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7:02 PM
@EtiennedeMartel: Take this test. I am curious about your result. celebritytypes.com/feminism-5/test.php
 
Already did.
Can't remember my results though.
I'll do it again.
 
Oh.
I have tweeted my result.
 
I'm usually wary of these kinds of tests, though. They tend to simplify a shitload of things.
I don't understand my score of cultural feminism, though. I thought I made it clear that I don't think differences between men and women matter in any case.
 
What's Marxist feminism?
 
7:15 PM
Hmm
 
There's the definition they use at the bottom of the results page, just a second.
> Marxist Feminism holds that the mode of production in capitalist societies is organized in a way that favors men’s abilities over women’s. As opposed to Radical Feminists, who see patriarchy as the source of gender inequality, Marxist Feminists see capitalism as the cause.
> Marxist Feminists argue that the structures of capitalist economies coerce women into assuming responsibility for unpaid domestic tasks (such as homemaking and child-rearing) while leaving men free to earn money in the public sphere. Gender equality can therefore never be achieved in a capitalist economy.
As I grow older I slowly turn into a dirty communist so that's not surprising.
 
nwp
I thought young people were communist until they wisen up
 
These days it's being a libertarian
 
7:24 PM
I can't take the test. Too many things I don't want to answer.
 
 
Not a commie
 
@Borgleader damn
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Can't you submit question with the slider in the middle?
 
That's not the same as "I don't know", I think.
 
7:28 PM
Yeah, I thought the middle meant "neutral".
 
I answered middle to everything
Got all 50%
 
:)
 
I guess I can pick middle as "I don't know"
 
nwp
"Giving women the vote was a mistake." doesn't seem like something anyone would be neutral towards.
 
7:40 PM
A commie. :D
 
I keep noticing that python file operations like shutil.move or os.remove benefit from multi-threading (or fork() in this case). For example, 3 scripts run 50% faster compared to 1 script. I'm thinking I need to write my rsync replacement in C++... (sorry I spent the last week watching files copy)
 
Answered a bunch of neutrals for "I don't know"
@wilx given that 50% is the default, I see it more like not a commie, but not anti-commie either
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yeah.
 
So I'm just really liberal, not very traditional, and couldn't care less about patriarchs, commies, or whatever the green ones are about.
Relevant propaganda poster:
I've been reading a lot on the Cold War lately and red scare propaganda fascinates me endlessly
 
@EtiennedeMartel phew, turns out both me and my GF are mostly libfems so crisis averted
86% for me, 77% for her
@R.MartinhoFernandes high five
 
7:56 PM
-lfem
 
so I think I kinda fucked up my monad stack
previously I had (Either Error Result, Context), and now it all got under Either
the problem is that now you can't see what state you ended up with when the error happened
 
8:13 PM
mhm
I think the fundamental problem is that I left the monaderror choice to the user
 
hi there
 
8:28 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Well, the propaganda from the other side is similar.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes some people are at work
 
@EtiennedeMartel Eh, I'm apparently a liberal feminist, then marxist, then radical, then cultural.
Still a good 20% traditionalist.
I think that non-binary trans people should rule the world. Period.
Is troll a gender?
 
@Mikhail Damn ._____.
 
nwp
8:44 PM
I wonder how much apt-get install gcc-7 -t experimental would screw up my system
and I wish apt uninstall or revert existed
 
@nwp That's one of the many reasons why I keep a dedicated sandbox machine to testing shit like that.
 
gentoo master race
 
@Morwenn idk, but attack helicopter is.
 
@Borgleader Nah, it's a sexual identification.
 
oh, damn :(
my bad
 
8:49 PM
@Morwenn I believe it's a race
 
@Borgleader Don't by sorry. I still love you the same ♥
 
9:01 PM
@Michael.P The race to the bottom, to be specific.
 
I don't want to sleep right now, but I don't have motivation to do anything relevant x)
 
@Morwenn That wholly depends on how much love their previously was, and that could be 0 ;)
 
@JerryCoffin I wonder where the troll asking branch prediction questions goes
 
I am the troll asking branch prediction questions.
Therefore it goes in the Lounge.
 
@Morwenn It is all nice and tight, until you realise that it all implies that Lunge is the bottom
 
9:06 PM
It might as well be.
I like it bottom-up.
My mergesort.
 
@Mgetz oh shit, sorry.
 
@Morwenn This is not the enlightenment I came for
 
@wilx yeah but while I'm still a beginner in Russian it's hard to appreciate.
 
ScY
@Morwenn Top-down masterrace
 
@Michael.P What exactly did you come here for?
@ScY To be honest I implemented the top-down flavour in my library.
Time to get rid of my top /o/
 
9:10 PM
@Morwenn You should add the bottom-up variety. When it comes to merge sort, bottom up is clearly the superior approach.
 
@JerryCoffin Plus it's adaptive and has O(1) depth.
 
@Morwenn Obviously enough, to eavesdrop on some sacred knowledge available only to tranquil Lounge-dwellers.
 
I should also implement the ping-pong merge optimization.
@Michael.P That's exactly what you've been doing for half an hour x)
 
*You win this round*
I do have to look up what's the thing with branch predictions.
 
