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15:01
I think this was closed for the wrong reason. If anything, this should have been closed as a dupe of an existing question. Just because this question asks using some specific example code, it doesn't mean that code makes this question too localized. — sbi
Rallying for reopen-votes here. A few users, including @Dead, were too trigger-happy to think this through.
Also, there is a surprisingly large number of wrong answers to that question, one of which was accepted as the right one, and only one that's right. I've commented in plenty, and also downvoted, but I guess it would be good if the wrong and accepted answer wouldn't have the best score.
HULLO!? Anybody home?
Hey Friends, I'm trying to build Resource Editor in Pure Win32 API. Don't know how to implement it.
@sbi I don't think I have enough rep to vote to re-open
Unless I'm missing how to do that
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@CollinHockey No, you don't. But there is enough users here who have. @RMartinho, @Konrad, @Tony, @jalf, @Kerrek, @Xeo, @Mysticial, and others all can.
@RavikaJain What?
@sbi voted on reopen and down/up according to your comments :), it just took some time to read the whole question+answers+comments
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@CollinHockey I want to make Resource Editor (GUI Builder) in Pure Win32 API
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@KillianDS Thanks.
@sbi Eh? What am I supposed to reopen? :P
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@RavikaJain We got that. I think @Collin was a bit baffled why you would ask a Win32 API question in a C++ chatroom.
10 mins ago, by sbi
> I think this was closed for the wrong reason. If anything, this should have been closed as a dupe of an existing question. Just because this question asks using some specific example code, it doesn't mean that code makes this question too localized. — sbi
which question are we talking about?
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Also that I really don't understand what you're asking for, you mean you want to build something like this? resedit.net
@sbi Win32 API is in C/C++ only...
I was wondering if all those people that were mentioned were supposed to be at the beck and call of sbi. Judging by reaction times, I guess some are!
@sbi Do you have a browser extension / script to post comments in chat? or is this what happens when posting a link to a comment into the chat?
@CollinHockey Ya... That's what...
@RavikaJain WinAPI is all languages.
15:14
Why make it? It exists
I'm confused, which question are we talking about?
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10 mins ago, by sbi
> I think this was closed for the wrong reason. If anything, this should have been closed as a dupe of an existing question. Just because this question asks using some specific example code, it doesn't mean that code makes this question too localized. — sbi
This one?
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Q: Introduction to Arrays

BeginnernatoSo I just started working with array's, I have 3 functions i need to create to get me to learn. int sumarray(int a[], int n); // a is an array of n elements // sumarray must return the sum of the elements // you may assume the result is in the range // [-2^-31, 2^31-1] int maxarraypos(int a...

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@KonradRudolph I past the text and then past the URL. There is a feature request on meta for oneboxing comment links. It's received favorably by the SO gods, but I don't think it's implemented so far.
@Xeo That's not a question, and it's not a link to a question
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I found it in the 10k tools list.
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@jalf It's a link to a comment on the question. :P
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@Xeo Thanks. Sigh. (Is it really so hard to follow two or three references upwards from where you were summoned?)
@CollinHockey This isn't an answer... There are Operating Systems like Windows, Linux, Mac etc, then why are people still creating new Operating Systems?
@Xeo it's a link to the chat...
am I missing something obvious here?
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@jalf Yes, click on sbi's nick in the quote.
15:16
Um... what's the dupe we should re-close it as?
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The one at the end of the innermost quote
@Xeo Oh hello. Didn't we talk about automatic currying and EDSLs some time back?
@Xeo oh, that's pretty obscure
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Yes?
@RavikaJain Point being, what new thing do you want to implement? Have you even started?
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Q: Add chat oneboxing support for comment links

XeoSince we have direct links to comments now, IMHO it would only be fair for comment links in the chat to be treated on the same level as question and answer links. (This question feels kinda empty, and I don't even have a pony picture handy to pad it...)

