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9:00 PM
never used sharepoint so
 
@DeadMG Consider yourself lucky (IMO, anyway).
 
what does SharePoint even do?
 
Crash!
 
lol
 
Seriously, the general idea is basically a CMS system, but specifically for content produced with MS products, so you can store/share things like Word and Excel documents, PowerPoint presentations, etc.
 
9:08 PM
CMS?
 
OOps -- content management system.
 
yeah
that was my first guess, but you said CMS system, and I was like, content management system system?
 
Oh, yeah, I hate that too...
 
but I guess that's kinda like PIN number
 
@JerryCoffin Object Oriented piece of sheet?
 
9:09 PM
@Jerry: I know! I've been waiting impatiently to post on the cde review site!
 
I've been thinking of an N-core scaling concurrency model, where various subsystems run in serial, across all objects in parallel
 
Anyway, the best part is that it stores all the actual content in SQL Server databases, and (at least usually) stores multiple versions of each document. I can't say about anybody else, but I'm not really impressed with SQL Server as a file system...
 
but, how on earth am I going to handle something like game logic, where some subsystems need ownership of multiple objects?
 
@DeadMG Lock?
 
but that's so non-performant
 
9:13 PM
Divide the object up into interfaces with each interface having it's own lock. Lock in that manner. Lock parts of objects....
Less collision that way
Make game logic make decisions for object to act on, rather than acting on the objects directly.
 
How you organize subsystems and such doesn't change the fact that you have to ensure only one thread modifies a piece of data at any given time. You can work on minimal locking, rearranging the locks, etc., but you usually have to look pretty closely at details to figure out what's going to really work best.
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except that I would be running many locks per object
what if I want to have ten thousand projectiles?
 
Ok, if an object decided to jump, don't make it jump, tell it to jump and let it act on that later.
 
but then, if someone tries to shoot at it, the shot might hit when it should have missed
or vice versa
 
how
How is that different from real life
You don't immediately move when you think to move....
 
9:16 PM
I don't care about real life
if my player pushes the jump button, their avatar will damn well jump
 
Matter of fact, you may find that it makes it easy to control AI difficulty
Why are you considering logic for a player?
 
perhaps, instead, I should drop "Game Logic" into more clearly separated divisions
like
 
When player executes a jump, you act on it then.... when AI responds, he thinks to jump, and jumps whenever the processor gets a chance to do so.
 
render -> position update -> collision detection -> anything else
 
@DeadMG Yes, but instead of locking and trying to carry it out immediately, you simply queue up something telling it to jump, and it processes the queued items in order. When it gets asked about a collision, it compares to its "current" position, which includes any changes based on previous movement commands.
 
9:18 PM
I did consider using queues like that
but I'm thinking about the same problem as locking- scaling
 
I did this is basic C++, no game engine, nothing, just built my own single process that works like that..... it works fine.... AI is responsive enough.
 
how many concurrent queues am I going to need?
 
And it prevents things that seem impossible for a real person...
concurrent?
An object can only decide 1 thing at a time?!?
 
a concurrent queue is a thread-safe queue
 
One per object?
 
9:20 PM
preferably lockless, but hey, I trust my implementation to handle the implementation
 
@DeadMG About as many as you have objects to do the processing. A queue is cheap though -- and there are minimal-locking queues that scale quite nicely.
 
you wouldn't need to lock the queues, only one thing should be creating decisions, and that's the logic process.
 
that's only the case where a decision is based on something external, like user input
 
It shouldn't matter how many things want to read the decision
 
if I have a projectile, then the decision to collide is determined in collision detection
which wants to run in parallel
 
9:22 PM
I wouldn't think that would be a decision
 
@Xaade At least in most designs, that's not true. You frequently have actions in one thread that need to interact with other objects running in separate threads.
 
Say object decides to move forward, you place that decision on the decision queue. When the object gets a chance to act on that, you set the direction to the object and delete the decision. When the object collides, you lock the object and change it's direction.
 
Trying to run all of those through a single thread doing all the decisions is going to lead to even more locking and poorer scaling (in a lot of cases, anyway).
 
except that if the renderer is trying to render whilst the object is moving, then bang
 
You lock the object, you shouldn't ever have to lock the decision queue.... decision queue literally means decisions, not any effects accrued.
 
