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10:00
lol
shame his question is mislabelled as the problem has nothing to do with loops, but never mind
18 hours ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
@CatPlusPlus Right. Did I mention I'm at the brink of insanity?
@R.MartinhoFernandes are you? Hop over, it's great up here.
Later we are drinking chesse
@LightnessRacesinOrbit where is the test case though?
@AlexM. In the question, doofus
> My professor asks that we use the while function in c++ for a code we are writing. I keep returning the same error, so I wrote a simple simple code to understand the while loop. Still stuck at this part
> so I wrote a simple simple code to understand the while loop
10:07
OOOH
> so I wrote a simple simple code
so his whole program is a test case
> simple simple code
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Lightbulbs.
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10:07
All the lightbulbs.
I was looking for test cases inside his program
lol
Lightbutts
I get it now
Call it a minimal example if you like
I prefer "testcase" because I come from Freenode
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Thought you might enjoy this plink.
10:11
@R.MartinhoFernandes Relevant:
@R.MartinhoFernandes ooooh thanks :D
meh it looked much better on a tiny screen
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Q: I'm getting really, really tired of filtering through the garbage... any tips?

Alexis KingI've been trying to answer questions as best as I can. I admit, I want the rep, but I always try to make my answers as high-quality as possible. I'm here to try and help people who deserve help, not gain imaginary internet points. That said, I've mostly found questions to answer through one stra...

