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8:00 PM
the random system for ship unlocks makes me feel like I randomly won't get to play 80% of the game
 
you ever seen what happens when you leave a muffin out for too long?
 
I think you can also unlock the next ship by getting all achievements for the current one
at least in advanced edition
 
yum chocolate covered raisins
 
but if you look up where to find the special encounters, most of them can be unlocked fairly easy by going for the encounters
 
yeah, it's just that the first ship has the really annoying achievements and the second ship is the boring drone ship :P
 
8:02 PM
true
the one you get for beating the boss is badass though :D
 
I didn't get a ship for beating the boss
 
the stealth ship is sweet too, but I can't remember how to unlock it
hmmmm
sure? :D
 
hm, it didn't tell me I had
 
well, it's possible that they changed it with advanced edition. I thought not though
you killed all three stages of the boss?
 
yep
got the credits n everything
 
8:04 PM
hmm
 
I'd double check, but no saves...
 
well, I believe you if you say so :D
 
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Q: Some explanation on "The Stack and Functions" [c++]

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> that's smooooove move!!
> Have a smoove day.
 
Xeo
Well damn, of course my package is gonna be delivered tomorrow while I'm at work. Can't they deliver in the morning or evening? :(
 
wat
 
8:09 PM
ack, I hate those ion storm fights
 
Xeo
oh dang, past 10 already
I should get to my vocabs
 
@Griwes: And followed by return 0. It's like, "how can I take a valid program and produce an identical program that's five times larger in size?". Perhaps the OP is the inventor of XML? — Kerrek SB 27 mins ago
:D
 
magnetic whiteboards are so cheap O_o
I was expecting for them to be much more expensive, no idea why
 
hmmm
two halberd beams?
I guess the problem with that is that if I had two halberds, I'd have hardly any power or slots for anything to take down the shields.
but OTOH if I could just teleport my crew to the room with the enemy shield generator in it...
this should adequately solve the problem of enemy shields.
 
8:24 PM
heh.
welp I just died trying that tactic.
oh well
at least in FTL dying is just a thing that happens instead of the ruination of everything, ever.
 
user1804599
@AlexM. Because you are bad at expectations.
 
@EtiennedeMartel I love this game :)
 
8:39 PM
yep definitely no ship for defeating end boss.
 
Xeo
Hm. Dinosaur: Kyouryuu. Salary: Kyuuryou.
 
lol
 
@tvlada All your circumstantial evidence doesn't make up for the lack of code. — sehe 6 secs ago
 
hmm
should I permit unqualified operator calls, like operator+(a, b)?
 
@rightfold not really, 'cause karma is not something desirable. Indeed, buddhism is about not desiring anything
 
8:52 PM
seems like it's not terribly useful.
 
@Puppy define unqualified.
 
@rubenvb A call which is not explicitly relative to any object or scope.
 
@Puppy but surely a and b have types, and the call happens in some scope?
 
yes.
but there's no reason to write operator+(a, b) over a + b.
 
ah. I guess not.
but someone else will know better.
 
8:56 PM
c.o.n.s.i.s.t.e.n.c.y.
 
so far I need to permit them in explicit accesses so that you can export them.
 
> So, for the first round, they did do exactly what Josh's team asked - the offshore group provided 75% unit test coverage across all classes...and 0 assertions.
teehee
 
so...
 
Reminds me of some unit tests I deleted 2 years back that a (then) colleague had some how taken a week (or two) to write. They tested a mock implementation /only/
That was hurtful because it was for all services in a new component.
 
Xeo
@Puppy What about passing + somewhere?
 
9:00 PM
what, like, std.sort(begin, end, operator+)?
 
Xeo
(have sections!)
yeah
 
that is a compelling argument.
the logical solution to this is to convert operators to identifiers, I feel.
 
Ell
@sehe What on earth is the expected result with a mock implementation? :P
assert(nothing happens)
 
bah
I managed to get rid of my only despicable use of Null Ojbect anti-pattern
 
Xeo
(+) -> (x, y) => x + y
(+ 5) -> (x) => x + 5
(5 +) -> (x) => 5 + x
do it!
 
