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user1804599
3:00 PM
Then codegen the source files in any order (parallel!)
 
Ven
ITT (well, In Some Other Thread) rick rolling is offensive
..but thinking people are dumb enough to copy-paste curl a | sh isn't.
 
user1804599
lol dat flag
 
Ven
I want to flag everyone who flagged that message, just for thinking anyone would ever copy-paste such a code into a terminal. That's offensive.
 
user1804599
 
user1804599
I.e. God is absurd.
 
user1804599
3:14 PM
> Soon opinion free travel from EU to Turkey
Erdogan: 'Europeans have put big steps'
 
user1804599
crappy google translate
 
just believing is proof
thats sound christian logic that lay the foundation for science
 
Ell
@Columbo What is an SV?
@Zoidberg nah, there is just no transitivity :P
 
3:38 PM
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Q: Why does SO question ban last so long

Alireza MohamadiNobody is born scientist. We all start from a point. I agree that when you are using a website, you should read terms of use correctly and follow the rules, and a question ban is something really good, but there are two issues: Ban takes so long if you DON'T update your question such that it re...

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/cc @Borgleader
To summarize:
- OP sucks and he knows it.
- SO doesn't like people who suck, and OP knows it.
- OP posts on SO anyway. And gets banned.
- OP complains about getting banned.
 
@Ell Supervisions
 
@Zoidberg Does that mean, that a == b; a == c; b != c?
 
@Columbo That should obviously be abbreviated to SVNs. And of course, SVNs should be converted to Git or Mercurial immediately.
 
:D
 
Ven
4:04 PM
@Mysticial
 
@Ven s/cruel/accurate/
 
Ven
well, a website like SO isn't always "accurate"
 
@Ven @Mysticial is hardly "a website like SO". In fact, he's an entirely different sort of web site.
 
Ven
@JerryCoffin the first "so" in "so-so-cruel" might not be what you first thought :).
 
@Ven Lacking specification to the contrary, I'm free to misinterpret it as I see fit humorous.
 
Ven
4:13 PM
yes, you're always free to be wrong!
 
hah, my work on the riff competition is finally progressing
 
4:41 PM
@набиячлэвэлиь yeah, their "is" is not an equivalence relation for some reason
 
TIL Kent cigarettes were one of the first to add filters to their cigarettes in response to health concerns
however, the filters were made from asbestos
 
@Zoidberg So is air, apparently.
 
@JerryCoffin your IS is weird because it's not an equivalence relation
oh wait
haha I didn't scroll up
guess @ScarletAmaranth ninja'd me
 
4:59 PM
@orlp "is composed of", "is a component of", depending on the direction--and that fits reasonably well with the Christian (or at least Catholic) view of God. The conclusion that's justified by this diagram is merely that the diagram is oversimplified.
 
@orlp I am glad you share my enthusiasm to express concern about transitivity (well, lack thereof)
 
@JerryCoffin so we need a different graph
1. it needs to be a directed graph
2. IS and IS NOT should be replaced by SUBSET and NOT SUBSET
 
@orlp Something like that anyway. Personally, I doubt it's worth the effort (because even though this graph doesn't show it, attempting to analyze religion logically doesn't really work well).
 
Ell
@Columbo we don't have supervisions
I don't think vOv
 
@JerryCoffin religion is not constructive by definition then! Brouwer is now disappointed - the lack of proofs is disturbing
 
Ell
5:03 PM
@Columbo what is a supervision exactly?
 
@Ell 20/20 eyesight, of course
 
Ell
haha
that was quick
 
funny you should say that, my lady said the very same thing earlier today
ok I should be writing this stupid paper instead of trolling the lounge
later bois
 
oh cool, my car apparently finally has the steering wheel straight
so much tease. I miss driving
 
5:08 PM
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Q: How to include a Lenny face in a LaTeX document? e.g. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

pixatlazakiHow would one include a "classic" Lenny face in a LaTeX document? A paper is due tomorrow and I am curious. e.g. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) I have attempted to use the verbatim environment but it has proved fruitless.

