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12:01
CSS doesn't even solve damn equations.
1-step recipe to simplify tree structures: just leaf while you're a head
Good luck if it's a forest: I saw the logs
@RadekSlupik So, you can't find the root of the problem with css
@jalf I prefer CoffeeScript over JavaScript; it removes much of the silliness, like == —> ===.
@sehe :P
@RadekSlupik REMOVE [OWL] ∈ { THE SILLY NEST }
@sehe How's that related to owls?
In assembly, I comment every single sodding line.
12:06
lol lol lol lol
I expected "fap fap fap fap".
no, it's not a fap occasion
Phonetically and meme-ically.
Never let the lame pun fry-day or the blind C tomorrow
I cannot.
That's called impotence.
You may want to see your doctor about that
sbi
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> There's this one thing that I can do with my tongue, that drives men crazy...
> I never stop TALKING. — Debbie Howard
At least you don't whine like the slaves of the tall king.
12:13
That's deeeeeep.
Fried.
I'm wondering how hard Hexapoda is going to crash if I configure it to use the Git repository of the Linux kernel due to not having any pagination yet.
The kernel has had paging for ages
But it has over a million commits.
The repository alone (the .git directory) is over a GB in size.
And over a trillion vomits
I'm going to clone the kernel.
12:16
According to many idiots, MD5 is the best compression algorithm ever.
MD5 is broken
Sweet lord. What's with this network, it prevents me from doing any net work
I do say, MD5 is broken!
damn it
12:18
Not a good riposte
@sehe this place has prevented me from doing work for years
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% git clone git://github.com/torvalds/linux.git
Cloning into 'linux'...
remote: Counting objects: 869054
Meh, still counting.
why you cloning the linux kernel sources?
References don't count. Cloning implies pass by value.
@TonyTheLion I want to know if Hexapoda can handle a large giant repository.
12:19
Why should not a chicken cross the road?
It would be a fowl proceeding.
oh gawd
the lame puns never end
I got over it an hour ago
@RadekSlupik I wouldn't touch a giant with a six-foot pole
Damn that one is good ^ - now star it bitches
I don't get it.
nope
I'm not in a star mood
I'm going to add some pagination first.
12:21
@RadekSlupik I won't round it out. I'm hexa gone all ready :)
I don't want Ruby to eat a few GBs of RAM.
Hi :)
@sehe Oh now I get it. :P
@RadekSlupik And it's good advice too. I wouldn't touch a giant prick like that
@RadekSlupik Even Berlusconi nows that Ruby's got a knack of biting a bit more than she can chew.
Zzz. Is everybody asleep now?
I could this with my eyes closed
12:39
The amount of lame puns is too damn high :)
You sure sound asleep
@sehe it's just 20:40 here
(or probably 12:40 at gmt+0)
VLARGH!"#=€!)"= 2€!"#! SEGFAULTZ.
Oooh. You're never gonna win that unless a miracle happens.
I mean, you're 20 points behind
@ScarletAmaranth I suppose when two grandmasters play their "A" game, that would be called top draw
Anyways, I play tennis. And I hate drawn games. Love means Nothing to me
I'm learning about std::thread. Which reference to use when looking for c++11? Msdn?
12:49
cppreference.com
that's what I use right now
I want to punish this guy for his arrogance: stackoverflow.com/questions/8750331/…
@Nils FDIS
Oh, don't fret it.
Premature threading is the most rude of evil
@rubenvb There is no more punishment than the ignorance itself
@Nils lol msdn
@sehe he's being a jerk to anyone trying to answer his stupid questions.
12:52
What a douche.
@Nils also, R. Martinho Fernandez has an up to date build of the C++ standard here: dl.dropbox.com/u/13779444/c%2B%2B-std.pdf
Hh, dat guy.
(it's linked from his profile page if you're worried about random links on the internet)
@rubenvb thx mine is still from 11
@sehe no, I should just wait for a while, there is a bug with integer overflow
12:54
I wonder what they changed, too bad I don't know how to diff two pdfs.
Waving white flags might help. Also, -c or -E are definitely known to improve compile times. In all cases: show us some code and we can begin to hint on ways to improve build times. — sehe 13 secs ago
@Nils you should diff the repo of sources, duh!
@ScarletAmaranth "Jonr". Can't help but think he is a big b*ner
@Nils github.com/cplusplus/draft it goes back four months
ah wow
didn't know that they are on github!
12:57
everything's on github
even Linus.
two followers
yeah every git is on github
lol
Santa uses giddyup
But that's because he prefers moose to git
How to compile
make full (IIRC)
don't you just love latex
@sehe what's this censorship about?
he was literally saying what he had to do
bad-joke-wise :p
No need to reproduce the build instructions here, with crappy markup. I think I'd not have done anything if it were actually readable
IIRC you were supposed to pay for the C++ std
@Nils this ain't the standard, really. It's already C++vnext
@Nils You're supposed to pay for he official document from ISO. The standard is rather open
Anyways, if you use the standard or C++ you're already paying the highest price :)
13:02
Yeah but the final draft I have from last year is probably quite close to the official document, right?
Ah. Let me get my crystal ball...
You're probably referring to n3242.pdf
Yeah that's pretty good
exactly
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Q: Where do I find the current C or C++ standard documents?

