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00:03
@Ell ...isn't it 1am where you are?
I mean, the dog has no life, but you have school or something
Ell
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It is
My school has finished
Well, time to go home. See you folks.
Ell
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Bye :)
I am on study leave now
So I should be revising, but my next exam is 2 weeks and tonight we went out for s curry
So I'm allowed to stay up :D
@Ell oh hey, when did it become May?
@MooingDuck 31 days ago.
Ell
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00:06
About 31 days ago
also known as the season of "bugger all's on TV".
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Game of thrones!
That is really good
@Ell it's the first television series or movie made after a book that I found just as interesting as the book.
It's incredibly well done.
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I havent read the books, but my brother's girlfriend has and she enjoys them a lot too
I'm going to hit the sack
night
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00:09
Although I've only seen patches of it so I need to re-watch the whole first series
Night pup
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00:21
I think I ought to go too! Nighty night
00:36
ARrgh.
"If we pay you 50€ would you do our project for us?"
Fuck.
Why do people think I'm like that.
@RMartinhoFernandes people don't understand the difficulty of programming
Why are computers so slow? Seriously. When I alt tab back and forth between two Windows Explorer windows, I should not have to wait for a repaint
@MooingDuck It's a school project.
It's dead simple.
oh, perforce decided to launch itself. maybe related
But I'm not a whore.
@RMartinhoFernandes I think there's a big jump between what happened to you and whoring.
00:39
It pisses me off.
They start by asking for help, and I do. Then they ask me to do it for them. For money. That's pushing all the wrong buttons.
em, so how's this got anything to do with C++, or is that a stupid question?
gah! This program is supposed to validate my xml file! Shouldn't it at least give me a line number?
Xeo
Xeo
@freefallr C++ is vexing. The robot's situation is vexing. There, connection.
first time
@freefallr this is merely a room of people who like C++, and it gives us an excuse to dismiss people who have C/Java/PHP questions. But we rarely discuss C++ here.
00:44
heh. I'm going to bed. Have fun!
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Xeo
@MooingDuck And when we do, the ones not participating complain.
Anyway, now that everyone knows how to really, really piss me off, I'm going to take a walk to calm down and then try to sleep. Bye.
@RMartinhoFernandes want money? would that help?
ah curses.
> 20120530174730590| 1556|| ParseTool| MyApp| ** ERROR => SVC AFFECT **| 4062| SWI_PARSER_GRAM_COMPILE_ERROR| Failed in grammar compilation| do_generate_cfg_rule | Couldn't find the non-terminal 'Get' in the namelist-2!
That error message mean anything to anyone? grammar xml validation :/
I can't find any word in that message that is also in my file
and of course there's no line number or anything
oh wait, Get is. I found the error! I had a reference to a element who's ID was "Get", but I didn't have such an element. Stupid error message.
01:02
I don't understand why people come here and think that the conversation will involve C++.
@ScarletAmaranth because this is part of stackoverflow.com in a room labeled "C++"

C#

General discussions about the c# language, Squirrels | gist.gi...
Hehe, nice topic.
01:18
Hmm, error type is error unknown, and I know from experience that the description is not in any of our log files, but that of a third party somewhere in C:/Program Files/, but I can't recall the 3rd party. Time to go home.
 
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04:28
is it a good idea to use /fi (force include file) for PCH, instead of manually adding #include "pch.pch" to every .cpp file? (in VC++)
weird problem: ideone.com/Lk2lf
according output:class Conf Init
Trash init data
in MyList::f()
class MyList init
class Conf Del
you could call the function and visit the variable before the instance created
@AlanGame, make it SSCCE
05:04
JUST A SIMPLE QUESTION
BIG LETTERS
 
1 hour later…
06:19
0
Q: Is there any tool which can translate only comments in the code

ollydbg23I have some c++ source files, which contains comments in Italian language, is there any tool which can translate only comments to English language. I have tried Google translate, it will translate the whole file, and the // will be translated too. So, paste from the translation result from Google...

When I first read the title, I thought he wanted to automatically translate comments into code :)
Xeo
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@FredOverflow // please work!
Refactoring would be that much easier if such a tool existed :P
> The compiler is broken. It ignores all my comments!
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Good morning everybody! I've a problem with std::random_shuffle. My code works fine in release mode (MSVC10), but in debug mode, it shows a run-time error (it compiles fine). could anybody gently have a look to my 5 lines of code? => ideone.com/hIz95
@Tin which error?
