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22:01
> Furthermore, we’ll be reading from a raw C++ object. C++ objects often contain vtables, including this one! Reading a vtable is a very important first step towards defeating ASLR.
I never realized this before
Project Zero is awesome in any respect: googleprojectzero.blogspot.nl/2015/07/…
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@sehe I made another logo!
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@Borgleader lolwut
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lulkut
@rightfold It's for BluePrint?
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22:04
:v
@rightfold 3/10
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:'(
@rightfold CyanOverflow?
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Mill.
You tell me why that logo makes sense then. It's bars.
Mill puts you behind bars
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22:06
It's colourful.
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And simple.
Yes?
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@rightfold could you recognise it without colours?
That's an important thing about logo design
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Sure.
I think you can
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22:07
Though I guess not for programming languages :3
@rightfold does the black bar signifies the point where you drop the project? :P
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Yes!
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@thecoshman I still have no OS so no factorio sorry
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It passes the name resolution phase of the compiler!
22:08
@milleniumbug that's racist!
It's racist because it assume LTR script
@sehe With RTL chances of rightfold finishing his project are getting lower, duh
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her
still racist
> It is now two decades since it was pointed out that program testing may convincingly demonstrate the presence of bugs, but can never demonstrate their absence. After quoting this well-publicized remark devoutly, the software engineer returns to the order of the day and continues to refine his testing strategies, just like the alchemist of yore, who continued to refine his chrysocosmic purifications.
-- E. W. Dijkstra
@rightfold ^
dunno what chrysocosmic means
maybe drug related
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22:16
You can try to prove your program is correct and get a bug-free program after ten decades.
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Or you can write tests instead and actually ship it with an acceptable amount of bugs.
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I wonder what data structure I should use to represent buildings on my game map
@Ell std::forward_list :P
Or std::unordered_set
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@Ell relational database.
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22:18
2d vector, boost multidimensional, map<coord,building>
Boost.MultiIndex for everything
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Or just regular list and std::find
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Boost.MultiIndex is a delight.
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Also SQLite.
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SQLite is underused.
22:19
but is it acid
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yes
oh, nice. Already better than MySQL :P
@R.MartinhoFernandes why wasn't I invited to this unconference?
@nick Because you haven't invited yourself?
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It offers concurrent access, indexing and querying in many different ways.
22:20
i am clearly the most knowledgeable person in the room
is that how it works?
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Which makes it a very good fit for many applications.
@Ell use good old-fashioned C-style arrays
they've never failed me
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I will use multi index probably
@nick note that's dolan saying this
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I will not use an databaee
Lol. Databae
22:23
databae, distant relative of Park Young-Bae /cc @buttifulbuttefly
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Database is a silly idea
@milleniumbug great minds think alike
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When databaes like "INSERT yourself INTO me"
i tried to come up with a clever response and failed
@Ell what a slut
@sehe You need more Community in your life ;)
ಠ_ಠ
Oh my god
I just realized
Jesse Eisenburg acts like an alternate version of Scott Meyers
22:51
@R.MartinhoFernandes
directly linking to 4chan eh
should I avoid doing that?
if you want people to still respect you
I kid
I also use 4chan
@Prismatic come on man
you should know by now that 4chan images 404
@Prismatic Not if you don't care about your hotlinks suddenly changing
22:55
big fan of /h/ and /hc/ since I find video porn a bit... useless (?)
@Rapptz Don't most boards have an archive now
my imagination works best
@Prismatic only lasts 3 days
then it 404s.
I was going to post this
it works with links too
22:57
I was gonna say 'who cares its a chat, how is going to last anyway'... then I remembered the transcript
that upload uses imgur regardless so it should be the same thing
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/b
/fit
Soooo
nobody wants to mumble, eh?
@jagged @Nooble, @ScottW and me are there
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/gif is good if you like porn or gore
/g is good
man... I dont want to wrap all these glUniform__ calls :[
23:00
@VermillionAzure what do you fellers discuss in mumble?
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Just do it when you need iy
@nick JUST COME ONE, COME ALL
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I've only done two so far because that's all I need so far
@nick Weird shit, come on here
Join the mumble and be cool with us! - Host: loungecpp.sehe.nl -
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23:01
Its not a pain when it means you get to see stuff on screen
on voice chats i tend to burp quite frequently
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Hey @ScottW
@VermillionAzure Fuck you, fucking reposter
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@nick that ain't cool man
i know
it's one of those disability things i guess
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23:02
Oh involuntarily
@nabijaczleweli uh huhhhh.
yep can't stop it
@rightfold do you actually use it (link required)
don't make fun of me or i'll tell ur mum
@sehe come on polar bear
23:02
@nick I'll tell her while I'm here
we want to hear your pretty pretty voice!
@sehe y u not on mumble you skrub
i'll probably be on a bit later, router keeps overheating right now
Okay, I want a unique_ptr that must be returned to my queue, Is there some kind of pointer that throws an error if the dctor is called and its holding a resources, like std::thread and join()?
@nick Put ICE on it
23:04
@nick Oh my god
the memories
lol
@Mikhail make a generic destructor I think
Can't you guys do something like...
@VermillionAzure really? i thought i was the only one with this problem
@nick It used to be
i have a desk fan over my router in the summer
23:04
@Mikhail Can't you create a generic lambda
it seems to have broken though
to call the classes destructor?
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Man I'm in bed again
Yoi guys should mumble earlier
@Ell I'm on mumble pretty much 24/7 ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
i talk real dirty in bed
don't tell my mum pls, she'll give me a right walloping
23:08
@nick ( ͡~ ͜ʖ ͡°)
Ell
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This is weird man
(◕‿◕)
@Ell It's less weird in mumble.
I bet.
I'm not in it right now.
downloading mumble right now, 30mb
router will overheat before it's done
23:12
@nick Put ICE on it
your obscure networking protocol jokes do not amuse me
@nick ICE is a microsoft proprietary protocol for compiler diagnostics
what
oh I thought it was related to ICE/TURN
ICE = Internal Compiler Error
I killed VS by dragging a wpf control onto the window
ah it resurrected
@jaggedSpire epic fail
@Mysticial It's horrible, isn't it?
@jaggedSpire lol
@Mysticial MUMBLE WITH USSSS
How to discredit yourself as a programmer in 3 simple steps
because 6-digit numbers take more than 4 bytes, definitely.
That looks like one.
23:34
When an overwhelming majority of technical minded people disagrees with your perception of the world, the prudent emotional response would seem to be astonished not at them, but at yourself. — Kerrek SB 21 mins ago
Why aren't you arguing that since it takes 200MB to perform one numeral in interpretive dance on YouTube, and an int should therefore occupy 2GB? — Kerrek SB 20 mins ago
ahahaha
@sehe He's in fine form.
> I'm really sad about stack Overflow. 8 downvotes? That seems rude
@nabijaczleweli It's because the tone of the title implies that he's the only one who actually gets computers in the entire site, I think.
ints are NTBS in OP's head
"but computer math is really done in hexadecimal" - srsly — sehe just now
23:37
> On other Stack Exchange communities like Unix SE, MathSE, SuperUser and AskUbuntu people at least have brains
> (...) or just leave useless, rude comments, like the one Kerrek SB left down here.
jesus fucking christ that idiot
Cat did another effort post there. I didn't, which made me 6s earlier
How much wrong can you fit in one shitty snackpost
It's a fucking goldmine
BUT MAH BOOK!
23:39
Haven't seen snackpost that bad since that C# string post 2 days ago
> That's what every book claims but still I can store a number like 322512 in there.
@CatPlusPlus missed it :(
Every base is base 10
Oh I guess it was more than 2 days
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Q: "Invisible" ASCII values at the end of my decrypted strings

