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4:00 PM
This is going way out of hand.
 
This time its not a coorporation though that gets the advantage, its people
 
I think it shouldn't be a problem for anyone if old information is retrieved by Google. People should be able to make good judgement from old information - including realizing it may no longer be valid
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes "I need help IMMEDIATELY"
I wonder what he's expecting them to do... pay him back his subscription fee? Hell, they should charge him interest on it.
 
@AndyProwl Yea, but you're relying on people to make sensible judgements here, which they're not always capable of
 
^ Cruise Ship plays Seven Nation Army
 
4:02 PM
That's a large ship
 
@TonyTheLion But should Google be held responsible for people's inability to make sensible judgements? I mean it's not like they're reporting anything false
 
@AndyProwl Even if they were: sue them for whatchmacallit.
Slander or something of the sort.
 
lol
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Isn't that what brought about this lawsuit linked to?
 
4:04 PM
@AndyProwl I'm serious.
 
I'll sue them for horrible coding guidelines
 
some Spanish dude was unhappy with a link in the results when he Googled himself
 
@TonyTheLion No, the guy sued them for providing old information.
That's ridiculous.
 
:lol:
 
> It detailed a property auction being held to recover the debts.
 
4:05 PM
@Jefffrey Why the : delimiter?
I never understood this
 
hoy
 
hey
 
@AndyProwl its a CatPlusPlus-ism
not sure where it comes from
 
@AndyProwl Doubt Jeffrey knows himself.
But :stuff: is how you make emoticons on SomethingAwful and other sites.
 
@TonyTheLion yeah I realized that I'm just curious why
 
4:06 PM
CatPlusPlus visits SomethingAwful.
 
To copy Cat.
HA, got it?
 
dat pun
 
@Rapptz I see
 
@TonyTheLion Yes, what about it?
The auction took place, and the debts were true.
 
4:07 PM
Protip. Don't visit SomethingAwful.
 
I was just about to google it
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes If someone finds that about this man, and doesn't know its out of date, that could put him bad light. I guess that's why he didn't want it there
 
since I have no idea what it is
 
OOOOOH~ I don't have to get a grade greater than 5/10 at the AI lab to be able to pass the course
this is such good news
 
It's an old forum :v
 
4:07 PM
the assignments are long as fuck, and I don't have time to finish them now
 
:lol: at my firewall
 
@TonyTheLion You can't find it about me.
 
I only have to finish 3 of them
 
> The Web site you are trying to access is categorized as "Obscene/Tasteless"
 
That's the sort of thing you need to think about before you do it.
Not after.
 
user1804599
4:08 PM
lol firewalls
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I'm not talking about you
 
@AndyProwl I think it refers to a limited set of values, such as lol, cripes, etc... which refers to a well known meaning/picture.
But I'm probably wrong.
 
@TonyTheLion What I mean is that I didn't get those debts, so my image is ok.
 
user1804599
:frogout:
 
The guy did get into debts.
 
4:09 PM
@Jefffrey Makes sense
 
What else did you expect?
 
@AndyProwl I've seen it somewhere else as well, mostly in IRC channels.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes No, my point was, that after he paid the debts and then someone still finds that, and doesn't know it is outdated information, this person could make a wrong decision based on it.
 
I wasn't that wrong after all.
 
4:10 PM
@TonyTheLion Yes, and they could also make a wrong decision if it was the other way around too. They see he was very well in 1998, and he actually is completely broke now, and there will be a news story about it tomorrow.
So what?
People that don't check the facts correctly make bad decisions. What else?
 
user1804599
@Rapptz lol :dong:
 
:flaccid:
 
is Undoer a good name for an UndoManager class?
 
no
 
What does your UndoManager do
 
4:11 PM
What is an undo manager anyway?
 
It handles undo/redo
 
if you're undo-ing stuff, shouldn't you deal with history and an object operating on it?
 
I'd name it History.
 
