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22:03
not sure if it'd actually be worth it, though
man, I love lockless queues
:P
@DeadMG Oh, you have PPL.
/winner
yes, I believe so
are you going to experiment with my code?
@DeadMG Ah, no. I was just wondering.
lol
Your code sucks.
No alias templates => sucks.
:P
well I did whip it up in what's pretty much pseudo-code
:P
but then I did crack out that superb memory arena
You can pass loops as arguments to functions in my language.
maybe I just have a knack for seeing things
Wut.
WTF is a loop as an entity that you can pass around?
bar = func::bind(lang::while, weak -> i < 10, func::_1) # Need something better.
foo(bar)
22:13
thinking about a loop as a function, like it does something... has sense, but why to pass just a loop?
aaarrghh y u bind? so bad
@RadekdaknokSlupik So, you can pass "functions"?
Just an example.
@RMartinhoFernandes Ehm…
yeah.
bar = f(x) { lang::while(weak -> i < 10, x); };
mine is about a mile shorter and significantly easier to understand
bar = while (weak -> i < 10)
Partial application FTW.
while (expr) stmt will be syntactic sugar for lang::while(weak -> return (expr), weak -> {stmt}).
Still need to deal with lang::while using a reserved word as an identifier. Oh well.
Make everything a contextual keyword.
Good luck with the parser.
lang::__while
xD
lol
There's a reason they reserved stuff with double underscores in C++: it's just plain fucking ugly, so no one will complain.
I do that too.
I considered it
but then I just added access specifiers to namespaces, like a sane person
> § 1.2.3.4 Identifiers starting with two underscores are reserved for the implementation.
Who needs loops when there's tail recursion.
who needs tail recursion when there's loops?
@RadekdaknokSlupik That's just silly. You don't need to reserve anything.
The implementation can have access to magic.
Loops are so imperative.
There needs to be magic, and I don't want the programmer to accidentally use the magic.
22:20
VIDEOS Y U NO PLAY
Better if you give the users that ability too, but there's no point in stripping the implementation of it.
@RadekdaknokSlupik Then use private:.
The implementation is free to choose how to implement things.
Right, because there will ever be another implementation of your toy language.
@RadekdaknokSlupik The "magic" I was referring to was the ability to use invisible identifiers.
@CatPlusPlus v2!
Put them in an internal module.
I hate having 24 votes. Can someone downvote or upvote? ;)
That's an option, and so is having reserved identifiers.
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Q: What's the point of const void?

FredOverflowApparently, it is possible to declare a function returning const void: const void foo() { } g++ seems to consider the const important, because the following code does not compile: #include <type_traits> static_assert(std::is_same<void(), const void()>::value, "const matters"); ...