9:02 PM
that would be super annoying to parse.
 
Xeo
then allow at least the first, that shouldn't be too hard, no?
 
er, probably not.
but I'm going to start with operator+ anyway because C++ compatibility
I figure that shortening operator+ to (+) is a feature I can safely class as low priority.
 
@Ell that's a stub. A mock "mocks" behaviour. So, you check that the mock returns the expected values (that you just prepared in that same unit test). Don't ask me. My colleague was "happy" I explained him that was very dumb oops a waste of time and money oops not very useful
 
also, (+ 5) is barely shorter than x => x + 5
I figure if you're gonna offer syntactic sugar, it should at least be seriously sugaring.
 
Ell
9:07 PM
@sehe Ah okay :)
 
Xeo
dunno, I like it
sugar is nice
 
hmm
it would actually be simpler if I handled it in the lexer rather than the parser.
but then you could do something like operator+ := 5;.
 
@Puppy you mean it should sir-wheat!
 
Ell
Damn BuzzFeedYellow. I'm stuck in an infinite loop watching your videos :O
 
9:18 PM
hey all ;)
any of you guys contrib to chromium?
 
Ell
I don't
 
I tried to draft something else, I swear. http://t.co/PYzxa3mO24
For any others MtG players in here.
 
9:33 PM
hmmm
I suddenly have a REALLY bad feeling about this code.
ah yes, it's bugged as shit
 
crap, no windows xp on dreamspark
 
hmm.
 
I don't want to make a windows 7 vm just to run some queries on a mssql db
 
I guess I never seriously considered the ramifications of making access specifiers available to modules.
I must have some kind of error for what happens if you declare a nested module with two different access specifiers.
 
I'm going to make a vista vm
just for the heck of it
 
9:39 PM
time for you to die, FunctionOverloadSet.
I don't love you anymore.
and it's similarly going to be time for you to die, TemplateTypeOverloadSet.
 
@AlexM. Of course not. It's dead.
 
@EtiennedeMartel MS-DOS 6 is there tho
 
std::unordered_map<Lexer::Access, std::unordered_map<std::string, boost::variant<DeclContext*, std::unordered_set<Function*>, std::unordered_set<TemplateType*>>>>
who doesn't love templates?
 
@AlexM. I'm fairly certain MSSQL doesn't target MS-DOS.
 
@EtiennedeMartel I'm certain it doesn't too
 
9:46 PM
@Puppy Me.
 
you suck.
 
@AlexM. Anyway. XP is dead. That was my point.
 
@Puppy Aliases, man, aliases.
 
when there was only Vista then I had sympathy for anyone who was on XP
 
MS-DOS 6 is dead too, but is still available
 
9:47 PM
but Windows 7 has been out forever.
@AlexM. The difference is that we don't need to give millions of people a massive kick in the balls to move on from MS DOS.
 
7 has been out since 2009. Which kinda implies that, if you're still on XP, your PC is older than that.
 
yes but this is dreamspark
 
so what?
 
XP should be available there as most universities still use it
 
then those universities need a massive, humongous kick in the balls.
 
9:49 PM
They dropped support for everyone. That includes universities.
 
and Dreamspark will only deliver a little kick in the balls, unfortunately, but it's a start.
 
If you're still using unsupported software, then you should not be surprised if you can't find support for it.
 
pretty much that.
 
That's the thing with proprietary software: the developer can drop the axe anytime.
 
welp
hope a W7 VM runs fast enough
 
9:51 PM
frankly
I'm coming to believe that not dropping the axe is a bigger problem than dropping it.
how many old Linux servers are now just spambots?
we should design viruses that explot holes in Windows XP and just bring the system down so that they can't be infected and make things worse for other people.
it'll be like our own immune system.
 
@Puppy you tell us?
 