9:25 PM
except now we're back to having a lock for each individual object
which I am locking again and again each frame
 
No
You setup a separate lock for the effects accrued queue.... than you do for the direction it's going, the damage it took, etc.
 
right, so instead, I have an effects queue for every object
and what about the logic that needs ownership to more than one object?
 
Decision queue just allows your decider process freedom to run through everything, read anything it wants and queue up decisions, effectively making AI fast but slightly less responsive.
 
you know
I could render and collision detect in parallel
 
So you don't have to lock objects whenever you process information.
 
9:28 PM
as they only require read access and don't need to be exclusive
 
That's what I'm trying to say
 
that's not really different to the original design that I posted
 
I thought you were complaining that your AI would lock everything up.
 
I don't even have an AI
I posted it to get a little feedback
 
You don't even have an I
 
9:29 PM
lol
hell, the game engine that I do have is completely serial and can hardly render a 3D sphere right now
I'm just doing concurrency, well, because I can
and I find the exercise incredibly interesting
 
Well, collision detection would have to take locking priority.... you don't want something to go through a wall before it bounces.
 
well, think about it
ultimately, I choose to move, or I choose to collision detect, then I choose the other
if I wrote a game in serial, I would still have to either move each object first, or collision detect each object first
 
You can't collide before you move.
But you don't want to move after you collide.
 
what I was thinking is
 
I'd say do a collision check that peeks first, then moves, then detects again.
 
9:31 PM
can't peek, really
 
why not....?
If you have no room to move, cancel the move.
 
well, think about it
whether or not I have room to move could depend on any number of other nearby objects and where they're going to move
especially if they have random movement
 
oh
yeah, that's hard
 
I would have to simulate the entire next frame
to determine that I can't move
 
that's why objects typically have a big sphere around them that collides, and not the object itself
 
9:32 PM
I think that maybe a single frame's inaccuracy is an acceptable loss
especially if using bounding boxes/spheres
 
The only day this will all make sense...
is when 3d represents volume instead of surface, and we have enough parallel processors to handle each atom.
 
I'm fine with vertices as they are, personally
 
Well make sense = no more wierd collisions and things touching stuff they aren't touching.
 
ah, well, if I run at 30FPS and in one frame, it looks a tiny bit off, you'll never notice
 
If you're running objects in parallel.... you're not, because you're running groups of objects in parallel.
Which means you're creating a traditional engine but splitting up processors between sets of objects.
 
9:37 PM
the granularity of the processing isn't a particularly relevant fact
because I could have infinite objects
 
That's what I just said.
You're not really accomplishing anything new.
 
never said that I was
thread pooling like this isn't a new idea, I saw a Microsoft presentation about it recently
 
I say turn all your objects into ghosts.... collision detection is easier
 
lol
 
What's really amusing... is doing all that work for an object people never see.....
 
9:43 PM
I find it entertaining to work on concurrency
it's more challenging
 
It's not much different than database management I suppose....
You never know when someone might be editing something
 
nah
concurrency works for pre-determined systems with pre-determined ownerships
human editors might choose to edit anything at any time
 
However, you never know when some process might need some resource. So even though you have an idea of what would need what and how often, you still don't know when it will be needed. So in a sense, the process might choose to edit anything at any time.
 
For anybody who cares, the Code Review site is now up.
 
The only difference is that you'll know if a collision will occur or not....
@JerryCoffin link?
 
9:52 PM
@Jerry: It still apears in private beta on my box.
Do I need to incant something?
 
OM-mena-mena
Do-do-dih-do-do
 
I didn't do anything special to get to it...
 
wierd
ok, thanks!
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Q: Does My Class Introduce Undefined Behavior?

John DiblingMy question: Does my Formatter class (or the intended use of it) introcue any UB? In our production code, we cannot use Boost or C++0x. Formatting strings using sprintf or stringstream is annoying in this case, and this prompted me to write my own little Formatter class. I am curious if the i...

 
10:07 PM
hrmm just realize that my code is not that portable.. there is no inttypes.h on Windows, cause of the lack of C++ support, what can I do besides crying?
 
