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Yup, yup. But not immediately. There is a delay between the cache clear.
what?
Oh that may be why
The flair itself is updated every 36 hours or so, at worst.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Lol, listening to anything paypal has to say. It's not as if the fees are reduced if you link your bank account. They just become less annoying.
15:01
@R.MartinhoFernandes yes
Also holy shit
someone help me
@ThePhD ?
I feel like I've been beat up and then in two fights after that
@Mr.kbok My body is complaining. About everything.
@ThePhD PMS
buy chocolate
15:04
@ThePhD Try some exercise :)
@ThePhD What fees? AFAIK only merchants pay that.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Merchants, or you if you're the one sending to a non-merchant.
IIRC the only benefit of registering is "we'll stop spamming you with e-mails."
And "the site will become less painful to use".
> Sending money to family and friends is free when you use only your PayPal balance or bank account, or a combination of both.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Oh, well that's very nice then.
Still not a worthwhile deal for me.
> investir de manière significative (bien au-delà souvent des obligations légales !) dans la formation des collaborateurs
lol
MORE THAN ONE DAY OF TRAINING PER YEAR!!
15:07
I just found an old article on game development I wrote for a magazine (yeah, back when they were a thing, a local spinoff of PC Gamer)
I think I was 14 at the time, bahah.
that's pretty cool
@Mr.kbok Ce point d'exclamation qui change tout !
@ThePhD You can also pin the fees on the recipient.
Yeah, I had the luck of playing GTA 3 the day I got my computer when I was about 10. Been obsessed with game development ever since. I remember the lady at the bookstore dissuading me from using C++ (was looking for a book) because they use that "in college".
@ElimGarak I have a distinct dislike for people that do that.
"It's just not your age." Motherfucker, please.
15:09
@ThePhD But the problem is that I can't even receive money.
Yeah well to be fair 10 is a bit young to learn C++
@R.MartinhoFernandes ... Wat. Hey won't let you receive either?
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva C'est le "souvent" qui retient mon attention :D
I received money through paypal and I explicitly told them and their bank offers to go fuck themselves.
"Send us your SSN, your birthdate, your bank account information, a Photo ID [and the blood of your firstborn]."
"En temps normal, on alloue un grand budget à la formation des collaborateurs, mais avec la crise, circonstances exceptionnelles... D'ailleurs pas d'augmentation"
15:11
@Mr.kbok Well, the entry level is only going to go down as years go forward. When I was 10, that was 2002. I can only imagine the kids nowadays, well, those with our passion for this stuff and the resources we have today.
@ThePhD Because "Suspicious activity".
@R.MartinhoFernandes That's.... just....
@ThePhD I'm trying to lift a block, not to do whatever.
... Lol. Fuck Paypal.
@Rerito We've been in economical crisis (by employer standards) since 9/11
15:11
@Mr.kbok Best excuse ever :)
Now it's china
China's doing just fine
For some reason, she thought maybe BASIC would be good for me. I remember something being "all the rage", some gamemaker-oriented bullshit called DarkBasic.
Anyone remember that?
@ThePhD I can't even remove the cancelled card from the account.
15:13
@ElimGarak Sure. But how is a bookstore lady going to judge? Even I would suggest a simpler language like ruby to a youngster
@ElimGarak Yes I made games with that. it was pretty decent.
@R.MartinhoFernandes They sometimes do that unless you've added a second one.
@Mr.kbok I wouldn't let my kids near you
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@Mr.kbok I seem to recall it had gotten an upgrade just before I got my PC in 2002.
@Xeo sup
@ElimGarak But DIV Games Studio will always keep that special place in my heart :3
15:14
@Xeo For the Awesome?
Xeo
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No, for Fuck Fixed Length Buffers
(Windows path length, in this case)
Lol.
@ElimGarak This thing had FIBERS.
Way before node.js
People still using char s[MAX_PATH];
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Fucking shitty shit god dammit this is so annoying.
15:15
@Xeo I know, right? ahahah
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This is currently kinda killing our mac upload
It's hilarious when it happens to someone else.
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because the mac .app also has horribly long paths inside it
doesn't linux too have a path length limit
hey bby u know what else is horribly long inside you
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva My small intestinal tract?
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva 4096 for everything, IIRC?
15:16
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva The intestines?
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FUCK
I don't wanna deal with this anymore
@Mr.kbok Why did ya give up on gamedev? :D
yes you guys are scientifically accurate
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This is in additon to the mac build being a complete bitch and not wanting to run properly on any other mac than the one it was built on
9m of intestines is p long
15:18
@ThePhD I don't want to add a second one. I want to remove this one because it's been cancelled for ages. They want last month's statement from it to lift the block, but it doesn't exist because the card has been cancelled for ages. So I wanted to just remove it.
Xeo
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Time to go home and enjoy a 4-day weekend with friends
@Xeo UE4, right? That thing probably has to leverage both OpenGL 4.1 and OpenCL 1.2 to get even close to the DirectX 11 feature set.
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@ElimGarak It's not the performance or anything
fucking app doesn't even start without a cryptic "failed to find descriptor file" error
@R.MartinhoFernandes E_TOO_SIMPLE
@ElimGarak I never really did, I only do it in my spare time, and I don't have much. I'm going to continue that jam game with my girlfriend (co-designer, lol), and I'm working on a NES game, too
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15:18
fuck this so hard
How's stuff selling on the Mac anyway? I suppose it is worth the effort?
