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12:00
I had to commute for 4 hours on 3/5 days of the week for the last two months
I could sleep during that so it wasn't that bad, but still it's tiring
4h, that's a lot
anyway our office in Gdańsk opens after the break so no more of that
gonna walk to work from now on... until I move to my own flat anyway
12:02
yeah, we've nearly finished our bathroom
wanna see? :D
sure
feel free to call on skype (i'm nekkid though)
meh I can post it here
we can talk later if you want tho
oh sure then do post
show the world where you're gonna poo
@BartekBanachewicz No - leave your own apps on.
12:04
Looks brand new
well it is brand new
The crew is still making some adjustments (hence "nearly" finished)
I'm just popping there time to time to take photos and see if everything's ok
See, my perspicacity knows no limit
I'm just pooping there
btw you forgot to install a toilet by the look of it
12:06
Actually haven't yet.
@LightnessRacesinOrbit it's separate
it's outside isn't it
we've decided not to demolish the inner wall
@LightnessRacesinOrbit sigh
See not everyone owns huge houses :S
hey - you'll get no arguments from me! you have a mixer tap after all
wait does that mean it really is outside
12:07
Well technically we do, because the flat is mine and my GF has a house
@LightnessRacesinOrbit it's next to the main bathroom.
@LightnessRacesinOrbit it's an automatic one (with a thermostat)
like, behind the exterior wall?
@BartekBanachewicz woah
how does that work
@LightnessRacesinOrbit one dial controls the amount of water, and one the temperature
how much surface do you have btw?
@ParkYoung-Bae the flat is about 48msq IIRC, maybe a bit more
Xeo
Xeo
12:11
hm, @R.MartinhoFernandes I might be a bit late, depending on how fast I can get to the station :/
but the kitchen and bathroom are tiny, so the rooms appear pretty big by contrast
@orlp I know that URL by heart
@ParkYoung-Bae and it's has 3 rooms (dunno how those counts work for you, so it's kitchen, bathroom(x2), and 3 rooms).
Just for me and Natalia it's going to be more than enough
Nice :)
That's quite big
inb4 dick joke
@BartekBanachewicz not bad
ahaha
12:15
@LightnessRacesinOrbit and this shower thing also has the "rainfall" thing at the top
rain showers are great
you can turn the power dial in both directions and get the water either from the handheld or the top thing
I feel like I'm missing a bit of proper terminology here :D
a bit awkward with a woman tho
you get water in your eyes constantly
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I thought you aren't the one looking up.
not so great for all that lesbian sex
@BartekBanachewicz doesnt matter it saturates your entire head
12:17
that's kinda the point
oh also we got electrically heated floor
so when you step out of the shower the tiles are warm
and it dries up quicker
Why is it so difficult for linkers to issue error messages like 'In 'mainunit.cpp', can't find MyFunc()' ?
Not shower heads again!
@MartinJames uh oh
@Xeo Paranoia works just fine when some players are late.
Actually, it works better
evil grin
Xeo
Xeo
:(
12:26
@BartekBanachewicz hypocaust yeah same
though i still havent figured out the timer for that thing
wut wut
@Abyx I like how he bothers to tell us which language he's prattling on about
@LightnessRacesinOrbit and what language can it be, other than C#? Nemerle?
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12:31
his is the main reason why LINQ is banned from the Roslyn project because of these subtle delegate issues. It is kind of ironic that the inventors of LINQ do not want to use their own invention in their C# compiler backend for performance reasons.
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Rain showers seem impractical to me
How do you get a proper wash
@Ell define "proper wash"
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Cracks n crevaces
Xeo
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes k, on mah way. should arrive just 5 minutes late or so
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Also hi @BartekBanachewicz
12:36
@Ell I try not to shove my hand up my arse
@Ell FYI this thing also has regular shower head
Xeo
Xeo
or maybe 10, since I wanna grab a bottle of water at the nearest supermarket
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Not only do I try, I succeed
@Ell hi Ell :)
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@BartekBanachewicz ohhh fair enough :)
12:36
@Abyx In other words, their optimizer is shit.
@LightnessRacesinOrbit things people do with ease, you have to try to make them happen :'(
I hate fiddling with the heads to put them on proper height and whatnot
this thing always works.
@BartekBanachewicz it wasn't banned per se... non-explicit allocation was banned
and linq allocates
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I hate showers without proper temperature thing
Where its either hellfire or earth froze over
I wonder how well the thermostatic one will work
12:40
found in test: "Now Enter 'xxx' as user name. Enter '..' as password and submit 'Log in' button."
we have English problems -.-
@Puppy well it looks more like .NET flaw that lambdas create new Delegate objects
@Abyx JS has similar problem
because there are no compile-time "templates" in .NET, only run-time "generics"
@Abyx Which their optimizer should be able to eliminate.
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12:42
I thought .net was supposed to have proper generics unlike java
@Abyx it's more an issue that stackless coroutines have to live somewhere
I don't see how that's related to coroutines - ands.All(x => x(item))
the issue it that C# should somehow inline x => x(item) into All
theoretically JIT-compiler can do that, but it doesn't.
The C# compiler itself could do that.
12:46
@Abyx go read the CLR standard
there is a lot the standard refuses to let front end compilers do
The delegate types don't need to exist in the assembly, so it doesn't have to preserve any semantics related to them.
Hi .. I am using Log4c to generate logs. But I am unable to turn off the logs by using priority="OFF". But level of log changes, such us when I use priority="INFO", only info logs are getting generated, when I use priority="DEBUG" then INFO as well as DEBUG logs are getting generated.
@MGetz the CLR standard has no say on the syntax of the language nor the semantics the language manages to implement on top of it.
@sandeep sad story, bro
But when I use priority="OFF", logs are getting generated but it should not generated
12:47
@sandeep there is this wonderful site you should ask your question on... called stackoverflow.com
@Abyx
None of those problematic objects is mandated by the CLR
They're purely an artifact of the C# compiler.
@R.MartinhoFernandes nope.
No idea what yoy are replying to.
But it's wrong in response to anything I just said.
that All thing is a compiled library function, C# has nothing to with it
12:49
It's perfectly inlinable.
how? C# compiler should read IL of All and then inline that lambda?
but I'm not sure that IL of All is even available to the compiler
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C# doesn't read IL
of course it doesn't
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Does it?
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Q: implement binary tree in c++