@JohnDibling I like where you multiply the return and this keywords: return * this. Very awesome.
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@James: Thanks. I'm a very fancy programmer. :)
@Nils: What do you mean, lack of C++ support?
@James: That's actually a typo. :) I've fixed it.
 
err lack of c99 support, sry
 
sbi
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A: Where is <inttypes.h> in Visual Studio 2005?

sbiIt's at google. VS doesn't come with <inttypes.h>

 
ah somebody ported it :) Now I just need sys/time, thanks @sbi
 
10:15 PM
What is <inttypes.h>? Is it different from <stdint.h>?
 
0
Q: How do I use arrays in C++?

FredOverflowHow do I use arrays in C++? C++ inherited arrays from C where they are used virtually everywhere. C++ provides abstractions that are easier to use and less error-prone (std::vector<T> since C++98 and std::array<T, n> since C++0x), so the need for arrays does not arise quite as often ...

 
@JamesMcNellis WP says: "It includes the stdint.h header. It defines a number of macros for use with the printf and scanf family of functions, as well as functions for working with the intmax_t type."
 
@sbi: Isn't it supposed to be included in the C++ Standard via the "Normative References" (1.2/1)?
 
@JohnDibling C++03 only references the C89 spec.
 
@James: Aha!
 
10:16 PM
@Nils I see.
 
is there an useful substitution for sys/time.h on win?
 
@sbi: I wrote the array FAQ you requested.
 
@FredOverflow Link or it doesn't exist!
 
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Q: How do I use arrays in C++?

FredOverflowC++ inherited arrays from C where they are used virtually everywhere. C++ provides abstractions that are easier to use and less error-prone (std::vector<T> since C++98 and std::array<T, n> since C++0x), so the need for arrays does not arise quite as often as it does in C. However, whe...

 
Oh my.
 
10:24 PM
Wall of text!
 
sbi
@FredOverflow Oops. Who am I to request anything on SO??
 
Not to devalue what you've done, @Fred, but IMO FAQ's should be short and consise. Rather than a complete treatment of a subject.
 
@FredOverflow: I haven't read it yet, but you need to add, in big bold letters a statement that an array is not a pointer.
Not that people are ever confused about that.
 
@JamesMcNellis Well, I don't say it in bold letters, but I do distinguish between T[n] and T*, and I mention array-to-pointer decay.
 
sbi
@FredO Is there any particular order this should be read in? If so, you might want to make this clear. (See my operator overloading FAQ for how i did this.)
 
10:30 PM
humm can anybody recommend me a link where the Visual Studio build system is explained? I usually try go avoid this by using cmake
 
@sbi You are the C++ FAQ god, and we obey your commands blindly ;)
 
sbi
@DavidR Welcome to the chat!
 
@sbi It is to be read in the order "part one", "part two" and "part three". I thought that was obvious :)
 
sbi
@FredOverflow Oh damn, I missed that. Sorry.
 
10:31 PM
I was reading the FAQ and was going to write some comments, and then thought of maybe a chat... First time I use this feature, so just a noob here :)
 
Hm, given that the faq is about arrays, perhaps I should have started with part zero instead of part one? ;)
 
sbi
@DavidRodríguezdribeas There's a link to a few newbie hints on the right.
@FredOverflow Oh please. Stop doing this, all of you. It's really getting on my nerve. All I've done is to post this question on meta and add one (!) FAQ.
 
@sbi I was just kidding ;)
I wanted to write about arrays for a long time, anyway.
 
hey sbi
 
@DavidRodríguezdribeas Which FAQ do you mean by "reading the faq"?
 
10:34 PM
are you sure that the boolean logic in that operator overloading FAQ is right?
 
sbi
@JamesMcNellis Have you plonked that feed guy? I have him setup so he posts every addition to the FAQ tag here. He did so 7 messages before your link request.
@FredOverflow Well, I wasn't.
 
@sbi Noted.
 
@FredOverflow: I added a comment, and later removed it not to create too much noise in the Array - FAQ. I miss from the first point the fact that the size of the array is optional if you use aggregate initialization. int array[] = { 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 }
 
@sbi I got the feed and was also surprised about James' request.
 
sbi
@FredOverflow Yours. He's already started adding comments.
 
