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15:00
@nwp He ran out of comic ideas, so now he'll just release lists of nano-jokes
Ell
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welp rustc used all of my memory :V
lol what'd you do
@набиячлэвэлиь can you explain in other words
@LucDanton Bee Ell Ough Ayy Tee
too much white in relation to black
15:13
@nwp e.g. linking the rng in begin(rng) to the Notation block?
@набиячлэвэлиь got it
nwp
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yeah, put it below Notation: and indent it like 2 characters
@nwp it’s not quite that simple, there is a link to the Sphinx sources at the top if you’re curious though
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@LucDanton the one that produces a 404?
hah, didn’t think to check that, I guess I forgot to copy the sources
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is replacing const std::string & parameters with [std::experimental::basic_string_view](http://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/experim‌​ental/basic_string_view) a good idea?
15:20
sure why not
no, it's experimental
there's non-experimental boost::string_ref if you care
it requires boost for seemingly no improvement
> not using Boost
using Boost is Hitler - the builds are unbearable
15:24
I smell a pun
If you need a string view find any of the hundred string view implementations floating around and use it.
@sehe can I make my grammar parametric on the attribute? If I want to call a function on the attribute via ADL, does something like [adl_fun(var_, _1)] works ? I guess that the whole phoenix placeholder thing should break ADL, overloading, ...
Also, VC++ doesn't implement many of the experimental libraries, so.
Also, std::optional is kind of trash.
No support for references = meh
Seeing as it doesn't support optional<T&>
For some reason.
Apparently it was originally proposed, but removed...?
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15:27
@ThePhD that's kinda what I was doing
I guess that they expected you to work with optional<std::reference_wrapper<T>>
Because that's useful for my generic code, thanks stdlib
@ThePhD Importing libraries from Boost into standard library, but also breaking some functionality in the process seems to be a common practice
@gnzlbg yes. Polymorphic calleables can call into ADL-enabled free functions just like anything else
(see boost::random_device)
@ThePhD what about it?
15:29
@sehe i'll try that
@sehe Lack of support for optional<T&>, which turned out to be a key use case for my work (and for sol). I had to instead not use experimental/optional or optional at all, keeping the handrolled one I found on github with minor improvements.
@milleniumbug s/breaking some functionality/changing some of the interface to be less contentious or to be more durable for future revisions/ - bear in mind that Boost can change/rectify its interfaces a lot easier than a standard spec
@ThePhD Yeah. I love optional<T [const]&> instead of T [const]*: free ownership with nullability rocks
It's also a better user experience. When I tell someone "if you want to have my library check if the thing you're getting out of the VM exists, use optional", then they need to have the reasonable expectation that my_class& stuff = vm["blah"]; can be converted to optional<my_class&> maybe_stuff = vm["blah"];, without me having to write a big NOTE: in the documentation for "look, if you want an optional reference you need to std::reference_wrapper that..."
@sehe I have an adl function that takes my attribute by reference, and when using it with _val I get "no known conversion from const _val_type to my_type&"
15:35
I'll try with a lambda
this doesn't work
wtf how hard can it be to get the attribute0 from within the parser
The role Unity3D Architect - $30/hr is really a joke in terms of requirements / salary/ experience
http://stackoverflow.com/jobs/109407/unity3d-architect-30-hr-crossover
It looks like I really need to use fusion with spirit
there doesn't seem to be a good way around this
crap
@sehe is there a way to access the attributes from within a grammar without using phoenix (without using _val)? (like getting a reference to it)
@EtiennedeMartel is that the face of steve jobs? :P
No, it's Ben Kingsley.
15:50
they blurred tits. wtf
not gonna play because of censored tits
@gnzlbg everything is possible. Yes, but at what cost: boost-spirit.com/home/2010/03/03/…
@sehe there are a couple of parsing a matrix examples in stack overflow, but at the end of the day most of them just use a vector and automatic attribute propagation
2 hours ago, by sehe
@gnzlbg Sounds great. Share some code on Stack Overflow and I might get what you want :)
@gnzlbg Yup. I'm also pretty sure some don't (traits/and or semantic actions)
I'll share code when its finish and you can get the karma but I need to try a lot myself
Ven
Ven
:D
oh I look like griwes today.
15:55
:P
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A: Boost::Spirit::QI parser: index of parsed element

seheThere are a number of approaches. What I'd usually recommend instead, is using well thought out repeat(n) expressions with directly exposed container attributes (like vector<vector<double> >). What you seem to be looking for is semantic actions with state. (This is common practice coming from l...

