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12:00 PM
almost like Adam and Eve
also, if you'd have to ban somebody, you have to also kick out a person of opposite gender
 
How did @Community decide this was a dupe? Because... sending floats as text is not binary data. And sure as hell is not equivalent. Especially with float inexact representations, infinities, NaN and hardware independence. — sehe 9 secs ago
TIL "Community" has auto-dupe-hammer functionality
 
Wrong button.
 
nwp
12:04 PM
ROFL
 
Fitts' Law struck. It's quite ironic seeing the context :)
 
@sehe: Per note in tooltip text over "Community" in the revision history (clear as mud!) the author approved a pending dupe close vote. No idea why. I re-opened. — BoundaryImposition 11 secs ago
 
Thanks.
in Room for sehe and Telkitty, 1 min ago, by sehe
I wanted to make you room owner. For equality. Just a slip of the mouse earlier in the Lounge.
 
but women are not under represented in the other room
think about it, lounge has no female room owner & this is not politically correct
 
becoming room owner solely based on your gender is sexist
you should instead become room owner because you are an Asian
 
12:15 PM
@Telkitty Maybe I'll add rightfold.
@BoundaryImposition We have Mysticial.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes covers all your bases at least
 
@BoundaryImposition there is already the pie pi guy
 
@BoundaryImposition He's not Asian. Yet.
 
user1804599
Cicada is a woman.
 
This girls soccer team joined a boys league, and won it http://nyti.ms/2pAmdWo https://t.co/8Hc0b3i8H2
 
12:16 PM
Cicada is a room owner?!
 
@Telkitty I'm assuming you might be referring to Mysticial. [sic]
 
user1804599
Hmm.
 
@rightfold Just like Tina
 
@Telkitty but it has a fair representation based on those who frequent here
 
12:16 PM
Trolls like me are underrepresented.
 
user1804599
I have a great idea.
 
user1804599
 
user1804599
Then you guys can be happy too.
 
That your new avatar?
 
As a woman, I feel repressed here
 
user1804599
12:17 PM
You happy, me happy.
 
As a fan of metal, I feel repressed here
 
call teh feminists, quick!
 
then multiply in numbers!
 
user1804599
@thecoshman It's hot in here, please cool me down.
 
@thecoshman You're not alone
 
12:18 PM
@rightfold stop subjecting me to your stereotypes
 
user1804599
It's your fucking job.
 
user1804599
Metal fans cool people down.
 
@Telkitty you should go and reproduce
 
nwp
@Rerito way to ruin room owner chances while sounding nice
 
@littlepootis @RudiantoPrasetya is such a good one he drives the mean up to a reasonable trolling standard
 
12:19 PM
it isn't about feminism, it's about equality
 
@nwp I don't get it
 
you have 12 male room owner, no female one at all
 
@Telkitty so you want to be equal.. to what?
 
a room owner of course
 
@Telkitty 12 y.o., ftfy
 
12:20 PM
@thecoshman when you said this I was reminded of the scene from Monty Python's The Holy Grail
 
@Telkitty What if gender had nothing to do with the choice of the room owners?
 
@Rerito but DIVERSITY!
 
^
 
what cave are you from?!
 
nwp
@Rerito Repressed underrepresented people get to be room owners now. By saying that you ruined the underrepresentedness.
 
12:21 PM
we need QUOTAS
 
@nwp Oh, right
 
@Mgetz there's quite a few of them
 
also we need representatives from LGBT and n others
 
@Abyx We do have some sort of quotas.
Quotas for timezone coverage.
 
user1804599
Super interesting.
 
@Telkitty is perfect btw - she's female and she's not white
@rightfold would it get me jailed?
 
@Abyx racial slur! :D the proper word is «caucasian»
 
nwp
yeah, we need one of those transsexual black jewish disabled single mommy quota gods as a room owner
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@login_not_failed apologies, I'm not a racist, thus I don't properly understand that race thing of yours
 
12:25 PM
@Abyx nah, I'm messing with you :P
 
we don't call it racism, we call it multithreading problems
 
@login_not_failed and here was I thinking it was cracker
 
user1804599
@Abyx Well you live in Russia so pretty much anything could.
 
@nwp also she has to know programming, at least some BASIC stuff
 
kitty to the owners!
who wouldn't want to be domina owned by such goddess?
 