22:27
A downvote for you sir.
Okay sorry. :P
My vote on that is too old.
@FredOverflow const void is the same as const int here
the const has the same insignificance when calling the function
We have nothing (void). And it's pretty constant. Seems legit :)
const doesn't mean constant.
But it looks neat in this scenario :)
22:38
troy and abed in the morNIIING!
lol
Haven't watched Community in ages.
Since December, I think.
there's no Paintball episode in Season 3
it's irking
after S1 and S2 I was so looking forward to it
but there is a fairly epic season end
No spoilers, plix.
22:39
hey, it's been six months since December, if you want to watch then get cracking :P
I'm going through Game of Thrones right now.
ah
couldn't get into the novels so never tried the TV
I'm still waiting for the next season of SGU, color me s_/*/*/
@CaptainGiraffe There's gonna be a next season?
thought they canned it after two
Yeah, me too.
22:41
also it's been like, 30 months since SGU stopped airing, if itwas gonna come back it would have done
besides, let's face it, SGU was no Battlestar Galactica
@DeadMG Yep, not gonna happen
@DeadMG SGU didn't get a crappy ending.
:P
yeah, it didn't get any ending :P
seriously though, BSG was fun whilst it lasted
still amazed that stuff like CSI or Law and Order or House can go on for infinity seasons and BSG gets only four
but I guess that's just the way it is
like how COD makes infinity dollars but nobody makes System Shock 3
22:45
@DeadMG Because there's no overarching plot.
very true
but let's face it, BSG could have done with a little less overarching plot in some areas...
If something like BSG goes on forever, it gets boring.
It's like "Are we there yet?"
Which in the case of BSG, fits nicely actually.
mmm
it's true that there are some things which should not be kept up forever
but there are some things which are kinda fundamental and don't really need to change to keep going
Going for something specific?
no, I mean, don't need to change to do well
22:48
Me y u suck at designing languages.
@DeadMG AAA games are incredibly expensive to make. The less risks a publisher takes, the better. That's not helped by the fact that a game that takes no risks still sells quite well.
I'd be pretty happy with ten seasons of the same kind of thing S1 and S2 had going
@EtiennedeMartel Which is why indie gaming is fucking awesome.
@DeadMG Gosh.
I wouldn't.
You can't feed me "more of the same" for long.
@DeadMG Well, many of them are physics puzzlers about little children losing their innocence in a hostile world.
but then, I also skip past parts of films and TV shows
@EtiennedeMartel And some of them are fucking awesome. Cue Uplink, for example.
That's old.
also, I ate the same thing for breakfast every day for the last eighteen months
@EtiennedeMartel True. I'm not actually that active in the indie gaming scene right now.
but there's also stuff like Torchlight
and World of Goo
what is your favorite video game ever?
Bastion reminded me that the thing I hate the most with indie games is that so many of them are way too fucking short.
22:50
System Shock 2
Same thing happened with Machinarium.
Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
no game better, ever.
If you asked me for my favorite game of all time, I think I'd go with Earthbound.
Because a game that rapes your mind can't be bad.
Also Minecraft.
22:51
you know, the graphics in 1998-2000 ish were just about perfect
@RadekdaknokSlupik Minecraft isn't a game, it's a toybox.
good enough to be immersive and recognizable, not expensive enough to cost too much money to make
Like SimCity.
Like Dwarf Fortress!
That as well.
22:52
dSYM Fortress.
I'm actually considering just leaving my RTS with shitty graphics
I mean, like, 10polygon models and stuff
One day, I want to make a sim-like game. Probably some sort of sci-fi space colony simulator kind of thing.
That could work.
But the name sucks.
tried SOASE?
22:54
I heard about it.
or GalCiv or Imperium Galactica?
What's that?
Oh Sins of Solar Empire.
GalCiv is nice.
I played a bit of Homeworld, though.
But that's not really the same thing, right?
22:54
Homeworld was fun
Slow paced as fuck, but fun.
my new game is actually (hopefully) gonna be sort of like that
did you try the build I put up for everyone?
I had this idea about a sci-fi RTS (on ground, not in space) where you design units with spare parts you unlock in some way, then, before the game starts, you select N unit types you'll be able to use in game.
@DeadMG Nope. Wasn't even aware there was one.
@DeadMG You did?
22:56
well, about half the people who run it can't see the models
but apart from that, it works with a pretty self-evident interface for RTS
scroll to zoom, scroll in to zoom in on point
I unfortunately don't have access to Windows right now.
oh ok
Render.exe. Hmm.
But, yeah, your game is going to be butt ugly since you don't have artists.
@EtiennedeMartel I came up with another solution.
(if it works on your machine)
22:58
I need to install MSVC10 on the VM.
I think you should embrace old school graphics.
@RMartinhoFernandes Why? I'm pretty sure I statically linked the CRT and such things
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Render.exe - System Error
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The program can't start because MSVCP100.dll is missing from your computer. Try reinstalling the program to fix this problem.
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OK
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(Btw, did you know you can copy-and-paste Windows message boxes?)
how strange

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