@sehe I actually think the last article I read put it at over 300k, but it's honestly just a vague memory.
I doubt that there are less lazy Linux system owners (as a proportion) than Windows system owners
 
well - there be dozens, if not hundreds of botnets this size, and they won't usually discriminate against or in favour of specific versions of OSes.
 
they usually discriminate in favour of older OSes since they're much easier to breach
@Griwes Upgraded to std::unordered_map<std::string, boost::variant<std::pair<Lexer::Access, DeclContext*>, std::unordered_map<Lexer::Access, std::unordered_set<Function*>>, std::unordered_map<Lexer::Access, std::unordered_set<TemplateType*>>>>
 
14 mins ago, by Griwes
@Puppy Aliases, man, aliases.
 
10:02 PM
@Puppy that needs citation :/
 
well, intuitively, I'd argue that it's simple logic that it'll be easier to breach Windows XP, even prior to the end of support, than Windows Vista, because XP does not have for example, ASLR, if I recall correctly.
@Griwes Nah, this structure isn't used anywhere else.
 
@Puppy Oh, so aliases are just for reuse?
 
@Puppy You mean you never make aliases for local things to help readability?
 
Silly me, I thought they were also for readability.
 
Ell
^
 
10:07 PM
stacking aliases on top of the declaration just makes it bigger
personally I don't have any problem reading that declaration
 
Ell
but easier to understand I reckon
@Puppy You are the author though :P
 
true.
 
Ell
what is a std::pair<Lexer::Access, DeclContext*>?
semantically
 
well, it's an AST, so it doesn't have semantic meaning, only syntactic :P
and what it means is that every named declaration in the module also has an access specifier (usually public).
 
@Puppy It makes for shorter lines.
 
10:10 PM
well I gotta admit, the type doesn't even fit on the screen (1080p).
but I think the real crime here is DeclContext, since it has absolutely nothing to do with declarations or contexts.
maybe I should just scrap it and vary on the subtypes directly.
 
@Puppy well, that's a theoretical "easier". I'd say the pragmatic argument "older systems have been around longer so are better known" is already more potent in the general case. Really, abusing systems is not that hard, especially end-user systems (because end users click dumb things). I doubt that all that hardening makes botnets effectively smaller for those OS-es. Server OSes, yes, perhaps.
@Puppy lower font pitch
 
naw, indentation.
 
Xeo
use fucking aliases
 
concurring
 
Agreed.
 
10:17 PM
wimps
 
Lazy ass.
 
Nah, with proper indentation it's not bad.
 
oh wait
that's what I used declcontext for.
 
win 7 vm is so fast
I must go deeper, I must run a vm inside a vm
and see where it starts slowing down
 
Xeo
alright, another 60 vocab expressions transcribed
good enough for today
 
10:28 PM
for a minute, I read that as "60 vocab transgressions"
 
user1804599
@Xeo if you got those on a test, what would you score on a scale from A to F?
 
@Puppy what the hell happened to coding style (no comments with that structure is a bannable offense. 0/10 wouldn't hire. Of course, you can attain literate code with proper use of aliases)
5
@R.MartinhoFernandes and it's seemlessly integrated into TortoiseGit too. Although I now seem to remember that (much to my surprise) the same worked magically with OpenOffice installed on WinXP
 
@AlexM. DOS is still used on many embedded x86 systems.
 
@Puppy wimp!
 
lol
 
10:38 PM
@sehe: I'm pretty surprised you managed to answer this without any reference to Boost Phoenix, Qi, Karma, or MPL sequences. Not even any Fusion... — Kerrek SB 18 secs ago
Ow. That's low
 
that functionality never worked correctly anyway and probably never could work, so I simply ripped it out too.
 
Xeo
@rightfold hm, tough
I'm just learning most of those
as in, just now
 
guys
GUYS
 
user1804599
I bet you’d get a B—below average.
 
