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Ven
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16:01
My code works, but I don't understand why.
oh no, he's at stage two
Ven
Ven
at least I have tests.
@milleniumbug look – I might not know why it works, but at least I have tests, and they prove that it works.
@Ven at least I have chicken :P
Ven
Ven
:(
user1804599
@Ven woot exhaustive tests
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16:05
those are nice
user1804599
although not very viable in a language with mutable globals!
Ven
Ven
I'm not using mutable globals, because I'm not retarded.
user1804599
still not a proof then
user1804599
16:06
at least not when you treat it as a black box
Guyz, how do you handle unit testing of private APIs with cmake and gtest?
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You call them using random values and observe that they exhibit desired properties.
@R.MartinhoFernandes It hought it was that photo of a strange sea slug at first .___.
Nice dice though :)
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@Morwenn Yes, Robot is a strange sea slug holding various shiny objects.
16:21
@AndyProwl Everybody has access to you?
@Elyse Yes, I use Linux Mint xfce.
K, so I'm up to 190€ worth of dice. Not too crazy.
Thought I'd freak out more.
Lounge, Nathan. Nathan, Lounge. <3 War... War never changes in New Zealand.
Why is there an almost naked man on the floor
@Jefffrey Because I needed his clothes, duh!
@Jefffrey It's Fallout, duh
@ElimGarak Isn't the official release date, like, tomorrow?
16:29
@набиячлэвэлиь Fractured per timezones. Just VPN to Australia/NZ.
@ElimGarak I thought you used your MaD $kIllZ and CrAXx0rEd it
Without the decryption key, you can only sit naked like that guy in the background. :D
Makes some form of sense
Alright, I'm going back. You guys keep it tight. I need to pose dead people in Boston.
Also, I just noticed... I'm pretty hot.
> How to prepare tofu
1. Throw it in the trash
2. Grill some meat
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16:37
@ElimGarak Fuck... Fuck this quote.
@ElimGarak whos nathan
@Mr.kbok The hot dude in the pic. (The alive one)
The Chat, chat never changes..
@ElimGarak what's that from?
16:38
@Mr.kbok Fallout 4
@Mr.kbok FO4
@ElimGarak The dead one is 6969x hotter
it's planned????
Just met the dog from the trailer. Initially, I wanted to shoot him because companions suck in Bethesda games. But he's so adorable, yes he is, yes he iiis.
just shoot the dog and eat his flesh, It's a byte dog anyways. It Bytes
Ven
Ven
I now understand why my code works \o/
16:41
@Ven Congrats
Ven
Ven
ty
@набиячлэвэлиь omg lol
@набиячлэвэлиь I didn't know
@l0oky Are you NL?
Netherlander?
nope
You don't even know who NL is, meh
16:44
R ponimayu
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@ElimGarak Bethesda games don't have companions. They have human shaped walking chests to store your loot.
@ElimGarak Doesn't beat Fawkes
Fawkes is the cutest companion evar
Ven
Ven
I have 300 lines of test for my CSV parser.
NL can stand for: Places Netherlands, ISO 3166-1 alpha-2 country code .nl, the Internet country code top-level domain (ccTLD) for the Netherlands Newfoundland and Labrador, a Canadian Province North Lanarkshire, a council area of Scotland Nuevo ...
16:46
@набиячлэвэлиь Don't trust me?
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@ElimGarak how do you rate the game compared to NV?
user406009
Buy or don't buy?
@l0oky You still didn't find NL
NewLine?
lol you can keep me guessing
Look for the eggscum, is my hint
16:48
-.-'
sounds something without dignity
He's also known as scumlord, egg, egghead
Related terms: Dad Squad, The Bald Bros
@Lalaland So far? It feels great! Definitely worth buying. Has a lot of fun additions, but I'd probably only berate the dialogue system. I am hoping there is more to it than question/yes/no/neutral.
The perk chart is kinda cool, but it has so much choice early on depending on your stats, I can't decide which one I want more.
@ElimGarak Use console to give you skillpoints, get all of them
@набиячлэвэлиь dziwak
@набиячлэвэлиь I want this game to last as long as possible, so I am playing on the highest difficulty. I almost got fucked by radroaches at the very beginning, tho.
16:50
@l0oky What'chu be talkin' 'boot, mate?
@ElimGarak lol get fucked by radroaches
I like how the main character responds to the world in a really real way.
Rednek mode activated
Did you get fucked by the mantises?
(the ones you can just walk over)
@ElimGarak nudity!
@набиячлэвэлиь Haven't seen them yet, but there are giant mosquitos.
Ven
Ven
16:53
@sehe I wanted to use one of your answers about parsing CSV, but my boss won't let me use Boost.Spirit :(
@sehe Making a thread on top of a worker did not change the effect.
