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12:33 AM
@Morwenn Which part?
I also found that at least 8 of my colleagues are going to be at the conference. Fuck.
Not for me of course. But for the general cloud stuff. Since we do use Google Cloud at work.
 
It's gonna be on Youtube as well, probably.
 
ya I know. shuddup
I've never presented in front of more than ~100 people before.
 
Put jokes in the slides but don't read the jokes, this keeps people paying attention
(I usually give 2 conference talks a year)
 
memes, lots of memes
just memes
pi memes
 
Just talk about some other constant
 
12:48 AM
I can calculate zero to a trillion digits.
 
Or make completely unsubstantiated statements like "AVX512" is a reasonable value proposition.
 
@Mikhail lol, so stupid
 
Thank you, I made it
 
It made me laugh :)
 
1:01 AM
Until you somewhat walk into a parallel universe with whole different set of maths rules and different values for constants such as e & pi.
I am doing too many things, I am no longer in the top 5% for the exercise status :/
 
1:53 AM
The suspect who killed 49 people in New Zealand is an Australian citizen. This looks like a diplomatic/judicial complication, albeit, on a small scale.
 
2:43 AM
@Morwenn Chicken, avocado sandwich? Ramen noodles (instant) with green leaves (pre-washed & packed) and roasted beef bought from supermarket. Wrap - meat of choice + lettuce, tomato & onion?
 
 
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4:11 AM
What would happen if we let class my_composite_class_with_primitives : some_custom_class, int, float... work?
Also, would it mean the class is convertible to floats or just that it stores members that are also float, int?
 
 
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8:09 AM
If hoarding is a psychological disorder, museum curators should be put into mental hospitals.
Humans hoard, countries hoard. #ProHoarding
 
8:45 AM
You know the land is draught affected when the only significant plantation on it was cactus.
 
 
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11:41 AM
Thank you all for your answers for my "simple food when you're lazy" question, it made me realize once more that I don't have any meat at home though x)
 
Vege ramen or wrap? It's healthy :p
 
@Mysticial The part about silent hardware bugs was nice, but the one that surprised me the most in the end and made me a bit sad abut all your work was the one about how CPU wasn't an issue anymore for pi and how network became the bottle neck ^^'
Also I liked that you're very honest about the shortcomings about your own tech
 
@Morwenn Can you linkage?
 
?
 
the article
 
11:48 AM
hum, I can find it, it's probably on numbersworld
@TelKitty that's some stylish cactus for someone like me who never gets to see any
well, outside at least
 
I did google search on this picture I have taken myself, 100% accuracy. It's an 'eastern prickly pear'. And according to stackexchange, its fruit is edible :p
 
nice
I like how we still decided to call that pears
 
@Morwenn I don't usually see cactus like this around where I live, but you go west inland, weather becomes dry and cactus is common. This was taken on a piece of rural land I visited yesterday. Apparently they didn't have any rain since Christmas.
I actually wanted to try the fruit, but I didn't know what it was and didn't know whether it's poisonous :p
 
"west inland" is not a valid term here x)
how do you cook those?
 
12:09 PM
That website looks more legit than I thought considering the amount of stuff the pear is supposed to fix x)
 
12:43 PM
@TelKitty You know you listed the "insufficient evidence" ones right?
 
 
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9:34 PM
Anybody working on anything fun? Finishing up a paper on finding influential cells in a population using their correlation among neighbors.
 
10:01 PM
 
10:39 PM
@Morwenn Yeah. I haven't done much in the way of CPU optimizations in a year now. Mostly for this reason and that I've hit "memory-optimal" limit.
 
One of the interesting things about the cloud PI computation was that it was comparably cheap to get the PI record (maybe $2k?) because you aren't paying for local network traffic. Although you'd pay for outbound/inbound traffic. I wonder if they will start charging for that kind of traffic. For example, you aren't charged for wearing the fuck out their SSDs, but you could be.
 
@Mikhail neat. What's the phase over? Like is separating the polarization of the light?
 
@PeterT I've done that before, but really the phase is phase shift between the transmitted (DC) and scattered (AC) light. So the phase shift is almost like a height map.
@Mysticial Actually I'd really like to see an estimate of the cost of the computation.
 
HOLY SHIT :-)
 
10:48 PM
I pulled up some numbers for Google Cloud Platform server and storage pricing to see how much it would cost a layperson to do the 31.4 trillion Pi calc. I didn't look into network costs, or extra time for configs/restart - just raw computation time. I get a price of $173,335.76
 
Sounds like an abysmal failure from a cost perspective, as you can build something, like I just finished building for around $15k.
So the real issue is the cost of the SSD space?
So, you can online 250 TB of SSD for around $50k (NSF pays me)
One wonders if the SSDs were necessary as the interconnect wasn't that good.
If they had used normal disks, would have been $10k a month on Google's cloud vs, $50k
 
Like I said in the forum post, it's far from efficient.
So if there's a next time, I'd expect it to be much more cost effective.
 
So, if you did it on Cray's Blue Waters, you would have been able to saturate the link which would reduce the total computation time and saved money.
 
What's the bandwidth for a single node?
 
I've gotten around 10 Gbps, on an older generation.
 
11:04 PM
That's less than GCP.
 
sorry you have 14 of those
 
oh
 
Injection bandwidth is 10 GB/s for each node in the Trinity system.
Although in practice its a little bit harder because you need to have multiple threads/mpi processes going to achieve it, as well as have the right placement/topology
 
I like how Cray sounds different now that it's colloquially used for "Crazy" :P
 
In terms of usability its probably easier to do it on a real HPC system because the storage shows up as one single drive, and you use lustre user space commands to "bless" the folder with the IO topology (stripes, for example)
The fun part is that Blue Waters has the same cost for U of I and affiliated companies (John Deer?) as EC2 (although 10x too much for me).
 

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