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12:09 AM
@jaggedSpire I see
 
12:24 AM
What the heck do you have to do to get banned from SO chat? (asking for a friend)
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@Mysticial Hard line for Internet, not phone.
 
@Mikhail I think deliberately insulting a moderator, directly, while present, with uncouth language was one
maybe the last iteration of this meme was another?
@JerryCoffin am I recalling that you got banned by madara the mad moderator?
that entire week was a clusterfuck
 
@jaggedSpire I don't remember who did it, but yes I got banned once.
 
that was when Scott got himself banned, deleted his account and then made another account to piss them off
 
Even at the time, however, he admitted it was less about what I actually did than the fact that somebody had previously (when I wasn't around and hadn't noticed) caused some sort of trouble, so he was on a hair trigger at the time.
 
12:30 AM
ah
 
Nevermind, they are cat5e. The building is apparently too old to have had cat6 wired throughput.
 
looking through the transcript
and it started so well on November 25th
Dec 1 '15 at 20:46, by Madara Uchiha
Evening gentlemen
not the start of the incident, but I think it was the start of the showdown
you can probably find a few ways somewhere in there
 
Dec 3 '15 at 7:55, by Madara Uchiha
@sehe From what I understood, one of which was Nooble's sock, the other was Scott W (who was since suspended network-wide and requested deletion of their SO account, not necessarily in that order)
ah you beat me to it ish
 
Is Madara Uchiha his real name?
 
yes
 
definitely
 
May 5 '15 at 16:16, by Lightness Races in Orbit
Now either stand for election as a moderator, or stop bugging us with your broken opinions.
Apparently this was an ill-thought-out suggestion. I'm sorry.
 
@jaggedSpire hai gurl
 
@Borgleader what's a cool cat like you doin' in a place like this?
 
@jaggedSpire awww theyre so tiny
 
12:50 AM
^_^
 
@BartekBanachewicz No, this guy is great.
 
1:15 AM
Anyone has an idea how to answer to people that systematically answer you "Don't do it, instead call/pay a professional that will do it."
 
"Alright, thanks, I'll look into it"
 
@LoïcFaure-Lacroix On StackOverflow or in life?
 
Then proceed to change the topic and do it yourself anyways
 
@LoïcFaure-Lacroix answer 'only for dumb people'
I do plenty of things that I wasn't trained for
you just learn on demand
 
1:18 AM
It's usually their go-to suggestion when they themselves don't have the expertise to answer your question, so there's no point in trying to get any other response
 
this is what an intelligent, flexible & hand on person do
 
@LoïcFaure-Lacroix IDK, typically they are trying to trade money for time. You need to convince them its either too much money, or that the thing isn't actually available. The later is most persuasive.
 
@Aaron3468 it's not even asking me question, it's me saying i'm going to do it
trading money for time is them trading my money for my time...
so I'd rather do it myself that paying for it
 
most of things can be learned
you might not be doing it as well as a professional
but come on, most things are not that complicated
 
@LoïcFaure-Lacroix Sometimes they're right, but if you didn't ask, then politely say you'll look into it. If you really have to, you can talk about how sometimes you save money doing it your way.
 
1:20 AM
@Telkitty it's people assuming that I'm a programmer and only know how to code... silly people
 
I got told multiple times to 'refer to a professional'
but 1) saving money to do something yourself 2) you learn something you might be able to use later on in your life
 
If they are your supervisor, the money-for-time trade is entirely their call. The killer counter argument is that the thing they are trying to buy doesn't exist or is in some way not possible unless you do it yourself.
 
it's my mother in law
 
Programmers, I find, are often the same people that masochistically try to do things themselves. Often to the point of taking on projects way too big for them.
 
@LoïcFaure-Lacroix ask her 'are you paying?'
 
1:22 AM
This is how most technical people became technical, so its a good thing. Unless you came from a well to do family, and could have cruised through life without hard work.
 
@Aaron3468 that's quite possible
 
I am not best one with words, but I am usually straight to the point
 
@Telkitty well this is probably the thing I'll say when she'll tell me how much people are estimating some works I'd do myself
being straight to the point is my problem right now, she thinks I'm an angry bastard
 
Tell her they won't do it right, or some other customization that you need to do.
 