For reference. :)
@Xeo I finally got my things in order and e.g. ref(f)(arg1, 6)(5) works.
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@LucDanton Got something interesting done?
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@Xeo Ah, that was you!? See, @Konrad, I knew there was one. :)
also, I've got @Feeds on ignore, so didn't see when the question was originally posted
@CollinHockey Yes, I've started. I'm just having problems with implementing Drag'n'drop functionality
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15:18
@jalf The question was posted by Feeds because someone added a tag to it. That's what brought it on my radar.
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@jalf Some of us adopted that habit, since it closely resembles the comments on SO proper. I personally like it.
@LucDanton Cool
Was it a big rewrite?
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@jalf I am sorry for that. Somehow that became the established form of manually-oneboxed comments here. You might have missed that so far.
@RavikaJain Then you probably want to ask a targeted question on StackOverflow. Specifically, what kind of code have you tried? Where have you looked? You're not likely to find Win32 API experts in the chat, but there are people willing to help
@sbi yeah, figured that out after following the links to chat transcript, which doesn't filter out ignroed stuff. Sorry for being slow :)
@CollinHockey I'm trying GetWindowLong Function
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15:20
@RavikaJain Adobe's Acrobat has a C API, too. I still wouldn't recommend to ask about that API in a C++ chatroom.
dunno, I'm mostly of the opinion that it's more of a "plz-send-me-the-codez" question
@Xeo No. I scrapped a partial specialization that would have made my life harder for maintenance in general (i.e. two separate things to take care of and keep in sync), that was the thing really holding me back. Things followed from that.
although I'm also of the opinion that it should have been closed as a dupe
I put Feeds on ignore back when you experimented with the notification bar thingy. Haven't missed him, so I left it that way :)
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@sbi Oh, btw, @DeadMG may even have voted to close as dupe, but the majority thought off-topic and that's what it became
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15:22
@Xeo Ah, indeed. I forgot about that. Sorry, @Dead, if I judged you wrong.
actually, I did vote too localized
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Anyway, I now voted to close the question as a dupe:
Any takers?
I was the fifth vote and everybody else had already voted too localized, so I figured it was just faster that way, and it's not like I'd have changed the close reason on my own anyway
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You lazy bastard, @DeadMG!
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15:24
If that appears on the starboard, I might just as well make sure everybody sees whom I referred to. (OTOH, that might have been obvious by what I said...)
Actually, you all seem to be lazy bastards. Sigh. This wrong answer still has a score of +3. And nobody is close-voting.
What's wrong with you? Is it Friday yet? Did I miss the week?
oh, I didn't even read the answers :P
oh, man, it's a C question too
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@DeadMG, you are an incredibly lazy bastard!
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was about to write an answer recommending std::begin and std::end
WindRiver sent me a large box, which contained packing peanuts and another box, which contained bubblewrap and two cardstock folders, each of which contained a CD. Why they couldn't just stick the folders into a FedEx envelope and saved like $30 on shipping I'll never know.
@CollinHockey You still buy physical CDs?
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15:29
Well, well. If you continue this way, we will have the starboard flooded with messages calling @Dead a lazy bastard. Not that this would seem inappropriate...
Stupid WindRiver doesn't offer ISO downloads
@sbi there you go, just upped my karma with 0.0000000000318 kg
wow, someone beat me to the unpin for once
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@sehe Yeah, it's always good to put aside a little karma when you can spare it. Otherwise, when you blow something really badly, you might easily overdraw on your account at the Karma Credit Bank. :)
@DeadMG It was just me starring my own messages. Sleazy grin. I never intended them to stay pinned.
I have a habit of unpinning the bad pins anyway
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15:34
@DeadMG Actually, that's wrong. You have a habit to unpin those pins you happen to dislike. This doesn't necessarily have to be congruent with "bad pins" (according to whatever definition you prefer).
I usually unpin anything which isn't the newbie hints
This unsets a bit flag, right? foo = ~(~foo | flag)
I think so? I might do: foo &= ~flag;
Oh, that's even better.
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Since I failed to get a useful answer over at Android.SE: Is there anybody here who can recommend a QR reader for Android that does not want my granny's underpants and works with my phone?
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your granny's underpants? :|
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The other day I meant to download an app for that and searched the market for [a QR scanner] that does not want access to all my contacts, my granny's underpants, and whatever else it could get its grubby hands on... — sbi
@sbi Google goggles?
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@sehe It should expire tomorrow.
@sbi Yeah, it really ough to :)
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15:41
@KillianDS Something from google that wouldn't want my data?! That must be a first! Lemme look...
@sbi Yeah, i'd have to check the permissions
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@KillianDS "read contact data" "write contact data"
@sehe Well, tomorrow, it'll hit the 14 day limit, so
@sbi I noticed, I also use shopsavvy, which only requires 'location data' (besides camera & internet). But don't know if that can handle QR codes
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Oh, this one only writes to contact data. Would that really mean it can't read from it?
@KillianDS Ha, that doesn't want access to the contact data at all. Interesting.
15:47
posted on March 19, 2012 by Dave Abrahams