^
 
I already have a history class :)
 
user1804599
4:12 PM
Name it Stack<Tuple<string, Action>>.
 
user1804599
Also just use an already existing library really.
 
i can name it var
 
@JohanLarsson dat pun?
 
unintentional
 
Why do you need a class to undo things?
 
4:13 PM
Pun is the most misused word in this room. :v
 
Shouldn't it be a property of the document?
 
user1804599
Use Cocoa.
 
@Jefffrey It is a wpf thing, will put it on nuget
 
@Rapptz :j:
@JohanLarsson I don't know what wpf is or what chicken nuggets have to do with it
> there is no difference between a Jew and a pig
 
4:16 PM
@Rapptz Why?
@Jefffrey Cue flaggots.
 
@Jefffrey that can be taken so many ways...
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Not all word plays are puns.
 
This one was.
 
@Rapptz 74 PE problems...need to find one more for my next badge.
 
I hate Firefox.
This black tab nonsense is going to drive me insane one day
 
4:21 PM
What's that?
 
When you tab into a tab, the most of the tab is black.
You have to hover over it to make it normal.
 
Hmm, never seen that.
 
My friends have gotten it before so I know I'm not the only one.
 
Me neither.
 
user1804599
@Jefffrey inb4 you get flagged and banned.
 
4:23 PM
That dumb gluten-free trend has gotten to where I live
 
Relocate.
 
@Rapptz I thought some people needed that.
 
trend? It's more than just a trend. My sister gets very sick if she eats bread.
 
It's pretty rare.
 
define "rare"
 
and I don't mean how you like your steak =p
 
@Code-Guru Wheat bread?
 
yes
 
Wheat allergy is a rare allergy which typically presents itself as a food allergy, but can also be a contact allergy resulting from occupational exposure to wheat. Like all allergies, wheat allergy involves immunoglobulin E and mast cell response. Typically the allergy is limited to the seed storage proteins of wheat, some reactions are restricted to wheat proteins, while others can react across many varieties of seeds and other plant tissues. Wheat allergy may be a misnomer since there are many allergenic components in wheat, for example serine protease inhibitors, glutelins and prolami...
 
and pasta and any other wheat product
Coeliac disease (; celiac disease in the United States and often celiac sprue) is an autoimmune disorder of the small intestine that occurs in genetically predisposed people of all ages from middle infancy onward. Symptoms include pain and discomfort in the digestive tract, chronic constipation and diarrhoea, failure to thrive (in children), anaemia and fatigue, but these may be absent, and symptoms in other organ systems have been described. Vitamin deficiencies are often noted in people with coeliac disease owing to the reduced ability of the small intestine to properly absorb nutrien...
 
user1804599
4:27 PM
Try weed bread. Similar pronunciation, better taste.
 
You're not exactly disproving my point here.
 
> Some people believe that there are health benefits to gluten-free eating for the general population, but there is no published experimental evidence to support such claims.
Oh. Some people think it's hip.
Sigh.
 
Yes
 
and some people have serious health issues that require such a diet
 
Health fads is my number one annoyance on Earth.
 
4:29 PM
no matter how rare it is, it seriously impacts lives
 
No shit.
 
=p
 
I'm talking about people who use it as an advertising point.
 
that's all
 
Don't act ignorant.
:|
 
4:30 PM
I think we are talking past each other, and both making valid points
;-)
 
well
I think that it's not necessarily bad to prepare food as gluten-free if you can, there's no sense in not catering to that demographic if it's not gonna cost you much
 
Peanuts are a serious allergy but I don't see signs saying "We make peanut-free milk"
 
user1804599
Maybe most people like peanutful milk.
 
gluten is in a lot more products than peanuts
at least that's unscientific impression
 
Is it?
 
4:33 PM
Stuff gets peanut-contaminated without having peanuts in its composition.
 
\o/ we now have a new ASDA in Uttoxeter \o/
Some competition for Tesco, at last. We've just been there and, though we've spent about as much as expected, we did seem to get more stuff:)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yup
 
I do find it strange that something is advertised "gluten free" when you wouldn't suspect it had any gluten in it in the first place.
 
