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21:00
I believe I mentioned before that I invariably cut myself when wielding knives.
@DeadMG Failure or success to achieve that purpose.
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@RMartinhoFernandes Which purpose?
4 mins ago, by DeadMG
there's no higher purpose to human life and there never will be
@RMartinhoFernandes Since I just stated there is no purpose, then there is no failure or success to meet said purpose.
Oh shit, human life.
@DeadMG I thought you stated evolution was the highest purpose.
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@RMartinhoFernandes Well, I think this applies to all kind of life, so lets suppose he wrote "there's no higher purpose to life than evolution". Now what again is your question?
21:02
I'm not sure.
@RMartinhoFernandes Evolution is a process, not a purpose.
@DeadMG So, did I misunderstand, or did you misstate your idea?
I got 99 problems and a higher purpose ain't one
@RMartinhoFernandes Undecided, but I'm leaning towards misunderstanding
21:06
I don't know if @DeadMG really understood what he was saying, lol
@TonyTheLion I would never, ever say anything I don't fully understand
you cockfrungling bushpockler
damn, if only I could actually remember what those insults were...
Sounds family friendly.
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21:08
Whatever, crocodiles are certainly quite successful when it comes to evolution. They are virtually unchanged since mammals started to conquer the world. They are as old as the platypus, and that the only ancient mammal left.
meh, I thought I'd do something different today, and take a stroll in the shopping streets, but now I have to pay the ultimate price of pain, it sucks! I think I'll stay inside tomorrow
they are one of the very few large animals to survive the dinosaur extinction event relatively unchanged
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@DeadMG I think true crocodiles only appeared after the dinosaurs died.
So, when we say "Dinosaurs are extinct", why aren't crocodiles a counter-example? Are they not dinosaurs?
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@Robᵩ No, they aren't.
21:10
@sbi That sounds like an answer to my question.
really? it was my understanding that one of their distinguishing features was that they were basically untouched
What about echidnas though?
@Robᵩ Dinosaurs aren't extinct. There's some outside my window right now.
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@RMartinhoFernandes Ok, so there's maybe two of them. Maybe even three. But there's dozens of crocodile species.
@DeadMG They are. So?
21:12
@Robᵩ If they were, they'd be named crocosaurs.
hmm
how do you link to a specific time on a Tube video?
(I'm joking, don't tell me about galimimus or some other one with non-saur-ending name)
@DeadMG #t=xs
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@Robᵩ Actually, there are surviving dinosaurs: birds.
it's teh awesums
21:15
prime-ministering pimhole, lol
Fry and Laurie are pretty damn good
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I don't like QI though
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I don't like Qt.
@Ell I'm not QI's greatest fan, personally.
@sbi Why's that?
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21:18
its massof?
massof? Is that a new C++ operator?
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hahaha
sizof(Qt) == 1/0
massof(yomama) is UB.
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:L
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@RMartinhoFernandes It's only applied to programmers, though. :-/
21:22
@sbi Or their mothers.
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@robjb It warps C++ with an additional preprocessor. QtObject ('nuff said). It shadows many types from the C++ std lib...
It's QObject I think.
circumlocutionism, anyone?
ROFL
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@RMartinhoFernandes Whatever.
(shame about 'air condition' - vs. 'air conditioning')
21:25
(Am I annoying with this endless pedantic pointing out of mistakes? Please let me know if that's the case)
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This is a nice story. (You can download his entry here.‌​)
@sehe Oh gosh, I only understood it now.
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@sehe Ah, damn. You want me to post it again, in corrected form?
@RMartinhoFernandes And it was such a gem!
Yes please, will restar
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@RMartinhoFernandes Not to me.
The metabolism's final products have truly met with the rotating part of the air conditioning.
3
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Damn, it's 11:30. I wanted to be home now. I guess I'd better get going now...
@user1131997 please post code in at ideone.com and post a link here
How's that for community effort :) We even make sure we redact the starred messages in time for stars to be revoked (and re-assigned).
We are good
std::string. std::find.
