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So, anybody working on anything cool?
Do you ask that every friday? I feel like its always friday when I see you ask that
Yes
I found out (experimentally) that sexed sperm is remarkably uniform both in terms of sperm, fertility outcomes, and resulting animals. The later part is wacky.
 
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07:46
I got my algorithm down from O(n^6) to O(n^5), I am the greatest
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Did the constant gain a factor of 10000?
Naw it's all physics :-)
Ended up that you and I live in a hologram, so we can drop a dimension
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You can probably drop another 2 dimensions and make the hologram more realistic in the process.
08:02
So the physics of reality, Electron and other webscale technologies not widstanding, let's each dimension interfere with another dimension. Yet time harmonic waves are hyoerplanes, so we get O(n^2*(D-1)//2).
So, a plane wave in R3 is unequally described by its two dimensional direction.
Sorry the word unequally should be omitted.
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You lost me at "Electron" which I presume has nothing to do with electrons.
No, Electron is this a mix of Chrominum and Node.js :-)
Basically reality is made of plain waves, which are hyperplanes. This means they have one less dimension then the space they live in. So the all to all algorithm were o(n^3 time n^3). According to my derivations should o(n^2 times n^2 times n)
So. The various foreign nationals that I work with would normally call it a day at the formula, but I need to experimentally validate my forward and backwards model.
 
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15:11
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Alors, c'est la bagarre!
Oh joy. App share to clipboard is broken then
@HansPassant with all due respect, this is spreading FUD. I understand you're simply unaware of the Boost Interprocess library, but the usage here is perfectly fine (you have a valid intuition with respect to racing around open_or_create but that's clearly not the issue here and unrelated to the question). For the OP: I'll look at this layer when I'm around a computer. (Are you by any chance running multiple copies simultaneously?) — sehe 6 mins ago
There's always a way.
Holy cow. I just spent 40 minutes with Microsoft support just to find out I friggin' need to reinstall a different edition of Windows to be able to re-activate.
You know, they sure make PAYING for your operating system as painful as possible. Morons.
You'd think they have a simple upgrade path to move an existing installation to an SSD disk.
But no. Because, you know, who would want that? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
That's weeks of trying to find the time to actually be at the phone and the computer (it's my mom's obviously). So the above phone times do not include the number of times she tried phone activation (support) herself.
15:52
I admire your dedication.
16:05
@sehe I think if you by a pre-built system with Windows, the licence is basically for that exact hardware, so moving to another is a no-no. Which I find so strange
16:22
@thecoshman the hardware is unmodified. The SSD was there all the time (but still contained the Linux installation she'd been using for 10 years. Yeah. Ironic)
It's just stupid ass that moving the partition infixably breaks the system and reinstalling breaks the licensing.
17:02
Yeah, doing anything 'scary' like that tends to upset the licencing
 
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@sehe I always hated per-machine licencing, per-user or concurrent user should be how its done
 
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20:08
> You can reach a point with Lisp where, between the conceptual simplicity, the large libraries, and the customization of macros, you are able to write only code that matters. And, once there, you are able to achieve a very high degree of focus, such as you would when playing Go, or playing a musical instrument, or meditating. And then, as with those activities, there can be a feeling of elation that accompanies that mental state of focus.
I wish I could play Go :-D source
Lol no generics (even in Clojure)
@Mikhail What purpose would Generics have in a dynamically typed language?
20:23
@fredoverflow Making it less dynamically typed and therefore a vague stab in the direction of not shit?
@Puppy Static types are a prerequisite for Generics. Clojure doesn't have static types, so Generics for Clojure makes zero sense. Mikhail was probably trolling, and I just didn't get it.
he does do that a lot
you could check the generic contracts at runtime?
Hm, interesting idea.
in any case, I think that his point is still fundamentally valid
you're just excusing it being pretty shit by it being really shit
instead of only being pretty shit
Static typing simply doesn't fit Clojure's design goals. If you don't like dynamically typed languages, that's okay. I haven't done any significant amount of work in dynamically typed languages, so I'm still on the fence.
20:30
that sounds like they don't have a design goal of not being really shit
Python static type checking saved one of my large projects
I didn't even know Python has static types. Is it a recent feature? Optional?
Yes, recent but extremely useful, especially when you come back to a python project with 16k line
Also I think js has been expanded with static type checking, not sure how that turned out.
they turn Javascript from a really, really shit language into just quite a shit language
At least you acknowledge JavaScript being a language ;)
20:37
Remember those hackernews posts where people were paid to port coffee script to the newest Java script standard?
no
I'm pretty sure that static type checking isn't part of any of the JS standards, it's part of JS transpilers really like Flow and Typescript
20:54
.instagram.com/mayapolarbear /cc @JerryCoffin
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@Borgleader Cute and almost amazingly well trained/disciplined.
 
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What's wrong with C++, again?
everything
Well, at least they fixed bools in C++17...
how were they broken?
vector<bool> broken -> write new language
23:32
@fredoverflow rails more against the mentality that lead to the current state of C++ (and various languages)
@ratchetfreak You could set a bool to true via ++ and to false via --
he mentions raii leading to cache misses because it forces a general allocator on you
D:
I always use that feature!
(not)
but ++ on true was ub I guess
cause if it just stayed to true then it's no big deal
Also bool++ is deprecated, and compiles down to mov eax, 1
23:36
Oh wait, bool-- never existed?
gcc and clang say its "forbidden"
i guess you dont need --
if you define ++ as v = !v;
Why would anybody ever write ++b instead of b=1?
because he hates the auto conversion from int to bool
and is too lazy to spell out true
Perhaps its possible to cook up some template case where ++T
23:42
using a bool as iterator
I've done that before :-/
@fredoverflow ITYM b=true
lol [(+) (*)] evaluates to [0 1] in Clojure, cute
@Borgleader Isn't that the same thing for bool?
@fredoverflow Probably, but if it was a code review and I saw bool b = 1; I'd have it changed :P
One thing missing from C++ is a mechanism for inherited classes to run a base class function after construction. Instead you have to do some kind of factory pattern crap.
23:45
@Borgleader ...to ++b? ;)
@Mikhail Can you elaborate with a concrete example?
class microscope_xy_drive_virtual final: public scope_xy_drive
{
public:
	microscope_xy_drive_virtual()
	{
		xy_current_ = scope_location_xy(0, 0);
		common_post_constructor();
	}
I wish we had super when possible
from some code I'm working on, common_post_constructor() should be in a factory but I'm not paid to write code (or really not paid at all):-/
In his book, Bjarne mentions this almost made it into C++

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