@Ven how come
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who knows
@sehe gonna go to sport and then the movies, will keep trying tonight/tomorrow morning
Ven
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the avatar gods decided so
I thought identicons were derived from email hashes
15:59
Only if you share your email.
Ah. I never realized you could be on an SE site without doing so
16:10
@drus Blame stupid MSVC compiler extensions: auto f(input.cbegin()), l(input.cend()); (or just use s/const_iterator/iterator or don't use auto): here's your change :) — sehe 56 secs ago
@hudac late delivery: I happen to have "cobbled it together" using boost container indeed: stackoverflow.com/a/36830643/85371 about a month ago — sehe 33 secs ago
@StackedCrooked NSFW ish
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@Ven Avatarly, yes. Mentally you appear much healthier.
16:27
Is there a single default that the C++ Language Establishment got right? I can’t think of one. Sad!
@Shoe at variables aren't volatile by default
can you imagine if they weren't
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const volatile should be the default
why volatile?
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why not :D
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16:37
Rust is awesome.
because it doesn't enable optimization
@StackedCrooked That's something at least.
Ven
Ven
16:53
@rightfold huh. Thanks..?
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:)
Ven
Ven
@sehe i have no email. That's why my email changes randomly
@Shoe just like atomics, right? Oh wait :p
17:09
@Shoe Variables aren't const by default.
> got right
templates are inline by default.
class members are private by default
I think you read it wrong, it says "got right", not "got wrong"
the const thing is very right
Yeah, defaulting to const is very right
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17:15
There should never be more than one alias if there is a mutable alias.
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It's too dangerous.
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Rust master race.
Rust is p slick
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look at my iterator
my iterator is amazing
https://github.com/rightfold/iron/blob/master/src/ir/cfg.rs#L122-L138
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find already borrows self, so the lambda can't also borrow self, hence the copies on line 133 are required.
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17:20
Hi sweaties.
hi bae
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@nwp Good programmers recognize their own incapabilities, and therefore use tools that provide lots of safety.
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@rightfold and bad programmers write code that actually does stuff, hence software crisis?
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No. Good programmers write good code that does stuff. Bad programmers write bad code that does stuff. And since there are many more bad programmers than good programmers, a lot of software is shit.
17:24
What about programmers who write stuff that doesn't do anything relevant?
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@nwp puppy in younger days
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@Morwenn They are irrelevant.
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They don't contribute to software people use, so it doesn't matter of what quality it is.
Irrelevancy master race.
@nwp woof
17:26
@Morwenn It marx my heart grow to see images like these
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Communist party?
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!!!!!!!!!!!
17:32
@Ven Wow, that's consistency.
@rightfold I had a shirt with that.
It's full of holes now. Just like communism.
Look at graphics..
Why that shit above makes me want to visit north korea
@EtiennedeMartel Why doesn't that surprise me?
@Shoe Hey, it's a great joke.
Just like communism.
(Shit I'm on a roll)
Didn't know you were that fat :D
communist shit should be binned
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@ProblemSlover it's too late, we're all on the watchlist now
17:57
wel then.. let's admit it..who we are
@StackedCrooked a cover
@nwp poor dog has trouble focusing his eyes
even though he's trying so hard. it's heartbreaking..
anyway. communism is the next stage of capitalism(Karl Marx theory). but not vice versa (USSR . china bad examples) . so sooner or later the communism will come to US in some form of legislation(there are already some laws like health care, free college education)
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@StackedCrooked I'd be more worried about his typing skills
@Shoe They shouldn't be really
not a fan of REST, I'm more of an RPC man
18:13
RPC-Man
The hero we need not the one we deserve.
I like to launch rocket-propelled cocks
rpc == soap?
no.
RPC just means that you model requests as a function call on the server.
@Puppy Kinky.
18:18
then if you need to, you can have those functions have, well, whatever semantics you need.
@Puppy so you throw in a soap and launch 'em?
By the way, I haven't seen @ThePhD in a while.
what is it with you and SOAP?
I use this at work with plain HTTP requests
nothing, just a funny joke
Ven
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@Morwenn you're relevant to my heart ❤️
18:20
@Ven You're a weird one ♥
Ven
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Yes, I've heard that one a lot. My mom says I'm special.
She must mean to her heart. I think.