@Ven Bosses do that?
Tough stuff :/
@Ven it (your boss) sucks
Ven
Ven
@l0oky well it was like "don't add an unnecessary dependency on something that big when you just wrote a parser in 60 lines"
@Ven In many cases boost is all you need
Ven
Ven
@l0oky "don't drink too much kool-aid", certainly?
17:06
@R.MartinhoFernandes Tofu's good, you silly.
Tofu is pretty terrible
I had to spit it out the day I tried it
Ven
Ven
you need more soy sauce
lmao ate a yogurt literally 10 mins ago
stomach already going crazy
I must be rejecting anything that's not pizza or burger
like, internally
Ven
Ven
17:12
Yer toyin' with powerful forces.
That's rough..
Yogurt is a milk derivative. It's not uncommon for adults to be lactose intolerants.
Tofu is good when the sauce is great.
What the hell are you talking about? With the exception of "go to hell", none of these are even remotely vulgar and are all appropriate uses of the word. — Mysticial 6 secs ago
Ven
Ven
@Morwenn ..same for snails?
17:13
@Jefffrey I actually do tend to get the shits if I eat cold milk
hmm
You kind of have to train your body to accept milk again
By default your body just forgets to be able to digest milk after a while that you don't do it.
Ven
Ven
@Mysticial why are you hurting this poor, special snowflake :(
the weirdest thing just went through my mind
jefery
@Ven No idea, I only ever ate snail purée to put on toasts.
I tasted pretty much like the garlic sauce used to make it.
Ven
Ven
@Jefffrey Seems interesting. Do you have an article I can read about that?
17:14
How long will it take me to change my name on SO
@Jefffrey welp at least it's tasty
Ven
Ven
h:26771718 yes. snails are tasteless. you just eat the garlic
it's unbearable not to be able to call me Jefery
it's some kind of yogurt + strawberry + cereals
@Ven It's probably not true
Ven
Ven
17:15
@Jefffrey oke. I'll ask someone else then :)
It's a mixture of things I've heard or read on the internet in the past 3 years.
I'm so bored right now .___.
Ven
Ven
@Morwenn I just wrote 300 lines of test for a CSV string parser. think you can beat me?
@Morwenn play Undertale
17:17
@AlexM. lactose?
@Ven I've spent months on a useless sorting library.
Ven
Ven
@Morwenn why useless? :o
Woah, I was right.
That's weird.
Ven
Ven
last time I looked, it seemed cool
@JohanLarsson Pizzas contain cheese.
17:17
The things I remember are usually like 20% right.
@Ven Who would use a whole sorting library?
@EtiennedeMartel and my favorite contains four of them
@EtiennedeMartel true but that might be a manageable amount
It may be cool, but it's still mostly useless :p
I think it's only about cold milk stuff
if I eat say warmed up milk with cereals
im always ok
17:19
Did someone read "Functional Relational Programming: Out of the tar pit"?
Ven
Ven
@Morwenn depends on how crazy it gets. If I can do really, really insane things, then I'm interesting (I work in data-heavy stuff)
It's a long paper published like many years ago about programming complexity, state, functional programming and the relational model.
Ven
Ven
@Jefffrey not yet
I'm 70% into it and it's quite interesting
@Ven It doesn't even handle parallelism (yet), so probably not a good fit for data-heavy stuff. Also it only works with g++ 5.2.
Ven
Ven
@Morwenn oh :[
so tired
I want my holiday
@Ven The thing is I don't really know how I want to handle parallelism in the library. You know, whether I want execution policies and stuff.
anyone here willing to become jesus and move xmas day to tomorrow?
Ven
Ven
@Morwenn that's very hard
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17:23
Design choices... I am currently implementing projection parameters. I still have sentinels, parallel algorithms and stability dispatch to design.
so
I'm working on the 1-step build
click open_visual_studio.bat -> f5 to debug
"Tofu is awesome, just add food to it."
17:42
shredded tofu is pretty great
Let me shred your tofu bb
what with, your toy fork?
( ͡~ ͜ʖ ͡°)
hello, scott
@ScottW <3
I'm watching Blizzcon vods, I have to get tickets next year
17:50
@l0oky is not a worker. Is not what it's called and is not what i called it. Stop repeating your confusion. Make a SSCCE and put it on Stack Overflow
Sigh auto correct
k
thanks for your input
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Hey sluts.
I am tired, * yawn * cya
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@Morwenn Use MapReduce and sharding. They just work.