@LoïcFaure-Lacroix Yeah, it's a great thing because we dive into new skills and generally accomplish things other people are afraid to try. It's also bad when we end up 300% over-budget and five weeks past the deadline. As I say, the least 'hostile' response is usually "okay, I'll look into it"
 
1:25 AM
@Mikhail I'm certain they won't do it right, previous workers she found for some simple tasks really deceived me... she ask to install a door that is supposed to be installed on appartments and some cheap windows... result ice getting inside the house during winter
 
There are people whose hobbies are making problems for themselves. I'd just "let it go".
 
@LoïcFaure-Lacroix I think if someone doesn't get the point when I am just being straight forward, then obviously either they can convince me with a reasonable explanation of their own or they are deluded and can not accept simple fact.
@LoïcFaure-Lacroix lol are you even surprised
 
@Telkitty don't ask me about it
 
"Memorial Bariatric Services" <- What an unfortunate name.
 
Tradesman do a better job at the thing be more presentable, it will simply look better. They will also make things to have the basic functionality. But a trained engineer who is interested in the thing can do a better job functionality wise.
@LoïcFaure-Lacroix also, if you don't mind me asking, do you have many failed experiments?
 
1:35 AM
not really
but she keep blaming me for work done by other people, and work that I claimed were temporary because my wife was pregnant and we had like 3 months to convert a shithole into something where we can live
 
maybe pay someone to do urgent stuff and do everything else yourself when you have time to come up with more permanent solution
 
but is completely ignoring things I fixed and that works like they never worked in 20 years
It was last year, things are more stable now, and I'm up for serious stuff
I was planning temporary things in that area because that region of the house is in all honesty going to fall soon or later, it's been badly built and it's just falling apart. There was no point to spend a lot of money there
 
Sounds like a normal mother-in-law who isn't convinced you're right for her daughter and wants to be involved in her daughter's life the wrong way
 
A better person would tell you to seduce your mother-in-law in an attempt to win her over. Then you can build your kitchen/cabinet/whatever in peace.
 
1:45 AM
I can confirm that works.
 
seduction isn't my strong ability unfortunately
knowing that I'm technically doing the repair for her house without considering all the things I do for her, I'm wondering what else can I do to earn a little of respect...
 
Nothing, move on. Here, I wrote you a song:
 
this guy
this guy is what I call detail-oriented
was that a password
 
2:02 AM
for lockscreen so don't worry
finally got one of my cheap chisel to actually cut wood
 
to make decent products you actually need a lot of tools
unless you are a pro ...
decent tools are not cheap
but if you have a lot of tasks, then tools are worth it
 
2:19 AM
@Telkitty lot of tools is right except some tools can be cheap. For example, cheap chisels just have to be sharpened well.
I spent more on sandpaper than on the chisel themselves
 
@LoïcFaure-Lacroix Sandpaper to sharpen chisels?? Aren't you supposed to use a sharpening grinding stone of some sort?
 
Technically a lot of hand tool can be made from scrap even more if you have a furnace but the furnace is a complicated thing
@Telkitty well the sharpening stone would be nice, but sandpaper is the only thing available over here and I'm at 600 grit and it's already decent
I'm going up to 2000 but the stones would be 200times more expensive than sandpaper
 
using sandpaper to sharpen chisel would be awfully expensive
 
in the longrun, stones could end up cheaper
 
stone is once off and a lot quicker to sharpen your chisel on
 
2:24 AM
Well, I spend 1.83 USD for 4 chisel, and 4.84 for sandpaper that will last me for a while
The stones I can buy locally are around 25$ per stone
I have other stones at home but they're too coarse to get a nice cutting edge. And the grinder seems to cut way too much metal easily so by hand it gives a much better result
 
grinder is hard to control
 
yes and the metal gets hot
 
that too
 
but sandpaper isn't as bad as it sound, get the sandpaper that is water resistant thought
one thing I'd love to have is a furnace
 
err ...
 
2:36 AM
but it's a bit complicated and dangerous
 
but things you can make out of furnace are usually not so expensive
 
depends what you're doing
 
like?
 
you can make mechanical parts that you couldn't buy anywhere
or would be quite expensive for some gears
but if you're artistic you can make things like knives that you can sell for a fairly good price
until we have 3d-printer that can print Iron alloys or carbides, furnace still have their places
 
I dunno, we do a lot of tradies work here because tradesmen here cost USD $60 - $75 an hour and usually starting price is quoted from at least 1 hour.
 
2:47 AM
In the US its half the price, unless they are some bullshit union electrician
 
Yeah... I definitely need to buy more ram and figure out what process is not releasing ram.
 