Ven
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Da da da
@Morwenn he often disappears for a long time
@Ven You may want to ask her :p
@StackedCrooked Now that sol2 is mature, his mission here has ended.
18:25
He'll be back ..probably.
I dunno
seems to me like for the last year or two he's kinda been a help vampire
really?
Didn't notice that. However, haven't been paying much attention..
yeah
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18:27
@Morwenn she left me on the street a few years ago, no clue where she is now
I've only ever seen him in here when he asked for help
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Or feedback
Does that count as vampire as well, btw?
yes.
@StackedCrooked Which one is that?
he didn't come in here just to chat or to offer anybody else help
18:28
@Ven Wat.
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@Ven look at my SSA, my SSA is amazing
@Morwenn It's called "Hundred". It's airing this season.
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goto b0;
b0:
assert(false);
$i0 = null;
assert(false);
$i1 = null;
$i2 = $i0 + $i1;
goto b0;
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@Morwenn i'm joking, yk. (She also doesn't say I'm special. Only stupid at times)
@StackedCrooked Yet another thing that I won't be watching /o/
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18:29
@rightfold 3/10 need to add phi later
@Puppy Well, REST can be seen as a protocol for remote calls
I fear I've already read the first chapters of the manga though.
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@Ven phi isn't very difficult
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Before you jump, you check whether the target has a phi. If it does, assign a variable first.
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18:29
Never said it was..?
I wouldn't really recommend it. There's plenty of better stuff out there.
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What were you suggesting then?
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@Puppy so I'm a vampire as well?
Like kabaneri of the iron fortress.
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@rightfold it needs to be there to look fun. It's not hard :p
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18:30
:P
Ven
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Awww cmon. Don't make me look bad...
Xeo
Xeo
@StackedCrooked Or Jojo
I should continue watching Jojo.
Ven
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A wild xeo appears!
Xeo
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hi
18:31
I stopped a while ago.
Oh right, I've indeed already read the first chapters of Hundred, but there wasn't anything to keep me actually interested, and too much fan service :/
@Shoe Well, it's just a dumb prescription. "All your functions must follow X model!". Just .. make them have the semantics they need? I'm not really feeling that remote calls are really any different here to regular calls.
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Space Patrol Luluco is also great, just too damn short
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Remote calls must cope with timeouts.
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Kiznaiver could be good, haven't watched more than ep 1 yet though (only watching animu with a friend on some weekends)
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18:32
But you can easily implement an abstraction for that.
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Re:Zero is also supposed to be really good
I should get around to watching that sometime.
I like Kiznaiver. It's not really a top series though.
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Same for Flying Witch
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@rightfold using modans? :o
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Kneeshaver.
18:32
@Xeo Re:Zero is AWESOME!
I'm certain you'll love it.
Xeo
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Bakuon is good for mindless stupid fun
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@Ven Using Haxl. :P
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\o/
Tanaka-kun is also fun.
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@StackedCrooked I'm sure I would. Lately I've only been watching animu with my buddy though
18:33
what I need is for Bartek to stop like, doing his own shit
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Haven't even watched Gate S2, now that I think about it
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@rightfold i implemented let in my lisp (and scopes in general. Now my code looks 100% shit
how am I supposed to play Archon with myself
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Xeo
get other friends
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@Puppy remove the archon part
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18:33
@Ven how difficult can it be
@Puppy use a mirror
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If all else fails, just implement let as an IIFE.
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@rightfold like 3 lines
Re:Zero is also genuinely scary at times.
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It just looks bad because I've realized I need to rewrap the return values of my calls back into structures, otherwise macros are gonna be a hell of a pain
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18:36
How are you going to implement macros?
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Please implement them like Clojure does. Compile them as if they were functions, then execute them at compile-time to expand them.
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Specialcase of call
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ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww runtime macros
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have fun with lexical scopin
Bye, I'm off to have fun with lexical scopin.
@Xeo It was pretty good IMO. Some people didn't like it as much as S1 though.
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18:40
@rightfold yeaaaaah...
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@BartekBanachewicz lol'd
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It will take much more to get C++ to die retire
Not sure what it will take.
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Competence.
18:48
A giant leap for mankind
The leap that Haskell promised but never delivered
I guess apocalypse would be easier.
What kind of apocalypse?
I can't get my std::forward_list algorithm to work ç_____ç
> A boy asks his dad "Why do they say gardeners have green thumbs,when their thumbs are not green?"
The dad replies,"It's just a saying son,It's like when somebody is caught stealing,they say they have been caught 'red handed',even though their hands are black."
