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12:10 AM
Hey
Is 350/3300 a good world ranking?
 
@Mikhail Not at all. S/W raid doesn't do end-to-end checksumming, log structured FS, snapshotting, cloning, replication, encryption, compression, name normalization, quota, volumes, 128bit addressing, optionally dedup etc etc etc.
Calling ZFS "software raid" is akin to calling a jaguar a motorized go-cart
@VermillionAzure It's not over 9000 (also, what the hell are you talking about)
 
@sehe IEEEXtreme 11.0
My team placed 25 in US
5th in region, 356th in world
Pretty decent for a small team from Hawaii :)
 
12:33 AM
That's racist
 
if you perform in a race, aren't you not a racist?
 
> Know ye not that they which run in a race run all, but one receiveth the prize? So run, that ye may obtain.
 
1:16 AM
@Telkitty At least arguably, if you just enjoy races, you're probably a racist.
 
2:00 AM
China has drawn up secret plans to invade Taiwan with a Normandy-style beach landing by the mid-2020s, sparking a possible region-wide conflict that would likely draw in Australia, a new book claims.
and flying pigs will bring the next apocalypse
 
2:15 AM
@Telkitty it's not impossible. Seeing how the power balances shift, it's very good for people to consider things like this. Much like the cold war being "over".
Of course, posing it as "fact" is odd, but really, geo politics are a complex beast. Just look at Crimea. If you forget about the fact that countries can and will do annexation, you're pretty much doomed to just suffer future history.
 
I don't think Chinese leaders are so dumb, at least not in the near future
Also the dates when drones will deliver meals (like roast pork) maybe very close, so don't totally deny the possibility of flying pigs ...
 
@Telkitty Well, there you go
 
2:50 AM
What is the difference between a seagull and an albatross?
There are some fundamental differences in anatomy but the simplest and most obvious differences are that albatrosses specialise in feeding on marine creatures that they catch themselves; gulls are opportunist omnivores.
...
 
Ell
3:32 AM
@Mikhail btrfs!
 
4:22 AM
@sehe Actually what software RAID does is implementation dependent. The key thing is that it happens in software as opposed to hardware.
Curiously btrfs throughput benchmark, look better but I can't find any benchmarks on medium 30+ drive arrays.
 
Ell
@Mikhail the key thing is that ZFS != raid
You can do striping, mirroring etc. On it but it does much more right
 
redundant array of independent disks
@Ell My RAID controller has all of these features...
 
Ell
Maybe I have it the wrong way round then vOv
I thought software was preferred nowadays
 
The people who say this don't have "real" storage requirements... Or have never used hardware RAID.
I fucked up and tried ZFS for the exact same reason: aka people saying "software RAID is better"
 
 
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5:37 AM
@Mikhail I suspect most of used hardware RAID--but it was the hardware built into their motherboard, not a dedicated RAID controller.
 
True story: met a guy who worked on the Intel RST firmware, he made fun of me for using Intel RAID, said it was buggy.
So, server boards can have "real" RAID controllers that have much better scaling compared to Intel RST. For example, 4x 840 SSDs got perfect scaling ~ 2 GB/s compared to ~ 0.9 GB/s using Intel RST.
More on the subject of software RAID being a fucking joke. BackBlaze doesn't use 10 G because they can't saturate their 80 drive chassis with software RAID.
The irony is that the software stuff I do is by far the easiest thing I work on :-)
 
6:26 AM
I need to replace pretty much all my hardware ...
s/need/want/
 
6:42 AM
how to map three keys to a value in c++
 
use an object
 
say i have a value (1,2,3) and i need to map it to 87 then can you elaborate please?
 
there are numerous ways that you can do that
 
struct value {int x, y, z;}
 
for example, you can have an object containing 3 keys, then have a map that match each key object to a value, then write set and get methods
 
6:48 AM
Object
 
you can use struct too
 
or more formally, java.lang.Object
 
Lounge<!java>
 
I want something like this [0][0[0] = 1 [0][0][1] = 2 and so on..
three keys for a value and order matters
 
have you tried a fucking map?
 
6:51 AM
Mikhail using map it seems difficult :(
I also need to get those values in O(1)
I wanted to use a 3d array but it is wastage of memory
 
should be o(1) unless a collision happens, for a hashable map like unordered_map
 
@Hemant You forgot an end bracket, but like I said, you can do it in many ways, if you feel like using array then just do it that way. Good luck with O(1) accessing time without having to waste any memory
 
@Telkitty using unordered_map?
 
7:36 AM
sure, go ahead ...
that description, lol
 
 
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sometimes spaghetti code is better for readability, yes
logic flows like the spaghetti
if you chop the spaghetti into smaller pieces, people may get confused ...
 