10:35 PM
@DavidRodríguezdribeas Oh, you can add a fourth answer about initialization if you want!
Though I guess most people aren't really confused about array initialization...
 
@sbi No, I just don't pay attention. (Actually, I just failed to correlate Fred's statement with the feed post. I guess it's time for a seventh cup of coffee.)
 
@JamesMcNellis Do you know the Futurama episode where Fry drinks 100 cups of coffee? :)
 
sbi
@FredO BTW, I just pasted my disclaimer into your question, because it worked so wonderfully on my operator overloading FAQ. I hope you don't mind.
 
@sbi Excellent! Thank you very much.
 
@FredOverflow Yes! :-D
 
sbi
10:37 PM
@JamesMcNellis That's almost a year's quota of coffee for me.
Step 1: Paste code you wrote into http://codereview.stackexchange.com. Step 2: Get feedback. Step 3: Apply for job as lion-tamer
 
@FredOv, I meant just adding that to the first sentence as a comment: An array is denoted as T[n] where... The size argument is optional if the array is initialized in the definition.
 
@sbi Oh, codereview is out of beta!
 
@sbi How is codereview.stackexchange.com all that different from thedailywtf.com?
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@DavidRodríguezdribeas Oh, but that section is about array types, and those aren't initialized ;)
 
sbi
@JamesMcNellis "You have fully used your vote allowance for today" Dammit!!!
Ha, being a room owner does have its privileges! <evil_grin/>
 
@sbi: How old do I have to be in order to be considered "old" as in "grumpy old programmers"?
 
sbi
Jan 19 at 23:02, by sbi
@TomalakGeretkal Since I'm The Grumpy Old Man [TM] around here, you are, by definition, not as old as I am. Years don't matter.
 
sbi
@all Did you know that we are - by far! - the most active chatroom on all of SO?
And I suspect this is not only the case right now.
And those Java and C# wimps say C++ is dead!
 
10:45 PM
Of course, C++ programmers must be excellent in communication to eradicate as much bugs and prevent as much pitfalls as possible :)
 
@sbi The JavaScript room is far more popular over all time, but the fact that C++ is second is impressive.
 
There really is a room for tina and alf? LOL.
 
Sorry to bring back the array faq again :P But I am reading it with my careful nitpicking language lawyer googles (and the C++ standard at hand)...
In the *Anonymous arrays* section (not too fond of the term, but ...) arrays are dynamically allocated with a new expression where the type is an array or with the ... well, while I would not really dig into that level of detail, I would change the sentence:
arrays are created using the new operator
with
arrays are created using the new[] operator
 
sbi
2 days ago, by tina
alf ocme there
2 days ago, by sbi
@DeadMG C++ discussions are going on at SO proper. This is the chat, and whenever I have the time and energy I work very hard to keep discussions off-topic. :)
@JamesMcNellis Oh, is it?
Wait! How do you know? Have you been nasty again and played with the JS kids???
@DavidRodríguezdribeas But, yeah, I'd agree to that.
 
@sbi I wrote some JavaScript about six years ago or so... we used AJAX before there were big fancy AJAX libraries that made it easy. I'm glad not to be doing web programming anymore...
 
10:54 PM
@DavidRodríguezdribeas If you read the standard carefully, you will find that there is no such thing as a new[] operator ;) see 2.13 "Operators and Punctuators"
 
Anyway, on the main chat page, there's a tiny number in the bottom right corner of each "room box" that says the total number of messages posted in the room.
 
sbi
@JamesMcNellis Oh, I missed that. (And this is a good excuse. :))
 
§5.3.4/8 If the allocated type is an array type, the allocation function’s name is operator new[] and the deallocation function’s name is operator delete[].
I agree that you do not really call operator new[], you use a *new expression* that ends up calling the correct operator, but both operators are defined in the language :)
 
@sbi There is a cat fluent in c declarator syntax? :)
 
sbi
@JamesMcNellis See, the tavern and C# room are rivals we should keep an eye on. :)
 
10:57 PM
@DavidRodríguezdribeas operator new and the new operator are not the same thing at all.
 
sbi
@FredOverflow We've all heard that a million monkeys banging on a million typewriters will eventually reproduce the entire works of Shakespeare.
 