3:15 AM
Hmm, might have found it. EasyAntiCheat. Now I just need to figure out what program installed it and how to fix the issue
 
3:33 AM
> German Interview with Horia Duciu states Anet has grown to nearly 400 employees
@SpongyFruitcake you think something is up? outside of an obvious expansion?
 
is it "nearly" on a log scale
inb4 GW3
 
 
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4:54 AM
Hmmm... through troubleshooting my ram usage, I've learned that if you don't know the exact source of a problem most suggestions online are just placebo or cleanup of old garbage which won't actually solve the problem.
 
Halp!
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@fredoverflow What? I hope this is not real.
 
6:29 AM
@wilx what. you sacrificed your rep?Really?
 
relax
 
@ProblemSlover What?
 
@Telkitty with you ? :D
@wilx is that your throw out SO account?
 
@ProblemSlover No. This is my grabbing at straws account.
 
Hi guise
 
6:36 AM
It is time for so-called professional media to stop giving space to proven charlatans. I mean you: CNN, MSNBC, Guar… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/856741258341036032
I almsost thought that It's trump tweet
 
6:52 AM
Is array length part of the arrays type in c++?
Is somebody willing to talk templates/types?
 
nwp
@Horttanainen This is a self-help group. You wouldn't bring vodka to alcoholics anonymous, would you?
20
 
@Horttanainen I think you want to ask how the compiler figures out N from std::size_t array_size(const T (&)[N]); ?
It's a magic.
 
@DeanSeo I want my SFINAE to recognize a case where user passes to c-style strings as parameters
If I store the parameters to variables before passing them to my function everything works okay. But if I give those directly to the function their types become 'const char[10]' and 'const char[2]' instead of 'const char*'. std::decay_t does not help
 
nwp
7:07 AM
@Horttanainen this is a job for Q&A
@Horttanainen behold the might of +
 
@Horttanainen Well, you do realize that void Bar(char[10]) decays to void Bar(char*), right?
 
@DeanSeo It seems not to
 
Ok.
 
Is there a online msvc compiler?
 
nwp
@Horttanainen webcompiler.cloudapp.net but I haven't figured out how to create share links there
 
7:19 AM
@nwp Thanks
 
7:37 AM
@ProblemSlover I thought it was about Trump, or his circus
 
8:04 AM
@Horttanainen yes
 
@BartekBanachewicz I figured that out. It made half of my hair turn grey.
 
@Horttanainen I believe that's a solved problem
 
Ven
Yo
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WessiCannot load message class for .... Are your messages built?

oh they edited
 
user1804599
8:20 AM
delete
 
@Ven +1 for your comment
 
9:21 AM
2>  INTERNAL COMPILER ERROR in 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio 14.0\VC\bin\CL.exe'
2>      Please choose the Technical Support command on the Visual C++
2>      Help menu, or open the Technical Support help file for more information
 
nwp
9:39 AM
@Morwenn found either your soul mate or a smurf account
although no trailing return types means not a smurf account
 
user1804599
@SpongyFruitcake I'd have some ICE cream with my spongy fruitcake please.
 
9:58 AM
shit it's raining on saturday
 
@Michael.P ... and, as you just said, "some magic number" you add "with another" to get "sqrt(2)".
One such magic number is sqrt(2). Add it to 0 and you get sqrt(2).
Even if you get such a "magic number" to add to 0 and 1, how do you get from that to i?
 
0 is a magic number
 
Ell
3 is the magic number
 
@BoundaryImposition Nice :D
 
10:13 AM
1 is the magic number
 
in the meantime BMW is selling a motorbike with a carbon fiber frame
 
@Michael.P Basically, this "realization" is wrong. Prime counterexamples are all the numbers involved in the equation you mention that aren't 0 or 1: the base of the natural logarithm, the imaginary unit, and the ratio of a circle's circumference to its diameter.
@Michael.P Here's an example, using Binet's formula: φ-ψ/sqrt(5) = 1. Does this mean that the golden ratio, its reciprocal, and the square root of five all "exist in unity"?
 
10:36 AM
@nwp It's true that the style is close to mine :p
 
11:10 AM
@Morwenn you don't use { on newline garbage do you
 
@SpongyFruitcake I used to have { on every newline a few monthd ago, but I'm changing that on-the-fly in cpp-sort when I change files, so there are still many inconsistencies.
Also, I've got { on a new line for function and class declarations.
 
unacceptable
 
I started using { on the same line when I started unrolling algorithms for a small number of values x)
 
@SpongyFruitcake What's wrong with Allman?
 