40 upvotes in 3 hours.
Did you like my contribution?
Yummm.
Pickles wrapped in salami. <3
without anything else?
@R.MartinhoFernandes Well its true.
10:21
Well and baguette with butter.
Dammit. I've reached that point where I've run out of emails to read and webcomics to catch up on and Facebook posts to read and SO questions to downvote and my coffee is finished.. so I can't really justify "doing nothing" any more. That "waking up" portion of the morning is over and, now, any minute I spend not actually doing useful things is me being lazy. Shit.
@PolymorphicPotato that does sound tasty :D
I was thinking you were eating just pickles and salami
while I don't think they go bad together (salami + pickles are an ingredient in most of the sandwiches I eat), I'd probably feel like vomiting if there was no bread or cheese cream of any sort in there too
10:27
@LightnessRacesinOrbit it's ok, he added comments
//Some code should be here.. But i don't know what to do there to display
lol
/me fucks Tomalak
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@Xeo ^ HE'S GETTING MORE SICK!
I saw that!
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Can't you drag him to the doctor?
/me saws robot's legs
Xeo
Xeo
Yes you are
Go visit a doc already
Don't make me go to Berlin just to drag you to one.
damnit I missed that message
You're not my mother! :s
10:31
@R.MartinhoFernandes go to the damn doctors!!!
@AlexM. he said he was in love with Jefffrey.
@R.MartinhoFernandes If the same thing is coming from your mother and other people, then maybe they are both right?
do we have to get all storkery on you and find your mums phone number?
Become your own mother.
10:32
Ffs. Why do you tell you this shit.
I remember someone saying that robot's the sequel of his parents
does that mean an adopted kid is a spinoff of his adoptive parents?
I am worried about female students that @FredOverflow might be teaching, he's so dirty minded. Not sure it's safe for him to be in charge of a bunch of 18 yo girls </troll troll troll>
I think it would make sense
Xeo
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yeah, why don't you tell a doctor about it, instead of us.
@VáclavZeman it's not about being right, it's about his mum having authority
@R.MartinhoFernandes I don't tell myself anything
10:34
nooo
I ran out of pickles.
@thecoshman At his age? I do not think there is much of real authority left in such relationship. I think it is much more a courtesy from the child to the parent.
@PolymorphicPotato pickled what?
Just, pickles.
@VáclavZeman You've never met him have you :P
Gherkins.
Augurken.
10:35
@PolymorphicPotato ooooh
Xeo
Xeo
We should contact Robot's workplace, and tell them that one of their employees has some serious health issues and they should send him to a doctor.
TIL pickles are not a species.
They are just processed cucumbers. :v
you do know pickling is an actual process
@Xeo But we want him to go to a doctor not insane asylum
and you can also pickle other things
@AlexM. Yes, but I thought it was unrelated to pickles.
@thecoshman Nope.
pickled tomatoes are very popular in Romania
as well as pickled peppers
I've seen pickled watermelon but never tried any
Eww, watermelon.
@AlexM. o_0 never heard of toms being pickled
watermelon is tasty
10:37
How about pickled bacon?
@thecoshman here
you usually pickle them while they're still green
@AlexM. oooh, yeah, underripe...
Xeo
Xeo
@CatPlusPlus He'll probably be treated either way
@PolymorphicPotato you realise part of pickling is waiting, who wants to wait for bacon?
@CatPlusPlus maybe that's the better place for him.
A vegetarian.
Or a person that is not hungry.
10:39
:'/ these jeans are riding a bit tight
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Ugh.
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Fontconfig
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fontconfig
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plz
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PLS
10:39
Huh, I was expecting an email titled "Stack Overflow — You're killing it" to be a diatribe from an angry user or a mod. But no - free swagger for belated 100k! Yay!
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plzzz.
You know I always wonder.
Somebody had this idea of pickling food one day.
"It's the year 2500. Humans have populated the entire known galaxy, while establishing friendly relationships with multiple alien species. ThePhD is still trying to get fontconfig to work."
10:40
@PolymorphicPotato I ask myself the same thing about boiled eggs
@PolymorphicPotato maybe someone dropped something into some vinegar, never bothered taking it out, noticed it didn't rot for ages
> Give us your country. E.g. USA, India, United Kingdom, Iceland. If you don't know this, ask a neighbor.
what
preserving food has been done for some time
Well if you don't have neighbors, its also simple
10:41
> Shirts are made and printed in the USA, thus sized S-XXL.
LOL
And I guess S is the other countries L?
¬_¬ so apparently someone has never heard of Publisher
afaik Romans used layers of olive oil on top of their beverages to keep them preserved
fucking one slide A4 powerpoint presentation
10:42
I wear L.
@thecoshman Good. Publisher is shit.
@PolymorphicPotato is it still a thing?
I wear the tightest clothes I have and they are M.
At least that's the size of the other three SO t-shirts I have.
10:43
@R.MartinhoFernandes US L or EU L?
I wear XL
and I feel best in XXL
@thecosh SO L
but this applies only to t-shirts
(the XXL thing)
@R.MartinhoFernandes which is US L... so mahoosive
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10:43
Why is checking in binaries bad for a repo again?
Because they're large and unwieldy
actually a tshirt large enough to double as shorts is the best thing one can wear
@ThePhD that itself is not.
maybe I should have ticked S
it's more that you shouldn't check in stuff that doesn't need to be
10:44
If it's something that doesn't benefit from versioning, it shouldn't be versioned
ie, don't check in the compiled version of your code
I do have a couple of binary deps in version control just out of pure practicality. But I thought long and hard before doing so.
some things aren't feasible or desirable to rebuild with your source every fucking time you check out
@LightnessRacesinOrbit just sat there for a week or so thinking it through?
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10:45
Well, I'm about to sacrifice 20 virgins to make fontconfig build with MinGW with strict C mode
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If it works, I'd like to never have to do it ever again if I change machines.
hahaha
You'll have to do it again when you're hit by a bug that needs an update
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;~;
Stop vendoring libraries
10:45
There are better things to do with virgins than sacrificing them.
Use goats for sacrificing.
Use goats for testing portals.
Invest this time in a cross-compiling VM
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I really don't want to touch the world of Virtual Machines and cross-compiling...
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Really, reeeaallly don't wanna do it...
you do have some patience though
10:46
@R.MartinhoFernandes virgin goats obviously
if I were in your shoes I'd just not use fontconfig
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I already completed the route of not using fontconfig
@ThePhD STOP BEING BAD!
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It's not that robust.
I'd just use precompiled fucking binaries but that's apparently too hard
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10:47
Or fun.
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@CatPlusPlus It is!
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I'd have to have 2 separate freetype dlls, one being the latest I'm compiling against, the other being the one that makes fontconfig's bolted-on Freetype dependency work
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(Why does a fontconfig library, who's front page explicitly says it does not do rendering, depend on freetype?)
For measurements
10:48
@ThePhD What is Fontconfig for? Finding fonts? Do you need Pango or something similar to actually use the font then?
> Fontconfig can be used in concert with the X Render Extension and FreeType to implement high quality, anti-aliased and subpixel rendered text on a display.
from the front page
> This poll is Non Anonymous.
@AlexM. if I were in your shoes I'd take off your shoes because they stink.
fuck that
Fontconfig does font selection, FreeType does font parsing
10:50
@PolymorphicPotato they don't
OK. I was not that lazy and I found some description.
I take special care about that
don't spread rumors like that
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Q: Why Preprocessor 's role is diminishing in C++?