tokenaizerI want to create binary tree (not binary search tree!!!) in c++. this is the code for adding a data into a tree: void btree::insert(int key , node *n){ if(root == NULL){ root = new node(); root->key_value = key; root->left = NULL; root->right = NULL; return; } if(n == ...

Ouuuuuuch
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12:56
lol new
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fail d'epique
@rightføld We never translate it in french ^^
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@Rerito Linking to the website of an euthanasia clinic in a comment is too tempting.
@rightføld The indentation is so random it's like ... drunken coding or something
That just gave me an awful idea
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13:03
Why do you write C code and tag it as C++?
@sandeep Good, now just wait for an answerer to come on his unicorn and spread rainbow over the place
user1804599
Why do you use log4c and tag it log4cpp?
user1804599
Are you a moron?
@rightføld should be "why do you use C"
@rightføld because c++ has backward compatibility of C and I was expecting people who are using C++ will also have C knowledge.
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13:06
@sandeep lol no
@sandeep HAHAHAHAHAHAHA top kek
user1804599
So you actually use C?
@sandeep Never use tags to drain potential answerers. It's not their purpose. Always tag your questions accurately ...
@Rerito understood
It's common sense. Otherwise you get flamed (and you deserve it)
13:08
@sandeep also, be wary of linking questions here... many will downvote without regards to content just because of the annoyance
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Also, if you tag a C question as C++ you will probably get C++ answers.
@rightføld or people retaging the question as C and grouching about how it was mis-tagged
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Q: Why is jamoscript taken as equivalent to javascript?

sootsnootI inherited a website, and just came across this curiosity: <a href="/delete" onClick="jamoscript:return confirm('Do you really want to do that?');">Delete all</a> I can display the page containing it and click the link to get the confirmation dialog box exactly the same as I do when I change...