21:29
@TonyTheLion please :)
@sbi Go
@sehe hehe.
@sbi Have fun.
@RMartinhoFernandes char const* ?
@TonyTheLion Ignores really do help
21:30
A bit more about myself: I am 10, love animals since I have a dog and a bird. I live in a family of 5 in Holland. I have 5 friends with whom I play all day, mostly outside.
Priceless.
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@RMartinhoFernandes where is that? :L
Wolfson Prize Submission?
@TonyTheLion callback functions uses only const void* for args
@Ell The link @sbi posted above.
@user1131997 you know you can cast to void* at the cost of losing type information
21:32
@TonyTheLion And your soul
oh yea, and use C++ not C
@sehe oh yea, you have to have a soul, before you can lose it
I have cast like:

int compare(const void *a, const void *b)
{
//here
return (*(char*)a - *(char*)b);
}
@TonyTheLion I have a soul! /wags tail
@DeadMG yea, but you're a puppy, you don't understand what these things are used for yet :P
return x - y; is a bad spaceship implementation.
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21:33
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spaceship implementation?
There's no point in being clever here.
@RMartinhoFernandes wtf?
@Ell Spaceship is what Perl users call the <=> operator, which does a comparison and returns positive for greater, 0 for equal, or negative for less than.
@TonyTheLion I forgot. Carry on
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ohh. I see the spaceship now XD
@RMartinhoFernandes I am familiar with it from ruby but never called it spaceship :L
21:35
if(a > b) return 1;
else if(a < b) return -1;
else return 0;
@RMartinhoFernandes It's what they usually refer to as 'convoluted jokes', 'far stretches' or just nerd humor
@user1131997 you're casting a const void* to char*, you're violating const correctness
and WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU USING C???
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Calm it, calm it. C has its uses
What's the CAPSLOCK key? And why are your Shift keys broken?
@Ell No, it doesn't. Except if you're on some miniscule embedded platform/kernel kind of thing, which is not a general-purpose use, nor "uses" plural.
21:36
@Ell Yup. The prime of is to annoy the crap out of C++ programmers
BECAUSE I LIKE THE CAPSLOCK KEY
GOT IT?
lol
@TonyTheLion EAT IT
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@DeadMG use 1. portable assembler, use 2. to write a c++ compiler :D
YES :P
oh yea, C++ compilers
GCC code is fugly
last time I looked
all right, nothing I have understood with adivces, although thanks a lot :)
shall go RTFM do
@Ell You can write C++ compilers in pretty much any language under the sun.
C is one of the worst you could pick for that.
@user1131997 good idea
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You can write anything in pretty much any language under the sun.
now he's on my ignore list too :)
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All I'm saying is C has its uses
21:39
C is not particularly well-suited for language processing.
yes it does have it's uses, but I'm sure the use he was putting it to wasn't one of them
@Ell We know that. That doesn't improve things much, though
Hello.
@TonyTheLion I'm using Minix, C++ is dead in it :)
My plunger has it's uses. I still don't like wielding it
21:40
hahah
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Okay sorry sorry I shan't speak another word of it who must not be named
lol
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: Come in here, and witness the wrath if you mention C! [c++] [c++11] [c++-faq]
@user1131997: Anyway, here's a hint: binary search only works on sorted arrays.
@TonyTheLion Has been on mine for some time.
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"A Hershey-funded school rejected a 13-year-old boy for admission due to his HIV-positive status. Boycott Hershey products and take action to end HIV stigma! Sign the petition!" <-- why did this 13 year old boy have HIV anyway?
21:42
lol, Google provides plenty reading material when you Google "binary search"
@DeadMG ROFL
@DeadMG 99% of people is probably on your ignore list :P
@Ell HIV is transmissible from mother to child.
@Ell Does he have to explain that to you? He just has it. That is tough enough
And through a thousand other means, too. It's not just sex.