meetIn his book "C++ From The Ground Up" Herbert Schildt wrote that "However, the role of the preprocessor in C++ is much smaller than it is in C. One reason for this is that many of the chores that are performed by the preprocessor in C are performed by language elements in C++. Stroustrup has state...

lol dat question
@ThePhD The solution is to not build FT either :ssh:
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._.
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10:52
The real solution is that these should all be buildable in some manner.
Xeo
Xeo
lol
They are
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unistd.h ... fuckin' my day up.
@thecoshman What?
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Either way, if cygwin and MinGW can build this
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10:55
then I can use those to make magic happen
@R.MartinhoFernandes <pats head>
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And hopefully the C API will Just Workâ„¢ with VC++.
No, really, what difference does having met me make?
@ThePhD Errr....
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@VáclavZeman Listen.
10:56
@ThePhD You probably do not want to mix Cygwin with non-Cygwin anything.
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Listen, okay.
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C has a stable ABI.
No. I don't want to listen. Fu.
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As long as that works.
@R.MartinhoFernandes vOv what was I on about?
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10:56
@PolymorphicPotato Well then Navi wouldn't like you.
Xeo
Xeo
Who likes Navi anyways
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH
@CatPlusPlus Are the times on nomic's forum UTC?
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Now when built with cygwin it requires the cygwin1.dll GEEE GEEEEEEEEEEe.
10:58
1 min ago, by Václav Zeman
@ThePhD You probably do not want to mix Cygwin with non-Cygwin anything.
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q___q my tears fill the rivers.
Not-listening is a skill.
You need to build with -mno-cygwin
@Xeo ... say what?
And make sure the build system is set to MinGW platform not Cygwin
@Jefffrey Fuck knows! They're CEST for me
10:58
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Q: If any open set is a countable union of balls, does it imply separability?

Fedor PetrovIf a metric space is separable, then any open set is a countable union of balls. Is the converse statement true?