I would replace vPairTrees = vTrees; (linear time) with vPairTrees.swap(vTrees); (constant time) for performance.
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06:26
@FredOverflow I wouldn't even use a temporary std::vector
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@Abyx, just a min. i'm trying to upload a screenshot
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And I don't quite see the need for the call to resize
@Tin use debugger
@Xeo right, here is a better version:
vPairTrees = m_trees;
std::random_shuffle(vPairTrees.begin(), vPairTrees.end());
vPairTrees.resize(nNumTrees);
@Xeo He only wants nNumTrees results, but there are a lot more possibilities that need to be picked from.
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Where did I write reserve? ;)
06:29
@Xeo cheater
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@Abyx, I was using the debugger and came to the "algorithm" file
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@FredOverflow Ah, good point, didn't sink about shrinking
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more concretely, here:
template<class _RanIt> inline
void random_shuffle(_RanIt _First, _RanIt _Last)
{ // shuffle [_First, _Last)
_DEBUG_RANGE(_First, _Last);
if (_First != _Last)
_Random_shuffle(_Unchecked(_First), _Unchecked(_Last),
_Dist_type(_First));
}
@Tin Does CTree have a user-defined destructor? If so, does CTree follow the Rule of Three?
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Q: What is The Rule of Three?

FredOverflowWhat does copying an object mean? What are the copy constructor and the copy assignment operator? When do I need to declare them myself? How can I prevent my objects from being copied?

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We wouldn't even need the rule of three for normal cases if everyone just used building block classes like unique_ptr :(
06:32
I validated the flagged msg by RobinHood - because of grammar mess/parse fail
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@FredOverflow, mmm I just checked the implementation of CTree, I've only a default constructor and some parameter constructors, no copy constructor, no overload to the copy assignment operator
@Tin Does CTree have any pointer members? Also, you didn't answer my other question: does Ctree have a user-defined destructor?
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@Tin Does CTree contain (a) pointer(s)?
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Yes:
CPairNode::Ptr m_rootNode;
Xeo
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wuap wuap wuaaaah
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06:33
where: typedef boost::shared_ptr<CPairNode> Ptr;
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oh, damn.
Ah okay, that should be fine.
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why i still don't get is why it works in release mode, but not in debug mode?
Why don't you just show us the definition of Ctree on ideone? Or is it too big?
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Hm, but "invalid null pointer" ... that sounds strange
06:35
@Tin You're just getting "lucky". Debug mode checks more stuff, and if it finds an error, you did something wrong.
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@Tin Because release mode disables those _DEBUG_RANGE etc checks for the stdlib
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here's the complete definition: ideone.com/mtY4f
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And it's one of those _DEBUG_XXX stuff that MS adds to the lib that fires the assertion
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lines 70-> on for the class attributes
@Tin Can we see the definition of ~CPairTree();?
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06:36
CPairTree::~CPairTree() {

}
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Why is there even a user-defined dtor..
Anyways, something is fishy and reeks of UB
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UB?
@FredOverflow, do you think, there's a problem in destructor because of smart the pointer? I thought, it releases the memory by itself
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Since the assertion fires from a standard algo, it most likely got to do with some invalid iterators
@Tin undefined behaviour, aka Not Good™
@Tin It does. That shouldn't be the problem. How do you initialize the smart pointer?
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@FredOverflow It's not the class' fault
06:40
Oh - I see, we can only FLAG ALL CAPS MESSAGES now?‮
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Something went horribly wrong before that I guess
@Tin Try codepad.org, pastebin.com, ideone.com
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sorry!
this is a constructor from that class and is where I'm initializing the pointer
Thanks
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@Tin, change the vectors from vector<CTree> to vector<int> just for testing, please
(and modify all needed code so it compiles, of course)
06:43
Have source control :)
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@Xeo, it worked with std::vector<int>, didn't get any run-time errors
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Geh, how troublesome. Did you have to comment out much code to make it compile?
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no, only 4 lines or so
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Can you show them?
Or rather, was that part of the code before or after the call to getRandomTrees?
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in line 58 I'm calling that method
i only uploaded the involved code so that it is easy to read
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06:50
hm, seems that CPairTree really is the culprit after all. I do wonder what is wrong, though.
@Tin Do all constructors initialize the smart pointer?
