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1:00 PM
@thecoshman pff, games existed before widescreen
 
@Griwes That's not as bad as decelerating a type
 
@Puppy It seems that the theoretical form of pure is better at that than the other forms then.
 
@BartekBanachewicz oh well, if you only want to play those, sure
 
@thecoshman and every game today still supports 4:3, no?
 
@Morwenn Not really convinced about that.
 
1:00 PM
@BartekBanachewicz yeah but it sucks :P
 
Hello everyone
 
IMO the Standard should define it in terms of the intended effect, not the exact limitations that need to be honoured to achieve it.
 
@thecoshman no it doesn't
 
then if you come up with a better way of handling it, you aren't broken
 
4:3 is perfectly fine
and for movies you want 2.35:1 which is either superwide or just a projector
 
1:01 PM
I am trying to create a quadratic equation solver and I can't find a fault in the actual algorithm, was hoping someone could help me.
https://gist.github.com/rubinkazan/ac9f98efc1a85d31a6a6
 
I'm fine with 16:9 for films.
@rubin.kazan Nobody can help you.
 
@Puppy how come?
 
user406009
@rubin.kazan I think you need more parentheses.
 
user406009
In particular (-b - sqrt(disc))/(2*a)
 
@Lalaland parentheses doesn't solve this unfortunately
 
1:12 PM
ok scheduled a meeting for the screen
the lady selling them has like a shitton, said I can just come there and pick the one I like
I'm planning to take a 75Hz 1280x1024 BenQ
 
owch
that's just gotta hurt
 
why would it
 
you're gonna need like 6 of them
 
no, I want exactly one
 
because just 1280x1024?
 
1:14 PM
it's for the case project i'm making
not for my workstation lol
 
ah right
 
user406009
What exactly is this case project?
 
I have 2x1920x1200 remember
 
user406009
What are you making a case for?
 
a PC
I want to make an all-in-one with desktop components inside
and make it reasonably portable
 
user406009
1:15 PM
That's a stupid idea IMHO
 
user406009
Just buy a laptop.
 
I have 3 laptops already.
Why would I buy another one
it's supposed to be a LAN party machine
 
@Lalaland Solved the problem, it turns out it was a problem with the parentheses, I apologising for defying you earlier! Just added in an extra set of brackets to everything
 
user406009
I am just saying that laptops tend to actually be quite good products for portability.
 
but they're expensive
 
user406009
1:17 PM
And most of the time, you can just turn down the graphics settings.
 
why would I want to do that
 
They tend to sacrifice other things for portability.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes like cooling for example
 
Not so nice if you want only minimal portability.
 
also they take a lot of space on the table
 
1:18 PM
Which I guess is what Bartek wants here.
 
user406009
You can get those really small desktop cases.
 
exactly, I want something I can throw in the car trunk
 
user406009
And just bring the monitor separately.
 
@Lalaland and then I have to care for the screen which is delicate
I want to buy a sheet of 3mm acrylic and put the screen behind it
and seal the joints
 
user406009
Screen's aren't that delicate.
 
user406009
1:19 PM
Just wrap it in a towel.
 
user406009
Or a blanket.
 
Portability you said.
 
we've came from a laptop to a small box + a screen wrapped in a blanket
 
user406009
That's still quite portable. You said you had a car.
 
but it's less convenient than my design
and those small boxes often can't host bigger GPUs
whereas having space for a regular mATX board is the cheapest option to replace or upgrade anything
 
1:21 PM
I'm actually surprised my 970 is quite small.
 
user406009
What sort of GPU isn't good enough for a 1280x1024 screen?
 
I want to put the 9800GT I have in it
I have all of the components really
I just need a case and the screen
the screen will set me back a whopping 22 euro
 
Mine would fit in the miniITX case I have if it weren't for the mountain-sized CPU cooler filling all the space.
 
user1804599
in PHP, 1 min ago, by mus
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user1804599
1:22 PM
in PHP, 1 min ago, by mus
I have problem with this code
 
user1804599
LOL
 
I need to buy a new cooler as well
 
user406009
@elyse I think everyone has problems with that.
 
user1804599
I don't.
 
user1804599
also I remember that guy's avatar
 
1:24 PM
@Lalaland and the other thing I can do is put 4 HDDs in there and 20 USB ports
 
user1804599
isn't that the avatar given to people who use swastikas as avatars?
 
Someone asked for pics the other day
 
user406009
@BartekBanachewicz Sure. 4 HDDs. That's not excessive at all.
 
user406009
You must have quite the collection.
 
user406009
1:26 PM
I'll stick with my 20 GB of hard drive space.
 