Spiral rule... never knew that.... that's awesome
volatile char * const chptr;

char is a pointer to a volatile constant chptr
hmm... not right...
 
I'm pretty sure char is just char :)
 
well it said start at the unknown
now I'm sure I didn't know what a char was before.
 
11:02 PM
LOL
 
sbi
@FredOverflow We all know that a million cats walking across a million keyboards will, eventually, write the declaration a pointer to a function that takes a pointer to a function taking an int pointer and a void pointer pointer plus a pointer to a function taking a void pointer pointer and an int pointer.
 
@sbi Yeah, I just saw that and immediately upvoted :)
 
@FredOverflow I think Freud said that, didn't he? "Sometimes a char is just a char"?
 
God how I hate the C declarator syntax.
@JamesMcNellis Yeah, something like that... also, my other car is a char.
 
sbi
@JamesMcNellis Ah! "You have fully used your vote allowance for today." And you guys keep handing these out like there's no tomorrow to keep some for!
 
11:06 PM
@FredOverflow I have not found new operator anywhere in the standard. What is usually called new operator is referred in the standard as new expression and has different shapes. Don´t misunderstand me, I like the fact that you decided to write it, and I do value (I know how hard it is to write something technical) the effort that you have put into it. I am just going over it and trying to polish the very few places where I don't agree 100%.
 
sbi
Hi @Charles, the current discussion are all over the place, while @David tries (but fails) to stir an on-topic discussion.
 
@sbi: Business as usual, then.
 
@DavidRodríguezdribeas Again, 2.13 "Operators and punctuators" [lex.operators]
 
So irritated I missed that cdecl question.
 
sbi
@CharlesBailey Yes! Oh yeah, and @FredO has written a new FAQ, and a million cats write complex C declarations. (Anything I missed?)
 
11:07 PM
@DavidRodríguezdribeas Your name sounds familiar. Are you on the C++ standard committee?
 
@FredOv 2.13 contains the list of operators, but if that is the new operator, it is the only place where it is mentioned, while operator new is mentioned all around (well, all around §5.3.4 where it talks about new
 
sbi
@FredOverflow He's a >20k user who's been on SO for >2 years and very active in the c++ tag. What else does it need to be familiar to us?
@CharlesBailey But you didn't, it's still not closed yet. :)
 
No, I don't think my brain could handle that level of discussion :) Just a regular SO user that has got most his reputation on a single tag
 
@DavidRodríguezdribeas Okay, but operator new and operator new[] are just allocation functions, and my FAQ isn't concerned with them at all. I'm pretty sure they are covered in sbi's FAQ about operator overloading.
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A: Operator overloading

sbiOverloading new and delete Basics In C++, when you write a new expression like new T(arg) two things happen when this expression is evaluated: First operator new is invoked to obtain raw memory, and then the appropriate constructor of T is invoked to turn this raw memory into a valid object. Li...

There you go.
 
I know, and I understand that saying `operator new []` there is incorrect (as much as `operator new`). What you do is use a *new-expression* and that will call either `operator new` or `operator new[]` depending on the presence of the [] and the type T
typedef int array[4];
int * p = new array; // calls operator new []
int * q = new int[4]; // calls operator new [] even if no [] are present
int * r = new int; // calls operator new
 
11:14 PM
@sbi But it's already answered.
 
sbi
@FredOverflow Well, my operator overloading treatise actually handles new and delete as the operator family's red-haired stepchild. Yes, they are operators, and they can be overloaded, but they aren't what people usually think about when they talk of "2operator overloading". I feel like this would deserve its own topic.
 
@DavidRodríguezdribeas I see. I think you should add that as a fourth answer, if you have enough time to flesh it out.
 
sbi
@CharlesBailey Well, that hasn't stopped 5 others from throwing their hats into the ring. (Where a million cats are chasing them.)
@DavidRodríguezdribeas Morkdown fails here for multi-line messages. :(
 
@sbi In this particular case it did not fail, I did not add markdown in the first place :)
 
@sbi We could also have combine that with an allocator FAQ, although I'm afraid nobody hardly ever asks about allocators :)
 
sbi
11:22 PM
'course you did:
`operator new`
@FredOverflow That's an entry for the IFAQ.
 