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@BartekBanachewicz I never knew you were a tree
 
lel that oak
 
is it hard to drive as a tree?
 
it's hard to drive when you don't have a car around
incidentally i almost took part in a motorcycle accident today
there was a 9yo riding an electric pitbike and I was wearing earphones
remember kids loud mufflers save lives
 
user1804599
Volkswagen is literally MongoDB.
 
recently I "caused" an accident! I was waiting next to a pedestrian crossing (standing on a sidewalk nearby) and a car stopped to let me cross the road - the guy behind him however wasn't too keen on stopping as well and rammed the shit out of him
 
5:16 PM
@Zoidberg lol "literally"
@ScarletAmaranth emergency automatic braking is gonna become standard safety equipment thankfully
 
ye it's a bit silly tho - you can like sneeze or something and poff goes the bumper
 
@Mysticial 6 months is really long time though.
 
sup
 
@ScarletAmaranth the bumpers are fairly inexpensive typically though
 
user1804599
 
5:25 PM
@Zoidberg excellent, it crashed my Chrome ^^ I like import tho
 
user1804599
lol
 
Ven
@Zoidberg 2/10 not enough ad banners
 
> Created 10th May 2016 - 3:23 AM
 
user1804599
I see none.
 
The time in my place is.. 9 May 2016 - 8:27 PM
 
Ven
5:28 PM
Here, have this cookie: 🍪
 
@BartekBanachewicz morning
 
six minutes
then let's go
 
why specifically six
 
until my TV show episode is finished
 
5:34 PM
 
ok done
 
nwp
5:56 PM
why does for (constexpr int i = 0; i < std::tuple_size<decltype (t)>::value; i++) not compile? i is not const and constexpr doesn't imply const anymore, yet clang and gcc say i is readonly :(
c++ is so close to allowing sane template code
 
Ven
@nwp you have a few too many is, btw :P
 
nwp
you are right
 
Ven
sure. the function is run at runtime, not compile-time
 
nwp
there is l s d in the code, it should totally work
 
Ven
it should not work. that's not how constexpr works.
what you want is some sort of "constexpr for"
 
6:10 PM
@Ell Me, and potentially another person from my course, having a one-hour session with some PhD on example questions on the course
 
user1804599
yay imports work
 
user1804599
function (import "./function")
; => $function = require_once('./function');
 
nwp
@Zoidberg why do you make a poll to find out which keyword is good and then use the dumb one anyways?
 
user1804599
It was voted the most times.
 
user1804599
3 vs 1 for use
 
nwp
6:16 PM
where does require_once come from?
 
user1804599
That's the PHP code generated by the compiler.
 
nwp
oh, never mind then
 
user1804599
ve2PHPE (ImportVE _ file) = return $ "require_once('" ++ file ++ "')"
 
user1804599
From this line, specifically.
 
Ven
you better never require a file with ' in its name :v
 
user1804599
6:18 PM
:P :P :P
 
user1804599
Also it should append .php.
 
Ven
whoops, ' not ".
 
user1804599
And prepend __DIR__ . '/' ..
 
Hello again.
 
nwp
@Morwenn I'm depressed my lsd-code doesn't work. Tell me it is because C++ is bad and not because I'm bad.
 
6:23 PM
You just didn't get how constexpr worked.
 
nwp
why does everyone say that? -_-
 
Ven
...because you don't? :o
 
Because it's true.
 
@nwp lol no
 
6:27 PM
@Zoidberg That pic looks scary.
 
OMFG I've just accidentally defenestrated my phone facepam
it's borked... noone is hurt tho
 
user1804599
fail
 
@ScarletAmaranth lol, how does that happen accidentally?
 
had to google 'defenestrated'
@ScarletAmaranth ...why?
 
The Defenestrations of Prague (Czech: Pražská defenestrace, German: Prager Fenstersturz) were two incidents in the history of Bohemia in which multiple people were defenestrated; there have been more (see below). The first occurred in 1419 and the second in 1618, although the term "Defenestration of Prague" more commonly refers to the later incident. Both helped to trigger prolonged conflict within Bohemia and beyond. Defenestration is the act of throwing someone or something out of a window. == First Defenestration of Prague == The First Defenestration of Prague involved the killing of seven...
 
user1804599
500 euros instantly gone
 
Thats a really expensive phone.
 
@Mikhail Defenestracja Praska FTW
 
Actually, the EU funny money to USD rate is really low. Its almost 1:1, what happened?
 
I didn't realize it was plugged in the charger as I was grabbing it from my fitball... so I got confused for a moment as to why I can't just pick it up, and in the confusion I applied some force to the pickup motion - needless to say, my hands are sweaty and slippery and my window is open...
 
Ven
6:31 PM
@Mikhail life
 
On the flip side, I'm even wealthier
har har har
 
@ScarletAmaranth :D
@ScarletAmaranth What floor? :)
 
3hd floor
I was concerned I a) hurt someone b) damaged a car
none of those happened tho - RIP samsung galaxy 3 mini
 
@ScarletAmaranth I had to replace mine S4 mini like a week or two ago. It just died. I suspect the battery did die.
 
