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12:00
:P
Heck, I even got Lion from TPB. :P
You can get Lion through the developer program for free*.
lol I'm not going to pay $99/yr for a developer program
Also it's the developer preview of Lion, which I don't want.
Obviously, you aren't a developer, now are you :_)
@DomagojPandža I must I don't buy software. But I also don't use paid software. And I donated to ... I think 4 different projects.
O scratch that - I did buy viEmu (for visual studio), and didn't regret it
12:03
Oh yeah you use Linux.
I installed Visual Studio on my Mac a few months ago.
Maaaaan that program is slow.
It takes more than five seconds to start.
That said, it only had 2 GB of RAM and one processing core available.
I have 'evaluated' software extensively in the past (like CoolEdit Pro (now Adobe Audition), Finale Music notation software, Sibelius, Visual Studio).
But these days I'm much happier with the ease of just apt-get install ardour2 lilypond frescobaldi and be happy about it
@RadekdaknokSlupik Wow. That's understated or your PC is on steriods
Or you make your own. :P
@sehe Why? Isn't it normal that VS takes ages to load?
I'm used to programs starting instantly when I click them.
VS starts rather quickly
I was using VS2010, maybe that version was slow.
@RadekdaknokSlupik That's basically what it comes down to. I haven't actually contributed to ardour, nor lilypond, but I have written extension scripts for lilypond (in scheme) and I wrote a very basic jack client to the API, but that is about it
I have hacked more significantly on zfs-fuse.net - but that project is quickly losing attractiveness (IMO) since there is zfsonlinux (by Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory)
12:09
A year or five ago I wrote a batch file renamer for Windows and I was proud of it. It was about the only project that I ever completed (my website I don't really call a project).
@sehe Neat.
Hello.
It is hard to come up with really useful stuff and implement it
@RadekdaknokSlupik Most often, I find myself hacking on the stuff I need, without thinking about general applicability. Luckily, we have clients that tell us (roughly.....) what they need
in iPhone / iPad, 26 mins ago, by Tauseef
@Laddu @DimplePanchal @techno @ThunderRabbit @user1325990 @PandeyLaxman @AIbrahimZ @sreecharan @DeathMagus @Hercules @JohnWhite @krishna @Leena @VidyaMurthy @Bhurudada @BadMan @Narayana @MichaelDautermann @MedetiNaveenKumar @M007 How to run MAC App in XCode 4 ???
Ha.
That question doesn't even make any sense.
12:12
@RadekdaknokSlupik There's a tool that must already have been invented. Did you compare with the competition or just happily reinvented the wheel for the fun of it ?
Running an app in an IDE? Really?
@RadekdaknokSlupik i didn't parse a question. Stack overflow before reaching that
@sehe I was bored an I wanted to learn VB.NET.
@RadekdaknokSlupik I see. So... you used the infamous ScriptingRuntime Regex object ?
1 min ago, by Pubby
in iPhone / iPad, 26 mins ago, by Tauseef
@Laddu @DimplePanchal @techno @ThunderRabbit @user1325990 @PandeyLaxman @AIbrahimZ @sreecharan @DeathMagus @Hercules @JohnWhite @krishna @Leena @VidyaMurthy @Bhurudada @BadMan @Narayana @MichaelDautermann @MedetiNaveenKumar @M007 How to run MAC App in XCode 4 ???
@sehe What? The user just dropped a bunch of files onto it, typed in a name that contained $$ which would get replaced by a number from 1 to n and hit a button to start the renaming.
12:17
Oh. I thought it would be a more general tool (e.g. rename by replacing 'quark' --> 'Quark (Feat. Dildonics)' and stuff like that)
I use rename or qmv for that these days.
Quark Enterprises, Inc.
Deep Space 9
Deep Space 9? Is that even SFW?
Ok guys, I'm going to run some errands and enjoy the weather, see you around
Have fun!
@sehe It's Star Trek.
Totally SFW.
12:30
Safe for Worf?
Safe for Warp, silly.
Can someone please star multiple random messages so that "Final Fantasy is a menu simulator" disappears from the starred list ^^ ?
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Just star all my messages.
Final Fantasy is a menu simulator.
12:31
Final Fantasy is a menu simulator.
Damn!
Don't star that message, it's got "final fantasy is a menu simulator in it" :(
omg!
:(
That's the point.
Unstar me nao!! :)
facepalm
Hey stop the starring. This ain't Hollywood in space.
We are the gods and we must make the night sky
12:33
@ScarletAmaranth While I don't really agree with it, I'm not going to cancel the stars. That would be like saying "fuck off" to the six people that starred it.
@Pubby Sorry, but the only god here is Me.
So, you don't exist?
@RMartinhoFernandes Hahah, i know :)
Oh well, I'm off to study some moar, farewell.
@RMartinhoFernandes Did I ever tell you I did?
The only god is Windows Me
12:34
This is my home.
@RMartinhoFernandes I star therefore I am
Windows Millennium Edition was released one year before the start of the third millennium. Fucking stupid.
It was celebrating the end of the second millennium, not the start of the third!
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Q: C#, Compare two string and remove common letters