ChristofferFor many questions, especially for C-related ones, the answer seems to be found in "the standard". However, where do we find that - online? Googling can sometimes feel futile, again especially for the C standards, since they are drowned in the flood of discussions on programming forums ;) To ge...

use torrents...
My wife always says, torrents make her wet
13:09
@sehe use r martinho fernandez's build. sheesh
@sehe What? Really?
@rubenvb Scroll up
my girl probably doesn't even know what a torrent is
@Nils Yup. They make me wet too. Torrent suck
yeah well if you fall into one..
13:14
Why is it possible to omit template parameters for std::ref?
@Nils Why not?
Default template arguments and type deduction. In this case, the latter
It's a function specifically so you can omit template parameter. The magic type is std::reference_wrapper.
13:33
Hi.
Guys, what standard/man page/document defines the _vsnprintf_r function?
Google does not help, it is suggesting the _r is a typo and suggests the _s MSVC variants.
POSIX. _r means it's reentrant.
need advice on creating a dll in c++
is there an existing dll that retrieves data from an MYSQL database that is online
any suggestions? btw i am new to creating dll ..tks
Google is this way
@JackyBoi rtfm? read textbooks, language manual, msdn, etc?
haha rtfm means what i think it is? something new learned today (Read the f8&* manual?)
nah man i am basically a C# guy
but developing a dll for mt4 trading platform is anyone aware of it?
13:38
oh... well, C# is way better than J***
i tried google but not sure which is the right one and uptodate..tks
@JackyBoi msdn.com will tell you how to create DLLs
yes after reading those articles itself i decided that i needed a dll
@JackyBoi probably you should find anything about that platform
13:45
Where do I get instance of struct _reent?
@JackyBoi Look it up in the same dictionary that you got 'tks' from. tks
And plonk
@wilx sys/reent.h?
my level of disgust for the US government just reached new highs today
did you know that they blackmailed the WHO into keeping health recommendations out of their report into obesity because of their commercial interests?
screw Al-Qaeda, the US is the biggest and most problematic terrorist organization of the 21st century
@DeadMG At least the US government can be ignored by outsiders and for a great part citizens.
hard to say that if you A) use the internet, B) are affected by obesity, or C) economic instability
13:54
_global_impure_ptr and _impure_ptr?
Huh,
@DeadMG Well. I have the solution. They can all get high on thinner
Problemo solvo. Welcome to Republica Puntastica
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A: Why not to use boost::mutex within shared memory compared to boost::interprocess_mutex?

