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I FOUND TEH BUG I WINZ
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it can compile?
@Ell I dunno
It's seems more like a collabrative Notepad
Ell
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yeah
ahh I'm burning. its too hot!
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00:06
tits or gtfo.
you sure about that
Order yourself one of these. If you order two, you can probably get free shipping from Amazon! – Cody Gray 1 min ago
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@Mysticial, We were using it earlier :p
But seriously, why put it on something where anyone can mess it up
@chris btw, you can one-box comments by posting a link to them
Why the hell can't I re-tag a question? I used to be able to do so..
@JimNorton what question?
00:09
@Mysticial, Good point. I didn't really think about it.
maybe it has a pending edit
@chris because when I correct other peoples code, they only bring in half of it, and then yell at me when it doesnt compile.
@Mysticial Yeah I bet that's it... the edit link is greyed out
@JimNorton link it?
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Q: C multiple definition error

cjBucketHeadi'm currently doing a simulation of adt in c, and i'm supposed to make a binary search tree invloving strings, i'm currently starting coding but i get this error and it doesnt say where the error comes from, here's the code, can somebody help me. //Tree.h #ifndef tree_h #define tree_h #include &...

00:11
yeah, it has a pending edit
someone is already trying to add the tag and it has one reject vote on it.
@Mysticial I talked to the OP - it IS homework
@Mystical where's your avatar from?
@n2liquid Rio from Sora no Woto
@JimNorton, ftfy then
@Mystical kinda looks like Yuri from Tales of Vesperia
00:15
@n2liquid haven't watched that show. Is it really old?
@chris ftfy ?
> it doesnt say where the error comes from
right.
Wow huge in a C declaration wasn't the easiest thing to google, and I hadn't seen it before. Apparently it's in the same boat as far and near.
@JimNorton, here
@Mystical nope, it's fairly new, but it's actually an RPG (PS3)
@chris oh hehe, thanks
00:17
@chris on the other hand, I see that that link was trolled even before I loaded the page so...
so, anyone seen any good chipmunk porn lately?
@n2liquid btw, when you respond to a message, click on the arrow on the far right.
Tales of Vesperia - 2009, oh it's a movie
I love chipmunks, they are funny. There's an old TV commercial that involved chipmunk tube tops that is stuck in my head for eternity.
@Mystical I'm on mobile, is that available? I can't find it
@n2liquid oh, I dunno. lol
00:20
@Mysticial Do you not get notified with just the @ or something? Typing @M + tab is a lot faster for me :/
Me too, even on desktop
@chris I dunno... try it?
@Mysticial, here
@chris that works
Although responding via the arrow is better since I know what you're responding to
Ah, I guess if they haven't spoken since I'll use @ then
00:22
Yeah, @'ting responds to the latest message
Why did the giraffe cross the road?
What is the SO link that describes how to accept an answer?
I'm writing a comment to a newb who probably doesn't know about accepting answers
just tell him to click the check mark :)
@JimNorton I used to do that, but only if it's denying me a badge. lol
00:27
@Mysticial heh
I have no stake in this one. Just trying to help out a new person to the site.
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Q: How does accepting an answer work?

jjnguy How does accepting an answer work? When should I do it? Why can't I accept my own answers right away? Which answer should I accept? Return to FAQ index

I would comment on that to a few people, but it looks sort of bad seeing as how my answer has a few more votes than the others and none are accepted. Sounds kind of like repwhoring.
Yeah, have several 10+ answers that if accepted would give me a badge... :( Most of the OPs were one-time users. :(
@Mysticial, Which badge? Can't remember. Is it the first to answer and +10 accepted or w/e that is?
Enlightened
Oh, yeah, I just got that one like yesterday lol.
No wonder it's in my memory
00:32
Do badges really do much on SO? Or are they just to motivate us to be active?
I like seeing my badge numbers rise. It's my nature.
I'm one of those people who like completing games, and achievements are part of that.
Yeah I get that.
I'm going to be happy when I finally get my 1K rep
I used to actually try and collect those Enlightened badges. At the time, they were the only "realistically" repeatedly attainable silver badge.
I don't think the badges (will ever) serve a purpose.
Gold badges are hard to "strive" for. It's mostly luck.
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00:35
@JimNorton Badges exist to reward and encourage the kind of positive behavior we want in our community.
Ah, it's from here.
@chris Wonderful. The creators of this site did a great job.
@JimNorton, I really like the way the site is laid out.
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Q: Using placement new

Vivek GThe code below works for me. How could this work? Wouldn't this segfault? char * buffer = new char[100]; float * in_buf = new(buffer) float[100]; Also i got a class like this: class Item { public: Item(int num) { u = new float[num]; v = new float[num]; } float * u; fl...

