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23:00
still playing them when working from time to time
@BartlomiejLewandowski Have you googled "pure virtual function call" and then checked for the most common causes of the problem in your code?
@ScottW you are pathetic dog
but 19-year old girl? NICE
it's so hot in here (AC is broken) all I want to do is drink water from the freezer
my teeth complain :(
but I can't stop drinking it
@milleniumbug right, makes sense
thanks!
found a mixtape
more exactly this one youtube.com/watch?v=f6QTMSVqvu8
23:04
@milleniumbug so as I understand, I cannot call any virtual functions in a destructor?
even of objects that I know have not been deleted yet?
I'd rather not listen to soulja boy yeah
the instrumentals sound good yup
@BartlomiejLewandowski ...meh. You can, but if you're familiar with Java-like semantics of virtual function calls in constructors, you will be confused.
we all are
I'm bored.
@BartlomiejLewandowski Also, the explanations are too long to be given in the chat. You should consult your C++ book. (don't have one? consult this question)
23:09
are there any arguments between big C++ guys
like, does Scott Meyers have anyone he argues with about C++
he argues with his thoughts.
I'm wondering if things like counter-books exist
i.e. author X writes a book as a negative response to another's book
@AlexM. It's are to argue against correct facts. Which is usually what Scott's books contain.
23:11
which Intermediate should I buy?
@Borgleader I guess that's true
@Borgleader Not really.
> Mineorama, the Minecraft convention scheduled to take place in mid-July that was canceled at the last minute—and with more than $500,000 spent on advance tickets—insisted that it was "not a scam," and that another event would be scheduled to take its place. But many ticket buyers worried that they had indeed been conned, and it's starting to look very much like that's exactly what has happened.
haha I'm sure they'll get their money back
Creationists still argue against evolution, conspiracy theorists still exist, etc.
People still think vaccines are harmful
yeah but I'd guess a programmer should sort of be able to tell when something is correct or not
like, provably correct
23:13
@Rapptz and they're idiots =/
they always state false claims like "studies have shown X" they either dont or have been disproved
@AlexM. A profession doesn't really change stupid people.
Like, believe it or not, in my biology classes I had creationists who didn't believe in evolution but chose to learn it anyway for their degree and profession.
also relevant
I also worked with a super religious person.
Ell
Ell
I don't associate with close minded people
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I try to have a mind as open as is possible
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23:16
I guess it's ironic though :L
Hence the star :P
I just ignore religious people when they try to argue with me
or I agree with anything they say
My head hurts
after watching this
"If science proves some belief of Buddhism wrong, then Buddhism will have to change." -Dalai Lama (Source)
@Jefffrey oh lord.
I think trying to sway anyone who's not young away from religious beliefs is not worth the effort
worst case: you fail to convince them
best case: you convince them but take whatever gave their lives a purpose away from them
23:20
@AlexM. Religion is not bad per-se =/
it's the kids we should focus on, and stop forcing religion in education
@Rapptz Vaccines are indeed harmful. So are fire-tenders, ambulances and cop-cars. They all cause deaths every year.
well if you didn't tell the assistant about your allergy before she gave you the shot
the vaccine is definitely harmful to you :P
@AlexM. Many vaccines cause at least some minimal harm--soreness at the injection site, a few days of headaches, pain, etc. That may be pretty minor compared to (say) Smallpox, but it is harm nonetheless.
@AlexM. The forms I have to fill in before medical treatment drive me mad. 'Are you allergic to anything, yes/no'. No space to put in 'not as I know so far'.
23:25
@JerryCoffin talking about more serious cases
@MartinJames The leading cause of death is life.
there are also cases where vaccines may conflict with treatments the patient may be taking at the moment
and have to be avoided
allergy to substances used in medicine is no trivial thing :(
I remember being checked for penicillin allergy
by having some penicillin mix injected under my arm's skin
@MartinJames that always annoys me. And it shocks me that doctors don't hear that more often - they always seem perplexed when I say "not as far as I know".
man was that painful
@anthropomorphic Yeah - lawyers.
23:28
I wonder if we survive enough what our solution to extinction would be
leaving the planet to colonize other planets
an artificial sun
an artificial planet
@AlexM. our solution to our own extinction?
technically the sun won't last forever
it will go out
I've had penicillin, nuts, shellfish but something I might eat tomorrow may kill me.