12:27 PM
@Mgetz 1800's galore
 
@Abyx sane people?
 
also we don't know yet that Kitty is not a bald fat guy with a beard, like the rest of us
 
@thecoshman definition of "sane" depends on what majority think
 
@Telkitty Have you looked around
 
12:28 PM
@Abyx only in a non deterministic anarchy
 
@login_not_failed I'm not bald
 
@Abyx how dare you!
 
@Telkitty Because everyone else is a room owner, of course
@Abyx Only one way to find out
 
It's either stupidity or trolling, either way, just disengage
 
@thecoshman it's kind of the point — nobody knows for sure
 
12:31 PM
@thecoshman or just something different from what you think
 
@nwp only if they refused to assign their kids gender at birth
 
… and vaccination, for the complete list
 
@login_not_failed I do believe her on that
 
-10
Q: How do it idont understand

Saad YattaI did not understand where the mistake was, even though my friend was working with him

 
If anyone really cared, there are other users who I believe are female that I would pick for owner long before telkitty.
 
12:39 PM
/cc @Mysticial
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes but you didn't
that says something ...
look, if you drag Kate Gregory over and make her a room owner, I am fine with that
 
@Telkitty No, I'm talking regulars.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes users like who?
 
@Abyx don't date programmers :D
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes you should take lessons from the volvo driver
 
12:52 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes and what do you mean "if anyone cared"? Shouldn't it be you who have to care about it, as a person responsible for the room?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes even if you don't drive it's worth having it for those moments
 
@nwp this is also what I've been arguing for but the mods here are openly racist
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes sounds high fiber
 
@Abyx I just care about covering the timezones.
@BartekBanachewicz I agree, but I have to weigh that against the hassle of fighting a legal battle.
 
just pay up for the goddamn fender and say you didn't notice
surely that doesn't warrant taking your licence away, c'mon
 
12:58 PM
@BartekBanachewicz not being believed is the problem
 
@BartekBanachewicz most people who run away from an accident will likely claim "not to have noticed"
so it obviously can't be a universally-accepted defence
 
@BartekBanachewicz That's what I'd hope for, but we'll see how it pans out.
@BoundaryImposition Exactly.
 
but he couldn't have hurt anyone
 
It's a standard excuse, I expect.
 
12:59 PM
taking the licence away should only apply where you could endanger someone
 
@BartekBanachewicz if nobody could trace him, he can't be found and made to pay for the damage.
@BartekBanachewicz well, to be fair, not knowing where the extents of your vehicle are at any given time is not exactly safe
 
@BoundaryImposition yeah but that should be penalized in the civil court and not with that
@BoundaryImposition there's a vast difference between "not noticing a scrape" and "not knowing where your vehicle is e.g. at high speeds"
 
@BartekBanachewicz civil courts don't have the right to hunt down unlicensed, untaxed, uninsured chavs who crash into people then drive off
it has to be a criminal issue, which is why in sane jurisdictions it is
 
@BoundaryImposition I mean this could apply to any activity, not just driving. The fact that he was driving doesn't really matter.
 
1:01 PM
@BartekBanachewicz arguably it's even worse at low speeds, because there's not really much of a defence
 
@BoundaryImposition property damage of such low scale shouldn't be a criminal issue imho
 
let's just agree that you're wrong to disagree
@BartekBanachewicz again, it's not about the damage itself
 
@BoundaryImposition driving a huge car that you're not used to is an excuse enough
 
@BartekBanachewicz it's not. shouldn't be driving it if you can't get used to it before going on the roads.
 
that's nonsensical
 
1:02 PM
"sorry I killed those ten people, m'lud; wasn't used to the car" "oh okay carry on"
 
@BoundaryImposition This sort of thing is another reason I'm willing to go with the license + damage. I consider myself morally innocent, and the damage is just property and really minor (it could hardly be much smaller, really), but after seeing the evidence, I know I am guilty.
 
with that logic 80% of people should lose their licences
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes you're certainly liable and arguably shouldn't really have even put yourself in a position for the mistake to occur, but yeah hopefully the auths will realise it was an honest mistake
 
I think everyone I know that has a licence had some minor bump or two
navigating a car in tight spots is hard w/o sensors/cameras etc.
 
I strongly support you (and others) being called up on it in the first instance though, unlike Bart here
@BartekBanachewicz right, and you don't just drive off afterwards without letting anyone know
 
1:03 PM
@BartekBanachewicz That's no excuse for being careless.
 