Union of balls sounds horrid
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How do I run the .sh on Windows without cygwin, though?
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Or maybe the flag will just work...
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Blech.
MY PRINTER IS SO FUCKING ANNOYING
Sounds normal.
11:01
A surprising cute question. Perhaps it's more than just cute. — WÅ‚odzimierz HolsztyÅ„ski 16 hours ago
vOv they work fine for me
well, it's still anoying
I need to buy a decent laser one someday
I wanted to print two-sided to save paper, but everything fucked up and now I've used more paper than I would if I'd just print every page one-sided
gg
11:03
@CatPlusPlus I did that, didn't regret it. only like 100 IIRC
and took nearly a year to use up the toner it came with
@CatPlusPlus moral: don't try to save the trees
Did I mention that I can't have more than one page in the tray or it will pull in multiple pages at once and fuck everything up?
@PolymorphicPotato nothing like an overreaction
@CatPlusPlus lol! what a shit stain
Classic printer.
Cue me filling this thing wrong and needing to print it again
11:06
I had to print so few documents in my life that it's way easier to just tell someone else to do it for me
I'll have to print this year's contract for college but I'll probably delegate that to a colleague
@R.MartinhoFernandes :D
I don't know what it is with printers and problems, but I never have issues with my printer
Its not hard to use
get a grip - noobs
@TonyTheLion Me neither, since I have no printer.
@TonyTheLion more just a PITA
Press print - done
not PITA
11:10
@TonyTheLion ugh, PITA
And the anxiety.
Devices are shit, drivers are shit
are university colleagues classmates too?
I always thought classmate is a term used in elementary and high school
@TonyTheLion well sure, if you keep yourself tethered to such a thing
but linkedin seems to think colleagues means exclusively work colleagues
and classmate means any colleague in a school
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I can't figure out how to make this build without mingw...
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11:12
There's no documented no-cygwin flag that I can find in the makefile or the INSTALL or the readme...
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GTK+ doesn't list it either.
Ugh a form that wants a citizen ID that has date of birth RIGHT THERE IN IT and date of birth separately too
People are idiots
Yeah, they are.
that's not stupid
15 mins ago, by Cat Plus Plus
You need to build with -mno-cygwin
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11:13
@CatPlusPlus Is that to configure or make ?
the moment your ID scheme changes you lost your date of birth
GCC you dummy
don't rely on things that happen to be encoded in other things
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Uh.
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But...
11:14
My mother once went to a hospital with my brother born after 2000. His ID starts with 0122..., so February of 2001. The nurse was like, "but there is no month 22!".
that's like saying if my ID were LIGHTN12345, then I should not be asked for the first six letters of my name
my ID starts with 1930309
(The general idea is that for 2000+, you just add 20 to the month to differentiate from Feb 1901, for example.)
@Griwes I wonder how many brothers are born after 2000 multiple times
09.03.93
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11:15
Lightngale Flutters across Skies?
@Griwes Our car registrations are similar at the moment
(First two digits are the year, next two digits are the month for the non-polish people.)
@LightnessRacesinOrbit 2000 x 0 ?
¬_¬ I hate when people think they deserve constant attention
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Doesn't matter
You can infer the DOB out of the current IDs
11:16
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Fuck English.
If you want to be future-proof and store it separately be my guest
(It won't change)
01 = Feb 2001
51 = Aug 2001
02 = Feb 2002
52 = Aug 2002
10 = Feb 2010
60 = Aug 2010
11 = Feb 2011
61 = Aug 2011
it really confuses some people
but that's because they are stupid
I'm confluzed.
chat is fucking up and silently dropping my message again
oh no it was just lag
With that schema you'll soon run out of unique numbers to identify months.
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11:18
._.
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This is dumb.
@Griwes What is it for the Polish people?
@CatPlusPlus I encode serial numbers into IDs, which is fine because I came up with the scheme
Still feels wrong for non-unique data, somehow
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Fucking ambiguities in the English language.
So
Semantically aware code versioning
11:19
There's non-duplication of data, sure, but there's also semantics
@Griwes IDGI
I feel that doing text based merges compares to semantic ones like ftp compares to version control
@LightnessRacesinOrbit That was an information for the non-polish people, since the polish people know that already.
@chmod711telkitty I don't think I have ever taught 18 year old students, they must be at least 20 years old or something.
Just have A = January, B = February, etc... and have two digits for the year. Problem solved.
Like the italian tax code.
...92E24... 92 = 1992, E = May, 24 = Day
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fontconfig also depends on iconv...?
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11:22
Since wheeen.
@rubenvb My bug report has already been accepted as valid :)
> Thank you, I have fix it. Best regards, A. Karpov
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Blerghaghagha.
(presumably not the famous chess player)
@ThePhD So, do you think you will be finished with fonts this year or...? :-D
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You eat a dick.
11:25
DNS FAILURE ALERT ALERT
I hate when that happens
ugh the only way to share data between apps on W8 and WP is to have the user click on UI shit to trigger it
and by "it" I mean another UI-driven share shit
it seems it's the only mobile platform doing this
android has sharedprefs and ios has the shared keychain
Ell
Ell
@bartek but what about non semantic code changes?
@Ell separate them
meh we actually worked today
and I missed SK's game for the most part
Thank god the best matches gonna be on the weekend
@AlexM. Sounds awesome.
11:39
fuck these people, seriously
@R.MartinhoFernandes I don't get why
lol news
okey
SHR vs SK
that's gonna be sad :(
@LightnessRacesinOrbit They probably just laughed at the guy dropping his brand new phone.
ah oh inSec on LeeSin
what a tryhard.
11:43
@LightnessRacesinOrbit lol he's trembling like crazy
Xeo
Xeo
No matter what happens, I will continue saving the Queen. #indyref
Oh I like that one.
SAVE "QUEEN", 8
I'm wondering if the buffering gif (like the one when you upload pics here or that on youtube) is a visual representation of a circular buffer
No
It's just compact version of indeterminate progress bar
does it not look like it could double as a circular buffer? with the brightest circle always overwriting the least bright circles (i.e. old data)
here (darkest circle in this case) topproduct.nl/image/ajax-loading.gif
11:54
Why care? (Also nope)
I dunno I noticed it now and it seemed like a legit similarity
Circular buffer!
there's nothing that looks like overwriting old data there though

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