Xeo
so I probably wouldn't fare too well for eng -> jp
 
user1804599
XD
 
yeah
the problem with Goat Simulator being the stupid simulator meta-joke is that people actually bought the game and I heard rumours that a couple of people actually had fun playing with it too
so obviously people had to go even further
next up it'll be a Paint Drying Simulator
 
goat simulator was only good for the hype caused by it
PC Gamer rated it a 3/10 or something but proceeded to fill the headlines with goat sim news
because people loved reading those
 
epic meem
 
next, next, next, next
do I care what components SQL server will install?
of course I don't, this is a VM
I can piss all over it and I won't care
some random component that only microsoft's servers would profit from? fuck that, it goes in too
enterprise bullshit gets installed too
nah, in all seriousness though
VMs offer me a weird sentiment of safety
I can attempt to do anything because I can just undo the changes later
I had no idea windows vms were this fast
I might just keep games on my main installation, and develop windows software on vms from now on
 
10:52 PM
> Just to see how far they can go, and how stupid and gullible people are, they are making this.
And it will make them a tidy profit, I guarantee it.
People buying it "ironically" (moronically more like), people buying "as a joke" (there is a joke there, it's not the buying of the game, but the buyer), and just regular stupid people buying it because they are stupid,.
I wish this developer all the luck in the world. Not that they need it with a simple and ingenious idea like this. Will cost nothing to make, almost every penny made from sales will be profit.
Someone is jealous
@AlexM. what VM host/guest and s/w is that
 
@sehe uh win 7 vm running on win 8.1
using vmware player
 
Aha. I might want to revisit that
VBox proved painfully slow (only with windows)
 
Do you guys recommend using CodeMirror or Ace for javascript source editors
 
paint drying simulator might be a bit tricky to make in a way that it also looks realistic
I think the next guys will stick to tree simulators
 
> I'm calling it now. Free to play but Pay to Win! I see your game man.
 
user3010322
10:57 PM
It'd be great if there were like
 
that's a good idea, make the goal of the game something like having to move 5 cms to the right
 
user3010322
crashing tectonic plates in the game
 
user3010322
and you were born from lava
 
but since, as a rock, you cannot move yourself
 
user3010322
that'd be cool.
 
10:57 PM
you have to pay $5 for a NPC to appear and move you 1cm to the right
 
NPC?
 
non-player character
or maybe make it $500 for it to move you all the way to the right
you're bound to find at least one rich idiot willing to pay that just to brag on the internet
like that guy who bought a $9k app that did nothing but show the world that he bought it
not sure if the price is accurate, maybe it was more (or less)
it was the most expensive app in the app stores at the time, anyway
 
> Report: Father Researched Animals Dying in Hot Cars Before Son's Death people are twisted
> I donated money to the KFC girl. And I signed the petition arguing that murder charges be dropped against this guy. Evidently I'm just the biggest fucking idiot on the Internet.
Oh darn. This is creeping me out:
> In another piece, Weingarten writes how "the parent is usually an ordinary, responsible person who was under unusual stress — stress that neuroscientists have found can trigger a hiccup in the memory system of the brain."
 
11:13 PM
posted on June 25, 2014 by Scott Meyers

When I recently posted about five new videos, I didn't realize that Yandex had published my 11 June presentation at the Moscow C++ Party. There I gave a talk, "Why C++ Sails When the Vasa Sank," which is almost a bookend for the talk I gave at the D Conference last month. "Why C++ Sails..." is my attempt to explain why C++, despite its size and complexity, continues to be a successful and impo

 
@Puppy The choice between say IRBuilder<> CreateAdd and CreateFAdd (for example) is made during your semantic analysis?
 
@sehe wtf
some people are just
not even sure how to put it
 
you shouldn't be sure
it's... shocking
> Aaargh, this was a CSI episode almost exactly! Dad left the baby in the car while at work...terrible tragedy...he seemed inconsolable...but then they discovered the baby was already dead/dying due to being poisoned prior to even being put in the car (either the Dad did the whole crime, or the Mom did the poisoning and the Dad tried to cover it up with the car trickery - can't remember)
 
@Rapptz ACE is fairly easy to work with. I tried it when I wanted to make a new UI for Coliru.
 
yeah CodeMirror seems more troublesome.
 
11:26 PM
> It happened to a friend of mine when we met for dinner and we were literally discussing her baby when her husband arrived and asked where he was (baby was fine, it hadn't been long). She was used to her husband having the kid at that time and so it didn't even occur to her that the baby might have been in her car.
Horrors
 
11:53 PM
thank god my parents had brains
 

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