as an overload when simulating a function taking a list of arbitrary length.
 
A little below there's one that takes four bools.
@JerryCoffin None defaulted; various types.
 
Hm, I just defined a ValueValueConverter. I wonder if it's bad.
 
6:42 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes No, none defaulted -- we're talking about overloads (one for single-item list, another for 2 items, on up to whatever absurd limit you want). IIRC, Loki has a couple that take up to 100 parameters. But for different parameter types: they clearly belong in Win32 API hell, calling CreateFile at least 3 times a day.
 
@JerryCoffin Ah, I see.
@JerryCoffin Hehe, CreateFile.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Nah.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes At 7 parameters, already too many.
 
I'll just leave this ^ here
 
@TonyTheLion Well, well. @Cicada might be interested by that.
 
6:45 PM
oh
 
> When I’m not debating global politics with my friends over a soy based beverage, you’ll find me oiled up in my backyard making solo sex tapes.
Who the fuck is this guy.
 
@EtiennedeMartel I must have misread her age then. I thought she was 21, not 12.
 
@JerryCoffin Yeah... that's not how it works with MLP: FIM.
It's weird.
It's very weird.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes You're the one who quoted him without attribution. How would we know?
 
@JerryCoffin You might have missed the whole concept of periphery demographic, then.
 
6:47 PM
@JerryCoffin Yeah, I wasn't expecting an answer, so I didn't use a question mark :P
 
@JerryCoffin Sounds like your typical snarky hipster.
 
@luckymuppet, Australia
When I’m not debating global politics with my friends over a soy based beverage, you’ll find me oiled up in my backyard making solo sex tapes.
462 tweets, 17.6k followers, following 4.5k users
 
damn
 
Ok, that's spam.
 
I accidentally pushed the power button
3
 
6:48 PM
@DeadMG You what?
lol
 
Cracked has some interesting info on MLP:FIM.
> Friendship Is Magic concentrated on character development, humor, conflict and, above all, providing lessons for girls on the complex nature of friendship. But all those elements accidentally perked the interest of another demographic entirely: young adult males.
 
I told you it was weird.
 
@DeadMG How the fuck does that happen?
 
6:51 PM
wqell
I determined that the source of my CPU's insane temperature was a badly mounted heatsink
since it was fine before, I figured I bashed it out of alignment
so I figured I'd just bash it back in to alignment
 
You are an agressive person.
 
unfortunately, the bit of the case nearest my hand is the bit with the power button
 
Loved the build up.
 
and my thumb kinda smacked it
 
6:52 PM
My mom heard me laughing in the kitchen.
 
hey
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Your mom is in the kitchen?
 
@DeadMG What? It's funny.
 
that was the funniest thing I've heard all day
 
@EtiennedeMartel She's finishing dinner.
 
6:52 PM
Ah.
The thing I miss the most since moving out is my mom's cooking.
 
dinner ... was ok. The side dish though was the best. A generous serving of RUM!!!
 
That's not a side dish. Just saying.
 
@thecoshman You really are a pirate.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Different cultures are different, you racist.
 
@EtiennedeMartel because I pillage?
 
You pillage?
 
6:54 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes You'd consider it the main dish then? Only if it were Vodka or Tequila, at least IMO.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes well, I do it respectfully by leaving money behind equivalent to what they think the goods are worth
 
That's not pillaging. Just saying.
 
@thecoshman Because you drink rum while eating.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I know :'(
I think there is a reason why I don'y normally attempt to ration my booze my self
 
> a video of a Russian having his arm blown off by a bomb. Comment was "In Soviet Russia, bombs disarm you."
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