@BoundaryImposition if anything, he shouldn't have to prove that he wasn't escaping knowing well enough that it happened
 
people who do so often have something to hide
 
The opposite.
 
like, not being insured or having a licence at all
you want the rozzas to hunt those crims down
 
When things are hard, you must be even more careful.
 
1:03 PM
@BoundaryImposition yeah, if you notice
 
@BartekBanachewicz right, and if you didn't notice then you're likely a danger to yourself and others around you because how can you not notice (in general)
but let's agree to agree
 
@BartekBanachewicz man you're so Russian my Slavic brother
 
@BoundaryImposition I am pretty sure if I put you in passenger's seat and scraped just the plastic bumper you wouldn't notice
 
@Abyx hehe, your words not mine.
 
the engine noise is more than enough to cover up the sound of abs sliding
 
1:05 PM
It was an electric car!
(Not really, but it puts a bump in your case)
(In reality, I just wanted to make that pun)
 
and as a matter of fact I did do that once and I only realized once I passed the other car. Got out and it had just minuscule marks of dirt (wasn't even scratched)
@R.MartinhoFernandes of course it does. Point still stands.
the owner of the car was just coming back from the mall and she just shrugged and left
 
ITT you all need to go back to school
 
@BoundaryImposition also again parking scratches are a very narrow part of driving. You can have problems parking but otherwise be a decent (statistically) driver and you don't endanger anyone in any special way then
pretty much every single driver makes mistakes of some sort every now and then
but that's for "driving should be banned" argument, not for "people who scratch and don't notice should be prosecuted criminally", IMHO
 
@BoundaryImposition I won't. I really don't want to be driving, and I avoid it all the time.
 
I drove my Honda to work today <3
it was snowing yesterday and today is just perfect
#springweather
 
1:12 PM
I already decided that next time I'll just hire professional movers anyway. The whole moving thing is just too annoying, even without considering that it involves driving.
 
I got to drive the auto-moving thing lately, when we got my 2nd car here
 
@BartekBanachewicz that's reasonable
 
It was pretty scary
but in the end it was much cheaper than hiring people to do that for us and getting the car on and off it was actually pretty easy
but yeah moving is just annoying esp. if you have furniture
 
I've only moved once
no furniture to speak of so it wasn't so bad
mostly just the annoyance of packing up a whole gaff
also the lift was broken that day :(
actually if you count Uni when I had to move out and back in again three times a year, that was pretty annoying. but only one room rather than a whole flat or house, so...
 
yeah it tends to get worse every time
 
1:17 PM
@BoundaryImposition Hah, this time it was ground floor, thankfully.
 
@BoundaryImposition and copied all the other times?
 
I haven't had to move for the past two years and it feels great; I can't even imagine thinking about moving all that crap now
 
Parked the thing right by the front door. It was so easy.
 
@RudiantoPrasetya mais lol
 
@RudiantoPrasetya furniture elision
 
1:18 PM
named realtor-valued offer
 
Ell
@BoundaryImposition you american
we like to say "Estate Agent" here in the UK
 
you got me
I am an undercover American double agent
 
And secretly a male
@R.MartinhoFernandes You just threw it on the ground :)
 
1:40 PM
your faces
 
It was brought to my attention that, e.g., the TSA explicitly allows carrying lighters on planes.
How come we make concessions for smokers, but not for thirsty people?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Because they're unable to tell the difference between liquids that you drink and liquids that are used to make explosives.
At least that's what I've been read.
 
But liquids that are used to make fire inside devices that are used to make fire are ok?
(And fwiw, note that you can e.g. buy vodka at the duty free)
 
Duty free?
 
1:52 PM
@Morwenn The stores that are past the security checks.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Can you buy water there too?
 
Yes.
@Morwenn you can buy lighters there too, so there's really no reason to allow them in.
If you really must have a lighter on board (you can't smoke anyway!), just fucking buy one, like I have to buy water (I don't; I usually get it from the bathroom sink if it isn't horrible)
 
I guess they consider that lighters are too tiny and/or that filling them with anything would be too bothersome and just bringing a bomb would be easier?
I don't know, there some be some kind of logic.
I mostly don't take the plane anyway.
 
@Morwenn You can light vodka on fire?
With say, vodka-soaked paper from a newspaper?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes molotov cocktail
 
1:56 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes C'mon, only drunkards buy vodka D:
 
Given the universal ban on smoking (it is universal, right?) there's really no reason to claim you need a lighter on a plane.
 