@wilx Have you tried buying a new buttery
 
6:36 PM
@ScarletAmaranth Seriously, that's some bad luck you have.
 
@ScarletAmaranth At least you get the opportunity to replace it with something newer.
 
those are older phones, replacing stuff for them is pointless
@wilx yeah the thing is I don't care much for my phone - I just make calls with it and that about sums it up; I don't need the hottest new iPhone
 
@набиячлэвэлиь I haven't, yet. But I intend to have it looked over if it is just the battery so that I have a backup phone just in case.
 
@Morwenn at the end of the day it's "good luck" because there are cars parked underneath the window and also people walk there
 
If you plug it in and it works it's the buttery
 
6:38 PM
@набиячлэвэлиь I plugged it in and it did not work. However, the USB serial modem chip in the phone responds and Linux shows the device when it is connected into USB.
 
@ScarletAmaranth Nobody would have known it's your phone since it's ded.
 
@Morwenn ehhh, if I hurt someone, I'd plead guilty
 
@ScarletAmaranth Take their money first. They won't need it anymore.
 
don't think they'd die... it would have to be some pretty bad luck if so
 
Ven
6:57 PM
@Zoidberg ping
 
user1804599
7:09 PM
@Ven pong
 
Ven
@Zoidberg got an example of use of macros in your lambda playground?
 
user1804599
Yeah just write them
 
Ven
no such example
 
user1804599
For example, #uncurry #and (#pair #true #false).
 
Ven
what's that supposed to print?
 
user1804599
7:15 PM
After beta reduction, λa.λb.b.
 
user1804599
Note: macros are built-in. You cannot create your own.
 
Ven
ok
 
user1804599
Just use IIFEs. The evaluation is non-strict anyway.
 
@Morwenn I sometimes listen to this channel while coding at work.
It's a good productivity booster :D
 
Psytrance is great when coding: repetitive enough not to catch the attention, but still progressive enough to have interesting parts :)
 
7:24 PM
Indeed.
 
user1804599
I listen to catchy Amaranthe songs.
 
don't we all
 
user1804599
Yes.
 
I guess I don't.
 
I'm looking her up on YT right now :D
@Zoidberg I was expecting pop.
 
7:29 PM
Guys, what nice games have you been playing recently?
 
user1804599
@StackedCrooked :P
 
user1804599
@Shoe Minecraft
 
@Shoe I'm planning to finally start the Protoss campaign of Starcraft II.
 
Minecraft is indeed relaxing and fun
 
Not sure if that counts as nice game.
 
7:30 PM
Problem is I've got bored of it
 
user1804599
Mods are being ported to 1.9 now
 
user1804599
From 1.7
 
eh, can't run the most interesting mods unfortunately
my computer sucks
 
user1804599
buildcraft, thaumcraft, not enough items, and industrialcraft are the funnest
 
Good reason to learn Java.
 
user1804599
7:36 PM
No, learn Scala instead.
 
Can confirm, Scala is better at making mods than Java
 
1 message moved to Trash can
GIFs, heh.
 
Time to go drink a beer with friends ♫
Later! :)
 
user1804599
Have fun!
 
That's the plan :D
 
Ven
7:55 PM
@Shoe ..wow :/
@StackedCrooked much harder than HOTS', huh? :P
 
user1804599
Lol, guy with an illegally high salary does a topic on poverty in his talkshow
 
user1804599
If you work in the public sector, your salary may not be higher than that of the prime minister. Yet it happens, and because it's the state propaganda TV channel, it's tolerated
 
user1804599
How about spending your salary on those poor people you fucking asshole
 
meh
that one guy's salary can probably fund only a very little for the poor people
even if he earns a million a year, that's probably still barely a euro per year for the poor, if that.
 
user1804599
It's about the principle :p
 
8:04 PM
@Zoidberg Harry M?
Oh wait. DWDD
Matthijs hoe heet ie ook weer
@Zoidberg Do they becomes green instead of blue, too?
@EtiennedeMartel not a bad gifshop /cc @Zoidberg
@ScarletAmaranth Why would you even run windows on it
> fitball
@Morwenn And some extraordinary perseverance in clumsyness
@LucDanton It's important to check, even if you don't speak English
 