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@FredOverflow That shouldn't really matter, right? A copy of the shared_ptr doesn't touch the pointee, after all
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@FredOverflow, not all of them, the default constructor is completely empty: ideone.com/DW8er
But it might explain the null pointer in the error message.
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@FredOverflow I don't think so, the assert box is MS stdlib style
and the shared_ptr is from boost
the assertion even fires from <xutility>
06:53
@Tin In what line of random_shuffle does the error occur?
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@FredOverflow, just a minute, i'll have a look at it again
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reminds me. @Tin, what happens if you hit "Retry" when the assert plops up? Where does it take you and how does the callstack look like?
template<class _InIt,
	class _OutIt> inline
	_OutIt copy(_InIt _First, _InIt _Last,
		_OutIt _Dest)
	{	// copy [_First, _Last) to [_Dest, ...)
	_DEBUG_RANGE(_First, _Last);
	_DEBUG_POINTER(_Dest); // <<=== <xutility:2225>
	return (_Copy_impl(_Unchecked(_First), _Unchecked(_Last),
		_Dest, _Is_checked(_Dest)));
	}
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@Xeo, @FredOverflow, here the answers to your questions
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@Tin Callstack would be nice
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@Xeo, how do i find that?
sorry
because now everything's blocked after the popup
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06:59
should be in the lower right corner during debugging
(in default UI, ofc)
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@Xeo, ok I got the callstack
the error comes from line 2228 of algorithm
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Somehow, it seems your boost::numeric::ublas::matrix fucks up
hmm
The real world calls, sorry. Gotta go to work. Good luck finding that bug!
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why do you think it's the boost matrix?
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Nah, it could also be that the matrix is just the first syndrome of a greater fuck up
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07:09
:(
is it also because of the call stack?
from this unbounded array message?
the problem is that i'm actually not initializing that matrix on the constructors
at a given moment, i call to a method and it's only there where i initialize it ideone.com/xnzfR
the m_confidences class attribute
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In the CPairTree class, try swapping the declaration of m_confidences with the next vector and run again
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how could i initialize that matrix to be empty in the constructor?
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@Tin It should do so by itself. Its default ctor is called from your ctor if not explicitly initialized
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@Xeo, i'm re-running the code with the line swap suggestion, just a minute
mmm
got the same error message
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screen of the assert box + callstack please
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Tin
07:16
checking the call stack it seems to be that i calls a copy constructor of cpairtree, which i haven't defined
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It calls the copy assignment op
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which i also haven't defined
do you think, it will help if i define it?
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Try commenting out the matrix and run again
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ok, just a second
it passed!
no errors
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oh boy
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07:24
thanks! but now, i don't know how to solve it :S
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hmm
Can I have the CForest definition + ctors and the run_test_pairs_subforest function?
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ok, just a min.
but do you mean, the CForest? or CPairTree? the CPairTree is the one which has the m_condifences attribute
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CForest
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here is the run_test_pairs_subforest => ideone.com/BcVSL
morning all
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Tin
07:34
and here the pairsforest => ideone.com/QPPW2
@thecoshman, good morning!
any one tried there hands at windows phone development? what's it like?
> Powerful ‘Flame’ cyberweapon tied to popular Angry Birds game
lol
Anything that uses Lua will now be classified as being tied to a cyberweapon
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@Tin: Hm, sorry, no idea at the moment what is causing the problem and RL is calling for me too
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@Xeo, thanks in any case for your time and support!
have a nice day!
will try to figure it out
oh good god! some one has decided to just leave some god damn rage inspiring alarm to go off at work!
07:50
nothing a bucket of water won't solve :)
08:18
@sehe A lot of problems could be solved that way :P
oh man, I should not have skipped breakfast <rumble>
nothing a bucket of water won't solve :)
Challenge of the day: Think of a problem that a bucket of water won't solve
Water intoxication
@ScottW That is preventive. Doesn't solve the problem of water intoxication
08:35
@sehe and you could up turn the bucket, to stand on it to help you lief the person up high to empty their lungs (it works that way right?)
@ScottW you can use the water to help grow crops (magical bucket :P)
Also, who says you have hands? People with disabilities can get water intoxication too. No bottles (IV could be used, in a hospital setting, e.g.)
@sehe lol
(a) Turning up the the bucket makes it a bucket without water.