user1432340i am having problem with an exercise, so here is the exercise: "Write a program that aids with appropriate messages on the screen to read two character strings str1 and str2 even which will be given from the keyboard and then delete all the letters in the variable str1, which appear in the variab...

They should release that when Microsoft exists for a millennium.
12:37
C#, where did that come from?
Because C, C# and C++ are all the same language, obviously.
@Pubby FIXED Tags don't belong in titles.
if I want to add an xmm register with a constant, do I have to move the constant into a xmm register first?
@ManofOneWay In a SIMD manner ? (Add to each n-WORD of the xmm reg ?)
@RadekdaknokSlupik You're my hero
@Pubby As I said,
7 mins ago, by Radek 'daknok' Slupik
@Pubby Sorry, but the only god here is Me.
Visual Studio is awesome! It encourages piracy!
12:44
@ScarletAmaranth Just a regular floating point addition, a variable + fp constant
The traditional route to my grandfather involves getting off at a tiny railway station and hiking up a narrow gorge for about an hour.
Xeo
Xeo
:)
@Xeo I was just answering that!
+1.
12:47
@ManofOneWay My question is whether you're using the fpu and xmm registers or you want "vector addition" for each component of a registry vector (happens to be in xmm as well).
@RadekdaknokSlupik Sounds fun!
Xeo
Xeo
@RMartinhoFernandes kekeke
@ScarletAmaranth No vector operations
@Xeo Do you mind editing in a one-sentence summary of the cause of the problem? You know, link rot and all that shit.
Xeo
Xeo
Oh, yeah
12:49
@ManofOneWay Then you should be able to simply add an immediate from it's special memory location instead of having to move it to an another xmm register first. In the FPU mode naturally.
@ScarletAmaranth There is no addition using an immediate when operating on xmm registers as far as I can see. Could you point me to it in the Intel manual?
Instead of working on my spec, I'm slacking here.
I'm an idiot.
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Q: Object destruction in C++

FredOverflowWhen exactly are objects destroyed in C++, and what does that mean? Do I have to destroy them manually, since there is no Garbage Collector? How do exceptions come into play? (Note: This is meant to be an entry to Stack Overflow's C++ FAQ. If you want to critique the idea of providing an FAQ in...

