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10:00 PM
I'm bored.
 
It's just lock_guard
 
@AndyProwl Which is NOT WHAT GETS OWNED BY THE LOCK GUARD.
seriously.
 
This is not a fun argument.
 
I said that a thousand times.
 
user1804599
@Rapptz lol a fun argument
 
10:00 PM
(transactional memory)
 
the resource owned by the lock guard is the attempt to lock the mutex.
 
@AndyProwl what @Puppy is saying is that it doesn't own the mutex, it just owns the holding of it right now
 
user1804599
(fun x -> x)(42)
 
user1804599
There I passed a fun argument.
 
@Puppy Yes, and I disagree. Shouting it won't make your point any more convincing
 
10:00 PM
you just restated your previous argument.
which is super annoying.
so I felt the need to shout it.
 
> An object of type lock_guard controls the ownership of a lockable object within a scope. A lock_guard object maintains ownership of a lockable object throughout the lock_guard object’s lifetime (3.8). The behavior of a program is undefined if the lockable object referenced by pm does not exist for the entire lifetime of the lock_guard object. The supplied Mutex type shall meet the BasicLockable requirements (30.2.5.2).
30.4.2.1/1
 
^ Thank you
 
pls stop
 
(inb4 "ownership there means something different")
 
you quote the Standard as if the Standard guys are somehow better than everybody else
which is clearly not true.
 
10:01 PM
they make the rules.
Not you.
@райтфолд It's fun sometimes.
 
lol, it's true
 
user1804599
I want to ride my bicycle.
 
You can't argue the terminology of the language with the language's specification
 
@райтфолд What's stopping you?
 
@райтфолд I want to ride my biiike
 
10:03 PM
It's late there.
 
user1804599
@Nooble I have to take a shower and sleep.
 
user1804599
It's 23:03.
 
shit tomorrow's Friday
don't know why I thought today was Friday
 
@райтфолд Ahh.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Really? Guess all those wording defects simply don't exist then.
 
10:04 PM
There's always tomorrow :)
 
must be that nobody, ever, filed a defect about poor or just plain incorrect or contradictory wording in the Standard.
 
@AndyProwl I want to ride it where I like
 
@MooingDuck Wow did we raid this? lmao
 
@Jefffrey ♫
 
Xeo
10:12 PM
@AndyProwl My feeling of time has been off the whole week.
 
I've been laying on my bed all day today.
I feel awful.
 
Xeo
I thought it was Tuesday on Monday, Wednesday on Tuesday, Friday on Wednesday and Friday today. I think I need some vacation.
 
lol
Just tried to close a dailymotion tab while it was playing a video fullscreen. Flash Player crashed and gave me an error something like "Pure virtual function called."
 
Pic or it didn't happen
 
@Jefffrey Too late.
That would have been a good idea though.
 
10:17 PM
@Jefffrey You sick?
 
@Nooble I just didn't feel like going to the library
 
You could always do something fun at home.
 
user1804599
Which library?
 
user1804599
libpcap?
 
Like video games, board games, etc.
 
10:19 PM
The only kind of library that you don't personally build
@Nooble It's 23PM, the only fun thing I can do now is sleep or watch something.
 
16 mins ago, by Nooble
There's always tomorrow :)
Well this sucks. I'm now conscious of my own breathing, and I can't stop thinking about it. Now I'll be manually breathing forever.
 
evening lounge
 
Good evening!
 
@Nooble Where "forever" translates to "until I die, go to sleep, or just get distracted."
 
@Nooble now you have to think about blinking, too, because I said it
 
10:28 PM
@orlp That doesn't quite work.
 
user3010322
ALL MY FUCKING TEARS
 
user3010322
I thought this lady I was tutoring in Java was a Computer Science major.
 
user3010322
NOPE, she's a Math Major.
 
user3010322
Fucking RIP great potential.
 
Tutoring where?
 
10:31 PM
@ThePhD :(
 
well, if she's a maths major then she shouldn't be too dumb, at least you are not tutoring an art major in which the case she might not have the logic to handle programming at all
 
@ThePhD You are not into math majors? :)
<sup>PS. I am joking and I know what you meant by that....I think.</sup>
Well.
FML.
 
user3010322
I don't think you can do superscript and subscript without unicode tricks in markdown
 
user3010322
@Jefffrey School.
 
@JerryCoffin I accidentally scrolled up and saw your message and now I remember it again.
 
10:35 PM
@ThePhD ..?
 
user3010322
@wilx I just want to see not-dumb people in CS.
2
 
What?
Dude are you retarded?
 
@ThePhD Are CS major girls dumb? Like more than...who?
 
user3010322
@Rapptz She's a hard math major, Rapptz. She's not going to pursue an actual degree in Computer Science or do Software Development. This is "just one dumb requirement to get on [her] way".
 
I don't get your point.
RIP great potential?
What the hell?
 
user3010322
10:37 PM
Yeah, RIP a potential person that could have been a software developer.
 
I don't understand
she's a CS major
 
I still don't get it.
 
A math major may not take CS that seriously.
 
user3010322
She is not a CS major.
 
but isn't pursuing an actual degree in CS?
 
10:37 PM
She's a math major.
 
why would a math major want anything to do with CS?
 
@ThePhD An employer wouldn't care if she ever decided to go down that path.
 
that's like blaming the kettle for not brewing coffee
 
user3010322
@Rapptz I hope she does, but currently all this class is doing is irritating her.
 
user3010322
So I'm sad.
 
user3010322
10:38 PM
That's all I meant.
 