@Lalaland it's really about being able to collect various scraps of hardware
I got every part of it for free
buying this screen is the first investment I'm making towards this machine
I want to mostly use it as a server anyway.
the screen will prolly display scoreboards or just a clock
 
user406009
Make sure to check the electricity costs.
 
2kW
 
oh not a permanent server, a party server
 
user406009
A lot of the time, renting a VPS might be even cheaper.
 
user406009
1:28 PM
Oh, NVM then.
 
Then you buy a generator and have camping lan parties!!
 
it's very convenient because you can just put a ready modded game image for everyone to DL
it saves a lot of setup time
 
user406009
@BartekBanachewicz Eh. My friend and I just use a couple of USB 3 flash drives.
 
user406009
Usually quite effective.
 
yeah when you have 2 people then maybe
not when you have 12
 
1:30 PM
ugh
gotta pay trash tax
100 euro
they keep piling up
 
@Lalaland besides often you might want to reshare something, like an updated config file
 
My PC arrived at home
I wish I was there :p
 
@Mr.kbok The proposal to let constructors deduce types is slowly getting complete.
 
@Bartek dropbox!
Hehe
 
right, why would you use gigabit lan if you can use the internet connection :P
 
1:33 PM
@Morwenn how does that work?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes hard to gauge the scale there
 
I think Dropbox has LAN optimization.
 
<clicks> never mind
 
@thcosh 3.5" HDDs
 
@Mr.kbok With tricks and stuff. There is a proposed hack to tell the constructor how it should deduce the parameters.
 
1:34 PM
Another cool thing about C++11 (and later) is that low-level techniques which used to be very error prone (emplacement, alignment, allocations..) are now more accessible thanks to aligned_storage, and most of all, static_assert.
 
@Bartek oh, bittorrent might help too
 
@Mr.kbok Here is the proposal.
 
I wonder what can I do with an LPT port
 
Spread the load so the server doesn't get hammered
2
 
well, that rear fan is basically a cpu fan, you couldn't ask for much better
oh wow, that mobo looks tiny
 
1:35 PM
I don't see a fan there
 
Back of the case.
 
how can you not see the fans o_0
 
Another in the front.
 
soo LPT can provide 2.5mA
is that enough for a LED?
 
Is there a "Data alignment and why you care"-like talk?
 
1:37 PM
@BartekBanachewicz yes
 
alternatively I need voltage operated switch
 
wait, you mean the big parallel port that was used for printers for a ages?
 
Not too happy with the cables, though.
 
IOW transistor
@thecoshman yes
 
Some are too close to the cooler.
 
1:38 PM
@BartekBanachewicz yeah they can power leds no problem, just needs some resistors so you don't melt the port
 
Seriously, there are lots of proposals in the latest mailing. One week won't be enough to treat them all.
 
heh, this mobo even has a serial port
 
Even numerics and gamedev/low latency finally started to propose several things at once.
 
user406009
@Morwenn is there a way to see which proposals come from which working group?
 
@Lalaland IIRC somebody at MeetingCpp did such a tool.
Otherwise, you can still CTRL+F in the proposals list.
 
1:46 PM
maybe each WG should have to start reviewing them selves internally...
they should apply their domain specific knowledge to filter things a bit, reduce overlap etc.
 
fuck
my engine has more leaks than a 10-yo C codebase
 
did anyone here know/ever realize that "mutex" means "mutually exclusive"
 
@AlexM. yes
 
user406009
Shared ptr cycles?
 
I used the word as if it never meant anything/never cared
 
1:52 PM
@thecoshman Good thinking. Numerics and SG14 just overlapped by proposing two different fixed-point proposals.
 
@Lalaland no, oil.
 
user406009
There are like 5 variant proposals ...
 
@Morwenn I actually meant within each WG
before coming forward as a WG with all these silly proposals, they should pre-vet them first.
 
The lounge is too quiet
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ IS THIS BETTER?
 
1:55 PM
Little-endian vs big-endian, GO
 
Well, at least several proposals for the same thing allow to see problems differently. Of course it's often a waste of time, but it may help to find better solutions.
 
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@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ Middle-endian.
 
Ell
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ it don't matter
 
let's talk about keyboards
 
@Morwenn yeah, but the WGs should look at the 10 proposals they have, and see which propose the same solution, which can be combined etc.
@AlexM. Ducky
 
1:58 PM
@thecoshman That's what they do before forwarding the proposals to Core.
 
I like cheap membrane things from Genius
 
Oh, a proposal that says that inheriting from int could be funny. Seriously, this mailing is fun.
 
ok this didn't go anywhere let's try something else
144Hz monitors provide a better gaming experience because they can render 144 frames per second
 
@Morwenn I find it a bit chaotic and hard to read
 
@AlexM. if you can render at that higher fps, sure
 
2:01 PM
@Mr.kbok I have to agree.
 