All of it
 
11:15 AM
@SpongyFruitcake Not good enough
 
utter garbage
 
Ell
@Horttanainen oh no
 
@SpongyFruitcake ???
 
mais lol
 
11:33 AM
KNF best form
 
1TBS or ban
 
11:57 AM
@fredoverflow this can't be real
 
12:11 PM
> This process may include de-Googling™, which may or may not include removal of all Android devices from your person and in more severe cases, an invasive rectal exam.
yes, it's not real
 
Pacific Rim 2 is in prod :3
soo can't wait
 
ooooh
 
user1804599
12:28 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Is this when you get an underwater rimjob?
 
user1804599
@RafaelCamposNunes It's pretty real:
 
user1804599
> This process may include de-Googling™, which may or may not include removal of all Android devices from your person and in more severe cases, an invasive rectal exam. Please come pre-lubed and memorize the asymptotes of all algorithms used within the last 2,500 years, including those used in early agriculture by agrarian Gaulish peasants.
 
@BartekBanachewicz ye
 
@Shoe so you probably disagree with this refactoring
 
1:16 PM
Who here works at Atlassian?
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Would anybody be crazy enough to admit to it, even if it were true?
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum What do you want to rant about? City confluence search? Tired of JIRA zealots in your management team?
 
wait what's wrong with Atlassian
 
Our JIRA cloud thing is down and they don't answer support.
 
asking for a friend
 
1:18 PM
I figured I'd rather find someone working there than complain publicly
 
nah, I don't work there. I work at a small company that's grown larger in recent years
...why the hell do multiple software companies with products targeting developers advertise on NPR's Marketplace?
 
Ven
@rightfold TIL
 
The login issues are our top priority and we apologize for the inconvenience. Please follow http://status.atlassian.com/ for details and updates.
 
Ven
i didn't know they changed what $a->$b[$c]; meant.
 
could that be related?
 
1:22 PM
BTW @Luc did you follow the déboires of DirectSong/Jeremy Soule thingy?
 
o well, time for work
 
@jaggedSpire D:
You should work in the fulff industry.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes the answer to that is somewhat esoteric and is concealed in what I suggested way back in the conversation: sum of everything in this Universe likely to be zero.
 
@Morwenn what is this fulff you speak of? I only know about fluff :P
 
We know already that mass and energy are in fact the same thing, for instance, and if you look at other fenomenae studied one of the things that might come to mind is, as someone said: "I won't be surprised if the Big Equation binding Relativity, Quantum Mechanics and String Theory, will be some 16th century equation for a spring in a liquid". I.e. everything is intertwined, related.
 
1:24 PM
@jaggedSpire I should work in the typo industry ._____.
 
but mmmm, harvesting marvelous soft fluff all day long
@Morwenn :P
 
@jaggedSpire thanks
 
Think about it :p
 
but they say they're gonna get me back to C++ soon
and it'll be MSVC2015 this time (or even 2017, excite) so no dealing with 2013-derived obscenity
ssshhhhh
I want to pretend that time is soon, not Soon (TM)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes So you might consider, again, as I said, if e^(i*pi) are related, and through some non-existent way can be expanded to define i in set of real numbers then it would only make perfect sense. As otherwise, without "transitional" bridge from zero->natural numbers->etc., universe would not provide a way for i to exist in the first place. It would never appear in equations and we would not know of it.
 
1:28 PM
welp soon's stopped looking like a word
toodles
@Morwenn <3 have a good day
 
Joe
is this sentence correct in english : sound intensity in this area causes an unorder acoustic oscillation of the ultrasonic waves
does unorder fit here
 
@Michael.P that just uses the exp(x) powerseries where if plug pi into only the odd powers and swap the sign on every other odd power you end up with 0
 
@SpongyFruitcake from very far afar
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes because—and I have to emphasize on it—Universe is all too likely to be zero in value, and everything that we see and are, is elaborate and stable(!) expansion of it. And if it is expanded zero, then it means that there HAS to be a primitive balancing term even for i. However, this conjecture is not restricted to mere numbers. Perfect example of this is Pi, which, if it is defined in "Universal Equation", is likely to be some kind of Maclaurin expansion.
Which is in turn undefined as finite sequence, ~because it diverges :|
@ratchetfreak I was proposing ~impossibility of solving for i in e^(i*pi)+1=0
@ratchetfreak If it was solved, then I BE DAMMED, give me a link
 
that's what complex numbers are for
use the fact that i*i = -1 and plug i*pi into the power series
 
1:38 PM
@ratchetfreak Sure. Tell me, is this condition satisfied sqrt(-1)<0 ?
 
complex numbers are not ordered
so less than is meaningless
 
@ratchetfreak not ordered implies that it is undefined in set of real numbers, right?
 