RIP. I will.
 
@orlp Hence RIP great potential.
 
...
 
ok I read the rest of the story now
 
user3010322
Why is this hard to understand. ;~;
 
10:39 PM
To quote Hamlet, act III scene iii line 92:
 
user3010322
I mean, she's not going to be BAD at Math.
 
@ThePhD if you believe that anyone in your CS faculty is decent in software dev, you'd probably be wrong except a small handful
 
user3010322
She's going to be amazing.
 
user3010322
But I was like
 
10:40 PM
man
what the fuck
 
if she's amazing then what's the problem?
 
λ bootstrap.py --use-libcxx=0
usage: bootstrap.py [options...]
bootstrap.py: error: argument --use-libcxx: ignored explicit argument '0'
 
user3010322
"Oh man, someone in my generation is going to be an awesome computer scientist and I know them and they're not from the internet."
 
What is this
argparse sucks
Why can't a bool option accept 0 or 1?
 
@ThePhD lol like it matters what degree you'll get
 
@Rapptz does it use the --use-libcxx vs --no-use-libcxx pattern maybe?
 
@Rapptz Because that's a dumb syntax?
 
you're dumb syntax
@orlp This is my thing
I'm using environment variables.
 
No, it's argparse's thing.
 
user3010322
@CatPlusPlus I dunno, if you accept 0, then maybe you could accept 2 or 3 or 100 as true, and 0 as false, and why not also accept yes, and no, and why not oui, and non... etc. etc...
 
10:42 PM
Well the dumb error is
but the script is mine
 
Also Click is better than argparse
 
@CatPlusPlus Clit is even better.
 
Also. I really should go to bed.
 
docopt sucks
 
10:43 PM
lol
store_true causes the error
but using action='store', type=bool is a-ok.
whatever
I don't like it still
 
@CatPlusPlus why
 
I'm sticking with argparse
Though maybe I'll see if optparse has retard behaviour
 
If the camera adds 20 pounds, do African children even exist?
 
@orlp I needed a ton of support code to generate and reformat all of those stupid documentation bits just to keep everything consistent and not painful to use
Happily torn out and replaced with Click
 
@orlp ?
 
10:47 PM
I don't believe in Africa
 
@FelixDombek Good news: I found the time to simplify it further. It's now essentially a oneliner requiring only the standard library. Live On Colirusehe 9 secs ago
 
user3010322
@Nooble For the ones that are starving / dying, if the camera adds weight, it means they're skinnier than they are, then they're probably actually dead.
 
Oh look flagging idiots are here
 
user3010322
I'm so glad I never got rep. I can't see any flags. \o/
 
I missed it
@orlp Cameras only add 20 pounds in the Northern hemisphere
 
10:52 PM
@ThePhD I don't get it. Nevermind.
 
@sehe Is that why we block immigrants? Because their children would vanish of pointed at with a camera?
 
...
 
I need a concurrent queue (multiple producers, single consumer). Is boost::lockfree::queue what I should reach for?
 
If the camera adds 20 pounds to what?
 
or are there any alternatives?
 
10:53 PM
@CatPlusPlus I didn't see the flag
 
@AndyProwl Sounds like a good match
 
All right, thanks
 
Oh NVM I get it.
 
I just read all that bullshit about ThePhD's maths major comment.
 
@AndyProwl However lock-free vs blocking is a tough call. Is not actually much related to the numbers of contenders. It's only related to the balance you need. If you need maximum throughput/low latency, use lockfree, by all means. If you need efficiency (thinking about the energy bill too) you might want blocking unless you can prove that the synchronization is a bottleneck,
 
10:54 PM
How stupid are you guys, seriously?
 
It varies.
 
@AndyProwl Hybrids exist (e.g. the disruptor library has a gradual back-off in case of idling IIRC)
 
He was simply bemoaning the fact that a talented individual shall not be joining our industry, and that our industry therefore loses out when compared to the hypothetical alternative possibility. Therefore, RIP. Great loss.
It's not bloody complicated.
But hey let me guess you all assumed he was being sexist
 
Seriously? 8.45e+03
Jokingly, 42
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit No, I assumed he was being a moron.
 
10:56 PM
What a natural response to a perfectly innocuous statement
 
@sehe I'm not sure actually. I just know I need a thread-safe queue, multiple threads post commands into this queue, a single consumer extracts them and invokes them, repeatedly.
 
Speaking of dumb people in CS, one of my underlings managed to shut down our dev, build, VCS server an hour after traditional EOB (and long after support had gone home), leaving it stuck in single-user mode locked in the server room.
 
I don't know how frequently these commands will be posted yet.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit But hey, let me guess, this is you trying to encourage some more constructive discussion on the subject, right? God forbid you miss out on the fun
 
I didn't even know he had the effing root password. Apparently he confused the server terminal window with a VM terminal, and, um, picked the same PW for his VM as the dev server has? I don't get it.
 
10:58 PM
@AndyProwl In that case, I wager that lockfree is overkill
 
Anyway that put an end to my productivity until the morning
 
@Rapptz oh, well, that's a bit different
@Rapptz only in that I can see how you might misconstrue that
 
@sehe I just didn't want to reinvent the wheel, surely there must be a library that offers a (blocking) thread-safe queue? Quick search did not bring up anything else than lockfree::queue from Boost
 

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