As you may have heard, the 2012 edition of BoostCon has been re-branded as C++Now! Well, the keynote speakers have been announced and the program has been set. This year is looking like a blockbuster! See you there…

At least @Feeds is quicker on the uptake than GoogleReader (for me)
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@KillianDS Again, my phone isn't compatible with that. If I only knew why.
@sbi I think since some QR codes are contacts, that most QR readers can add that as a contact automatically. I can't think of why they'd need to read contacts though, other than maybe to edit information.
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@MooingDuck To send them?
@sbi you're sending QR codes?
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15:57
@MooingDuck No, I don't think I want to exchange personal info via QR codes. All I want is to read the occasional QR code that will (I think) usually be an URL. That's why I don't want them to get into my pants contact list.
@sbi You might be hard pressed to find a QR code without that functionality :/
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@MooingDuck Actually, I have found about three, but according to my phone they are all incompatible for unexplained reasons. :(
@sbi That's sad. Though does the reason for an incompatibility for a phone really matter? It's not like you can mod your phone to make it compatible.
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@MooingDuck If it was because they needed a higher Android version than what I have (2.3.5), I at least could understand what the problem is. Denying something for unexplained reasons is just plain annoying.
@sbi oh, I'd assumed it was a hardware compatibility. I run into that more often than OS version problems.
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16:09
@MooingDuck But how do you know it's a hardware problem??
Really, why would a barcode scanner app need access to confidential log files?? That's just plain stupid, IYAM.
@sbi my assumption would be writing log files, but I dunno.
@sbi frequently it says "does not work on these phones:" somewhere on the app's details
@sbi it's especially common among apps that use GPS or camera. Or the accellerometer.
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Ha, I found one. Barcode Scanner+ Simple doesn't need anything but network access and access to the camera. It's €2.30, but if I don't find a free one, I'd gladly pay that.
^ Can anyone guess what that is?
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Alf's food porn.
I can post some porn if that's, like, desired?
16:20
Pasta, beans, fish in some white sauce? With raisins?
Very close
Those are not raisings but rose-colored pepper. pink pepper.
And the fish is smoked salmon.
How did you guess?
I think pasta + salmon is a simple and common dish over here.
Schinus terebinthifolius is a species of flowering plant in the cashew family, Anacardiaceae, that is native to subtropical and tropical South America (southeastern Brazil, northern Argentina and Paraguay). It is found in the following states of Brazil: Alagoas, Bahia, Espírito Santo, Mato Grosso do Sul, Minas Gerais, Pernambuco, Paraná, Rio de Janeiro, Rio Grande do Norte, Rio Grande do Sul, Santa Catarina, São Paulo and Sergipe. Common names include Brazilian Pepper, Aroeira, Rose Pepper, and Christmasberry. Description Brazilian Pepper is a sprawling shrub or small tree, reaching a...
The rose pepper is, apparently, not pepper :-)
Apparently contradictory info in Wikiepedia, though. The article above refers to the article on pink peppercorns, which in turn says they're not from that tree?
Pink peppercorn refers to spice made from dried berries of the shrub Schinus molle. Jars of pink peppercorn may also be labelled "baies roses." They are not from the Brazilian Pepper tree, Schinus terebinthifolius, which has toxic qualities. Toxicity controversy In 1982, the American Food and Drug Administration (FDA) banned the trade of pink peppercorns in the US, on grounds of possible allergic reactions upon consumption. References
@sbi What's up - do you need any votes still?
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@KerrekSB Actually not. Thanks.
This guy says I'm too pedantic, but I think I can live with that. :)
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Q: Issues with the C Standard Library?

IntermediateHackerI've read from various sources about there being a lot of bugs, issues and design flaws in the C Standard library. Some to do with string handling functions, some with I/O etc. Is this true? If so, can anyone list some of the most common known issues?