K. You need work ("work", not worker or whatever shady association happened in your head) to keep the io_service running even though it ran out of other jobs.
work is the perfect "idle" job, so to speak
17:53
@Elyse The idea is to create the design to handle that in a generic manner. To be honest, I don't really care about the algorithms by themselves :p
@ScottW Hey :3
user1804599
Parallel algorithm for what?
@ScottW cough
proceeds to send scott to cut some trees
@Elyse Sorting of course. I'm still of the same library.
@Morwenn s/library/drugs/
@AlexM. lol
17:56
yay someone got it
user1804599
@Morwenn Not all sorting algorithms are parallelisable.
@Elyse I know, hence the design questions :p
user1804599
Just delete all your code and go play video games instead.
I'm quickly bored when I play video games too.
Some lunch loves me :3
user1804599
18:33
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gg vagrant
Did I hear Chandler Carruth say somewhere that you should use std::vector's reserve() liberally? Where was that? Anyone know/remember?
reserve() is nice
I had previously thought that using reserve a lot would be premature optimization.
So if that's not true, I'd like to know why
I benched it and it didn't make any difference.
user1804599
18:40
Cabal has so many dependencies.
@bluefog What is that supposed to mean?
@Elyse lol
@caps Rule of thumb: Use reserve() before growing when you know the final (or near-final) size of the collection after growing.
I measured it
and it didn't make a difference
@bluefog It does make a big difference, just probably not in your scale
@bluefog That doesn't mean much. It's context-dependent how useful it will be.
@набиячлэвэлиь Is there any reference for that (working on a style guide)
18:43
@набиячлэвэлиь True
@caps Logical reasoning?
@набиячлэвэлиь :)
@caps reserve() lets you minimize the amount of allocnew-move-deleteold operations, hence increasing the performance measurably
@набиячлэвэлиь That's the best rule of thumb: "use your brain"
Allocating large chunks of storage is expensive
@milleniumbug Yet so rarely applied nowadays
18:45
@milleniumbug Your instincts about performance are usually wrong. Right?
As is copying/moving elements
@caps Wrong
@caps Instincts about what's the bottleneck in the code, yes
> Traian-Virgiliu Dusa
Senior COBOL Developer at Fortech
this guy
must be rich
also reserve() is not only about performance
it's also about iterator invalidations
18:46
Oh, that too
@milleniumbug Ooh, good point.
@caps Most of the time I hear this advice in context of "don't do dubious design decisions based on cargo culting or incomplete knowledge". For example, optimizing x86 assembly only by reducing instruction count is wrong if you don't take into account caching, out-of-order execution and instruction latency (and many others).
that said, I wouldn't bother with reserve() myself to improve performance
at least not until I start thinking the program is too slow
Meh, it's obvious to use it when you're dumb-copying elements
But it's ~~~effort~~~ if you do more than that
@milleniumbug I wouldn't bother with anything to improve performance until I start thinking the program is too slow.
that's the luxury of writing a user-facing application
18:57
Is the user quick enough to notice we're doing this inefficiently?
> Nah
Ship it!
if you're faster than the user, that's enough
everyone knows nice programmers finish first
yes
Ven
Ven
rofl
user1804599
rolf
19:07
jilf
That escalated quickly.
19:19
how can I tell the console window to close in c++? I have tried system("exit") with no avail to the correct result any ideas?
return from main :p
will try thanks.
I don't think you can close the console you're attached to in a console app.
19:23
it did not occur to me that putting return 0 in a if statement would work... I guess it does, because it closed the window, Thanks @melak47
I hope you don't mean if (return 0) :D
@CMS_95 it will exit your program...and then the window closes...
This is so good *-*
So good that that I can't English anymore apparently .__.
insufficient meat content
19:32
Lol, irrelevant.
@melak47 yes that is what I need it to do... but only if a condition is true... which works...
Ven
Ven
well now i'm hungry. and too poor to afford food
@Ven I would have told to come over if you didn't live so far away.
Ven
Ven
@Morwenn it's okay, i'm joking anyway :P
thanks still
Xeo
Xeo
19:36
@Morwenn are those... raisins?
@Xeo Yes :)
Xeo
Xeo
eww
Ven
Ven
so, anyone here thinks the Warcraft movie is gonna suck?
@Morwenn Obligatory (sorry):
user image
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updateMoles :: World -> World
updateMoles w = w'
    where w' = w & worldMoles %~ (>>= maybeToList . updateMole)

updateMole :: Mole -> Maybe Mole
updateMole m | m ^. moleHealth <= 0 = Nothing
             | otherwise            = Just m
user1804599
19:37
Much better. :3
@Ven I hope not, I've been waiting for it for so long
I added raisins, sunflower seeds and squash seeds in it.
Ven
Ven
@Elyse lenses are so incredibly unreadable :`\
@Borgleader I'm not vegan ._____.