8:32 PM
@BartekBanachewicz gun deaths seem to be at well over 70%-80% of motor vehicle deaths for the vast majority of the curve
Also. ebola and traffic incidents are hardly left unregulated
 
Ell
8:45 PM
@Puppy not necessarily
he ought to give the money charitably
instead of incurring costs via going through government, right
actually forget that
I don't care :P
 
> 1:39 whaaaaaaaaat!?
YT comment is spot on
 
user1804599
9:09 PM
@sehe ???
 
user1804599
this guy is hilarious
 
@Zoidberg mods are blue, violets are mods, I spook you and signals and slots
 
CMake is torture
 
I like CMake
 
Yes but writing it is torture
 
9:46 PM
Also torture compared to MSVC's drag-and-drop functionality
 
MSVC is the greatest torture of all
 
interesting ideas are the ones worth disproving.
 
The interface is seductive
 
This tweet has the honour of being the first tweet I ever shared with my daughter.
 
@Mikhail How does a compiler implement D&D?
 
9:46 PM
the IDE
 
Created a whole new twitter account for the purpose. That's something
 
@Mikhail That's VS
 
w/e
 
user1804599
@sehe violets are red, roses are blue, when metamaterials alter their hue
 
Well done
 
user1804599
9:51 PM
And sehe is bad at xkcd
 
user1804599
These are all so great imgur.com/gallery/ZdAVz
 
user1804599
Stereotype jokes are hilarious
 
user1804599
Especially when they're offending.
 
user1804599
Shock factor contributes.
 
10:17 PM
 
user1804599
I want white hair
 
10:35 PM
@Zoidberg Just wait it out
 
user1804599
10:48 PM
Lolno
 
@Ven As in world of warcraft?
 
user1804599
I know why people still write software in C!
 
user1804599
Because C is like Christianity and Islam: an incredibly retarded religion.
 
or you need to write the Linux kernel
 
user1804599
Brainwashed from the get go. No way out.
 
user1804599
10:57 PM
Very sad.
 
Subliminal plug for Google Go?
 
Is Go really that good?
It's the only language rightfold keeps praising for more than a couple of months
 
Untrue. You forgot about COBOL and Elixir. And APL.
And... (oh boy) ObjectiveC. Well. I think he used it way too long - never really raved as much about as for the Erlangs
 
user1804599
@Shoe GO IS AWESOME
 
user1804599
Garbage collector and green threads are killer features.
 
11:00 PM
Elixir is p nice to be honest
 
user1804599
Elixir is untyped bullcrap.
 
If you are into that actor kinky stuff
 
user1804599
Dialyzer is a joke
 
Depends on which actor, really. Some are pretty hot
@Zoidberg Are you kidney?
 
user1804599
Halina Reijn
 
user1804599
11:02 PM
 
user1804599
@sehe COBOL <3
 
Yeah. I think she might be more famous from plays
 
user1804599
COBAPL
 
user1804599
Famous from sitting at DWDD.
 
What language would you use to write a game?
 
11:05 PM
@Zoidberg Hey. That's no easy accomplishment
 
Wait writing games is awful
I don't know what to write
 
user1804599
@Shoe what kind of game?
 
I'm boring, all I've ever done with PL is trying to write games or websites
I need to see the outside world
 
user1804599
Write a game in SNEK
 
11:07 PM
Writing programming languages is boring I think
What else is there
 
user1804599
It has higher-kinded types.
 
Not knowing what to write is awful.
That is, if you're still gonna write (just say no)
 
What should I do? Just write what uni tells me to write?
 
Since you have no better ideas, yes
 
But I want to get better at things, I want to learn more languages, discover the world
 
user1804599
11:09 PM
Write an optimizer for shell scripts that removes UUOC, does TFEO (tail-fork/exec optimization), among other things.
 
I guess you are right, not writing is probably the best option
@Zoidberg You see? That's your thing. You always have a thing to work on. I'm not like that anymore. :(
 
user1804599
In tail position you can get rid of the fork and the waitpid, just like in tail-call optimization you can get rid of the stack frame.
 
user1804599
Write a dating site for transgenders
 
user1804599
Call it "ladyboner"
 
@sehe Are you still streaming?
@Zoidberg lol
 
11:12 PM
@Shoe Nope. Apparently a break of about a month was enough to replace that habit
 
with...?
 
More work I guess
 
:(
 
user1804599
Tomorrow I'll implement type fields in structs, and path-dependent types!
 
You should look at Pony (the PL)
It's a statically typed elixir
 
11:14 PM
@Shoe Hey. Work can be fulfilling too
 
@sehe Do you like your "new" job?
 