@sbi OK.
hy :)
what is multiplicity of attribute ?
@sbi That topic isn't even interesting anymore...
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@KerrekSB Have you tried Ritalin? :)
@sbi Not for some time now, why?
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16:31
@KerrekSB Oh, I seem to have hit right on target with that shot in the dark. (And I asked because you're losing interest so soon.)
@sbi So soon? :-) How many times do you want to belabour the nature of arrays in C, I ask? That would even make a replicant designed just for debating C arrays bored!
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@KerrekSB Ah, I you are talking about arrays in general. I took "topic" to refer to that question, its answers, and the comment discussions. Sorry for the confusion.
@sbi Well... the discussion is just yet another aspect of something each of us has said one too many times already. You're right, of course, but I would just let it go and move on.
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@KerrekSB <insert std xkcd reference>
@sbi Oh, is there one?
Where is RMF when you need... well, anything, really.
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16:40
@KerrekSB There's always one.
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Q: C Compiler is generating errors when trying include C++ class header

user1279025I am compiling C code using gcc ( C compiler (can't use C++) ) and one of the .c file includes a header (Monitor.h) which defines a C++ class Monitor. When I try to compile I am receiving the following error:- In file included from /home/tp/workspace/gft/Display.h:39, from asr_i...

I mean, come on.
really bit of a PEBKAC there
lol
The first comment on the question is just wonderful.
Yeah, I'm sure a C++ header is designed to suddenly become C.
Because that's what everyone does.
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yeah... I ship all my headers with a NO_CPLUSPLUS switch...
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@CatPlusPlus I upvoted your answer, but I think @Dead's comment is even better.
ENABLE_MAGIC_BECOME_C
@sbi I pasted it as an answer so you can upvote my lazy ass :P
@sbi Hahaha, very spot on! :-)
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@DeadMG Rep-whore. Upvoted.
16:46
Free badges!
Lolol someone downvoted me.
I mean, lol.
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@CatPlusPlus Twice, actually.
I have no words.
@MooingDuck: SERIOUSLY.
@CatPlusPlus I think I have actually. I did remove the -1 btw
@CatPlusPlus maybe it's too categorical a statement. after all many a C header is also a valid C++ header.
It's not about C headers in C++, it's about C++ headers in C.
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yes, but when the C++ header is also valid C, it can be included by a C translation unit
C++ header. With a class.
Not valid C.
anyway, that's what a rational downvote would probably be about. maybe those downvotes are just drive-by downvotes. kids.
i don't like them closing the question as "too localized", because it isn't. it's just a not "didn't think"-question. it may be of interest to newbies, so i think it was wrong to close it.
i voted to reopen even though all that needed to be said has been said
i think the close votes were just as freaking dumb as the question itself
@CatPlusPlus Haters gonna hate.
@sbi Did you delete your own comment on that question?
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@KonradRudolph On what question?
17:02
The C++ header in C question
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@KonradRudolph No. Is it gone?
Mod came by.
You didn't expect all comments to survive that, did you?
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Wow. Some mod must have killed it.
17:02
this endless deletionism is really annoying
What was that comment about?
Question being too silly.
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@EtiennedeMartel I added a similar one again. :-o Please star plentifully. :)
My god, even @DeadMG's answer got downvoted twice.
I would have found the comment misplaced if directed to e.g. a student, but SO advertises itself as "for professional and enthusiast programmers".
17:05
@sbi Already upvoted that comment.
I've got a question folks.
Maybe I got an answer.
i upvoted the two remaining answers (cat and puppy, sorry gorilla!)
@EtiennedeMartel I definitely have answers. About 6 of them
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@CheersandhthAlf Sorry for what?
17:07
that you got no upvote from me on that
@CheersandhthAlf Eerily close to gaming. Chat puppeteering
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@sehe You got >45k with only 6 answers?
@sbi No, that would be the answers I had until I gave them. I have 6 new ones. And counting. Right now
"if (score1 < score2, score3, score4, score5)" been a while since I saw that
@MooingDuck Ouch.
17:08
Why would the member array break with this constructor?
Code goes on ideone.
Also, errors.
What errors?
What's a broken array?
@sbi (Actually just looked that up. My 45k is from 2,291 answers. So that would be 0.02 rep per answer. According to the internets, your answers are about 2x as valuable on average)
@LucDanton What do you mean?
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17:10
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Array cannot hold it is too late.
@Moshe What do you mean?
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Why would the member array break with this constructor?
Lol.
@sehe How do you arrive at 0.02 rep per answer when you have more rep than answers?
@CatPlusPlus My professor claims that this class won't compile. why not?
I don't know, compile it and see.
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@CatPlusPlus Good question. By doing mental arithmetic
Mental, a word referring to aspects of, or things related to, the mind; or in anatomy, the skull, e.g. the mental foramen, can also mean: * a slang, pejorative term used to describe people who act like lunatics, which is itself an outdated term for people with mental disorders * Mental (TV series), a 2009 television series produced by Fox Telecolombia Or can mean a guy whho really is cravisious.
Okay, that's a rep cap for me.
In about 30 minutes.
@CatPlusPlus Oh, all figures are off a factor 1000 due to silly regional options used by SO (which aren't the ones used by calc.exe)
@Moshe You usually ask a compiler
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@sehe Disregarding questions — which is a bit unfair, since my three top questions are worth ~200 rep —, you have ~20,1 rep/question, while I have ~49,8.
@sehe Hah, I've had someone recently ask me why the compiler would warn when doing 0,1 * foo.
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Q: What's wrong with this class C++ declaration?