Is the first one UB?
Seems like it should be.
Uhoh. Bad news for another generation of C++ learners:
Oh no, he's writing another edition... http://www.amazon.com/The-Complete-Reference-5th-Edition/dp/0071634800/ref=dp_ob_title_bk (One can only hope it will be better than his previous books...)
meh gtg for a while
@sehe Probably won't be much better -- but at least in couldn't possibly be much worse!
00:39
@keith.layne Wait... I missed that message. They already have:
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Q: SE Chat Modifications -- Keyboard navigation and commands for chat

Tim Stone Screenshot Use /command shortcuts to perform common chat tasks: See message history inline: Easily preview replied-to messages: And much, much more... About Legends tell of a prolific Meta Stack Overflow chatter who despised using their mouse above all things. In an effort to keep t...

@JerryCoffin Justice systems routinely punish repeat offenders more severely. I think the same should apply here
@sehe Fair enough. I think he's gone beyond the normal death sentence, and into the "to be slowly tortured to death" range.
@sehe You're the bomb.
@keith.layne @keith.layne That script is what I use. But don't forget the 'reply to arrow' that appears on hovering at the right side (!) of a message:
Too many people fail to realize there's more than just the 'down arrow' menu (which sucks)
I never use that one, I'm retarded. I always do the drop-down one. I don't pay attention.
Later all ... thanks for the help again.
00:44
@keith.layne I know stuff. You will do as I say :)
Been a pleasure today
@JimNorton Bye
but then again, I can't be bothered to reply to specific messages, so from now on I'll just YELL AT EVERYBODY IN GENERAL
@JimNorton Later.
@JimNorton good job today, and good luck!
00:46
Ah, better picture:
You should have been playing with your kids on Christmas instead of screenshotting SO!
@keith.layne Lol. That is indeed quite disturbing. I don't recall the layout of our christmass day to explain that.
@sehe booyah, no mouse
Oh, I do remember. I've been spending a few days of the holidays migrating a server and our desktop (Solaris->Debian and Ubuntu->Mint)
We didn't have plans on the first XMas days, so 'it didn't count' :) Also, I think I can find evidence that I did spend family time despite a major fuck up - around that time. Let me find...
00:50
@sehe Is the 4th icon the option to bin it?
I'm not a room owner so I can't see it.
@Mysticial No, it is part of the user script (clipboard thingie)
@sehe what's that?
@Mysticial Well, the clipboard thingie. Scroll up, follow link, read all about it :)
12 mins ago, by sehe
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Q: SE Chat Modifications -- Keyboard navigation and commands for chat

Tim Stone Screenshot Use /command shortcuts to perform common chat tasks: See message history inline: Easily preview replied-to messages: And much, much more... About Legends tell of a prolific Meta Stack Overflow chatter who despised using their mouse above all things. In an effort to keep t...