(b) water intoxication does not involve the lungs. At all
well, we could 'remove' the problem by drowning all who are hungry
Or, let's just stick to the ones that profess their hunger too often in chat rooms
08:38
a) no one said the water had to stay in the bucket
b) oh, you mean hypotention (I think that's the word) too much water in the body
@ScottW New challenge of the day: think of a solution that doesn't fail for 'world hunger'
@sehe in that case, smack 'em up side the head so they stop there bitching
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sorry guys, i don't want to take your time, but does any of you has some experience with the boost.matrix class? i've a bug that was not able to find yet. i've a class Tree with a boost.matrix as member and each time i call random_shuffle(v.begin(),v.end()) on a std::vector<Tree> v, I get an error in debug mode, but not in release mode
@thecoshman No I mean....
Water intoxication, also known as water poisoning, is a potentially fatal disturbance in brain functions that results when the normal balance of electrolytes in the body is pushed outside of safe limits (e.g., hyponatremia) by overhydration, i.e., over-consumption of water. Under normal circumstances, accidentally consuming too much water is exceptionally rare. Nearly all deaths related to water intoxication in normal individuals have resulted either from water drinking contests in which individuals attempt to consume large amounts of water, or long bouts of intensive exercise during wh...
@sehe hmm... oh well, in that case the bucket of water can be used to add salts and the like to for the person to drink, thus restoring the balance
08:42
@thecoshman Really. Your suggestion would be to ... drink more water. Yeah, fat chance the balance will be restored. Also, it was a bucket of water. Not: a bucket of fluids with additional chemicals, minerals, nutrients
@sehe you drink a high concentration of the do dads, to help restore the balance. You can not just eat the do dads, you need the water to help carry them into your body.
LOL:
@HW90 this is my question — user1400722 1 min ago
why can't I edit that question?
@thecoshman you just removed the only bit of helpful context, IMO. Of course that information should be in the Question itself (too)
ok, I grant you the edit, although it isn't helpful
the question is how to manipulate text in C#, if that text was bible passages, would it be a religious question? No
I still don't see why I can't edit the question it self, I can re-tag but not edit :S
08:50
It already is a religious question. It is actually more like a prayer: "Dear God, please send me the codez"
@thecoshman Probably classic case of confusion: stackoverflow.com/revisions/…
@sehe what so you mean? I should have edit rights... but I do not see the edit button/link
interesting
refresh browser/cache
@sehe good god man! you nearly broke my sarcasm detector with that one
GOOGLE Y U NO LEAVE UI ALONE FOR MORE THEN A WEEK!!!
THEN
@thecoshman Are you referring to Google Search?
@ScottW Sleep well.
"Clear all browsing data..." <-- this button does not do what it sounds like it is going to do
@sehe chrome settings page
yay! I can haz edits
08:57
@thecoshman So... a browser cache flush fixed it? CSS mismatch failure
@sehe it would look that way
edited, please accept :)
> This post has been locked while disputes about its content are being resolved. For more info visit meta.
with regards to the classic
wtf?
09:18
I have just wasted over nine hours of my life.
@RadekdaknokSlupik Again, woke up too early.
I suggest you wake up 9 hours later in the future, it seems to spare you the waste
@thecoshman I improved. The editorial was inappropriate (the comments are for your opinion/suggestions) and wrong (the OP should edit the question, not provide info in through the comments)
That would make me waste 18 hours.
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@RadekdaknokSlupik You've been in this chat for 9hrs straight?
> There’s something about you I don’t like....... but I can’t seem to put my middle finger on it......... — Debbie Howard
Debbie has somewhat of a good streak this week. There's a lot I like. That makes up for all the weeks (months, really), she posted crap about sex and binge-drinking
> If you're reading this and you're under 12 years old. Don't grow up, its a fucking trap. — Debbie Howard
09:38
@sehe OP doesn't have enough rep to edit though? I'll refrain from editorials then, what's the best to handle that sort of thing though?
@sbi 'she' does seem to oscillate between crass sex jokes and quality funnies
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@thecoshman If at least it were jokes she did. Most of it is just fishing for followers by applying un-PC stereotypes in a way that's almost insulting to my intelligence.
@sbi funny then that 'she' often pushes me close to un-following with here "sex, lol" style of tweets
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@thecoshman What's funny about that? I have considered un-following her time and again. But, as I said, a few of what she posts is really good stuff, and that kinda makes up for the crap in between.
@sbi no, I have slept for nine hours straight.