@Xeo Hi there!
> hands is :)
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18:51
uh
hands in
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"hand is" or "hands are", but not "hands is"...
It's not my fault
I copied it from here
Wait...
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What you wrote is fine?
put away the pitchforks
no, please
Xeo
Xeo
18:52
I was replying to sehe
I have a family
AAAAAAAAHHHH
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oh
it's edited
nvm me
reaonably
@Shoe Good one.
18:58
45 seems to be my record
Oh nevermind, had a good run
> I scored 36 in the Trump Challenge! thetrumpchallenge.com #TheTrumpChallenge
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lol, SE.chat. I don't even feel like fixing that.
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:(
> I scored 50 in the Trump Challenge! thetrumpchallenge.com #TheTrumpChallenge
So close yet so far
19:07
That's after I realized it's keyboard enabled
lol
@Shoe In this type of challenge it helps to keep your muscles relaxed.
To improve reaction speed.
@sehe I got 46. :)
When your code doesn't work because you're un-fucking-able to read a documentation.
19:16
@Morwenn slow clap
Ven
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Yo
@Puppy he's alive!!!1
I'm getting stronger, I'm no longer dead when back from lollerskating
@Ven I need to train to be like Rambo dude
wait until you're dad when back from lollerskating
I don't wanna
That's ok. Just employ my simple yet effective scheme: Don't go lollerskating.
So far it's flawless
@PdxInteractive How many times are you going to delete and remake this tweet?
Story of my life :)
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19:21
@Ven implemented phi :)
Having to work with before_begin and splice_after is horrible .____.
implementation running on .net
@StackedCrooked What's your score?
19:34
@Morwenn singly linked lists in all glory
@Shoe I think I got 45 on my second try.
I'm old :P
@milleniumbug Yup.
I guess the only time where I would use a singly linked list is where both of these conditions would be true: a.) requiring lax iterator invalidation rules b.) accessing the first element most of the time
I don't remember having ever needed an a singly linked list either. I use lists whenever I need good iterator invalidation guarantees though.
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I need linked lists because school wants me to
19:42
my phone is so broken, refuses to swipe to answer calls, maybe it tries to protect me
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@JohanLarsson Flash another ROM to it ?
dunno what that means, firmware upgrade?
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@JohanLarsson Not directly related to "upgrade", but it's like formatting your computer, but a smartphone instead
@JohanLarsson swipe left :)
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@JohanLarsson you probably have to tap instead :D
19:54
@Ven Change schools.
Any idea where I should put libc++ if I have a non-system clang build (e.g. in ~/clang)?
Ven
Ven
no
Oh, nevermind.
I'm an idiot.
#include <stdio>
int main() { std::cout << "Hello world!\n"; }
@R.MartinhoFernandes You have a <stdio> that defines cout? Sounds just a tad on the strange side...
20:05
Oct 13 '12 at 22:56, by daknøk
lul means penis.
@sehe Wait, you're not robot
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I look so beautiful in this pic :D
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@sehe You look lovely :)
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I'm the one on the bottom, just for completeness
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Hard to believe it's been just a year since then
I believe you.
#RemoveALetterSpoilABook - The DaVinci Cod https://t.co/xKPHGY62W6
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@sehe Haha.
Many gems there
"The Silence of the Labs" #RemoveALetterSpoilABook https://t.co/TYkzqLezYP
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20:17
@sehe Indeed. :/
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@sehe Are you a robot?
> The Joy Of Ex
Harry Otter #RemoveALetterSpoilABook https://t.co/i51mEbBUsG
20:32
Hairy Otter
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@milleniumbug Milleniu mug
20:45
Lie of Pi 🐯#RemoveALetterSpoilABook
"Since we obtained the block of memory, we have to call the constructor to initialize the block of memory. So, we get the relative virtual address of the constructor in the DLL."
> Harry Potter & the Sorcerer's Tone
@sehe An alternative version where Quirrel is a rockstar
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The fault in ur star
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'Ride and prejudice
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20:53
The Little Pince
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@Morwenn will get this last one
@sehetw It was a take-off on "The Executioner's Song"
To explain or not to explain
I'm not gonna. I'm a man. This likely woman is not unlikely to also understand mansplaining in some twisted way
@AndreyErick Many people get frenchisms
The Little Price
"Most code is bad, so just because you see something over and over doesn't mean it's a Pattern" - Tony van Eerd #cppnow
hear hear

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