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looool
@sandeep except it really doesn't
13:13
@sandeep if C++ had true backwards compatibility with C I could compile massive C libraries as c++... I dare you to compile glib as c++ without making source code changes.... I'll wait.
if you define C as C89, then you certainly can.
glibc is not C89.
ffs, Vlad answered the same question as me. Deleted mine, and now praying noone downvotes him. Otherwise, chances are he'll take it out on me :(
@Puppy had that argument recently with a C developer, glib is designed to work with c90
line 16
I think what they mean is c89 + posix 1.0
13:19
@rightføld the question is generic to C and C++. What I have pasted is a sample code that works in C++ code too. I have no problem with code. My problem is with turning logs off. If it can be done in C++ then it can also be done at C. I just need to find how it is done.
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Not all C++ code is valid C code. One could answer with the most cryptic C++ template code and you'll be confused to death.
I've always found that checking a 'loggingOn' boolean at the top of the logger calls to be reasonably effective.
@rightføld If someone does this, it would make my day :D
@sandeep If it can be done in C++ then it can also be done at C lol nope
Wots wrong with 'if(!loggingOn) return;' ??
13:26
@sandeep please do not tag spam
hey all, I have a technical css problem I can't seem to figure out. would you mind taking a look? stackoverflow.com/questions/27620851/…
it is considered bad practice and will just piss people off, unless your code deals with direct interop issues with C or C++ do not tag with both
@kenhimself NOOOOOPE
WTF CSS?
why if I type in "C++" in the jsfiddle @Mgetz ?
Try a more suitable room, eg 'Motor Repairs and Maintenance'.
13:29
@kenhimself please have your downvotes for dumping your question here
Oh - that's a good idea!
@Abyx careful what you downvote... that's an answer he linked to, not a question
@Mgetz I know
exactly....
alrighty, later guys.
done for the year... hopefully
13:41
OK, so the Cascading Shit Storm has been avoided. Good, 'cos last night's curry is still inside me somewhere.
@thecoshman I say one hour more
Susan Ivanova on The Mentalist this week
@Abyx Do not do that.
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Do not tell people what they should do. Thank you.
@Abyx Hypocrite much?
13:50
@LightnessRacesinOrbit proof?
4 mins ago, by Abyx
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Do not tell people what they should do. Thank you.
You just told me what to do.
meh
Vote on the post, not on the person. This has been repeatedly stated as a site policy.
Thank you.
I agree with Lightness Races in Orbit !!
Downvoting a question or an answer just because it was dumped here is absurd
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13:51
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I don't give a damn.
@Abyx I know you don't. That's what makes you such a toxic contributor.
Well, that, plus all the radiation from Chernobyl :)
"I downvote you because I don't like you and/or what you are doing" is childish and damaging. Please don't do that. If the answer or the question that was linked here sucks, then go ahead, by all means. But where a question is posted has nothing to do with its quality.
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Perhaps SO profiles should have a "I think you suck" button so people could let out their emotions on something else than questions and answers.
@AndyProwl Agreed, but I think there is a correlation between how it is posted in the chat room and its very quality
Like <link> plz help shebang
@Rerito Maybe. But the motivation should be the fact that the question sucks, not that it was posted here.
@AndyProwl Agreed again, I'm just stating that this is the help vampire spirit that drains such downvotes and in most cases ... The questions written with such spirit are poor (actually, in every case I met, but I admit there can be good questions "poorly" linked on the chat room :) )
13:57
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A: Porting from Code::Blocks to Visual Studio 2010

Chris DrewIf the project was written using portable C++98 code you shouldn't have too much trouble. First, I would check you can compile in GCC with -std=c++98 -pedantic flags and fix any warnings. What libraries are you using if any? And are those libraries portable? Also, is there any reason to not use...

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DOWNVOTING ASAP
Isn't that the rule ?
@Mgetz Are you ... well ... talking about the pic or the answer ?
@Rerito the answer
Could have been both
@Rerito It does not seem to me the particular answer that was linked was so badly crafted, nor the question.
I understand nothing about CSS and HTML, but the question seems decently formulated and well-formatted to me. The answer also seems to the point.
14:01
@LightnessRacesinOrbit VS2013 supports ranged for just fine, it has minor corner case issues with initializer lists
@Mgetz "Minor corner case issues with initialiser lists" like not supporting initialiser lists?
or is that VS2012 I'm thinking of
@LightnessRacesinOrbit 2012
I've used them quite a bit
improved it
I still haven't made it explicit that specifically VS2013 does in fact happen to support 1.5 of those two things, but that's deliberate
I want to emphasise the point of compatibility
but I'm not strictly lying any more :)
14:14
@Banderi: If you have a specific problem with a specific piece of code with a specific compiler, construct a minimal testcase that demonstrates the issue and ask a specific question about it. — Lightness Races in Orbit just now
Hope this is specific enough
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I'm just really really terrible
I don't know what "index on master: ..." means :'(
I've never been this excited (warning, sexy man pants)
14:37
lolwat
That's what happens when you do drugs
14:53
@Ell index are the currently staged changes on top of master, the thing you would get if you would commit now
@thecoshman what CS does to people
15:12
@thecoshman The first comment ... Top kek
15:25
class Test
{
// data members
public:
Test()
{ }
};
int main()
{
Test t;
return 0;
}
i know that local variables, objects are stored on stack. They are allocated memory on stack upon entry block & destroyed automatically when function's execution finishes. my question is in above code that when memory will be allocated to object T. is it compile time allocation or runtime? Please help me.
@meet Hi, this is not a Q&A chat. Please read this before posting questions:
18 hours ago, by Jerry Coffin
Beginners: Please read The Rules.
I'd suggest asking on StackOverflow
@Rerito Haha, glad my ugly mug and ugly answer gives you lolz
@ChrisDrew The dude on the pic looks so high !
Not in that case
@meet There is no such thing as compile-time allocation :)
and there is no object T in your code
15:36
Anyway you take it with a smile, that's nice @ChrisDrew :)
t is allocated just as you described
no need for an SO question here; asking here was fine
I am back
@Puppy Is it meant to sound like Terminator ?
Robot is a Terminator, not puppy.
I'm the Caninator
15:46
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A: How compiler manages runtime stack?