@MartinJames It's the discounters like Aldi, Lidl, pound stores who are really hurting them now.
 
Anyway the signs I saw today were for gluten-free cheese and veggies.
Health fads be damned.
 
4:34 PM
yah, I'd agree that's a little overkill
 
@Code-Guru For the same reason as peanuts, I guess.
 
@DeadMG Yeah, we have an Aldi, but it's only small. There are a couple pound stores next to each other, so I can stock up my beer fridge cheap:)
 
Factories don't have hermetically sealed peanut-only processing sections and so on.
 
Let's start a peanut free fad!
 
Not bad. Except for the price
 
4:36 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes that's because the whole facility has to be peanut free to advertise their product as such...at least that's my understanding how it works in the US
 
@sehe And the name.
 
@sehe Nice. Charcoal black and Segfault orange.
 
Windows (download)October 9, 2007 PlayStation 3 (retail) }} | genre = First-person shooter, puzzle, compilation | modes = Single player, multiplayer | platforms = Microsoft Windows, PlayStation 3, Xbox 360, Mac OS X, Linux | ratings = | media = Blu-ray Disc, download, DVD-ROM | input = Keyboard and mouse, gamepad| requirements = Minimum: 1.7 GHz processor, 512 MB RAM, 128MB Video card, 20GB available Hard drive space, DirectX 8 level graphics card, Windows 2000/XP/Vista, Internet connection}} The Orange Box is a video game compilation for Microsoft Windows, Xbox 360, PlayStation 3, ...
@DeadMG Gosh, Lidl is everywhere.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I saw one in Cyprus
 
they're everywhere in Romania now that they've bought Plus
> From the Canyon Edge: The Orange Box: Cloud for the Free Man
I see what they did there
 
4:43 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit: The answer you linked made it clear to me. Still I think you guys are a bit unfriendly. I asked about a apparently new and quite complicated issue which was completely unknown to me. It would have been easy to just write a short "it's called that, explained here" answer. Not sure if stackoverflow goes the right way by suppressing discussion about interesting new C++ features but at the same time allowing a ton of low quality questions about homework, "please parse my error messages", "what is a pointer"... I got my reputation by trying to help these people... — Danvil 31 mins ago
:(
 
@Danvil: We do not "allow" those questions! Unfortunately there are so very many of them that it is not feasible to effectively close/delete them all. Believe me, the community is trying. As for "unfriendly", we just answered your question for you, for free. What do you want? If you want "discussion" then you're definitely in the wrong place: Stack Overflow is not a discussion forum or message board, and there is absolutely no reason that it should be. — Lightness Races in Orbit 1 min ago
:P
Actually, more to the point:
Also, "getting your reputation" by answering those low quality questions is precisely why people keep coming back and asking them. Please don't. — Lightness Races in Orbit 12 secs ago
 
That duplicate is the wrong one.
Well, it's right
But there's a better one
Should this get turned into ?
Imma add the tag :v you can remove it if you object.
 
user1804599
I just realised Google Glass is a monocle.
 
And then people ask what use is a refactoring tool.
Added a pointer parameter to a function, fixed a bunch a places that broke, and then there was one with a 0 argument that started picking the wrong overload because null pointers.
 
4:56 PM
Repost, I think
 
user3010322
Hm.
 
user3010322
Need to compute the forward and right vectors from the up vector.
 
Xeo
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Why did you delete that :(
 
user3010322
@Xeo Fear.
 
user3010322
Even the light has fears.
 
user3010322
4:58 PM
Also I FOUND MORE GROOVY MUSIC
 
user3010322
AND IT IS THE BEST.
 
user1804599
> class wrap
 
user1804599
Yum, wraps.
 
user3010322
 
user3010322
4:59 PM
^ Leeesteeen.
 
user1804599
@Xeo nice
 
@Xeo Not much weirder than Madoka was :)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Thanks.
 
user3010322
@Xeo .... What. <____>
 
Xeo
5:02 PM
@StackedCrooked I like it
 
user3010322
That was... uh.
 
user3010322
Pretty ridiculous.
 