@sbi lol... I was thinking in the last lines with the code. I don't even know what I am writing
 
sbi
Wow. Does my message to @David also miss the attribution for you guys?? I wonder how I did that.
Or is it
the multi-line format?
@sbi Yeah, that's it!
Morkdown is really quirky here!
I herewith officially request to rename Morkdown (formerly known as Letdown) to Quirkdown.
...
Ok, accepted without any dissentient votes.
 
I've finished reading the array faq. Thanks @FredOv for the effort, the result is good!
 
@DavidRodríguezdribeas I agree with your point about my naming, though. I'll try to come up with better namens than "named arrays" and "anonymous arrays". How about "scope-bound arrays" and "dynamic arrays"?
 
sbi
@DavidRodríguezdribeas Phew, thanks for that message. You typed that while I looked up "soliloquizing".
 
11:30 PM
What is the opposite of dynamic? :)
 
@sbi BTW, on the codereview.stackexchange.com thing. Am I the only one that fears that this (together with programmers, and other spin-offs) could break up SO into different services and make searches harder?
 
sbi
@DavidRodríguezdribeas I dunno. What's on-topic on crse seems mostly off-topic on SO proper anyway.
OTOH, I do see a problem with that site:
Jan 14 at 20:08, by sbi
@RobertPitt The problem with a code review site is that you need to find enough experienced users, or the idea won't fly, even if all novices in the world committed to it.
BTW, who knows their way around SE feeds enough to add crse to this room's feed?
 
Well, I usually have SO open in a tab in the browser, I hardly ever go to programmers.stackexchange.com (only following links), and I can imagine that I will follow the same pattern with codereview... i.e. I will probably miss some pieces of code that I would like to take a look at.
For example this... I have an interest in multithreading, but if I had not came to the chat looking for Fred, I would not even know that there were code reviews going on there
 
@DavidRodríguezdribeas I only know about codereview because its inventor came here a couple of days ago and molested us repeatedly with invitations ;)
 
sbi
@DavidRodríguezdribeas I usually have two dozen SO pages and half a dozen pse pages open in one browser window, chat plus a dozen questions recently opened from the chat on another, plus two more browser windows for private and work-related stuff. (And if I start researching something, I usually open a fifth browser window, which i sometimes also keep open for a day or two.) Nevertheless, I do miss a lot. :)
@FredOverflow That is how ads work, though, isn't it? You are really pissed of by the steady repetition, but in the end you do recognize the product's name among the dozens of others on the shelf.
And unless you all start to do what I often do (I do not buy the stuff they try to hammer into me), it just keeps repeating...
 
11:44 PM
@sbi Well, I haven't "bought" codereview yet, either... but I might, eventually, should the need arise :)
 
@sbi, I guess I am limited, with only two eyes I don't think I can manage that many windows at once :) Seriously, I usually have around 5-10 tabs (I prefer tabs to windows) with things that I am actively checking --email, so, a personal wiki, one or two articles, and company tools (Jira, a couple of ibuild and bamboo's, internal code reviews, ...) and I can hardly manage to code, which is what I get paid for.
 
sbi
@FredOverflow Oh, do they actually sell it? :)
 
@DavidRodríguezdribeas I agree, maybe a code-review tag on normal SO would have been enough...
@sbi Maybe I should have said "bought into " :)
 
sbi
@DavidRodríguezdribeas Didn't I say I have several dozen pages open in one browser window? That does imply tabs, of course. I love tabs.
 
:) That's the good thing of not being a native speaker, I cannot be blamed for not using the most appropriate preposition
 
11:46 PM
@DavidRodríguezdribeas You can get paid for writing code? Does heaven have Internet now?
 
sbi
@FredOverflow Then I would have found something else to make fun of. I'm in a funny mood tonight. (And I'm not even through my second beer yet...)
 