@Morwenn dunno, my friend skips vodka and goes for EverClear
 
@Mgetz I guess it'd taste the same to me :p
 
@Feeds My heart skipped a beat there.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Not sure about DPRK.
 
1:58 PM
lol
 
@Morwenn it's really just an ABV issue
 
user1804599
omg my code
 
user1804599
its so good
 
I'm hungry.
 
@rightfold You'll think otherwise in six months. Or, well, a week.
 
2:17 PM
private List<String> allQuotes = Arrays.asList(wordsOfWisdom);
Type mismatch: cannot convert from List<String> to List<String>
1 quick fix available: Add cast to List<String>
Go home Java, you're drunk!
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes you're not permitted to put them in the hold (for obvious reasons), so unless you can & want to buy one at your destination, yes you have to carry them in the cabin
 
@BoundaryImposition You can put them in the hold if they are empty.
 
an empty lighter being top useful
 
A lighter in the hold is useless either way.
 
it's not useless when it comes out of the hold
 
2:19 PM
Disposable lighters are, well, disposable.
 
they're also not guaranteed to be available at the place you're travelling to
 
plus people might want to use the actual decent lighter they bought
 
@BoundaryImposition You can also put them in the hold full in an approved container bag.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I've never heard of that. Every airport I've ever gone through has explicitly stated you may only carry one (1) and only on your person
 
2:21 PM
@BoundaryImposition It says so in the TSA page on flammables.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes The TSA has zero jurisdiction over airports that I use.
 
34 mins ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
It was brought to my attention that, e.g., the TSA explicitly allows carrying lighters on planes.
Context.
 
Stop smoking. Problem solved.
Never start smoking. Problem solved ahead of time.
 
You did not state that you are only interested in facts and discussion relating to the USA
@Morwenn How narrow-minded of you.
@Morwenn What if you're an arsonist?
 
@BoundaryImposition Stop smoking anyway D:
 
2:22 PM
@Morwenn \o/
 
@rightfold Turns out cannot convert from List<String> to List<String> actually means you forgot to import List :)
 
user1804599
Doesn't matter.
 
user1804599
Don't use List. It's mutable shit.
 
I'm mutable shit too ç_ç
 
user1804599
List gives you bugs for free.
 
2:26 PM
Ladybugs are ok.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes That doesn't necessarily mean a whole lot. At one time corkscrews were both explicitly prohibited and explicitly allowed (i.e., they had lists of what was allowed and prohibited, and "corkscrews" was on both lists).
Speaking from personal experience, they took that to mean "we're confiscating your corkscrew".
 
@BoundaryImposition Fair enough. FWIW, I only take issue with the TSA-like rules. The "only a small liquefied gas lighter, only on your person"-style rules seem more reasonable.
The TSA allows, e.g. Zippo lighters.
 
TSA is stupid anyway. The whole "no water bottles" aspect is a total joke. What, are they chemically testing all the bottles that go to the airside shops? It's just political.
 
Though I guess even one of those small lighters is ok if you want to light up someone you soaked in vodka.
 
@rightfold Lists aren't necessary mutable, some List implementations throw UnsupportedOperationException if you try to mutate them ;)
 
user1804599
2:31 PM
Fucking terrible.
 
user1804599
Non-total functions.
 
The lighter is only needed to start the fire; the fuel is available at the duty-free.
 
@rightfold Java programmers: "We don't really care about static typing as long as code completion works."
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Hmm, yes I see that now. Your question is therefore confusing since 90% of its contents is about something unrelated to what you actually want to do. It also means that (stripping out the unrelated parts) your question is very short and does not show any research effort or attempts. A cynic might suggest you added the unrelated code merely to bypass SO's quality filter... — BoundaryImposition 3 mins ago
 
user1804599
@fredoverflow can I share that?
 
2:32 PM
@fredoverflow Then you have another generic List class that visible there?
 
Ell
@R.MartinhoFernandes or you could take out your laptop/phone battery and give it a stab :P
 
@Ell Laptops in cabin seem about to disappear.
 
Ell
nooooo
 
@Ell Though I find the argument for laptops much stronger than the argument for smoking utensils.
 
otherwise it should have errored on the List type
 
Ell
2:33 PM
I looked up a few weeks ago the maximum Ah allowed in cabin
 
@ratchetfreak Eclipse probably could not decide between java.util.List and jawa.awt.List even though Arrays.asList returns a java.util.List :(
 
Ell
it was very high, I'm going to find the figure again
 
@fredoverflow no that's the fault of the import semantics
 
Not internal European flights, thankfully.
 