rudyv8My code was not correctly preserving the length of the string and as result I was getting 0 bytes as default values. I am using DES Decryption to decrypt connection strings to my database. When it decrypts it spits out the string in byte character array sequences with lengths of 8. So for exam...

@ScottW Surprisingly I downvoted Barry's answer. More often than not I upvote his because they're good.
23:41
@EzequielBarbosa This is a really basic computer terminology. Why don't you google and find docs about it, instead of relying on answers of strangers whose knowledge might be doubtful — EZI 14 mins ago
:ironicat:
@VermillionAzure What? Universal references in templates?
@ScottW thats your worst? you havent seen enough of them then :P
@jaggedSpire The syntactical sugar has broken down...
From snackoverflow gold C++ badge user comes an answer that gets everything about basic computing wrong
r e p u t a t i o n
@CatPlusPlus lol dat answer
> Yeah no NTS is not very common at high level and C# does not use NTS because that'd be dumb. You can "try this to examine it yourself" before posting nonsense.
burn
@VermillionAzure surely the aggravation is due the laser pointer being useless when watching the recorded presentation
> so thiiiis becomes "int&" // no irony
23:55
@sehe no, it's that && is not always an rvalue
Well. That's kinda old. Why don't you complain that move doesn't move... etc. We'll wait
TROLOLOL Scott wanted to say "A completely independent verbibol" - slip of the tongue? I think not

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