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actually C++ was my first language too
which is unlike 32890509823850902885092 of the editors that exist on windows
which breaks my workflow
Ell
Ell
Okay time to learn how to do random in haskell
Hey do people go to work at election day?
00:01
AH WONDERFUL.
@Nooble in America they do
it's why there's a movement to change election day to the weekend
@AlexM. Then... rebind?
Wait... that's in Belgium, because its mandatory to vote there
Parents at parties are the wooorse.
00:02
Also it has CUA mode built-in, you just have to switch it on
@jaggedSpire horrible
@CatPlusPlus that was part of the more complicated things that I had to read a manual for :A
Tuesday used to be market day or something, so it made sense back when there were markets because no one would have to rearrange their entire day to participate in elections
@Nooble more people would be able to go vote
which would be a good thing
because now only certain sub sections of the population can go vote
(elderly and jobless and those willing to take off time go vote)
Now, you have to rearrange your day to go vote because almost everyone has a variation on a 9-5, mon-fri job
00:04
Yes but a free day off for me.
@AlexM. Half of the point of these editors is turning them inside out and making them do exactly what you want, not the other way around :v
In France I think elections are always on Sunday (I'd have to check though).
@Nooble A free day off? It should be done in less than half an hour .___.
The voting is done in schools.
Which is why students have off (at least in NYC).
@Borgleader awww
you've been doing this for a while
why do you pass pictures of animals to each other
00:10
because cute
awwww
Because dog
nobody knows you're a dog on the internet
Ell
Ell
marmite is so addictive
@Nooble I was unaware that was a pic in the included win 7 pics lol (never had those or auto-deleted on install)
00:11
@Nooble them fluffy ears
so when I saw it some 3 months ago I was like
"wtf is nooble doing on my work pc"
pleas pet dog
@CatPlusPlus you're a cat
@AlexM. I'm everywhere.
Nooble is everywhere. All hail the High Emperor of Koalakind.
00:12
Nooble2016
@Ell you are devil spawn
I NEED TO GO TO BED
@jaggedSpire Hail Nooble!
@TonyTheLion No you don't.
:3
work :/
@TonyTheLion HOI!!!
00:13
@TonyTheLion that would be a waste of time
I have to do German and History homework.
Ell
Ell
@thecoshman no :o
Undertale is p good, read/play it
@CatPlusPlus Are you drunk?
@jaggedSpire lol
No it is Undertale reference
00:14
ah
a reference I didn't get
meh you didn't capitalize it correctly
shame on you
Shame!
I'm filled with determination
@TonyTheLion Poor object, destroyed.
seeing other people filled with determination fills me with determination
00:18
@CatPlusPlus it'll end badly
Ever since I have started building this new house, world becomes so much more interesting place in the urban area - I always look at other people's houses, I look at roofs, guessing about their structures, thinking about the stormwater design, and semi aware why they are constructed the way they are constructed.
@Borgleader chokes
Which of you S&M afficionado starrd @jaggedSpire choking?
Good joke
ty, im known for those
00:27
@Borgleader @AnalPhabet
Choking doesn't necessarily have to be an S&M thing.
Ell
Ell
Hmm
try :: a -> Maybe a -> a
ah that's fromMaybe
my site is back up ... sweet
Ell
Ell
00:44
Does anyone have psychic powers and the will to read my mind?
myfun :: RandomGen Int -> Puzzle -> Puzzle
Wussup
Ell
Ell
^what do I mean to write? (function taking a random generator and a puzzle and returning a puzzle)
@Jefffrey hey
What would the function do, internally?
Everything
Ell
Ell
apply 1 of 4 operations depending on the result of a random number
00:45
if puzzle is an object, that is totally possible :p
@Ell May I know these 4 operations?
Ell
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operationOne puzzle .. OperationFour puzzle :P
I can't share any code bcos anti-plaigerism system :/
Ok
I'm not sure what you mean to write
It looks fine to me with the infos at hand
Ell
Ell
Ah I was missing an :: Int
on the end of my clal to randomRs
00:50
@Borgleader I'm not seeing it
@jaggedSpire middle of the wheel
on the knob thingy
@Borgleader oh wow talk about good hiding places
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A: How do add random array values together into another array and then display them while counting how many values appear? C++

seheI liked this - quite cute - experiment. Here's a sample bit of code you cannot use (it uses all kinds of library stuff and C++14 goodness that your course will definitely not allow, statistically speaking, and which would raise a good number of eyebrows if you turned it in). However it can serv...