I guess I do. With all the bad things it has, I feel very appreciated and think we can achieve some nice things
 
What are you guys working on?
 
user1804599
@Shoe I'm not interested in the actor model
 
@Shoe Forensics enablers for the people: tracksinspector.com
He's interested in model actors
 
11:16 PM
Holy shit
It sounds like stuff from a 007 movie
 
user1804599
pliesie
 
user1804599
 
That's actually some p interesting stuff right there
I wish I could work for my own state at writing a software for handling medical stuff
 
user1804599
Cross dressing is a nightmare
 
The medical system is so stupidly organized right now
At least here
 
user1804599
11:19 PM
Dutch health care is among the best of the world and its an incredible mess
 
I don't mean the quality of the service, I mean how it's actually organized. Like I see a lot of jobs and stuff that could easily be automatized
 
user1804599
Health insurance privatization is a disaster
 
A lot of time wasted in general
Like every visit at a different doctor (which is always the case) starts with 10-20 minutes of me repeating my medical history
If only there was some way for them to check my public record themselves
 
@Shoe It's pretty pedestrian if you have that angle. It's really the low-hanging fruits; nothing to sneeze at, but it's mainly handling huge volumes of data and presenting it all in a centralized fashion. The tricks that sell it to the police have to do with forensics standards (for court reporting etc.)
 
So you sell this service to the police as well?
 
11:22 PM
> public record
?
 
@sehe Like my medical history
I always have to bring in my past paper work of previous visits, blood work, etc... to every new doctor I meet
 
@Shoe I should probably point to our website for disclosed clients :) It's mainly Europe but expanding
@Shoe I hope none of that is actually public
 
I mean more like protected
Some medical network in which they can hook and get that data
@sehe p cool
 
@Shoe Software is hard to trust - taht's why it's not there. you should probably be glad
 
@sehe Software seems to be doing a good job with banks for example
 
11:31 PM
lol
 
No?
 
Nope
 
Then why don't they get robbed?
 
I guess it's good enough for most.
 
What's good enough?
 
11:32 PM
@Shoe They do. They just insure the hell out of it, because there's more money to be made than they're (currently) losing
The good thing is, they don't need insurance companies to do the insuring.
 
State?
 
@Shoe Erm. Banks have moneys. As long as they have solvency there is nothing they need
 
If they were to get exposed wouldn't they lose like billions?
 
No. It's not like that. Although, the other day in Singapore or thereabouts...
 
Hmm, why not though? Why would a thief limit him/her self?
 
11:37 PM
@Shoe The easier vulns are obviously limited to outside transactions
I'm probably one of the more pessimistic.
I think true security is impossible and relative security commonly overestimated
 
Interesting
What do you think about self driving cars?
 
I love the idea. I think it won't work unless human drivers are (basically) banned
 
Even if the self driving cars are connected to the internet?
 
Oh. You know. Why would they.
 
Internet of things mentality
 
11:41 PM
We don't need to be connected to the internet to be able to navigate a cross road
 
A lot of the cars we currently have are also connected to the internet
 
but ~internet~
 
@Shoe Yeah. Look at how that goes
 
I agree with you, but if I take a look now and see in 50 years when all cars are self driving cars, I see a lot of cars connected to the internet
Because traffic and GPS-like maps
Because the occupants have to watch youtube
Because emergency signals
That looks like where we are headed at least
 
This one was funny globalnews.ca/news/2540277/… -- no telling when they'll fix it, so Nissan owners have bought a brick gadget right there
@Shoe They don't need their cars for that
 
11:46 PM
@Borgleader Dunno what the average is. /cc @набиячлэвэлиь (Yes, it was for Cs-GO).
@R.MartinhoFernandes Pfff. Maybe after the last 2 finals.
 
> In 2015, BMW had to offer a software patch after hackers remotely unlocked the doors of its cars.
 
Oh yeah, there were the guys that hacked a car few months ago
They showed what they could do
 
That's most likely the Jeep story
 
6 mins ago, by sehe
@Shoe Yeah. Look at how that goes
 
11:48 PM
ye
 
lol jeeps
what have they done to the character of their cars
 
They're still a waste of metal
Nothing changed
(well, wasteful in general. I think they had wood panels once upon a time? I'm no car connaisseur at all)
 
at least they used to not be so...offensively bland to look at
 
I lack whatever gene is necessary to find cars interesting or even tell them apart. The $35k tesla just looks like... a car.
 

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