Ell
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@borgleader religion is wrong inherently imho
But my definition of religion assumes a deity
Idk if that is correct or not
@MartinJames exactly. Apparently most people don't think that way.
23:29
the sun is a middle aged star. 2 more billion years and the sun will become a red giant.
@cyberspace009 but what about the children?
bye bye children
@Code-Apprentice "Life is a sexually transmitted disease with a 100% fatality rate."
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That's what you get for being a programmer. A more rigorous way of thinking that leaves other people perplexed.
@cyberspace009 lol
23:31
@cyberspace009 The sun is run by Ruby on Rails, so it's more like 5 billion years.
@Ell like.. this room?
@Ell Accept me as your personal savior (and send me a virgin or two) and I promise your life will be happier.
Ell
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@stacked I'm mobile, which message is that to?
it's my message to you :D
@ScottW Illest Alive is my favorite so far
sounds awesome
Ell
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23:34
@jerry sounds good! But I might struggle sending the virgins over :S they have a habbit of escaping my grasp
@stack our lounge, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name
By kingdom come, who ...
I can't remember the rest :L
@Ell it suffices :)
Ell
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Protect us from bad memory accesses, and those who acces our memory
Ahh. Who will be done
@JerryCoffin So all I have to do is give you the location of two loungers?
@Ell I think it's "'Til kingdom come, thy will be done" - that makes slightly more sense
Though I still can't quite parse "'Til kingdom come"
Is the kingdom coming to us? Or is the time of the kingdom coming? Bible stuff is baffling to me.
@anthropomorphic Read the Quran if you want baffling..
23:42
@anthropomorphic in the bible it's said jesus will create a new kingdom of god on earth after the apocalypse
or something like that
or maybe god will do it
it's very confusing because someone really abused polymorphism in the bible
I think that religious documentation should be open source.
you've got jesus
then you've got god
and the holy spirit which doesn't really do much
but it's there
And all the stuff we can't agree on should just be "undefined behavior".
or maybe it does things
in events such as people learning languages in a second to make the will of god come true
it's the holy spirit descending on them or sth
@AlexM. JavaScript, PHP and SQL. No mass religion can explain them.
23:44
can't remember, it's been 14 years since I read these things
Ell
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@anthropomorphic ahh yes that's the ticket
my grandparents are quite religious
unfortunately my parents are the worst kind of people in that regard
in reality they don't give a shit about religion until they're forced to
Oh, and compiler extensions must be banned in all government funded projects.
but still preach crap
@AlexM. was religion forced upon you?
23:46
they are the wurst people
@cyberspace009 hmm
Ok, so I've informed myself a little and I came to the conclusion that feminism (at least how I understand it, which is how it is portrait by both attackers and people that claim to be feminist) is stupid and I just don't care enough. Yet.
I think you could say that to some extent
I was convinced to read the bible as a kid, I had this bible that was written for kids
and I was raised in a religious environment
but for some reason I always kinda went my way
I don't regret anything that's happened and I enjoyed the literature
really the old testament is like a collection of fairy tales
even if it's the base of a bunch of lunatics who'd kill for their god
there are some good things you could extract from there
I wonder what percentage of programmers are religious. Especially those who engage in test driven development. I wonder if all that practice at purging assumptions about your code translates into less assumptions about everything else.
23:51
depends on the environment they're in
it's not like religious people think they're assuming things either
for them "god exists" is as good as writing assert(true)
@AlexM. #define true false
anyway, regarding the environment, it's a bit more complicated
my view on religion ended up backfiring
I can't really integrate with my family in this regard
for example
so if you attended events where this would be required, you'd see me lying
and pretending
not sure family is worth abandoning for something so puerile as my or others' belief in gods
There was a study on a parrish of priests who did data entry. Their accuracy was through the roof.
@ScottW I'll check it out in a bit
right now I've been looping illest alive for a while
what do you even call that instrumental bit after the chorus
it's so awesome
@Borgleader I've pointed this out before, but my definition of "virgin" isn't so much about virginity as it is about young, hot and (most importantly) female.

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