Tony The LionRegarding point 3: Your boost::mutex wouldn't be visible to your other process. A interprocess mutex uses a system globally named object that can be accessed by another process, afaik, a boost::mutex does not. Your boost::mutex created in shared memory, may in Windows for example, have a HANDLE...

am I full of shit here?
no
here's another example- POSIX mutexes are identified by their address, which is different between processes
can I add that to my answer
of course]#
assuming you pay the Puppy Licence
14:02
Also, wrong room.
oh bugger
@DeadMG I credited you for that in my answer
9 messages moved from Kyrostat
thanks
just wanted to do that and then you did it
You know guys, I was promised lame puns today, and I'm not leaving until I get them.
because I'm faster, smarter, and stronger than you
14:04
What is Kyrostat?
user784668
@StackedCrooked A secret project.
@Hans You can scroll upwards and find some.
Oooh, Kryostat is that game the C++ lounge is making in their template wankery spare time
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No! I want fresh puns! Hot, freshly baked puns!
that game has really made lounge a quite place
I can't peddle my punts all day
I've done my share
14:06
Yeah I can confirm, @sehe's done his share ^^
@bamboon yes, this is quite a place
so that's where all the smartasses went
Smartasses :) ? Not cool.
tis a silly place
OK, then
So that's where all the smartypantses went.
14:10
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Q: C++ single constructor template specialization

gexicideSorry if this is a dupe. There are many similar questions but it seems that none really addresses this problem. They are all a bit different. So what I want to achieve: Consider a template class X<T>. Now, I want that an extra constructor extists for a specific instanciattion of that templ...

I'm thinking he's ruled out all possible solutions
but I may be wrong
@StackedCrooked I had this yesterday. And damn it tasted good.
@ScarletAmaranth So, how do you explain that "Ah! Smartalec Rant" is an anagram of your name, Scarlet Amaranth?
Coincidence?
I think not.
I know this.
@Hans You must be new here
The man has a pint.
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I'll have a pint too, please.
see that. That was a pun. A bad one at that. But still a pun.
14:13
@sehe You must be very bored :)
I want to collapse in a heap for an hour
but no! Did I memorize how to internationalize websites in Apache or MySQL? Fuck no I didn't!
@DeadMG then at least your head will be on top!
user784668
Why there's no option for flagging chat messages as "bullshit"?
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@Fanael just say bullshit and direct your message to the message in question.
@Fanael What? Do you think the mods are idiots?
user784668
14:15
@sehe Stop insulting idiots.
Does any official stackoverflow-iphone app exist?
@ManofOneWay No, but they do have a mobile version of the site
What a curious connection "Any" <--> "official"
user784668
@ManofOneWay Yes, it's called $BROWSER.
14:18
56
Q: Droidstack for Android - now with chat support!

Felix Current status I'm not actively maintaining Droidstack anymore, I guess real life just got in the way. Being in college and having a full time programming job leaves no room for hobby projects. Also, ever since the mobile-optimized web UI launched, I felt there was no need for an app like thi...