I started browsing Porsche cars on sale and it's really sad
they easily go over 250k €
(used ones)
 
@jaggedSpire Thanks :3
 
@BartekBanachewicz not mentioning the insurance, fuel costs, maintenance, ...
 
1:41 PM
My max budget for a car is like 5k€ :D
 
@ratchetfreak and yet wee see an equation, which I am tired of writing, e^(i*pi)+1=0 that shows that there is a link to provide a definition for i for set R. Thus making i<0 or i>=0 well-defined
Sorry. There Can be a link
 
it would mean that e^(i*pi)=-1 => e^(t)<0 and with e>0 this is impossible in R
 
@ratchetfreak a base Cayman is said to use 6.4-7.2 L/100km. That's less than my car
 
@BartekBanachewicz before or after dieselgate?
 
and the insurance isn't actually high at all. It's much more expensive when you're a new driver than when you have a Porsche
@ratchetfreak they don't have diesel engines, silly
well some do but noone cares about those
 
1:44 PM
@ratchetfreak OHHH good point, mister.
 
@BartekBanachewicz does stop them from fudging the numbers anyway
 
@Michael.P correct me if I am plugging into this discussion in a wrong time and place, but this Euler equation makes sense and is usable only in certain math domains like group theory, and it is hard to operate directly in a plain algebraic way, which you are trying to do
 
@login_not_failed also a good point.
 
@ratchetfreak anyway, even if it's slightly higher that's still on par with my car
given that the base model has 300HP, I wouldn't mind paying that much for gas
@ratchetfreak maintenance is what's gonna be more expensive though
 
@ratchetfreak Omg!
@ratchetfreak That's Exactly what Godel had in mind.
 
1:52 PM
it's just so sad
 
Which in my butchered way will sound as: in any well-defined set, to provide a unificator, another definition outside of defined scope has to be introduced. Thus, a well-defined set can't be unified, because if it is unified it is not well-defined (unificator, as stated, is always outside the scope)
 
those cars are just a different kind of money
 
status symbols more than a method of transport
 
you're thinking ferraris now, not Porsche
 
when you can get mostly the same car at a quarter of the price it's a status symbol
 
1:59 PM
@ratchetfreak what's "mostly the same car"?
I can't readily think of any car "mostly the same" to the 911 I've been browsing for a quarter of their price
 
granted 911s are a breed of their own
 
I can think about TT, Scirocco and Celica
but scirocco and tt are basically VW Golf rehash
I'd rather just buy a Golf R
and Celica stopped being made in 2006
actually scratch that, their biggest engine was 1.8 so not even remotely comparable
350Z could work but good ones are expensive nvm 2-seater
 
@Michael.P sounds reasonable even in this «butchered» way :)
 
@sehe I'll be around Rotterdam for about a week starting tomorrow. Hit me up if you wanna grab a beer or something.
@Michael.P I can't be help but notice the use of "all too likely" to mean "there's no reason to believe so"
Or "the following makes zero sense" (see, zero!)
@Michael.P no, it does none of that.
@Michael.P this makes sense, for a given definition of "unificator" that makes it make sense.
(Iow wtf is a unificator?)
 
2:14 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I use "all too likely", so picky people wouldn't say that I can't define, nor analytically prove anything. As it is a conversation, not a thesis.
 
@Michael.P you mean like click bait?
 
@Michael.P but there's nothing pointing to its likelihood. How can it be all too likely?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes had to go and create a word there. Unificator is a noun, deriving from the word Unify, meaning something that provides unity.
 
If it is so likely, it should be easy to show a smidgen of it.
@Michael.P which means?
 
@ratchetfreak more like a room for retrieving should there be a mathematician here.
@ratchetfreak because again. Would I be proving something, this conversation be very different
@R.MartinhoFernandes You know how Newton battled tangent lines? With a completely new structure which was not previously defined -> limits. That should clarify it for you
 
2:19 PM
No, it doesn't.
What do limits "provide unity" to?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Okay. Restate your question and I will answer it.
 