I gotta get the hang of this.
time for the joys of "rich client platform" programming...it's rich, all right.
ah, it's a chat extension
00:55
Is there a confirmation on the flag button? That would be a bad accident.
@keith.layne For now, just ping one of us 10ks and we can clear it if it happens.
seriously? I've never done it, but that is lame. The button shouldn't be right next to one that you use all the time.
If you click on it, it'll ask you what type of flag you want to cast.
So that kinda counts as a confirmation.
oh, you had me scared for a second. They should make you hunt for the flag button.
@keith.layne Maybe you can just toggle it back off, there is a grace time (like with most flag/vote buttons on SO). It is rather short, IIRC (edit not sure anymore: perhaps there is not 'recovery' in this case)
00:59
well, I'm clearly far too lazy to even remember what we're talking about.
with my luck, the screen would keep scrolling, causing me to flag more and more messages
That would make you wildly popular
yeah, it would be radical
@keith.layne thank you
yessir
crap, I put the default JDK on my project to 1.7, hoping to piss someone off, but now I've pissed myself off, because it's not installed on this computer. Fail.
Instant Java karma.
lol, I just noticed that my gold badges comment was starred...
Most of the non-repeatable gold badges can be obtained without luck, though.
01:08
Am I the only one who thinks that windows should have a better environment variable editor by now? Is there any alternative to that tiny text box?
@keith.layne No you're not... it needs to at least a listbox.
I wonder if that is stored in the registry. If so, Imma be rich!
@keith.layne In fact it is
You need to to tricks in order to refresh it (after editing), though IIRC
There might already be an API in Windows to do it.
Sweet. I know somebody has written a sweet editor in asp.net, who's got the link?
01:11
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Q: Where are environment variables stored in registry?

Brian R. BondyI need to access an environment variable remotely. To do this I think the best way is to read it from registry. Where are environment variables stored in registry?