MosheMy Professor gave us this class and told us that it won't compile. He says that the donors array would conflict with the constructor. So... why would that be? I think that the name of the Donor array might do it, but it shouldn't be the problem because the name of the member array donor is case...

Ok, going to work on it.
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@LucDanton noes!
You still haven't compiled it?
@sehe No worries, he's a hobbyist when it comes to programming, so laughs were heartily had and so on.
That's it, I'm using -Wno-missing-braces, I can't put up with this anymore.
Ok, just realized what the problem is.
We can't have an array of Donor objects.
Because class Donor has a constructor.
And we were supposed to know this how?
Mind reading.
I forgot to mention it.
So, being that we haven't touched vectors with a ten foot pole, how do we use arrays?
We don't.
If it doesn't have default ctor, then you need to initialise the array in the ctor init list. If that's even possible, because I'm at loss when it comes to member arrays.
Well, all elements will be constructed when the array is. Then you can access each element via the subscript operator, e.g. a[10].
Then you substitute C-style arrays with std::array and it all works out the same.
@Moshe ....
@Moshe use deques :)
@CatPlusPlus Only possible since C++11.
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template <typename T> using totally_an_array = std::vector<T>;
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@Moshe That's not a problem as long as it has a default constructor.
@CatPlusPlus yeah because that is only possible since... C++11 (and fewer compiler versions at that)
There's nothing outside C++11. C++11 is a happy place.
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@CheersandhthAlf ;
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@sbi Hrm... Like with default values?
Updated the question.
Really, a screenshot of errors.
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@Moshe If you do not know what a default constructor is, you might want to grab an introductory C++ book. Really, this is class design 101.
@Moshe He means a constructor which takes no arguments
17:25
@CatPlusPlus Yup, we're using VIM over SSH. Much easier than copy and paste
@Moshe Oooh boy. I really recommend at least g++ -Wall -std=c++03 -pedantic when using GCC.
@LucDanton Starred for after class.
I think bookmarking is more appropriate for that. Or maybe that's public, too.
and maximized the use of objects.
Bookmarks are global, yes.
Well. Duh, let me star it then :)
17:29
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: Maximized use of sillyness. [c++] [c++11] [c++-faq]
do anyone know what happened with Visual C++ Weekly ? (paper.li/visualc)
Another related question: Once I declare a constructor, do I need to declare constructors for all member classes?
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@Moshe That depends...
...on which constructors you want to invoke for your member objects.
Hello everyone.
@Moshe as long as all the member class's non-static members are default-constructable, no.
17:34
@CatPlusPlus Appropriate question: "Where's the sillyness involved?"
Behind you.
@daknok_t Does the compiler make em for me?
@CatPlusPlus My gosh! The jeans! How did you manage to flatten the zippers?
@Moshe yeah.
@Moshe see this question:
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Q: What is The Rule of Three?

FredOverflowWhat does copying an object mean? What are the copy constructor and the copy assignment operator? When do I need to declare them myself? How can I prevent my objects from being copied?