9:24 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I happen to be working at home, but it is still something people should be conscious of
 
@nwp If not neutral, I'm at least fairly ambivalent about it. On one hand, I think it's the right thing to do. On the other hand, countries that disenfranchised women until relatively recently (e.g., Switzerland) don't seem to have suffered terribly from doing so either. Probably its single biggest strength is (roughly) doubling the number of people who take the blame when somebody like Trump gets elected.
 
nwp
@JerryCoffin That is still clearly in the "disagree" area. "Was a mistake" implies there were significant disadvantages that could have been avoided.
 
@nwp While true, I doubt that's how they're interpreting it.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Johan says you broke my kefir bread so fuck you for breaking my kefir bread.
 
@nwp I'd guess they're treating it essentially similar to: "It is (really good | good | neutral | bad | really bad) that women have the right to vote."
I'm the first to admit, however, that I could be wrong about that. Overall, I'd say the test is poorly written, so it's frequently likely to produce results that correlate poorly with the real feelings of the person taking the test (in particular, it's...littered with jargon that many people are likely to misunderstand, so what they intend to say, and how that's interpreted are quite different.
For one obvious example, it uses the phrase "male gaze". A lot of people who have perfectly reasonable attitudes toward women, but don't happen to know how Laura Mulvey defined that term when she coined it, probably think it just means something about how most men view women--when it's actually defined specifically as a form of objectifying women.
Personally, I think it's a fine example of feminists defining terms in misleading ways in an attempt at making their foregone conclusion inevitable. And no, I'm not saying that this is unique to feminists (or women)--but that many do engage in the practice nonetheless.
 
9:53 PM
@EtiennedeMartel There were a lot of questions where the answers were very complicated or depended on the situation.
 
nwp
@JerryCoffin Would still be clearly on "really good" for me because in my opinion you need a good reason to forbid people from doing things, no negative consequences is not enough. But I agree that there is too much ambiguity for the meaning of the questions.
 
 
nwp
huh, apparently I have a comparatively high traditionalist score, would not have expected that
 
am also surprised by how high my traditionalism score was
 
nwp
I think if one was to check which answers give how many percent to which group the survey would lose the rest of its legitimacy.
 
ScY
9:58 PM
@Puppy No need to be surprised. That test is complete bullshit.
 
agree
 
10:13 PM
@JerryCoffin Is there some C++ standard that avoids dynamic allocations, like would be used for embedded or car computers? (and how is it enforced by the compiler?)
 
car computers are full-on Android now
hardly dynamic allocation free
 
@Mikhail There is (or at one time was) something called 'embedded C++', which eliminates/eliminated some features. I don't remember whether it eliminated dynamic allocation or not. There are also coding standards like JSF and MISRA C++ that have rules about use of dynamic allocation. I'm not sure that any compiler directly enforces those rules though.
 
MISRA just depressed me
 
@Puppy Yes and no. Onboard entertainment systems use Android. I don't think anybody's using Android in anything like an engine control module. I certainly hope not, anyway.
@Mikhail Some rules probably can't be enforced by automated tools, at least without a fair amount of human guidance. For example, the JSF guidelines do actually allow dynamic allocation--but only during initialization. Once the system is up and running, no more new. I doubt a compiler can determine that cutoff point on its own.
@Puppy While I can understand that, I have to admit that I found it less objectionable than I expected. Then again, my original expectation was low enough that you probably shouldn't read too much into that.
 
Ell
10:36 PM
@BartekBanachewicz the fundamental problem is monad transformers :D
 
@Ell directed by Micheal Bay?
Autobots dont roll out, you'd have a side effect if you did.
 
Ell
haha
 
@Borgleader Your mere existence causes side effects, you impure...um....something or other.
 
Ell
while we're sharing
-.-
 
nwp
@Ell that is almost @wilx level
 
Ell
10:47 PM
I don't understand why they use %
 
@Ell Makes their nearly random opinions look a lot more like hard data.
 
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz where is this from?
 
nwp
11:11 PM
"Ah! My Goddess" turned so dark past episode 20, really didn't expect that
 
it did?
Can't remember. Long time ago :)
 
nwp
it went from "will he finally kiss her" into "will humanity be incinerated" within a few episodes
 
@Borgleader
> for beginning, how to chioce a efficiently compiler?
 
lol
 
^^ Putting aside the obvious lack of English proficiency. How would you try to interpret that out of context.
Or rather, how many ways could you read it?
 
11:28 PM
obvious troll is obvious
" Chinatown, New York, NY, United States "
user7888582, Chinatown, New York, NY, United States
1
 
lol, I didn't notice.
 
11:40 PM
I'm almost tempted to vote to reopen so it'll get a chance to collect more downvotes before it gets deleted...
 
@nwp dunno about OMG as I haven't watched it, but with some anime series you can clearly distinguish the parts taken from the source material, and the parts which were not. In particular, when the anime overtakes a long-running manga so the anime creator has to come up with something original
It may be the case with OMG because the anime is ~24 eps and the manga was running for 25 years or so
I can count anime with fingers on both of my hands where the last 2-3 eps have the plot "great evil villain arrives from pretty much nowhere, defeats everyone, but leaves the main characters alive for enough time they make a strategy to repeal the bad guy, the villain is defeated, and you get a montage where everyone is happy"
 
@nwp Is that a good show? I have some songs from it on my playlist. But I've never actually seen the show.
 
nwp
11:57 PM
@Mysticial I only recently started watching animes, so I'm not a good judge of quality. It starts a bit slow and cheesy but becomes quite interesting. Roughly on par with FMA Brotherhood. Would recommend.
 
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