What does it mean to "provide unity to a set"?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Set, in this context, is not a mathematical term. Imagine you have electricity and magnetism, well defined things. Electromagnetism is a unificator. Although I cannot explicitly point to it, I'm sure, even on wiki, you will find something that makes direct unison of these fields impossible. So, again, it is likely, that Maxwell used something "out of the box" - a.k.a something previously undefined for either of these fields. That something might well be dubbed Maxwell Equations.
@R.MartinhoFernandes it wouldn't if there was a dependant variable in that equation.
 
Gee, man, if you're going to write something that sounds like a mathematical theorem, don't use well-known mathematical terms like "set" to mean something entirely different that doesn't even make sense when taking "set" as a layman's term.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes do I have to repeat myself? "Would I be proving something, this conversation be very different"
 
2:27 PM
@Michael.P we didn't discover i. We made it up.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes yes. And yet it appears in Eulers equation.
So, no.
 
@Michael.P you don't have to prove anything, but by doing this you just either make people confused or you sound like an idiot.
@Michael.P Euler's equation isn't some fundamental underpinning of the universe.
See, i appears in many other equations.
 
Is it the "were maths discovered or invented" debate?
 
You seem to be attributing some mystical qualities to these numbers and to this equation.
@EtiennedeMartel more like "maths is magic".
 
> An equation for me has no meaning, unless it expresses a thought of God.
A quote from Ramanujan.
 
2:31 PM
@Michael.P euler equation came after we made up i
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes what is then?
@EtiennedeMartel Well, everything I said belongs to me. That's all the difference
 
@Michael.P Do you miss the point on purpose?
 
any native engrish speakers here?
 
I speak engrish regularly.
 
> The news is broken and we can fix it.
why "is"?
 
2:34 PM
@EtiennedeMartel you miss the point of your existence.
 
is "the news" singular?
 
@EtiennedeMartel Ah, pardon me for being rude. I misread
 
Anyway, attempts at making maths some kind of divine construct have been made before. Maths are perfect, right? They can't possibly have been made by us imperfect humans. Well, they're "perfect" because we conveniently took out all the rules that would have broken it.
 
@Abyx uncountable I believe
 
@EtiennedeMartel now, I don't understand what he meant at all.
 
2:37 PM
@Michael.P He thought maths were the language of God.
 
@EtiennedeMartel I already stated to another lad, would it be that plain, the mathematics would not provide insight into the future, or otherwise undiscovered things.
 
Well if our models get good enough maybe we can get decent predictions out of them.
 
@EtiennedeMartel If you like to quote famous people, then well, perfect example would be Einstein's "Worse blunder"
 
history lesson, the imaginary numbers were a thing back in the 1500's and the link with the exponential operation was only made in the 1700's
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Cool. I'm superbusy but we can work something out, maybe (are you on discord?)
 
2:41 PM
@EtiennedeMartel you know what that quote stands for? It's when Albert put an exression which made no physical meaning, but perfect mathematical sense. ~70 years later Dark Matter and Dark Energy discovered - being accountable for that expression
 
It's interesting about how things that fit do fit. A lot of other things don't fit though, and we never stop to ponder about why they don't.
 
@ratchetfreak so?
@EtiennedeMartel now. About never. Even with that, there are numerous works showing that you couldn't be more wrong.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Took me almost five minutes to realize that was a beard, not a smudge on his lens.
 
2:53 PM
> Je suis en amour omg
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@Michael.P lolwut
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Heretic! (As anybody who's hung around with Etienne for a while knows perfectly well, friendship is magic!)
 
Hindsight bias is a thing.
Texas sharpshooter fallacy, etc.
 
3:05 PM
Hindsight is bootiful
 
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Q: Class of the class name

RikAs it is implied by the title I want to know what is the class of the class name in C++? for example: class baseClass { //class definition }; what is the class of baseClass?

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3:21 PM
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Ven
4:04 PM
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45 10  1  56
30  5  5  40
 0  5 17  22
75 20 23 118
@rightfold can I make this one simpler, with no variable?
I should be able to use atops. I think.
{(⊣⍪+⌿)⍵,+/⍵}
Much better.
 
user1804599
4:37 PM
No idea.
 
user1804599
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4:47 PM
so
would it be possible to fork say Clang to add runtime reflection information to C++ code
this just struck me
it'd be enough if it dumped the class data into the resulting binary so that the code can read that in runtime
 
@BartekBanachewicz ThePhD and I discussed that here a while back
Can't search it atm
 
mmkay
just an idea
 
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