gosh
I thought she was looking for her kittens and was examining around the edges of the weel. :P
I should stop picking up random challenges. But... I learned that the density histograms in Boost Accumulator really suck for discrete sample domains
00:52
don't stop! You're learning many, many things!
@Borgleader WOW. I would have never seen that
@jaggedSpire I'm afraid I won't stop, even if it would be good for me
Ell
Ell
Now just the IO business to deal with
Google Developers Console's self help is seriously bad.
@sehe Took me a few minutes. Quite a clever hiding spot.
instincts rock
00:59
I followed it step by step and it just led me into a loop
Oo you have to log in ... your log in details are not automatically transferred ...
@Borgleader I was about to go to sleep. This will haunt my dreams ._.
@Morwenn Its not scary, its like a dragoon
kindof
Still, it looks like a hatching nightmare.
01:06
@Morwenn Here feast your eyes on this instead :)
I'll use this cute spider instead:
Anyway, I'm leaving, see you later :)
GOOD MORNING EVERYONE
@GregorMcGregor hi
@Morwenn Good night (ps: spider are never cute... evil evil creatures)
@TonyTheLion give it all the hugs!
Ell
Ell
I need a function like this
(a, b) -> Maybe a -> a
eh wait
01:19
That does... what
very useful
Maybe add a few more parameters just for safety
Ell
Ell
I'm thinking aloud is all
f (a, b) x = a
There you go
Ell
Ell
I'll just go to sleep
night
Stop thinking about signatures and start thinking about what you want to accomplish
01:20
a cure for cancer
"I need a function with this signature I just came up with" is stupid question on level with "which design pattern should I use"
Ell
Ell
Okay
Well, I want a function which you can give a Puzzle and StdGen, it will choose some function based on a random value produced by the generator and will return the new puzzle with that function applied to it
The function returns a Maybe Puzzle, so if what it returns is Nothing, the function needs to flip another random coin to try again with a different move
But I think I'll sleep on it anyway
Night all :)
You need to return the new StdGen if you're not threading it with State or whatever
Some sydney startup organizations are so sad, so much effort for so little money. When you think about the Aussie plumbers are getting $100 an hour and demand is quite consistent these a few years. Technology sector in Australia is just sad.
somedays ... someone should make robot plumbers & charge people $50 an hour for the service ...
user406009
Robot plumbers would be quite hard to do.
01:28
They also said that about planes and moon landings though
user406009
Yeah, we will get robot plumbers eventually.
But now that we have JavaScript everything becomes possible
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user406009
But a whole lot of other stuff will get automated first.
user406009
I just want my automatic cars.
user406009
Think of all the extra hours you will gain.
01:30
JavaScript is the perfect language for dealing with sewage
user406009
It would be like getting a whole bunch of extra years in your life.
@Lalaland On what
hmm, trying to compile a project made in C++/CLI, Unicode is set as the character set, but when I run the build it just shows gibberish (it's supposed to be Japanese). What gives?
Not driving?
user406009
Yep.
user406009
01:30
You could spend that time doing other, more productive things.
user406009
Like arguing with Bartek in the Lounge.
Are you aware of radical concepts like
@oldmud0 Check encoding of file also and your terminal
user406009
Oh, wait. That doesn't make sense.
Public transportation
01:31
@oldmud0 needs more details
Internet
user406009
@CatPlusPlus Public transportation has other costs.
user406009
For one thing you have to get to the public transportation.
user406009
And you might not get a seat.
01:32
@GregorMcGregor it's a GUI application, encoding of all files are UTF-8 without BOM (I had to convert it manually from Shift-JIS)
user406009
@CatPlusPlus Well of course it's not a big deal. It's a minor thing. But minor pleasures are what make life worth living.
user406009
I mean, you don't "need" a dishwasher or washing machine either.
@oldmud0 Have you tried using the other shift key
The solution to commute is to not commute at all
user406009
That has other costs. For one, it limits the available of jobs you can work in.
01:33
To the worthy ones
@GregorMcGregor Uh, Shift-JIS is an encoding, not a hotkey
Oh my bad
user406009
@CatPlusPlus That's arguable and depends on your priorities.
My priority is me
So it's entirely unrelated to Backspace-JIS and CapsLock-JIS?
01:34
I tried prepending it with L before the strings but it still does the same thing: i.imgur.com/aqAvdlC.png
user406009
What if your priority is money?
@oldmud0 yeah but are you using wstring wchar everywhere along the chain
I don't know much about GUIs :w thank god
hmmmm nope
there goes unicode support
but it's using System::String
There is a money threshold after which minimising effort is more important
Is that a .NET class
01:36
Yeah, System::String is .NET
user406009
@CatPlusPlus You can use extra cash to retire earlier.
And what controls are you using for the display
@Lalaland Not earlier enough to make extra effort worth it
@GregorMcGregor ...what are you talking about?
user406009
That depends on the exact specifics of the trade-off. And can vary widely.
01:37
If I could put a lot of effort in short term and get like millions and never have to work again
Then sure
@oldmud0 The UI, what is it, WinForms?
@GregorMcGregor Yes, it is indeed winforms.
Well then there's no reason it shouldn't work really
user406009
No, but retiring 5-10 years earlier seems like it would be a very nice perk.
01:39
I'd rather enjoy my young years
@Ell Randomly shuffe say a list of such functions and then traverse it
Insignificant
At that age you're almost dead anyway so who cares
user406009
You are "almost dead" at 50?
Practically yes
Almost certainly
01:40
Literally a foot in the grave
@jaggedSpire Here's my latest Qi wank of the day. It's pretty elegant, considering the task (o.O)
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A: count all lines between a multiline comment with c++