@Telkitty If you're the type who cuts spaghetti into smaller pieces, you may as well buy noodles instead!
 
9:03 AM
> MrC0MPUT3R: I increase my test coverage by deleting code
 
@fredoverflow have you thought about using google translate to convert spaghetti into noodles?
 
9:38 AM
42 messages moved to C
 
thanks for the invitation @fred >_<
 
I'm pretty sure that happens automatically when you move messages to another room :)
 
I know ...
better than being invited to the bin
 
@Telkitty Does that happen? :) I thought bin and friends were somehow special...
 
10:01 AM
@Mikhail lies. If that were remotely true then you're even more silly for not using the hardware than just silly for using ZFS for just raid. Sorry not sorry /cc @Ell
 
11:14 AM
One day left to participate to the Expressive C++17 coding challenge! Use this Sunday to learn and practice with #cpp17!
That's slightly better
 
12:04 PM
Oh, there's a proposed official document for C17
 
12:27 PM
But it's locked behind a password :(
 
1:07 PM
@Mikhail You are completely missing the point. ZFS is more than RAID, that's why you had suboptimal experience with it. Use simplier solution like mdadm.
 
1:33 PM
ZFS also quite heavy, but you can't compare it to simply dmraid or something. That's doing yourself a disservice
 
 
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2:39 PM
Also Inter RST is a software raid which stores configuration in the end of the discs and requires motherboards to read it and represent arrays correctly in setup. It's buggy piece'o'shit, I had a RAID5 thinking that it's hardware RAID, write speeds were like 10 MB/s or something with C2D E8500, it rebuilded several times for whatever reason and system hung up when member drive disconnected accidentially i.e. it did not even provide availability.
 
3:15 PM
And it was only a 3 disk RAID5.
 
3:51 PM
@sehe I think that's a pretty harsh claim. Mirroring and striping are RAID 1 and RAID 0 respectively. Certainly easy to find hardware that supports both of those. Of course that doesn't cover the "etc." part--I'm not sure exactly what that's supposed to cover. There are certainly features of ZFS that no RAID controller of which I'm aware even attempts to provide. OTOH, finding RAID controllers that support more than 0 and 1 is pretty trivial too--e.g., RAID 5 and RAID 0+1.
 
4:20 PM
@JerryCoffin trying to discern which part might have been harsh then. Re: "etc.":
16 hours ago, by sehe
@Mikhail Not at all. S/W raid doesn't do end-to-end checksumming, log structured FS, snapshotting, cloning, replication, encryption, compression, name normalization, quota, volumes, 128bit addressing, optionally dedup etc etc etc.
 
5:02 PM
@DiegoPereira here we go again
 
@sehe Yes--if he'd replied to you, claiming he had hardware that did everything included in ZFS, that would clearly be false. Given what he actually did reply to, that only (directly) mentioned mirroring and striping, it all comes to do what might have been included under the "etc." (but I think given what was cited, it's probably inaccurate to assume that was intended to include most ZFS features).
 
5:55 PM
@JerryCoffin He says that literally, though
I know he's probably just trying to skate that fine line between truthfulness and ranty banter. I'm not having it because he's been using too much of my time in the process.
That's fine if there's real problems to be thought about (which, in fairness, it looked like he had. But at present he's just complaining that ZFS is using more RAM than he has/is willing to allocate).
In that stage I'm really not interested in superficial rants saying "my grandma's raid adaptor coulda done all that without breaking a sweat" - which is most definitely not the case. You pay for what you use. If you use ZFS, don't complain you don't need any of its features.
 
 
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9:14 PM
If you're unclosing a dupe, answer, and don't even upvote the question. Isn't that a dick move? stackoverflow.com/questions/46759363/…
 
@fenbf @branaby @JoBoccara "http://coliru.stacked-crook...- Aggressively minimizes allocations (constructs only 1 string unless an…" — http://disq.us/p/1n0ssiv
Will it be the winning entry?
@CaptainGiraffe I don't see why. It's quite ethical, in a way. Upvoting the question might be viewed as self-serving
 
@sehe I considered the self serving motive; and that they viewed it as favourable to the SO as a whole. But then the plus one for the Q would have been appropriate (for SO). I didn't plus one because to me the dupe is clear.
 
9:49 PM
Anybody else having trouble posting on disquss? My comments keep getting lost
I don't even want to know what this guy would do to Enterprise FizzBuzz disq.us/p/1n0tonc
 
heh, comments
> this song takes years [of practice] to get right
> and then you're never really 100% correct
 
10:28 PM
@sehe TMP fizzbuzz...
 
 
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11:29 PM
@JerryCoffin and then there is the entry that wrote an iterator "to make the implementation simpler"
 
11:58 PM
I have no clue what's happening. It's too fast and perhaps missing click feedback
 

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