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@thecoshman Wax on your carpet. (Being unfairly advantaged by having a lot of kids, I gave the others a head start. They didn't make good use of it, though.)
@RadekdaknokSlupik Isn't that pretty much the same — I mean, regarding what should be foremost on the agenda of young people: intellectual advance?
09:53
@sbi ooh.... got to think about this one. oh, simple. Boil the water and use it melt and float the wax off. More of a rug solution... and might require a rather large bucket
and how did your kids get wax on the carpets? running around like... kids?
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@thecoshman Wax doesn't dissolve in water — not even in hot water. Believe me, BTDT. (What helps is lots of blotting paper and a hot iron.)
@sbi the wax is not supposed to dissolve. It melts and then floats away
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@thecoshman I think I forgot the exact incidence. (It's ten years ago that I lived with a carpet.)
@sbi BTDT?
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@thecoshman ...on the carpet. Yeah, and then it cools again. Sounds like a bummer of a "solution".
@thecoshman lmgtfy.com
09:57
@sbi rip up the carpet, stick in a big as bucket of water, boil that mother fucker. Wax will melt and float to be skimmed away. Dry carpet, and replace. Not the best way to solve the problem but it will solve it
Why do you use Google with HTTPS?
@RadekdaknokSlupik because I do with Google is between me and Google
@RadekdaknokSlupik Why not? HTTPS ALL THE THINGS, as they say
@jalf I wish that were true.
@jalf Y U NO USE THIS MEME
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09:58
@RadekdaknokSlupik eff.org/https-everywhere
even though in the case of Google specifically, it seems kind of pointless. It's not like you can trust them with your privacy in the first place. But again, why not use HTTPS with Google?
I neither use Firefox nor Chrome, but it looks cool.
@RadekdaknokSlupik GTFO
@RadekdaknokSlupik (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
10:01
@thecoshman Erm. Look at my message:
37 mins ago, by sehe
@thecoshman I improved. The editorial was inappropriate (the comments are for your opinion/suggestions) and wrong (the OP should edit the question, not provide info in through the comments)
> the comments are for your opinion/suggestions. Also, AFAIK the OP can (obviously) always edit his own question
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@thecoshman A) That was a carpet made from real wool (I only had two kids back then, and money left for such extravagances), and would have died with the application of hot water. B) That would have to be one hell of a big bucket, to fit in 30m² of a stiff carpet.
@sbi but, the wax would have come out of your carpet. Also, if you refrain from agitating the carpet, it should come out fine. AFAIK even wool carpets have a Hessian (did I get the right word there? probably not) backing so shrinking would not be an issue.
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@thecoshman It's not just about shrinking. The application of hot water (and mechanical energy) turns wool into felt. Also, you neglected to answer B). So I win. — And if not, I'd only have to think of one of the many other disasters I have lived through in all those years with kids. Really, with just a bucket of water, you have little chance against kids. (I only picked the wax episode for the "solving" pun.)
Further, you never said which way around the problem was. It could be that your wax is dried into the carpet and you want it back
@sbi I thought I had already covered the fact that the bucket could just be a huge ass bucket. And just heating wool will not felt it. Hot water helps the felting process, but it is the agitation that does the work, my GF has a done a good bit of hand felting, so I can say that with confidence, not that you have to accept it of course; 'tis the nature of the 'net
@sbi overkill. Just google BTDT alone will do plenty. BTDT
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10:11
@thecoshman Oh, I know that it takes application of mechanical energy to make real felt. To make bad, unwanted felt, though, the sudden application of hot water is enough. (Note that you actually can boil wool sweaters and the like, but you need to put it into cold water and slowly raise the temperature until boiling.)
@sehe Maybe in this case. However, having had other experiences with other abbreviations, I have learned to stick in the term "abbreviation" when I search for such a beast.
@sbi thanks for furthering my case :D I wan expecting to be able to 'bring to the boil'
@chatsirirattana and very bad. That should be a comment
/me Finding mix Scala and C++
@sbi I also wouldn't bring the water to a proper boil, as the bubbling would provide a risk of felting. It seems about 70 to 80 C would be a good temperature
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Wow.
> North Carolina legislators have decided that the way to make exponential increases in sea level rise – caused by those inconvenient feedback loops we keep hearing about from scientists – go away is to make it against the law to extrapolate exponential — NC Considers Making Sea Level Rise Illegal
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> No matter in North Carolina. We’ve got resorts to build and we don’t care what the rest of the ocean does – our sea isn’t going to rise by more than 15.6 inches. Because otherwise it’s against the law.