seheYou need a parser that's actually stateful and aware of input. E.g. you don't want to parse /* as the start of a block comment in c++ if it appears here: std::cout << "Hello /*interesting*/ world!\n"; Short of that, here's a quick demo of rolling the minimal parsers for the task you outli...

And now I'm off to bed!
@jaggedSpire There's some in New York.
@ScottW That's the place where Alex and Mysticial would meet
@ScottW I've been to pi before! yeah it's some pretty kickin' Chicago-style
Chicago pizzzza is weeeeird.
user406009
01:41
We should have a United States unconference.
Hahaha who wants to go to US
Unceastonference.
Do not invite nick.
@ScottW For dinner?
I remember it was quite cold last time.
user406009
@Nooble West coast, best coast. In your heart of hearts, you know it is true.
I'd love to go to the US if only it weren't so full of Americans
Well, shit, Undertale's Pacifist ending made me cry.
01:43
If I weren't totally opposed to travelling literally anywhere I could go to Canada maybe
East coast best coast because crowded things are great.
There we go.
And I say that as a American
So yeah
user406009
The next time I move, I am going to make sure the place has Internet supplied by a company that is not Comcast.
That probably doesn't include US
user406009
01:45
The shitty packet-loss and the shitty ping get really annoying.
so time warner then?
starts laugh-crying
I have to choose between AT&T and Charter here
and it's starting to look like Charter is the better option
@jaggedSpire ITT you're losing your mind
@EtiennedeMartel I'm enjoying reading about it more than playing tbh
@sehe Sometimes I like to think you are a Boost.Spirit shareholder
01:47
Don't fall asleep now
that would be a waste of time
@sehe shiny. I should start learning boost spirit.
@GregorMcGregor I'm holding 85% of the shares. Which nets 0 shares
Ell
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@LucDanton looks good
sounds good I mean
@sehe filthy capitalist
@Ell yes, I didn’t try it
Ell
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01:48
I implemented it with maybe though so far
@ScottW I'm on AT&T here, and weeknights I can't watch youtube on more than 240p.
Ell
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and regular case ... of
@CatPlusPlus Undertale's true strength is its ability to never stop surprising you. Experiencing that surprise yourself is basically what's so fun about it.
it's like getting hit in the face with a fish, over and over again.
user406009
@jaggedSpire It's sorta sad when you can get higher quality service on your phone.
01:48
both are unmistakably shit
@EtiennedeMartel I hate that JRPG-style UI fiddling
@sehe @Borgleader how would that actually translate to X3? I'm not sure we could runtime-switch to a different rule definition...?
And 3-lines-at-the-time dialogue boxes
Even when skipping that ridiculously slow animation it takes just fucking forever to check everything
It's a deconstruction of JRPG tropes. It's all done on purpose.
Bad on purpose, bad not on purpose, who cares
It's annoying to use
user406009
01:50
@CatPlusPlus But, "art"!
Also no audio options is unforgivable UI sin
I'm talking to you about how it's this emotional rollercoaster and you're nitpicking about technicalities.
I guess we both look for different things in games.
Right, people feeling bad about fighting etc
I'm here for dog jokes
We don't know woof anymore
Took me about 4 hours to get to the lab
And took me about 4 hours to read an LP that showed way more content and got farther along
01:54
@sehe Not sure what you mean by runtime switch, but in x3 since grammars are essentially just rules. I would have have made a rule for each programming language and ran the correct one, which is essentially what you did it seems.
@Borgleader Try to code it up? It's really short... :)
I don't regret buying it to support the dev or whatever, I just don't feel like actually playing it, let someone else wrangle with it
@CatPlusPlus Yes, but the impact is lessened if it's not you who's doing it. Because, ultimately, it's about you.
Meh, impact
It's a game
Also fuuuuck puzzles
Games can be more than a ruleset and some content.
01:58
I assure you that whether it's me pressing the buttons or someone else changes absolutely nothing
Hell, it's better if it's someone else because then I don't get annoyed by it
Esp with the puzzles and backtracking

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