21:43
@TonyTheLion cause there are many classic algorithms with N-arny search in diffrent data structures , which are independet from exactly langauge
@RMartinhoFernandes ^ That
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I'm just saying I don't think Hersheys is the problem here
Actually, you know what. I'm just going to stop talking :L
There's no cure for HIV.
that looked like you guys edited your messages simultaneously, knowing from each other (god knows how) what you'd be saying
@sehe, @RMartinhoFernandes
@Ell no worries, you'll get over this feeling if you hang around long enough in here :P
@RMartinhoFernandes Dissolving the body in acid kills the virus.
21:44
@DeadMG Sweet. You hardly notice the guy :) I think I have about 3 ppl on the ignore list. I regularly 'set them free' (whenever I think of it, really) so they get fresh chances.
I felt the same way in my early days here
ah, explains a lot
@TonyTheLion Yeah. See the starboard. We're good
meh
Reddit got boring
21:46
@sehe FTR, room owners can cancel stars at any time.
I need something else
@sehe I don't set anyone free.
@RMartinhoFernandes Not even veiled, that
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@TonyTheLion stumble upon? Just be careful.
21:46
@DeadMG Not surprised. I do.
You asked for it!
@RMartinhoFernandes that fast? You have ALL tropes permanently open or something?
@RMartinhoFernandes Yes, I know :)
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@sehe Now, that I have done this, I can go home. :)
What game is that?
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Q3A. That's from before you guys were out of your diapers.
21:50
No, it's not.
{| align=right |- | |- | |} Snake is a video game that originated during the late 1970s in arcades and has maintained popularity since then, becoming something of a classic. After it became the standard pre-loaded game on Nokia phones in 1998, Snake found a massive audience. The player controls a long, thin creature, resembling a snake, which roams around on a bordered plane, picking up food (or some other item), trying to avoid hitting its own tail or the "walls" that surround the playing area. Each time the snake eats a piece of food, its tail grows longer, making the game increasingly ...
^ more fun
Who does like Tron movie?
Snake is incredibly boring.
Where's the magma?
Tetris is king.
evenin' folks
I'm a little disappointed that the 10 millionth post went on a javascript question
21:52
Edit the question to be not about JS. :P
@je4d Sign of the times.
@daknok_t sure, as soon as i become a mod :-)
@StackedCrooked Time is signed?
Sure, if you use unix time stamps for example.
@sbi Seriously, the game is from 1999.
21:55
@sehe yeah, just like temperature :)
No one here is 13, right?
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nope
why? o.O
@RMartinhoFernandes I'm 13 and more.
@StackedCrooked ow. that was a lame comeback
@RMartinhoFernandes He should not be responding, since he's on his way home
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all of us here are past the prime of our life
13 is prime. ha ha. get it? I'm so funny.
What?
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ugh nevermind -.-
I'm 17, I AM a prime. Beat that.
@Ell I got it, but it doesn't work.. i'm on a prime now
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ahhh it makes me sad when I say things.
21:57
27 now.. and I hope I'll live to see another one
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@daknokt I'm square. beat that.
27 isn't a prime.
no, no it's not
1 is Prime.
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haha
21:58
I'mma perfect number. come at me
I'm sufficiently tired that I can't divide by anything bigger than 2.
@Ell I'm a square root, beat that.
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@daknokt I'm both :D
21:59
I'm imaginary.
I just wanted to say that!
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Im real
Everyone is a square root.
@daknok_t I could be wrong about being 27 as well..
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I'm one of 2^n
22:00
I'm a multiple of 1.
I'm a multiple of 0.
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get this. I'm 2^2^2
I'm 2 + x where x is my age minus 2.
I'm with Ell.
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I'm both a square number and a cubic number :D
22:01
My age is my favorite power of two.
@Maxpm 1024?
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lol
I'm π*17/squirt(π^2)
@StackedCrooked 16, silly. 2^10 is lame.
If Pure Awesomeness didn't exist, how could anything ever be so cool it can be used as a laxative?
lol
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22:02
my age is the is the only number of the form x^y = y^x with x and y being different integers.
@TonyTheLion Ha, you're trapped!