xtoflThe Compiler takes the decision to have the runtime allocate on the stack.

wut o.o
Compile time allocation ?!
@LightnessRacesinOrbit "white are not" - but some black people are a problem
@LightnessRacesinOrbit What about hating them because they support West Ham?
@MartinJames Don't hate ham, eat it
Time to get in the subway back home ...
16:01
Our Subway in the town closed:( I have to get sandwiches from Tesco or the garages.
@Abyx Yes, those who are racist
colleagues starting to trickle away for xmas. boss doesn't bother saying great work or thank you
so I am doing it
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I know that. I mistakenly wrote compiler in my comment above because I forgot the name processor. — user31782 1 hour ago
Anyone knows why std::bind returns no type at all?
/*unspecified*/ bind( F&& f, Args&&... args) ?
"unspecified" does not mean that no type is there
simply, its name is not specified
The function template bind returns an object that binds a callable object passed as an argument to additional arguments.
(20.9.9.1)
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/27336779/unique-ptr-and-forward-declaration
anyone willing/able to answer this?
16:16
@ChrisDrew No - we only answer CSS questions, (aparrently:).
I'm using the MSVC++ compiler of Visual Studio 2013. – abcheudg234
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@Darklighter when I checkout master, and do git status, it says there are no changes staged :(
@Ell then index == master
Just so you guys know: sourceforge.net/projects/mfflac
It's a Media Foundation Flac codec thingie
I have been looking for this kind of thing for like... ages.
Merry early Christmas!
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@Darklighter I wonder why its showing it as a different commit and merge then
16:22
@ChrisDrew The comments give pretty much the full story. I'm going to simply say that MSVC does not correctly check whether it actually needs to prepare an exception handler that destructs the member. In fact, the last time this question came up, I'm not sure if the Standard required that it did.
@Puppy I think both gcc and MSVC require you to have the constructor in the cpp file, the question is why
clearly, the answer is because they always prepare the destructor in case of EH, even if the constructor body is noexcept.
@Ell the 3rd wip on master just looks like a merge commit
I actually wonder if Wide handles the equivalent situation correctly
@Puppy OK, as long as that is clear
16:25
which I think it does not.
actually, I'm not sure if it's even possible to create that situation in Wide.
16:39
@ChrisDrew done
@LightnessRacesinOrbit lol I spent about 5 minutes trying to find that related Q&A. Apparently "Sebastian Redl C++ constructor throw" was not enough for Google
A: Can't do this test over VPN
B: So give it your WAN IP and set up port forwarding.
A: Didn't work
B: What's your WAN IP please? [so I can connect to it myself and check that the port is open]
A: 172.x.y.z
B: No that's your VPN IP. What's your WAN IP please?
A: 192.168.0.2
I want to die
You should start with basic questions like: "Is your computer turned on ?"
@LightnessRacesinOrbit You're asking the wrong questions duh!
entertain me
16:45
just tell them to go to whatsmyip.com
@rubenvb But then I wouldn't be able to demonstrate to everyone including him that he has no idea what basic concepts are
Just reading off a webpage is easy but nobody learns anything that way!
Rule #1 of support: People lie. Rule #2: People suck.
Also this demonstrates that by "didn't work" he really meant "I didn't do it"
@LightnessRacesinOrbit So are you trying to teach him something or fix his VPN? I'm confused. After you little teachingthing he still won't be able to fix his VPN next time...
@rubenvb I'm trying to help him to run a test that involves a device in the office connecting to a server on his laptop at his house. He claimed he couldn't run it but in reality he just needs to (a) learn what IP address are, and (b) set up port forwarding
It has nothing to do with "fixing his VPN"
Jez
Jez
16:48
@LightnessRacesinOrbit who's the woman in your avatar?
@Jez Me
the hat isn't real though
meanwhile, boss is nowhere to be seen
this morning in scrum he actually said out loud that he'd "do a bit of laptop clean up. because i like to do that at the end of the year. and that's it!!"
meanwhile we're all on a mad dash to get this alpha tested before we go
Jez
Jez
i have to work tomorrow sigh
Hey @Lightness, has that donate button on your profile been profitable? Just curious :-)
@rubenvb Yeah it has :) Got a new car last week
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Fuck that. No, seriously. The Internet isn't that gullible.
Or is it?
tam tam taaaaaam
16:51
@Jez That would be "Clara Oswald" (fictional name in Doctor Who)
@ereOn Spoilsport
DOCTOR WHO IS NOT FICTIONAL
Your avatar reminds me how annoying that actress is.
Jez
Jez
@ereOn cute though
16:52
Nobody wants a know-it-all companion for the Doctor.
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@LightnessRacesinOrbit But white people, straight people, cis people and men are problems!
Nor childish stories and no background story. Give us some quality stories back !
Clara is great
Now shut up or I'll slap you so hard you'll regenerate

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