Though I can imagine that it requires privilege elevation.
hence the asp.net :)
@keith.layne Does this help any? dumb msdn links hate me
That's just the current process, though.
How to not use any global variables: Use environment variables instead.
@chris wut?
@chris I was looking more for an editor that didn't suck donkey balls.
01:20
@Mysticial Just wait, it'll start happening. SO is in for a new era of pure bad code.
Just what I always wanted: a skinnable env var editor.
I can imagine stupid performance questions like: "Why is this code so much slower with the newer version of XX". Answer: Because MS wanted you to use environmental variable instead of global variables.
Or "Why is my code crashing when I run multiple instances of it". Because race-condition on environment variables because XX retarded library started using them instead of normal globals.
Something about this picture looks terribly wrong: imgur.com/G19cV
@chris It's not that bad...
Though I kinda wished Lugia looked a little better than that out of its pokeball.
Groudon and Rayquaza are nice to have following you around.
Well, idk what her and the old man are doing with Lugia, but...
seriously though you get to walk around with a legend, people shouldn't act like everything's normal
01:30
I dunno if you've gotten far enough into the game, but oversized pokemon go back in their pokeballs when you go indoors.
yup, lugia does
That includes most of the large uber legendaries as well as Wailord.
But not snorlax.
And not Gyarados.
think im gonna head to fuschia next for 12/16
So did you kill or catch your box legendary?
catch
it was actually better than normal for a 3 catch rate
01:34
I didn't notice it. It was hard as hell. Which is probably why they made it re-spawn after the elite four.
gen3 was the worst. You're forced to fight it before the 8th badge and it has catch rate 5.
gen4 they bumped up the catch rate to 30.
Kyogre was always a pain to get
omg 30?!
Palkia and Dialga were too easy to catch.
yeah i think i remember that
It's as if pokemon Diamond and Pearl were made for kids.
the games have gotten gradually more linear, too
01:36
Black and White is so linear that it's black and white.
i was so happy when i figured out to give the guy fresh water in gen 1
@chris I remember that. It was hard to figure out.
so are we changing the room description to pokemon any time soon?
can't
lol
None of the room owners seem to be around - nor would they care.
I feel like developing a language composed of pokespeak
oh, that reminds me, this is hilarious to watch the facial expressions on
01:42
oh god... gave up about a min. in...
her face contorts in the weirdest ways when she does some of those
Big thunderstorm outside.
bug thunderstorm would be awesome
Yeah, but unfortunately it's not what's happening.
Bug Thunderstorm - sounds like a pokemon move.
Type: Bug (special)
Power: 120
PP: 5
Hits all pokemon on the battlefield except for the user.
01:47
you guys ever used Inkscape?
man now i want to see mewtwo strikes back and mewtwo returns
@chris I think have them. DL'ed a long time ago...
@keith.layne, Can't say I have.
@Mysticial, lol look at what she does for electabuzz at 4:36
@chris wtf...
I couldn't help thinking what her neighbours must think.
She's screaming at the top of her lungs for half of them.
omg they put a hidden item right in the middle of cycle road
01:56
what is it?
takes a while of going back and forth to get lol
max elixir
I've never been hardcore enough to hunt down hidden items.
@chris That's a pretty big one.
I usually have the dowsing thing open in new areas
PP Max is probably the most valuable of the unbuyable items.
yeah, too bad there are only a few
if even
01:58
You get one easily in gen3.
And then dupe the hell out of it in Emerald.
looks like gen 4 games all have 3
3 in each game?
yeah
I've never found more than 1 per game.
01:59
Master Balls and PP Max are the items that I dupe the most.
i never knew certain people gave you evolution stones in gen 2 until i got one in gen 4
then i looked and realized that was only crystal
Rare Candies I never "consume". I use them for checking IVs. But I never have to buy them since they accumulate after having been through the games so many times.
Stones were common as dirt in DPP.
ah, how do you check ivs? I never really got into that
yeah i know, gold and silver had just 1 of each though
except sun/moon
@chris You level them up without letting them gain any EVs.
Then you use a calculator.
oh, calculator, gotcha
02:01
I usually use the Marriland Ultimate Stat Calculator.
But I've memorized all the formulas. So if I know the pokemon's base stat, I can do it on a pocket calculator or my iPhone.
l2mentalmath
sadly no one does any mental math at all anymore
There's no way in hell I'd do a division in my head.
I'm talking about multiplication tables and stuff
that you should have memorized
Actually, you don't need division by anything other than 10 for calculating stats.
But there's no way I can possibly do a damage calculation in my head.
I don't even remember what the damage formula is...
I think I ev trained an hp+sp def or something like that blissey once, that was fun
got it max happiness before lvl 2
then realized evolution lvl doesn't matter
02:06
IV breeding and then EV training a max speed sweeper is fun but hard.
I did the breeding part for a good nature, didn't take ivs into account
Most of the sweepers I have on my semi-competitive box have at least 3 31-IV stats.
i should check if that's still on the firered game
In HGSS, you can both nature sync and IV sync one stat.
So I usually nature sync, Timid/Jolly. Then IV sync 31-HP. And have it inherit 31 for Speed and Attack or Special Attack.
So that's three 31-IVs that can be obtained from breeding. The rest still need to be randomized.
why does breeding have to take so long
02:09
Cause it's stupid.
i know theres an ability or two for it, but
And how in-breeding works in pokemon... geez...
02:36
Is it sad that I go around advertising boost, but I've never used it in any of my code?
I know it seems impossible, especially considering I have the libraries all set up, but I haven't started using it yet.
03:06
wow, looks like the Lounge actually sleeps, huh
nah busy making pokeparse
1 hour ago, by chris
I feel like developing a language composed of pokespeak
@chris you, but what about the rest?