@ScarletAmaranth I've come back specifically to chastise @sehe for not getting this
oh also hello
@stdOrgnlDave Liar. You just received this not if vacation :)
yes. and I read it. and replied to the part you didn't get.
I'm building MinGW-w64 GCC 4.7.1 as we speak btw, if anyone's interested.
follow the link back
@rubenvb is that even possible?
14:20
@stdOrgnlDave why wouldn't it be?
@stdOrgnlDave Don't you think I did that? I'm on fire, remember
@rubenvb Yarr yarr, I'll snatch it :)
It was released yesterday.
@rubenvb I'm note sure Windows can hold the awesomeness
Still building, it'll be another hour or three depending on if I run into anything unexpected.
@stdOrgnlDave lol
14:21
@sehe so is a certain person who also is into archery, who is named after a tuber..
user784668
@stdOrgnlDave Possible, but uninteresting. It seems that all they've done is downgrading some P2 regressions to P3 ones. Like in most bugfix releases.
@stdOrgnlDave Ahahaha. Lemme see
does Visual Studio 2012 beta support constexpr yet?
@stdOrgnlDave haha, no.
14:22
no constexpr, no initializer list, no variadic templates
actually, the last one I'm not quite sure about with the RC.
are you fucking kidding me
no constexpr
no constexpr
HOW WILL MY BYTECODE INTERPRETER RUN ON VS2012
it won't, use MinGW-w64 GCC 4.7.1
@stdOrgnlDave At least intellisense doesn't bitch about range based fors ;)
14:23
or 4.7.0 (or 4.6.3 or 4.5.3) until I get the sucker built
@sehe alexis is a tuber?
user784668
Or use Clang.
user784668
Or write your own compiler.
user784668
The world really needs yet another C++ compiler.
@rubenvb I will gladly take a copy from you if the process is as hard as you make it sound, for certain values of hard that are defined as "I'm lazy"
@Fanael if it fucking supports C++11 then yes the world damn well does need yet another C++ compiler
user784668
14:25
@stdOrgnlDave So go write one!
@stdOrgnlDave @Jesus Is A Jerk
@stdOrgnlDave oh yes, building GCC properly is hard. Took me half a year and about a dozen builds to get all the details worked out.
I think I forgot one last detail too
@sehe I really thought, given the popularity, that "archery on fire tuber" would bring up Katniss the girl on fire as #1 hit....my bad
FUCK.
Let's rebuild this sucker
user784668
14:27
@rubenvb What did you forget?
@Fanael --with-gnu-ld so gcc can cope with a gazillion object files on one linker command
@stdOrgnlDave Pretty
you know what the problem is? all we have is C++ compilers. we need C++11 compilers. fuck the C++ compilers.
user784668
@rubenvb Uhm, is it really needed? I never pass that to GCC's configure but the thing works.
user784668
@stdOrgnlDave C++11 is C++. But people should become aware that C++03 is not C++ anymore.
14:29
hey, I've not complained about much today. €500 electricity bill! Fucking hell
yes, time to complain. you assholes, come join me in Tribes Ascend if you know what's good for you, it kicks ass
@FredOverflow that does strike me as odd that it is 2^14 variables...
TIL: Jesus Is A {Jerk|Dick|Asshole}. Since 2010, actually
@thecoshman Just for today? You have my respect
@Fanael you mean all my old C++03 code might as well be written in FORTRAN?
@sehe they have been over estimating for a while, guy came around the other day to get a proper reading. I knew it was coming one day
user784668
@stdOrgnlDave Or worse, in Java.
14:33
@Fanael OMFG QUICK must go put range-based fors in, change my templates to be variadic, be constexpr-correct and...wait... fuck Microsoft
@Fanael it's a detail, I've never run into an issue, but someone has: sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=29339395
so now I build with --with-gnu-ld --with-gnu-as just to be sure. I don't question the GCC build process, it's like Russia.
It questions you.
hi, can somebody tell why this piece of code gives an error in Turbo C++ (in other IDEs it doesn't) ("illegal command: notepad") :