2:33 PM
It would be safer to also ban passengers altogether.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes eh?
oh, again, US-only nonsense
 
if you import java.awt and import java.util then you shouldn't be able to use just List as a type because of ambiguous error
 
@ratchetfreak I can reproduce the behaviour by removing import java.util.List;
 
Ell
@BoundaryImposition well do flights from europe to US count as US-only nonsense?
 
2:35 PM
@Ell yes
 
@fredoverflow but is there a import java.awt.* (or any other package with a List class)?
 
as long as I can still watch The 100 when I fly to Ibiza and back I'm happy
anyway it'll never become a broad ban. far too disruptive for business travelers.
 
user1804599
@ratchetfreak You can only import classes directly.
 
@ratchetfreak I don't use import foo.* syntax with the asterisk, every import is explicit.
 
2:36 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes that's more relevant
 
Ell
I don't understand
why would they want to ban laptops?
 
@rightfold you can import packages
 
Ell
I know there is potential use for exploding them or w/e
 
because "someone could hide a bomb in it and set it off manually"
again it's political
 
Ell
but that hasn't happened before ever has it?
 
2:36 PM
@Ell Someone tried to smuggle plastic explosives as a battery or something.
 
no actual logic to it whatsoever
 
@BoundaryImposition I know Q_Q
 
@ratchetfreak import java.util; results in "only a type can be imported. java.util resolves to a package"
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes NB it would have passed xray if hidden in a not-laptop, which is obviously what the terrists will now do
 
@fredoverflow for a package you need to import java.util.*;
 
2:38 PM
@BoundaryImposition It's locking the doors after the house was robbed and playing whack-a-mole.
 
3 mins ago, by fredoverflow
@ratchetfreak I don't use import foo.* syntax with the asterisk, every import is explicit.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes yes
 
@fredoverflow just because you don't use it doesn't mean it's impossible
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes see also: cockpit doors post-11/9 are now "optimised" to be impossible to open from cabinside, directly causing the pilot-suicide crash of 2015 or whenever it was
policymakers are either completely incompetent, or really are just hoping we won't notice that they are randomly guessing after-the-fact
maybe both
 
Ell
@BoundaryImposition idk I think this one makes sense
 
2:40 PM
@Ell arguably a rogue passenger is more likely than a rogue pilot, but don't ruin my analogy please thanks
 
@ratchetfreak If by "import a package" you mean "import all types inside the package", then you are correct.
 
user1804599
You can also import static methods directly.
 
Anyway, my focus on the US policies is just because they're the "pioneers". There's a tendency for this bullshit to spread, sadly.
 
@fredoverflow "import package" is shorter and communicates all you need to know about it
 
@BoundaryImposition Sometimes they guess before-the-fact, which is arguably even sillier.
 
2:41 PM
@ratchetfreak It is also very bad style.
 
user1804599
Wildcard imports make code unreadable.
 
user1804599
They are always bad.
 
user1804599
Never use them in any language.
 
I let my IDE worry about the imports, I only care when a import isn't used and it generated a warning which I then clean up.
 
user1804599
Yummy, mushrooms.
 
2:48 PM
and my type names are unique enough that I could put it all in the same package and not get errors, I treat packages as more of a grouping for related classes and I work with my codebase enough to know where to find things
 
@Ell Also, that seems rather ineffective as a terrorist attack, no? How much damage can you cause with this?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes It's just a fire starter.
 
Ah. (I really didn't know what an exploding battery does)
Also funny, the TSA lists fire extinguishers under "flammables".
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3:03 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes well the laptop won't work any more, for a start
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes well... they do tend to have a paper sticker label... that may be inflammable, but I doubt that
 
3:22 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes puncturing is often enough to get a very fierce reaction going
 
user1804599
3:44 PM
How do you select everything in Vim?
 
user1804599
ggvG$ is super lame.
 
user1804599
Especially the $.
 
@rightfold I like how I can simply press Ctrl+A in sane editors.
 
@rightfold use V
 
user1804599
Thanks, awesome.
 
user1804599
3:51 PM
I didn't know about V.
 
:% is nice too.
:%y -> yank everything.
 
user1804599
Cool.
 
what's so nice about it? one just cannot remember those spells
 
what that V even stands for?
 
user1804599
3:53 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes How do I paste that in a new file without the extra newline?
 
user1804599
pkdd :P
 

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