@chris btw, I don't think the fact that you haven't used Boost affects its quality or applicability or anything, so yeah, what's the problem with advertising? (:
@everybody std::this_thread.wake();
@n2liquid, I can't say from experience that it's good, but I know it is.
03:09
@chris exactly
for (auto &person : roomPeople)
    person.wakeUp();
03:49
room.pingAll();
reply from 169.254.0.1
used to see action here day and night hehe, sleepy people :)
@Fred Drummondville? Woa.
@EtiennedeMartel yea, you're in quebec too ?
03:52
Montréal.
oh I see, cool (si y'avait pas une majorité de monde qui parle anglais on pourrait parler français loll, des plans pour que quelqu'un dise que ca compile pas xD)
@Fred Hmm...right about now, I'm supposed to be saying something about that not compiling? (Sorry, my French is really poor).
@JerryCoffin haha, I was just kidding, french is really awkward, there is no explicit rules, only exceptions so yea, it wouldn't compile xD
Oh, it's not that bad. Spoken French is easy. Written French can be somewhat painful, though.
We get used to this, I personally never had problems writing in french at school but most people still fail to spell it right
a good example would be the classic algorithm to convert an int to its number name (string); in english = easy, in french = if (...) else if (...) else if (...) lol
04:19
what's your occupation guys ? (student / full-time job / mother at home / beer lover :D)
@Fred PHP Developer...................... at least it doesn't give me STD's
But my ultimate goal is game development, japanz-style
oh nice, a lot of competition and shiny opportunities in that field
@Fred you think so? that's pretty optimistic :P
what about you?
@n2liquid if you're good at something and you know how to prove it, opportunities can be awesome, that's what I think :P
04:26
I'm an overall programmer, for my own company, so I'm not on a specific language but into any that can fit the client request as well
@Fred there are some great opportunities.. but I don't think it's because of PHP in particular, more like web development is at its peak; I'd rather be using something else, though; I'm desperately looking for a job using node.js, but I haven't seen any in Brazil yet
@n2liquid maybe webgl / html5-based games could make you happy :) I've seen some 3d physics demos that renders great !
@Fred I'd be hard-pressed to defend PHP for anything but prototyping, though (for which it's a great tool, I think)
@Fred I'm aware.. I've considered making my game project using WebGL, but ended up deciding to go the C++ way again, now with all the C++11 goodness
what I do consider, though, is to use JavaScript as the game's scripting language, using Google's V8
ok
there's the new Dart language too, I tried it once andthe big point is, you can have types
lol
haha, yeah, I didn't take a look at Dart properly yet
but I don't find it quite promising; I haven't seen anything awesome, paradigm-changer in it yet
it's a curious concept though, I want to know how it will unfold; creating a new language for the web is.. quite the undertaking
04:35
lol, web devs are sceptical and so I am, maybe it will be used in some great projects once enough people will have proved it reliable
my bet is it's going niche somehow
the funny thing about recent web development is, IE still can't fully support html5 features and some are still using IE6 (IE5 in worst cases); if next generation games are in html5 canvas / webgl, IE users will complain a lot but will understand XD
for now, we still put some weird fallbacks to allow IE6 to not kill himself
Where did all this hullabaloo of casting the return of malloc come from, anyway?
@chris what?
@Fred that thing is so fucking dreaded, and Microsoft is going to pitiful lengths to reacquire lost market
@Fred have you seen browseryoulovedtohate.com?
@n2liquid I wasn't aware of it lol, thanks
04:43
@n2liquid, Almost everyone you see using malloc casts the result.
@chris in C? maybe because it's invalid and C++ and people are just used to casting void*
casting from void**
invalid in C++* god, what did I drink
@chris Well yeah. I don't care what the pedantics says. "Never cast malloc() in C - ever... blah blah". I don't give a shit. If all it takes is a simple cast to make it compilable in C++, then of course I'll do it.
@Fred it's so fucking horrible because I don't think IE has gotten any better at all compared to other browsers in absolutely any aspect whatsoever, and even if it did get better, I'm sure once they reacquire the market Microsoft is going to do something evil with that power again
@n2liquid Firefox is being more and more of a bloated CPU hog... It's not bad enough to the point where I'm ready to switch to chrome, but it's getting there.
@n2liquid IE9 seems better than his ancestors, at least he behaves similar than ff/chrom/safari when doing basic stuff
04:53
FF should NOT be hogging 100% of an entire core - especially on my 4 GHz overclocked machines.
@Mysticial well.. I've been using Chrome for a while now, and while I don't really notice Firefox draining my resources, I know it has its problems; but in the end I really only use Chrome because it looks better, works really good, implements cutting-edge features, and has a source-code that's cleaner than Firefox/Gecko
@Mysticial (not that I have to deal with that code, but I'm sure easier, newer code generally means less bugs, speedier updates, more developers, hence more creativity going on... overall healthier than Firefox's old codebase)
It only started to be a CPU about two updates ago. Before that it was fine. I had like 20 add-ons too.
Now I have everything disabled except for flash and my auto-refresher. And after about a day or so, each refresh goes to 100% for about 2 seconds.
people have been bitching about Firefox being a resource hog much longer than that, though.. it never bothered me, really
And hangs FF during those 2 seconds.
that's crappy, huh
04:59
@Mysticial FF's point of view is to do many things (that you don't necessary want it to do), but it's sure way better than what IE does that you don't want
It's not the CPU hog part that bothers me. I have enough cores for it hog all it wants. But the fact is that when it's at 100% CPU, all the other FF tabs freeze.
So I'd be scrolling, and then hard freeze for a couple seconds.
@Fred of course it's better than IE, hahahaha :P
I can see the CPU spike...

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