@daknok_t Mmh, not sure if that's really relevant. Declaring a valued constructor is enough to suppress an implicit default constructor, but is orthogonal as to whether the rule of three applies or not.
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@Abyx they forgot about it?
Oh, did you know that, programming languages higher up (Not including C and C++, whichever goes first) can also do wacky stuffs?
@tom_mai78101 what did you just say?
"higher up"?
Here's a proof of concept. Lo, and hehold, Java:
high altitude programming!
The best thing since boat programming
Java is higher up?
@tom_mai78101 you mean assembly?
I thought it was all the way down in hell.
does std::deque<bool> also have that specialization which std::vector<bool> has?
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@Pubby well, it's full of hot air. So unless someone keeps it tethered, I'd imagine it floats pretty well
@bamboon nope
in other words, it's safe to use as a container of bools :)
@everyone I thought assembly means nothing in Java.
@tom_mai78101 that's not "assembly" per se
@tom_mai78101 I don't get it. What do you mean, and what's the screenshot supposed to show?
@tom_mai78101 that's java, emulating assembly
Does C support default arguments?
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@jalf thanks for the info
though what assembly I'm not sure
@Pubby I don't think so
@MooingDuck It is my first time seeing such a thing.
programs should not take longer to close than to open :/ (saving excluded)
@tom_mai78101 you can do that in pretty much any language
@jalf In the jardon "higher up", what else should I say
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@tom_mai78101 I don't know. It depends on what you mean. I just don't understand it :)
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@MooingDuck I can't click a thing. :/
@tom_mai78101 depends on what you mean. You seem to be saying that Java is a higher level of abstraction than C++, which is not necessarily true.
@tom_mai78101 it's a linux terminal, there's nothing to click on
@MooingDuck I meant, a term describing the levels in which programmings are, compared to how far they are from machine language.
@tom_mai78101 C++ is just as far from machine language as Java
What am I typing...
@tom_mai78101 it's a linux operating system. Running in javascript. Not a game.
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Let me just look it up and I'll rephrase everything.
@MooingDuck Ah! I'm so used to WASD.
@tom_mai78101 I know what you mean, and I believe you are wrong. C++ can also go lower level than Java, but it can go just as high as Java.
@tom_mai78101 oh right. That's usually called high level languages (or higher-level languages, if you want to compare it to other languages)
As already said, there's little reason to consider Java higher-level than C++
@I'm not considering that.
@jalf I think most people agree Lisp is highest though :/
@jalf I'm saying that it's a wonder to see how someone can implement a variant 6502 CPU instruction macros in Java.
17:48
@MooingDuck well, lisp users certainly do :D
@tom_mai78101 ah right. Well, it can be done in any turing-complete language (which means basically everything except SQL)
@tom_mai78101 oh, I'm not surprised. If a language couldn't do that, I'd not really consider it a real language
and that's only assuming ISO SQL, without the many vendor-specific extensions
or HTML, if you avoid both JS and CSS
I'm avoiding Adobe for now.
ActionScript is included, I guess.
oh sure, AS is definitely turing-complete
I'm avoiding ActionScript. :P
Didn't say anything else.
17:50
ah
sounds wise
I don't like ActionScript. Or Adobe in general.
If only C++ can teach me how to zip my jeans without having it bump outwards is nice in computer logic.
@tom_mai78101 I'm not sure you fully understand what programming is.
Don't worry. It's just being me. :D
JavaScript Object Notation. Shorten form: JSON
Add an A, you get JASON
Mistype, and you should be typing "Just", and not "Jsut"
"JavaScript" is an idiotic name. It's not even remotely similar to Java.
17:54
JSON and JSUT are Son, and Mother, respectively.
JSLUT?
Quick thinking, my friend. :D
@daknok_t it's marketing
@jalf still, it's an idiotic name.
@daknok_t "JavaScript was originally developed by Brendan Eich of Netscape under the name Mocha, which was later renamed to LiveScript, and finally to JavaScript mainly because it was more influenced by the Java programming language."
17:55
@MooingDuck er, where'd you get that?
it's not at all influenced by Java
JavaScript is a prototype-based scripting language that is dynamic, weakly typed and has first-class functions. It is a multi-paradigm language, supporting object-oriented, imperative, and functional programming styles. JavaScript was formalized in the ECMAScript language standard and is primarily used in the form of client-side JavaScript, implemented as part of a Web browser in order to provide enhanced user interfaces and dynamic websites. This enables programmatic access to computational objects within a host environment. JavaScript's use in applications outside Web pages ...
Yes, that "Live" is gone. Gone from JSUT, thus, JSON was born, and we hate the name so much.
@jalf the next paragraph goes on to say it basically wasn't influenced by Java at all :/
@MooingDuck If JavaScript was influenced by Java, Java must have changed infinitely much the past years.
And I'm narrating a story that wasn't about Java at all.
17:56
@MooingDuck yeah, afaik it really was nothing more than a marketing trick
That marketing trick came from a coffee shop.
True story.
And you all know what else begins in a coffee shop... :D
@tom_mai78101 true love
"It's foolish of me to remember the past, " quoted form an old friend of mine.

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