@Xeo I didn't >.<
 
@Jefffrey I have no idea why this new one with crap quality popped up recently on the Intertubes, and why it overtook the much better original one.
 
@Xeo character heads were cubes
other than that, no objection
 
5:03 PM
I've re-added my comments. It's ludicrous to delete mine but leave his whinging.
 
Xeo
@AlexM. Shaft vOv
 
@Jefffrey Alternative interpretation btw: youtube.com/watch?v=v-9t9BIBLKw. Not as good, but I don't care. I love that story.
 
isn't that OVA with the pretty witch girls also Shaft?
that one doesn't have cuboid heads
 
Xeo
5:04 PM
huh?
 
is a 2013 animated short produced by Trigger for Anime Mirai 2013. The short was created and directed by Yoh Yoshinari and written by Masahiko Otsuka. The short was released in theaters on March 2, 2013 and was later streamed with English subtitles on YouTube from April 19, 2013. A second episode, funded by Kickstarter, is currently in development. Story Akko Kagari enrolls into , a school for young witches, after being inspired at a young age by a witch named Shiny Chariot, and often spends her days hanging with her classmates, Lotte and Sucy. However, she has trouble paying attent...
 
huh, it says it was made by Trigger
why the hell did I remember it being made by Shaft
 
By now I think I could maybe recite it by heart.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yup, I read that. It's the master parent of that comment.
 
user1804599
5:06 PM
Hmm, Ray-Ban.
 
Just failed three CAPTCHAs.
6
 
lol
 
user1804599
ITT CAPTCHAs do what they’re supposed to do.
 
Xeo
@AlexM. No clue
but Trigger is awesome :)
@R.MartinhoFernandes Again?
 
I'm "orfolei" on Reddit.
@Xeo Reddit CAPTCHAs aren't even that complicated :S
 
user3010322
5:13 PM
AIs got a looong way to go.
 
^ lol
 
Spec Ops: The Line is 75% off on Steam until may 16. Go get it you cheapskates.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Do not want.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Because it looks like simple dumbed down run of the mill linear shooter.
 
5:19 PM
@VáclavZeman Oh, right, it's intentional. They do that to lure you in and then slap you accross the face with your expectations.
 
not in gameplay terms, though.
 
@DeadMG Again, it's intentional.
 
OMG I can enter "1995" in the birth date thing and it passes.
 
the act of actually playing the game is basic boring-ass linear shooter
 
@DeadMG Yes, because you're not supposed to have fun.
 
5:20 PM
@VáclavZeman what's call of duty then?
pat-a-cake?
 
which makes it a terrible game.
 
@AlexM. Same shit.
 
@DeadMG Which is the problem with the word "game".
 
@EtiennedeMartel What are you talking about?
 
Speaking of Steam. Can any of you see steamcommunity.com/id/BoltClock/stats/BioShockInfinite
 
5:20 PM
@EtiennedeMartel Your line of defence does not make any sense so far.
 
We use "game" to designate any form of interactive experience, despite the fact that many great such experiences these days are not games.
 
@BoltClock yep
 
@BoltClock See what?
 
@EtiennedeMartel WTF are you smoking?
 
@BoltClock Ha, no Scavenger Hunt? You suck.
@VáclavZeman He's too hip for you.
 
5:21 PM
@VáclavZeman Have you tried The Stanley Parable?
It's not a game.
 
@VáclavZeman Well, Spec Ops is more like a film that drags on for 8-10 hours and has a whole bunch of boring shooting gameplay in the middle.
2
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes That, and something else (78/80 done). I feel like that something else is obvious
 
The Stanley parable is fun.
 