@ManofOneWay Right, you were right, sorry. You need to have it in a register for some reason, i though addsd could accept an immediate as a rh operand. ->
Xeo
Xeo
@RMartinhoFernandes: Done
The Sacred Manual of Intel, 4000 pages of intense guidance.
Right, last time I tried going trough it I fell asleep on the 1st page ;)
@FredOverflow That doesn't say the order of delete[]
13:08
Hm, you're right, it only mentions the descending order in the case of an exception being thrown.
Exceptions are fun.
This question was tagged , even though it starts with #include <iostream.h>...
Goodie. I want to +1 edits.
Some people write just damn ugly code.
13:21
hi
what is the maximum size of the data that can posted by http post
hi
13:43
Anybody here with experience in writing node.js modules in c++ ?
Well a more common question
which distro of linux should i install , if i dont have a very solid internet connection + I need to code in C++ , JavaScript , HTML5 etc.
14:06
LFS.
Obviously.
I'm like so linear.
Xeo
Xeo
Wow! My mind got blown. I had thought about the multi-condition (easy enough with variadic), but... combining so many technics and managing to hit such a syntactical sweet spot. Amazing. Thanks for sharing the article. — Matthieu M. 31 mins ago
@RMartinhoFernandes ^^
I don't know why all the black magic we do with templates feels so strange, even after all this time.
It's like dabbling with necromancy.
That book the Robot and Luc should write will be the necronomicon
14:30
@Ell: Ping me when you get online
@DeadMG How are you today?
Here are some puppies, enjoy.
@ManofOneWay Alive.
14:45
I'd like to be alive.
Being alive is overrated.
May 16 at 21:02, by Radek 'daknok' Slupik
Saying things are overrated is overrated.
Being alive is dangerous. If you live too long you'll die.
The more birthdays you have in your life, the older you get.
Being older is not synonymous with being healthy. Quite the opposite. You fail.
So when are we having the gathering at @RMartinhoFernandes place?
To be honest, I wouldn't invite anyone to my place. That thing is a mess.
by the way
no overload for basic_string<Char>::operator+=(basic_string<Char>&&)?
MSDN appears to suggest that it does not le exist
14:54
Wait, what could that possibly move?
There is this:
basic_string<CharT,Traits,Alloc>
        operator+( basic_string<CharT,Traits,Alloc>&& lhs,
                   basic_string<CharT,Traits,Alloc>&& rhs );
@RMartinhoFernandes my_string += std::string("hello!")?
@RMartinhoFernandes The right side, if it has enough memory.
@DeadMG Oh, right.
hmm
14:55
Because I'm waking up, obviously.
to use expression templates to optimize repeated concatenation?
aaah... later
std::basic_string::reserve() the string before concatenating a thousand strings.
@RadekdaknokSlupik That means you need to collect all the strings you'll be using first.
Assuming you have them already. :P
hmmm
15:00
Maybe ostringstream is faster than operator+=.
if I allow erasing an arbitrary code unit, then I also allow creating unpaired surrogates by erasing one of them
Never mind. I'm a noob.
I need to expose a code-point interface, not code-unit
@DeadMG Oh, that's bad.
@RMartinhoFernandes I got that far :P
15:00
That's basically a dumb container.
std::vector<code_unit> serves just fine for that. Or the std::uXXstring craps.
well, I did originally implement on top of ICU's UnicodeString, which presumably performs all the validation in the world
but I decided to use std::basic_string<UChar> as the underlying container instead
because UnicodeString has no move semantics
... or even swap semantics
Textbox blues.
Too difficult to add them?
@RMartinhoFernandes Have you seen the ICU source?
(I never looked at ICU code, so I have no idea)
15:02
it's beyond bad
it's automatically generated from Java source
Yeah, that should be bad.
and then it was shat on
that's how bad it is
if it was feasible to simply alter the ICU source, I would have just stolen their BreakIterator implementation and dropped dependency on it entirely
and I even asked a question to try anyway
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Q: ICU implementation code for BreakIterators

DeadMGI was looking to modify the ICU source code, but it's quite impenetrable to me and I was unable to find the piece that I was looking for. I was hoping to find the code (and hopefully some explaining comments/documentation) on the BreakIterators implementation. Does anyone know where in the ICU C...