Haha, this guy is great.
> I’d love to write more, but I have chores to do and kids to manage. Man — all this housework after a full day of work at my desk just doesn’t seem right. There oughtta be a law. Hey, wait a minute...
10:23
well fuck me, USA have some how made them selves look even more idiotic
I see the irony in what I just wrote
saying 'fuck me' isn't irony. It's just bad style
@sehe that's not the idiotic part
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Oh, and BTW, try to solve that with a bucket of water.
@sbi very easy, just keep scooping up the water and empty it in the dessert. Has the added bonus of hydrating the desserts so they can grow crops
10:30
You can use it to hoist from the east coast to the west coast. Let me first pass a low that general relativity theory must not be used in validating this approach as a solution and the size of the bucket must be unspecified, therefore assumed infinite
@thecoshman Sound like a good ---environ---- mental policy
@sehe troll physics :D
> Sounds like The Simpson’s Springfield after they narrowly escaped from being destroyed by a comet, “let’s burn down the observatory so this never happens again.”
@sbi if the problem is idiotic people, just bash them with the bucket :P
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@thecoshman But there must be millions of them in the Bible belt (who else votes for all those morons, after all?), and the bucket is likely to be empty after you hit about the third guy.
hash them in a bucket
10:35
@sbi freeze the bucket, well water in the bucket. Will make it more efficient weapon
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@thecoshman We're talking the Bible belt here. A bucket of frozen water will unfreeze within an hour there — in the "winter".
@sbi I would prefer to do it slowly o_o
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@thecoshman If you plan to hit the heads of all morons in the Bible belt with a bucket, you better do it very fast — otherwise they might multiply faster than you can hit them.
@sbi can't I just have an infeasibly large bucket, and upturn it over America?
I have a embedded systems test in 2 hours. It's so idiotic. We need to remember about 300 slides full of text, down to API details of several Java profiles.
And some equations related to analog-digital/digital-analog conversion.
10:42
@CatPlusPlus if you think tests are going to be fair, you're going to have a bad time
And RTOS scheduling algorithms.
@CatPlusPlus equations?
Hell, even how to set some registers in C on Atmega or something.
This is so fucking ridiculous.
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@thecoshman Of course every problem is solvable with any X, if you just assume that X to be unfeasibly large.
@sbi said the duchess to the vicar
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10:47
@CatPlusPlus I once wrote under a written exam which required us to have memorized an 80 page script, that the ability to memorize telephone books is something that comes in handy when you are working in a circus, while I was aiming to become a software developer. That must have really pissed the guy who gave that lecture, because, rather than let me fail (which would have fit my "performance" in that exam), he let me pass with the worst mark possible.
This one is written via web interface, and they don't give a fuck if your input is not exactly as the one it should be.
And I mean it. Typo? Oh well, 0 points.
Used a comma instead of a dot for a decimal number? Oh well, 0 points.
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room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: Our compiler will not emit error message >500 chars. Because otherwise it’s against the law. [c++] [c++11] [c++-faq]
@thecoshman Put a nuclear missile control red button on the bucket. Aim the missiles at them and press the red button.
In case you're wondering, no, that's not our plan.
Modern bloody education.
I'm so angry at this. Fuck.
@sbi So you want to disallow templates ?
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10:52
@thecoshman (The problem with simply pouring water into the desert, BTW, is that it destroys the top soil through salting. Yes, you have a good harvest — for two or three years. Then the area is irrecoverably dead for agriculture.)
Dessert, not desert.
@sbi Oh, it's not only educators. At my university, we (computer science) were laughed at by other engineering students because we had easy exams (almost all open book) and we mainly had (ridiculously extensive) projects ("hah, that's for kids!").
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@sbi Agreed, reasoning is for the weak.
10:53
@CatPlusPlus mmmmm desert
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You guys made me actually look up "desert" vs. "dessert". Really, I should have know better.
@sbi I'm pretty sure thecoshman wrote the one he didn't intend to :)
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@RMartinhoFernandes With those inhabitants of the British Isles, you never know.
I might have posted that before. If so, I apologize.
I have 1776 rep and now my account must declare independence.
10:59
@RMartinhoFernandes I want the tasty one!

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