First they wanted my photo ID with my address on it.
Which is not a thing because it's silly to have an address on your ID.
I agree that it's super dumb
Here's where I lived 8 years ago hth
stop using paypal
@Mr.kbok Mine just doesn't have it, so I couldn't fulfill that requirement.
15:20
Anyone remembers that incident when the guy asked someone to photoshop sperm on the photo? ahahah
risky click of the day
did you?
@ElimGarak yeah good old 4chan days
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva Soon.
> *469518 socket() failed (24: Too many open files) while connecting to upstream, client: 127.0.0.1,
FFS
This is not my day/
Fuck this.
Fuck that.
Maybe you should go cut yourself on a random object. The Twitter account has gotten pretty stale.
15:22
Fuck this in particular.
I have a feeling you're reposting from yourself.
~etienne()
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva Actually, no, I need it. I don't have another way of paying at hknowstore.com and that's a life or death thing.
15:26
Really? ._.
OF COURSE IT IS
I meant the "no nother way" part, I don't doubt the life or death one.
winforms is painfully ugly
Haha, qsort is great:
15:27
@Mr.kbok why do you use it?
> Despite the name, neither C nor POSIX standards require this function to be implemented using quicksort or make any complexity or stability guarantees.
winforms was dead since long when I started with programming
@Morwenn Just like kill doesn't actually, you know, kill
@R.MartinhoFernandes all those cubes are... not actually cubes
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva Seriously, some part of the C standard are really underspecified.
@Morwenn It's q sort, not quick sort
@R.MartinhoFernandes Why hasn't the ship arrived yet? Off course it is!
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva Either that or a credit card. I cancelled it and am not getting a new one.
@JohanLarsson Because as a C++ programmer, I like all things that are painful and/or ugly.
Is qsort guaranteed to be quick?
15:30
@Mr.kbok It is isn't for quicksort, I don't know what the q stands for.
Actually, no, not even that.
@fredoverflow It's guaranteed to sort, which isn't that bad compared to the guarantees of rand.
They always use PayPal.
@Morwenn Who would expect rand to sort?
@fredoverflow As much as I would expect it to return a random number?
15:31
@Morwenn pick: quasi sort, queer sort, quirk sort, quiche sort, quack sort
This shows up when I click "How to pay without a PayPal account"
15:32
thats odd, often times the paypal gateway lets you just input card info without signing in
@ʞɔᴉN Not if your card/account details/whatever are in an existing PayPal account already, though.
pff is that news
15:35
@Morwenn yes!
soon they'll be like "numerous gentoo users shaving their RMS beards"
or "a gentoo user shocked after his operating system actually allowed him to do work"
or "how to prepare food supplies for gentoo install and not break your home budget"
Or "snob cannot ignore any gentoo news"
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@Morwenn How do you create a random number without some source of physical entropy?
can't hear you over my shiny OSX experience
15:36
@fredoverflow Touché.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Deep cut, apply stitches to the wounded area.
Guys, I am pretty ghetto today.
Ell
Ell
15:41
@ElimGarak lol
too easy but starred anyway
@ElimGarak perfect
sqlite
so, networking
how is reconnection handled in say games
same as in other systems that require connection recovery, with sequence numbers
@JohanLarsson Oh, I just realized I didn't answer your question. I'm writing a plugin for a C# 2.0 app (yes it's very old!) and I want to add a few config controls.
@Mr.kbok you answered it twice :)
15:44
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva At least it had generics, right?
@JohanLarsson Well, the first wasn't a real answer
modal proxy dialogs
gotta click them
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva no but do I like create something wrapping a "socket"
sometimes 10 at a time...
15:45
let's call it "connection"
so that when it drops I can still send stuff
and it will buffer it or something
@fredoverflow I forget when features were introduced
and for example I can specify a timeout for disconnect and the like
I wonder how I'd approach creating such abstraction
That's essentially TCP over TCP
BarTeCkP
TCP only works when a socket is already connected
Hence why I say "tcp over tcp"
15:47
well it can send keepalives but that's about that
I want something to handle that as an abstraction
+ automatic latency measurement
You have to do it yourself
I wonder if there are any libraries for that
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> USD 198.00
err
WHY
>BSD
Unknown. Should work. Please report if not.
lmao
@Xeo Low demand.
15:50
how can i find all hackage packages depending on a particular package?
@Xeo I.e., probably not actually mass-produced.
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@R.MartinhoFernandes Sure, but there's gotta be a limit with how ridiculous prices can be for a piece of plastic...
@Xeo It's the reverse of bulk pricing.
user1804599
hi
15:53
@Xeo Check out the costs of getting 3D printed puzzles here: shapeways.com/search?q=twisty. You essentially pay only for the material.
Ell
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the error was a temporary disconnection
screw you tcp!
@Xeo This is a good example: individually 3D printed Curvy Copter, 238 euros shapeways.com/product/5ZDM6GVV5/…. Mass produced Curvy Copter, 16 euros amazon.de/dp/B006GCHMXE
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@BartekBanachewicz it was probably just snackchat, in reality
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15:57
TCP does handle retransmission
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@R.MartinhoFernandes Crazy
Well, it's not just material; tray space costs too. But the important thing is that those are very close to production prices.
so yeah, no high level socketing libraries
a few i found are all terrible
@BartekBanachewicz What language? Leshak?
there are no other languages on the planet
15:59
looks at English

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