15:05
Did you try grepping?
for what, precisely?
The name of the iterator types?
if you were hoping to find something like class CharacterBreakIterator { ... };, then tough luck, because it doesn't exist
Ok, I'm intrigued. Downloading the code now...
also, I might mention that it appears to open a file when you make those things
not that I'm sure why
15:08
Oh, I remember that. It makes no sense.
Just started playing Bastion. And boy am I glad that this bundle thing comes with the soundtrack.
I thought the soundtrack was free to begin with
Bastion is a Dutch hotel company.
supergiantgames.bandcamp.com Seems it's not free, but it still is
Spike in a Rail is the best
15:18
A billion views.
Thousand million.
"Fag buys music", lol
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A thousand million is a billion
Thousandth trillion.
Fake, first YT comment would be "412 people buy music".
15:20
oh fuck
@RadekdaknokSlupik I buy music when the artists are selling it directly.
Otherwise I just go see them in shows and stuff.
There is a programme about art on channel 2.
does the Standard really require that *it, where it is a const bidirectional iterator, be an lvalue?
(You could check)
Lemme check.
15:21
I buy music when... I don't.
Boost implies that it does
Nope, the only requirement is that it must be iterator_traits<T>::reference.
Which is defined to be the result of *it.
So, anything goes, I guess.
does that mean that I could do typedef T reference;?
that's kinda silly
Is Google/YouTube paid off to promote IGN's ad-infested videos over original posters?
The name is silly, yeah, but having *it return a value is useful.
15:24
Damn "partners".
@DomagojPandža Of course they are. How else do they make money?
But it's not their content. I understand if it's original content, but this is plain bullshit.
An iterator for a continuous range of ints would return a value, for example.
Everything on youtube is bullshit.
Luckily, adding an additional word resolves this.
15:25
Everything is bullshit.
@DomagojPandža It's probably on the TOS...
Each of you needs to be willing to die. Anything less, and we're already dead.
Robots don't die. They halt.
That's still death
Not if you boot again.
15:30
Mass Effect 3 - Because you love games and EA loves your money.
you know
I could offer a mutable iterator.. as long as I validated surrogates on insertion
worth the time?
Ell
Ell
hi guys :)
@DeadMG ping!
@Ell ohai
Latency: 1.2 seconds
I decided to change some of my architecture to OnPaint
Ell
Ell
15:33
:D howcome?
well, that stuff needs a method that's called then anyway
and keeping the Drawables around is a waste when I have to have an equivalent callback
Ell
Ell
so you are going for a hybrid approach? some drawables, some OnPaint?
yep
Ell
Ell
cool :) we agree then :P
You agree with the puppy? That's not fun.
Ell
Ell
15:35
haha
Puppy agreement detected. Initializing End of World protocols.
Ell
Ell
is someone knocking at my chamber door? brb
turns out no. xD
Watch the skies, traveler.
Ell
Ell
oooh intel atom powered smart phone released by orange
@Ell probably a piece of shit.
Ell
Ell
15:39
what makes you think that?
Oh gawd. ICU uses an UObject common base class.
Instinct.
Focussing on processing power instead of usability.
Oh gawd, why did I download this?
Ell
Ell
with great processing power comes great usability
15:40
Ehm no.
No, with great programming comes great usability.
Ell
Ell
with great insanity comes great programming
With a great eye for detail and extensive user testing comes great usabilty.
Insanity is not that bad.
15:41
(I suppose I can link tropes, with the ape off for the weekend and all :)
It's like sanity, plus the in.
Ell
Ell
sanity is in this season
Sanity is just a subset.
ICUBreakIteratorFactory, ICUBreakIteratorService, OMG.
Factories can be free function.
C++ is Java!
15:44
@RadekdaknokSlupik Those are classes.
I know, that's why I'm saying.
With virtuals and shit.
Ell
Ell
C++#
Sorry puppy, totally not going to lose SAN points helping you find the break iterator logic.
Reality is a story the mind tells itself. An artificial structure conjured into being by the Calcium ion exchange of a million synaptic firings. What is sanity?
15:46
@RMartinhoFernandes lol
@DomagojPandža Sanity is living on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity.
libclang y u C API.
Greater interop.
Not with C++.
Oh yeah, I totally love void*'s disguised as CXCursors!
Not with anything, basically. But it's still greater than a C++ API.
15:55
is wcslen a Standard function?
or MSVC specific?
It ought to be standard. I just managed to injure my foot on the goddamn door.
does the return value include NULL terminator?
Returns the length of a wide string, which is not the same as a Wide string.
@DeadMG Nope, it's just like strlen.
15:57
Just for widechars
so if I did std::wstring x(ptr, ptr + wcslen(ptr));, I don't get my nice wstring contaminated
Erm, std::wstring x(ptr)?
not in this case
I'm using insert and it has no overload for iterator position but C-string insertion value

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