system("notepad D:\FORTRAN.txt");
@sehe I didn't have any hope of figuring out what all his attempts to sound like a dying dog meant, so I looked up the lyrics. plyrics.com/lyrics/alexisonfire/pulmonaryarchery.html . seriously.
@ddacot because turbo C++.
And btw, IDEs don't compile code.
@rubenvb what if it's Soviet Russia?
14:36
@rubenvb so helpful... you are cool bro'..
I have to go, bye
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@stdOrgnlDave Then the code would compile the compiler.
anyone else?..
@stdOrgnlDave you have to go buy more puns?
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@ddacot "notepad.exe ..."? (@ruben is right, BTW. That compiler is ancient even by my standards. Get rid of it now and download something decently new.)
14:38
@ddacot That is helpful. I wasn't kidding. Turbo C++ sucks.
@ddacot use absolute path, set PATH or hold a execvp family function.
@rubenvb i know Turbo c++ sucks, i'm not using it, i just asked.
@rubenvb well. It didn't suck in 1991
@sehe That's why I used the present tense. See? Grammar.
@sbi that line means: open D:\fortran.txt in notepad..
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14:39
@ddacot If you don't use Turbo C++, then how do you know this gives an error?
oh my.
derailment on the way.
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@ddacot Note the .exe in my reply.
@EtiennedeMartel It's one of the classics!
@ddacot Nope. It means, syntax error. At the very least system("notepad D:\\fortran.txt")
@StackedCrooked You wouldn't believe how hard to find those are here.
14:42
@ddacot Wait a second. I have a few questions for you too, I can 'just ask' :)
@sehe ask)
@EtiennedeMartel What. Is the fridge light broken?
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@sehe Note the avatar. Hopeless case.
Are you serious Rochefort Trappist is hard to find?
hahahahaha
hopeless foreigners
@sehe Har har.
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14:44
@rubenvb Well, he lives in Quebec, no?
@sbi Hey, I like coffee :)
@sbi hence my "hopeless foreigners"
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@sehe Yeah, but from here this looks like a certain brand.
ICS on HTC Legend is smooth, but it often needs to load 0,5-1 second until it does anything.
Too bad
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@rubenvb Is that an official ICS release for that phone or did you root your phone and did it yourself?
14:46
@sbi lol official. It's a CM9 port. It's not even official by CM standards :( HTC Legend is from 2010.
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@rubenvb Ah. I am still considering rooting my phone, but so far haven't dared yet.
@sbi what phone?
rooting is not as dangerous as some make it sound.
but I'd only do it if there was official CM support for my device.
@sbi I've rooted it. Just serves as an extra security vulnerability though. I only ever use it to ssh into the phone.
@rubenvb Ah, hopless foreigners. No wonder the beer is hard to find
@sbi You should correct your system date, you know
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14:50
@rubenvb ...for those phones where there's a ready-to-use app/program you can use to do that. Last time I looked, google came up pretty empty-handed for the Sonic.
@sbi there's no CM either.
@rubenvb That thing has to cross an ocean.
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@rubenvb There wasn't when I looked about two months ago. It might have improved by now, though. The phone was pretty new then.
@rubenvb Oh.
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@sehe This might surprise you, but being unable to take a picture of my phone using my phone, I got a pic from google instead.
14:54
@sbi: there seems to only be an unofficial port: forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/29865-huawei-sonic-u8650
@sbi That's a hurricane relief
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@rubenvb Mhmm. I have seen a checklist for doing this, which failed to work for me (phone complained about something not being signed the way it should have been), and it might have been this one. Anyway, I added it to my link list on the topic. I might try to do that in two weeks, when all my kids are away with their mothers, and I'll have nearly unlimited time at my hands. Harhar.
@sbi In all honesty, the phone isn't popular at all, you're not in for a lot of luck IMHO.
"one cat a time"
wtf
user784668
14:56
@sehe Wrong channel.
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@rubenvb A shame, really. It's a damn good phone for its price.
@sbi I believe you. The Legend was overpriced, but there wasn't much Sense-less Android out there at the time. (this was Android 2.1)
We're both lacking RAM.
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@sehe I. Am. Wow.
@rubenvb Yeah, I definitely lack RAM. It's a problem of age. Sigh.
(Incidentally, my phone could do with a lot more RAM, too.)
@sbi lol.
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Anyway, I really gotta go now and pick of the wee-est one. I'll turn this machine again to watch tonight's second game with one of my sons. See you guys!
14:59
@sbi what CPU is in that? The website doesn't say. It looks very similar to my Legend.

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