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Ell
10:01 PM
@ThePhD good luck!
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes That's pretty sweet!
@Ell It's been THREE WHOLE MINUTES and he hasn't called yet.
Panicking. P A N I C K I N G .
 
Ell
Don't panic
 
good luck
 
@Ell ...and remember to carry a towel.
 
Don't panic or stress out. Even if you screw up, there's always another interview somewhere else.
That's how I did mine - by not giving a shit.
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10:10 PM
In my experience, the interviews that lead to a job offer were those that I couldn't tell if they went well or not.
 
Once I had 3~4 interviews for the same job, and finally didn't get the job.
 
@EtiennedeMartel I agree for the most part. Though it's usually obvious when they say no.
 
Which is why I'm still doing Python & oceanography.
 
Though in my set of interviews a year ago, it was somewhat difficult to tell which ones were "good" because most of the jobs were local, so it was free for them to bring me in for an onsite.
 
@Mysticial Oh, sure, but it's never obvious when it's positive. Like, an interview is never really a pleasing experience.
 
Ell
10:14 PM
@Morwenn it means you almost got it though :D
 
@Ell It also means I wasted a shitload of time (almost 2 months) for mostly nothing.
 
Ell
yeah :(
 
@EtiennedeMartel For me personally, most of the interviews that went well actually did end up going all the way to an offer, or the stage where they said no because they couldn't give me a competitive offer so they didn't even try.
 
Well, in the end I got the Python job and I like it. I would have given up on that one on accepted other offers hadn't it reappeared right at the end of the 4-interview job.
 
Which I personally prefer they get to the compensation question early in the interview process (like the end of the 1st phone interview) to avoid wasting everybody's time and money.
 
10:17 PM
Part of it is that Chicago is not SF. I've been on the other side of the desk, and we interviewed a lot of qualified people but couldn't afford them.
 
There were a couple tech recruiters and companies that I talked with who kept persisting. One of them offered to fly me in. But I declined because there was no way they were gonna even get close the existing offers that I had.
And startups with 300 million in VC funding for a questionable product in an already competitive industry is not something you can get a good chunk of.
 
@Mysticial I did have one that sounded like an interesting place to work, but they brought up the compensation first thing. In fact, basically said right away that no interview was necessary--he'd already looked through (at least some of) my SO posts, so he was pretty sure they couldn't afford me, but if I was willing to accept what they could offer he was ready to hire me immediately.
 
@JerryCoffin Yeah, that seems a bit premature. For me in the cases where they did bring it up early, they usually did it indirectly, "what was your compensation at your previous job"?
For the ones that did ask me directly, I would spin it like, "I made this much at my previous job, but they fired me so I'm not sure that means much. Right now, I'm interviewing with X other places and I'll choose from one of them."
 
@Mysticial Well, this was a case where the responsibilities listed in the ad sounded like "senior engineer", but they really wanted something more like "senior intern".
 
@JerryCoffin oh lol
 
10:26 PM
@Mysticial I'm exaggerating a little, but not a whole lot--as I recall, the pay they were offering was something like $80K, just before I took the job here in San Diego, so only a couple years ago.
 
@JerryCoffin Straight to the point I guess
 
$80k for Jerry Coffin? I can't tell if that's insulting or offensive.
Especially with California living costs.
 
oh, not monthly?
:)
 
They probably assumed he'd only work part-time with considering the time spent on SO
 
I'm always impressed by the amount of money offered for jobs in the US.
 
10:31 PM
Guy celebrating repeal of Obamacare finds out he’s on Obamacare. Amazing. https://t.co/Buq4agSFJD
Yours sincerely // #sad
 
@Morwenn You have a week to come to the US before a wall stands in your way.
 
@Mysticial Going to the US has never been among my plans (otherwise I'd have accepted that offer in Palo Alto yesterday :p).
 
And when you get here, you pay 50% of your salary to taxes, the other 50% to rent. And you eat at work to stay alive.
 
Okay, it may also have been Dublin or Tokyo.
I'm perfectly fine with my €30k here. Actually I'm merely stacking money every month because I've got nothing to do with it yet ._______.
I guess I spend around half the money I earn every month, or something like that. I'm not even sure.
Eh, it's already almost midnight and I haven't done anything even remotely interesting on my free time ç_____ç
 
10:53 PM
Help
The programming problem is starting now
 
Ven
hi
 
Ell
@ThePhD stay calm
 
nwp
@ThePhD You solved plenty of programming problems before, one of the results I'm using daily now. You've got this.
 
11:08 PM
@ThePhD Obviously the correct thing to do is to post on Stack Overflow and put, "URGANT HALP PLZ" in the title.
 
^ that :D
 
Because:
1. It's obviously urgent. But SO blocks "urgent" from titles, so you need to spell it, "urgant".
2. You really do need help because it's an interview and you're on the spot. But you need to spell it, "halp" to get past the block on, "help".
3. It's always nice to say, "please" in whatever form it may be in - even if misspelled.
 
11:27 PM
In the future, interview questions will test a programmer's ability to find answers on SO
 
imagining what programming is like without internet ...
 
No time for that, I'm going to sleep.
Bye-ni~!
 
nwp
@Mysticial you should become a professional advisor for people on how to use SO
 
@nwp It was a linked list question.
@Morwenn Nini.
But the question had a TWEEEST.
 
11:43 PM
I handled the programming part super well, though. And I got to talk about sol2.
MAN I went off about sol2.
I'm so glad I have that project.
 
Is this your first interview?
And for your first job?
 
why do you always seem to be having interviews @ThePhD
 
@Mysticial I've never had a job before, just lots of internships.
3
Like, 5 internships.
 
That's a lot.
 
I've also done interviewing for each one of my internships. I could have skipped the interviews for some of them, but rather than intern with the same org I always jumped to another one and thusly triggered a new round of interviews.
Also WHY ISN'T THIS PINNED:
 
11:48 PM
@ThePhD come to Ireland, get a job where I work, it's amazing... though we do sometimes wokr
 
/cc @Borgleader @jaggedSpire @Puppy @TonyTheLion ^^
I did screw up once, though.
When I was talking about default construction for using operator[] in an unordered map,
instead of just saying "this Giant struct can take an eternity to construct",
I said "this Giant struct can take a goddamn eternity to construct".
Which could be RIP.
 

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