@Ell Little ending is clearly better
 
Ell
I don't know anythin about it really
@AlexM. trudat
 
Little-endian has the property that the same value can be read from memory at different lengths without using different addresses
 
@thecoshman ...
headphones > speakers?
 
Ell
endian-ness is just an implementation detail for me
 
2:04 PM
> What a stupid generalization. 95% of the skill is transferable, and sometimes Windows is a much better option for development than Linux - C# is the obvious example. i.e. how is Linux a "real tool" if your goal is to be familiar with a professional (arguably best on the market by far) C# or C++ debugging environment (Visual Studio).
lol
 
@AlexM. in public, sure.
 
@Ell "Implementation detail" is how higher management refers to "how the fuck are we actually supposed to implement this" in the project I'm working on. :P
 
> struct polymprhic_lambda
 
ahahahhaa
gz Andrew
Though it's spelled correctly in the above paragraph :P
 
I like the paper.
 
Ell
2:08 PM
@Griwes haha
what are you working on?
if you can say
 
A complete rewrite of a previous project.
"Our last attempt to redo this by rewriting 80% of the code pretty much failed. Let's rewrite 100% of it... with a retarded architecture that makes no sense whatsoever... and in a language no developer in our company knows! That's brilliant!"
 
hey
is anyone here
 
no
there is absolutely nobody in this room
not even you
 
(One of the crucial aspects of the architecture is the well known antipattern of "database as an IPC" except without multiple processes.)
 
2:11 PM
Had not yet noticed the visual similarity between std::future<T> and std::function<T()>. (They are also the output and input of std::async with deferred launch polity.)
 
user1804599
Apparently Nov 12, PHP 7 will be released.
 
user1804599
Exciting!
 
I wonder if I can make a function return different types depending on other type info in C#
I wish I had C++'s TMP now
 
hi all
 
2:15 PM
there is any professional for image processing?
 
no
 
no the professionals only come on thursday
 
no such thing anywhere
they don't exist at all
 
where to meet them?
 
nowhere
 
2:16 PM
hey
 
they don't exist
 
in bed
 
are you not reading
 
what reading?
there is no any room for image processing in stackoverflow?
 
I have something to ask you guys
have you ever got sexually excited by somebodies code?
 
2:18 PM
nope
 
but what if it was really tight code...
 
You have a problem, mate
 
Ell
@Griwes it sounds horrific
 
can i jack it to your code?
 
2:19 PM
Bad troll
 
@thecoshman @BartekBanachewicz mike arrived :)
 
user1804599
 
@elyse wtf
 
user1804599
Exactly.
 
Stabbing yourself in the stab.
Just like leaking memory in a catch block.
 
2:27 PM
13 mins ago, by Alex M.
I wonder if I can make a function return different types depending on other type info in C#
no I can't
fuk
 
fuuck
everything borked
chain too loose
and of course I idiotically scheduled the screen pickup for 5:30 so i have to leave soon
 
...
 
Ahahah, I arrived casually this morning (I left yesterday after preparing all the test configs for my coworkers)
"So, everything went alright?" "Not at all"... Ok, friday screwed
 
@AlexM. not a generic method?
 
2:32 PM
@JohanLarsson think of it like this
 
you've got something like an Either<TLeft, TRight> and a method Cases(Func<TLeft, TLeftResult>, Func<TRight, TRightResult>) the only way I see to make this happen is to actually not pass in functions that return results and force to have side-effects
ideally I wanted to return: Either<TLeftResult, TRightResult> if they were unequal
or TLeftResult if TLeftResult == TRightResult
by not passing in functions that return results I mean passing in stuff with signatures like void(TLeft)
 
@wilx Impressive leg work.
 
user1804599
I want a Lounge<C++> Unbukkakonference.
 
Why does English even exist, if there is no person that fully supports it? — melpomene 34 mins ago
 
2:41 PM
@elyse Where?
 
user1804599
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ Bedroom.
 
You filthyfold
 
user1804599
It's not filthy. It's delicious.
 
What is?
 
user1804599
Bukkake.
 
2:47 PM
@elyse You're obsessed with that
 
Involving lots of dirty bits.
 
user1804599
it's just a funny word :p
 
boukaké
 
bukcake.
 
@Morwenn With white icing?
 
user1804599
2:49 PM
Cake is my favourite noble metal.
 
@Rerito Yeah, it's called two girls one cupcake.
 
yum
 
If there's something lori was very good at was taste in women
I can't find that awesome NSFW album
 

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