I don't think "simple dumbed down run of the mill linear shooter" are something bad tbh
they're just a kind of games
 
@VáclavZeman Spec Ops: The Line is a, to employ the words of someone else, a "scathing self-aware caricature of its own genre".
 
user3010322
5:22 PM
Old Arcade Shooters \o/
 
@EtiennedeMartel I have not.
 
@BoltClock Hmm, I don't know.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Whatever, it is still a game.
 
@VáclavZeman It's not fun.
(And I know "game" doesn't necessarily mean "entertainment")
 
@EtiennedeMartel Then it is no fun game, still a game.
 
5:25 PM
I was replying to DeadMG.
Who seems to equate "no fun" with "terrible".
 
@EtiennedeMartel You seem to have utterly failed at that.
His latest message is 10 above that.
 
Yeah, just realized.
 
I recommend an ophthalmologist.
OMG I wrote that at first try.
 
How many tries does it usually take to write a word?
 
5:27 PM
@VáclavZeman Anyway, the point I'm getting at: it looks like a "simple dumbed down run of the mill linear shooter" because its meant to criticize such shooters.
 
what I'm saying is that it's totally irrelevant what it's meant to do.
 
@DeadMG No.
 
what matters is what it does, and what it does is bore you to tears
 
@EtiennedeMartel did they let the press know that too?
 
You completely fail at art analysis.
 
5:28 PM
@EtiennedeMartel Yes, my statement was/is a critique of the game.
 
@EtiennedeMartel well I tried to be Picasso?
 
@EtiennedeMartel It's easy. I played the game, it was quite boring, that's it.
 
That doesn't make any sense, Sam.
 
I went to play KSP or something
 
@Jefffrey It was meant to be many things. That doesn't mean it was successful.
 
5:30 PM
I see what you are doing there.
 
@DeadMG You played a short part of it, IIRC.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Figured it out, it's the achievement for simply beating 1999 mode, which is a secret achievement for whatever reason. So, double the suck
 
@VáclavZeman Can you critique a game without playing it?
 
Yes.
I'm free to critique a game's soundtrack without playing the game.
 
Can you critique a game while only experiencing a small portion of its marketing?
 
5:33 PM
I'm free to critique a game's visuals without playing the game.
 
@EtiennedeMartel I played for a couple hours. It had a chance to demonstrate that it had something to offer.
you don't need to play 20 hours of Portal or KSP to immediately understand what's on offer.
 
I'm free to critique the game by merely watching someone else play the game.
 
Yahtzee said it perfectly well- I'm not gonna sink 20 hours into the game just because it might be fun later.
 
@DeadMG Yahtzee also said you should play SOTL.
 
user1804599
I want to play Donkey Kong Country.
 
5:34 PM
@rightfold DKC2 is better.
 
yeah, but he's really not an authority on anything.
 
I want to play CS
 
user1804599
I liked both very well.
 
actually fuck that, I am going to play CS
 
user1804599
DKC3 wasn’t very fun though.
 
5:35 PM
I only quoted him for my own amusement. It wasn't meant to be an appeal to authority. It's my own opinion.
 
@Rapptz But what if the game requires you to play it in order to properly send its message to you?
Don't you feel like you're missing the point?
 
I don't care about Stanley Parable :v
 
@Rapptz Then you've [SPOILER REDACTED] the game
 
I mean, video games are an interactive medium. You have to take that into account if you're doing a critique of the game itself. Because I really think a game is more than the sum of its parts, and you can't just check out a few parts, do an average and leave it at that.
 
@DeadMG Sounds like The Last Of Us.
 
5:40 PM
@EtiennedeMartel Is it doing a good job of communicating its gestalt if you check out a few parts and don't get any of it?
 
user1804599
Why is there a WataMote rule 34 thread on /b/.
 
5:56 PM
why are you on /b/?
 
user1804599
4fun
 
Boss convinced me to have a few beers after work. This is going to end bad.
 
user3010322
@R.MartinhoFernandes Starred to remember to ask how it went afterwards.~
 

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