> May I politely recommend mathoverflow for the discussion concerning the statistical probability of a cat producing the code above by walking across a keyboard?
 
sbi
@DavidRodríguezdribeas Why not? I'm not a native and can make fun of what others post, so those can be blamed. (Even if they are Germans like me, as @FredO is.)
 
LOL
@David: I really think there is enough to say about array initialization to write a fourth answer. I'd be happy to see you write it ;)
 
sbi
@FredOverflow Although grumpy I am, I granted him that. But then he didn't even recommend it!
 
11:49 PM
Guys, it's been nice, but I've got to go. Its getting late and I need to go to work early in the morning.
 
Time vs. SO...
 
sbi
@DavidRodríguezdribeas Oh, which TZ are you in?
 
I'm glad my work doesn't start until 3 pm tomorrow :)
 
sbi
It's late for me, too.
@FredOverflow Work?? I thought you are a student?!
 
@FredOverflow It's much easier to find small details to pick on than to actually write :) I will think if I can manage to write something that will take more than a couple of lines.
 
sbi
11:51 PM
@DavidRodríguezdribeas I, too, think, you should think whether you can manage to think...
 
@sbi GMT, but my girlfriend has already been complaining for over an hour...
 
sbi
Wow, did I mention I'm in a funny mood tonight?
 
I find it interesting that my answer on "multidimensional arrays" got the most upvotes. Is it because multidimensional arrays are a major source of confusion, or is it because of the ASCII art in my answer? :)
 
Hello everyone.
 
sbi
@DavidRodríguezdribeas Ah, that. Well, what's a girlfriend wanting you in bed compared to us??
 
11:52 PM
did I say "think to think", I don't recall, re-read the last comment above :P
 
hey guys
 
@FredOverflow I sometimes catch myself upvoting the most confusing answer. :|
 
well, she is the one that can keep complaining all day long tomorrow and the one I cannot silence by closing the browser. bye!
 
@David: When your girlfriend says something funny, can you starr it? :)
Oh wait, I suppose you could just laugh at it...
All you need is laugh!
 
sbi
@DavidRodríguezdribeas You've been changing history! Oh boy, now bad things are going to happen to us...
 
11:53 PM
I feel sick :(
 
sbi
Hello @Maxpm!
 
@DeadMG: Sorry to hear that. :-( Also, not really on-topic, but, bummer on your low score for the primary. Surely not a good thing to add to your sickness. :-(
 
sbi
@FredOverflow It's the great art, no question of that.
 
@DeadMG What is it? Lack of modules? C declarator syntax hell? Undefined behavior?
 
@Chris: I don't care about the primary :P
lol
nope
none of the above
for some reason, I feel terribly sick, but only when attempting to sleep
 
11:54 PM
@DeadMG stomach?
insomnia?
 
even getting up and going to the toilet is sufficient to make me feel ten times better
no, stomach
 
Since the "General" chatroom doesn't seem to be active: Does anyone know of a suitably-geeky theme for Chrome?
 
If you're unsure whether your sickness is linked to your colon, C++ has the ?: operator for that.
 
@FredOverflow <Rimshot>
 
lol
it is most assuredly linked to my stomach
but only when I need to sleep
 
11:57 PM
Oh dear.
 
sbi
@DeadMG Then it's a linked list?
 
lol
 
What about when you're just lying down?
 
@DeadMG Hm, does stomach << food throw?
 
sbi
@DeadMG Oh, linked to sleep, too? That it's a doubly linked list!
 
11:57 PM
nope
during the day I feel absolutely fine, eating fine
 
Acid reflux maybe? Had that for years. The nights were terrible.
 
Odd.
 
hmm, I dunno
it sure produces a lot of air
both ways :(
 
sbi
@FredOverflow Hell, I'm glad I'm alone tonight. Me keeping LOL would freak out anyone knowing I'm in a C++ chat room!
 
Did you eat any Brussels sprouts lately?
 
11:59 PM
no
 
Oh, you old people and your many illnesses. When people my age get sick, we just blame it on the weather or the dirty bathrooms. xD
 
hey, I'm a 20-year-old student :P
 
I beat you by five years. :P
 
@DeadMG Too much stress, evidently! Or not enough.
 

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