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@Ven Chinese is also incredibly unreadable.
user1804599
19:38
Unless you learn it.
Ven
Ven
I'd object if someone made learning chinese mandatory to program.
Xeo
Xeo
I just had a huge salad
very kinky
Xeo
Xeo
with feta, cottage cheese, egg and turkey strips
user1804599
-1 not enough tofu
Xeo
Xeo
19:40
I haven't eaten anything else all day - and now I feel too full to eat more
best practice uint vs. unsigned int
uint is not a thing
user1804599
Nobody gives a shit.
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Stop bikeshedding.
user1804599
Pick one and you're done.
Xeo
Xeo
19:42
pick none!
pick int
pick them all
user1804599
I like just unsigned.
Xeo
Xeo
taco
are we playing the association game?
@Xeo Your new AV sucks. plz fix it
user1804599
19:43
@Xeo Eat this:
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as a dessert.
Xeo
Xeo
@Elyse too full!
user1804599
It's fucking delicious.
Xeo
Xeo
also, had a nice 300g Rib-Eye steak yesterday
19:43
Too much meat .___.
Xeo
Xeo
^ my reaction
Cheese orgy here tonight
user1804599
Maybe I should write a blog post on Tumblr on how eating meat is transphobic.
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@Xeo dat Stormtrooper
19:44
@Rerito Where do you live again? Am I too late for the orgy? :o
@Xeo You suck.
@Elyse Probably one of your best ideas to date x)
Xeo
Xeo
@Mysticial deja vu!
@Morwenn There's nothing left è_é
Xeo
Xeo
but yeah, I will prolly change it
looks bad at small size
Xeo
Xeo
or rather, unidentifiable
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> vegan-feminist intellectual
@Rerito So it's wasn't you who stole the tons of comté? :o
Unfortunately not :(
@Elyse Wow. Just wow.
@Rerito Too bad.
19:47
I would have loved some discount kilos though
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@Rerito kiloknallers
I made too much pasta. I'm full -_-
@mash namespace mycoollib { using uint = uint_fast_32_t; }
@ElimGarak when does fallout 4 unlock for you?
@Rerito Sometimes I want to buy a whole chesse you know, une meule.
19:49
and then mycoollib::uint errywhere
@Morwenn Yeah me too!
@Morwenn I like "Schwul" though
@sehe I don't know what that is.
It was in the main image
> Tofu ist schwules Fleisch
19:52
@Borgleader There are far better (read: more dense) protein sources than meat.
(No, I'm not a vegan.)
@sehe Oh right, I didn't read the picture.
Xeo
Xeo
@fredoverflow protein powder? :P
Ell
Ell
oh feckin hell
@Morwenn I'd roughly try to translate that as "sultry" or so
@fredoverflow idgi
19:53
@Mysticial I'm not that toilet guy.
tofu can be good
yall are just haters
Tofu is not really good per se, but it takes the taste of what you eat it with.
@Prismatic You just have to add food. It's amazing.
19:55
but no one that I know of eats tofu plain by itself
@Xeo Greek yoghurt and cottage cheese come to mind.
@R.MartinhoFernandes wow
@Morwenn But you keep eating vegan-y meals
Xeo
Xeo
cottage cheese is so good
@Borgleader I keep cooking meatless stuff, but I also eat non-vegan things.
19:56
@fredoverflow The irony of that comic is that teal guy is looking for beef
@Morwenn Like burritos? :P
@fredoverflow Vegans don't eat either.
@Borgleader I haven't eaten burritos since last year I think.
I ate so much today
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(<<%@~) just adjusts the target of an IndexedLens returning a supplementary result, or adjusts all of the targets of an IndexedTraversal and returns a monoidal summary of the supplementary results and the answer, what's the problem?
@R.MartinhoFernandes Vegans don't eat meat either.
Ell
Ell
19:57
@Morwenn I ate vegetarian burritos a while ago
Ell
Ell
they were yum
I don't think I eat enough protein
@Ell Red beans?
Ell
Ell
kindeh beans
@fredoverflow Yes, but Ted's remark that she lacks protein still holds despite the existence of yoghurt and cheese.
Xeo
Xeo
19:58
coworker brought vegetarian cake today
twas delicious
@Ell why, do we look upside down to you?
Ell
Ell
@melak47 lol
@R.MartinhoFernandes But why suggest meat when there are far better protein sources to fix a protein deficiency? (Okay okay, because the joke wouldn't have worked otherwise, I get it.)
@Ell Well yeah, I hardly make the difference but I bet we already had such a discussion here.
@fredoverflow The meat was suggested before, not as a solution.
Ell
Ell
19:59
@Morwenn I'd just never heard of red beans before :)

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