@Ell Huh!
@TonyTheLion I'm usually not really into TvTropes, but I like this example:
In One Piece, especially powerful individuals can strike weaker ones unconscious through their mere presence, through the power of "Haki" (Ambition). Two other types of Haki enable users to gain split-second precognition and harden their defenses or strengthen attacks to harm immaterial or Haki-using enemies, but only one in a million inherently awesome people can use the Conqueror's Haki.
I know, damnit
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I'm usually not really into TvTropes
According to some stupid Facebook game I have a child who's older than me.
22:03
I'm just a One Piece fan :D
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@Maxpm I have no idea I copy & pasted without reading
we'll teach you, no worries
muahahahahhaa
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2^4 == 4^2
== 16
@Ell got a proof for that handy?
I am just someone who wants to become a programmer.
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22:04
@je4d not handy :L
how about this one, my age is equal to the number of orders of mammals
@daknok_t +1.
And my age is equal to the age of my father's son.
@je4d There's only one integral solution for -(x ProductLog(-(log(x))/x))/(log(x))
I think this is actually happening already
damnit
@Maxpm +1 for zeh +1.
22:07
So the lounge is a template, and C++ is a type?
@TonyTheLion Shit, I still haven't finished Irregular Webcomic! Curse you!
@user1244215 Not necessarily. C could be an integer.
I think.
True
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seriously what is "TVTropes"?
Ahh, template metaprogramming!
22:07
So, what the fuck is TVTropes?
@Ell @daknok_t A time sink
@Maxpm surely it'd have to be a constant expression, and you can't postincrement a constant expression
@je4d Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
So never mind.
Yeah and C++ is a way of typing text.
22:09
@Ell It's a wiki dedicated to tropes.
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meh its too late to look it up
im off to bed :D goodnight
Bon soir.
@RMartinhoFernandes nn
💩 see ya
22:11
@RMartinhoFernandes y u always link to tvtropes? lol
@DeadMG Sabotage the other programmers!
I gotta go; chicks are talking!
Later.
Chicks are always talking
But this time they don't talk shit.
@Maxpm Indeed, with constexpr even something else
@user1244215 No, Lounge<C++> is the name of the a room.
@daknok_t Curious as to what it is they might have said. Must be newsworthy
22:28
Dammit, GCC 4.5 is stupid. ideone.com/VGBM3
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What are the best books for learning pure C? classic books
k&r
yup, k&r
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@RMartinhoFernandes s/enum class/enum/, and it works in 4.7
nicely done
22:34
@je4d Oh, I forgot the scope :S
(The test I ran on my machine used a regular enum)
@je4d +1
You _ran_ it. Love that.
I'd just compile it, really
enum E{C};constexpr E operator++(E,int){return E{};}template <E e>class Lounge{}; Lounge<C++> room; <-- shortest I could make it whilst still compiling
@je4d Liked it better with template <language l>
I don't like incrementing an enumerated value past the end of the enumeration.
@je4d Liked it better with template<language L>
22:38
@sehe Of course I ran it. I needed to make sure it works properly like the room, i.e., produced no useful output.
@user1244215 It's well-defined.
@RMartinhoFernandes +1
@je4d You can take the E out in return E{}
@RMartinhoFernandes Code golf in C++. I thought I'd seen the worst
And template <E e> can become template<E>.
@RMartinhoFernandes I knew someone would find a redundant character or two :-). The space before that {} can go too
@je4d there's several redundant spaces
@MooingDuck I intentionally left the spacing around the declaration at the end
but there's still the one in template <
enum L{C};constexpr L operator++(L,int){return{};}template<L>class Lounge{};int main(){Lounge<C++>room;} anything else?
You could drop the return{};. The behaviour would technically be undefined (or implementation dependent)
22:46
@sehe Nope, wouldn't compile.
Can't cause UB in constexpr.
@sehe too many standards lawyers around for me to dare!
@RMartinhoFernandes Oh darn. Good point
K I'm off to bed - cheers
nn @sehe

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