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> Der von Ihnen gewählte DDR3-Speicher entspricht nicht dem JEDEC-Standard. Daher werden wir diesen Speicher auf JEDEC-konforme Timings einstellen, falls Sie die Konfiguration inklusive Zusammenbau bestellen.
wtf is that supposed to mean
@Xeo their chosen ddr3 memory does not conform to the jedec standard.
free airport wifi yay
@LightnessRacesinOrbit, Oh hai Non-StopTimeTravel.
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@SecondRikudo I'm German, I know what the text says. :P I just don't know wtf the JEDEC standard is, and what conforming timings are
No idea :D
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@jefffrey heh
that one did not last long
if you, say, time travel in a certain way - like vibrating around certain time point no stop, are you really time traveling or not?
Writing splitAt (eg. splitAt ',' "a,bc,d, e" -> ["a", "bc", "d", " e"]), in Haskell, was unexpectedly difficult.
@chmod Yes.
in the same way that running around your garden 50 times will still burn calories and make you puke
observable effects -> "it happened"
only if you are Captain America might you be able to invoke the as-if rule
What if you were captain nigeria, could you invoke the as-if rule?
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13:19
Let’s fork TypeScript to add <| and |>.
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Without them I’d need instance methods to get pwetty syntax.
hmm
how about prince of Nigeria then?
if Clang generates some batshit insane function signature... just bitcast it to the one we're expecting.
bio of this user:
very day I learn something new on SO !

My favorites (not in any order) :-

    johannes-schaub-litb
    jerry-coffin
    konrad-rudolph
wow, such a fanboy hmph
<- jealous he's not on the list
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@DeadMG That sounds dangerous.
well, I'm trying to determine if it is, but it might not be.
they have to generate functions according to the ABI and there are many valid LLVM IR mappings for some ABI rules
so in principle, even if Clang and I disagree on what a function should look like at the LLVM level, they should be binary compatible.
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Man.
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Cloning this repo takes ages.
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It’s at 50% and it’s already 600MB.
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And then I have to push it to GitHub. ;_;
13:43
russia's prime minister sends threats that he'll get on a bombardier and attack romania, romania's president proceeds and publicly calls him a drunkard
the diplomacy skill levels here are over 9000
13:56
can I clone your repo, rightfold? ;)
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You can, of course. It is open-source.
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Ahaa, okay, pcpartpicker didn't show me the EVGA GTX760 graphics card because they have no price information on it /cc @Rapptz
14:20
I cracked my knuckles
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Meh, duplicate code. :<
hmm, anyone know where I can ask about vspackages for visual studio?
I meant live :)
then no.
14:31
OK, thanks anyway
@DeadMG 'cuz you're dead, not alive?
@AdrianS msdn forums maybe?
@Jefffrey I think there's "splitOn" or some such that does that, vOv
@Jefffrey I've been thinking about it - why can't you just takeWhile (not . (==) delim) and then recurse and build a list? (should be a one liner too)
14:54
guys what's an easy science course?
<social> science
actually, I had to take one social science course (could choose between Psychology, Sociology and some other pseudo-logies) and it was kinda difficult as they wanted me to memorize ton of crap
damn, more MSVC compiler bugs.
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I can't even declare a function taking vector<unique_ptr<T>> without the compiler erroring out.
@ScarletAmaranth There's split which would do that. But I was doing it as an exercise.
@Jefffrey read the other reply :)
@ScarletAmaranth Yeah, I thought about takeWhile and (/= delim) too, but couldn't come up with an answer.
That would work for the first split, but then there's no way you can know where it last splitted, unless you use some kind of State monad.
why not? just send tail to the recursion
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span
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@ScarletAmaranth but you don't know the tail :(
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@ScarletAmaranth takeWhile leaves you no tail
you could go with dropWhile to get the tail, but at that point, you have span :P
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span p xs = (takeWhile p xs, dropWhile p xs)
yeah, span works :)
how do the stack overflow notifications work that access the windows tray?
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Interestingly enough words (which is a more specific case in which the delimiter is ' '), kind of folds on the right using dropWhile.
words s  =  case dropWhile isSpace s of
    "" -> []
    s' -> w : words s''
    where (w, s'') =
        break isSpace s'
I still find it hard to believe this track is 19 years old
I wonder why they don't implement it in terms of split or span.
it sounds so today-ish, if that makes sense
I think Hack is a good thing.
A very good one, actually.
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15:55
Wokay, I'll probably go with this for my new PC: de.pcpartpicker.com/p/3HYgt /cc @Rapptz @Mysticial
fuck.
std::vector<std::unique_ptr<T>> - can't copy construct unique_ptr<T>.
std::vector<std::unique_ptr<int>> - no problem.
@Xeo Do you really need a water cooler for that CPU?
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@Borgleader It costs about the same as a normal fan, but is less in-the-way
@Xeo looks neat to me
I have an i5 2400 and don't feel like changing it anytime soon
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I have an AMD 64 X2 4.200+ :P
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you'll definitely feel the difference then haha
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> The Athlon 64 X2 is the first dual-core desktop CPU designed by AMD.
:D
@EtiennedeMartel ...
@Xeo Idk if it has mounts for your socket, but the Hyper 212 Evo does a bang up job and costs about 30$
I like the SSD too, when I bought mine I didn't pay enough attention and got one of the newer Kingstons
which use dunno what kind of components and are half as slow as the first iterations
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I have a really old SSD from Kingston. At that time, it was 64gig for 100eur
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random r/w is a lot faster than my hdd so my system does feel snappy
but sequential r/w is just as bad as on my hdd
many people were pissed at kingston for this
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Hm, apparently, my current PC setup is basically 8 years old
@Xeo There are air coolers that make less noise than your PSU. So no need for water really these days. But I get it, water is "cooler" ;)
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though I upgraded the ram from 1GB to 2GB to 4GB over time
also a DVD drive :O
I was thinking to leave that out for my next PC
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it's 17eur, so whatevs
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I haven't had a DVD drive for years.
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and it's nice to have one for emergencies or whatever
that's what USB sticks are for now
@AlexM. electronic music is way older than 1995
I skipped on the DVD drive and then I ended up pirating the stuff I own on DVD.
Just to save 17 bucks? :)
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@StackedCrooked I know, but the song itself sounds way more modern than...
this, which is ~37 years old
it's more convenient to have them on your HDD than on a DVD anyway even if you have a DVD drive
@FredOverflow No, mostly because I'm dumb.
leave the DVD drive out, and put an SSD in there
pave your case with SSDs
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err
no amount of SSDs is enough
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Er.
Right.
@AlexM. I think 1 is plenty.
@FredOverflow I... didn't realize I wouldn't be able to watch the stuff on DVDs without a DVD drive, I guess.
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Classic Robot.
I can either rip it on my laptop which has a noisy as fuck drive and then copy it over to the desktop, or just pirate it directly.
16:05
I didn't have a bay adapter for my SSD so I took advantage of the fact that it has no moving parts and sort of hanged it in one of the bays
I tied the SATA cable with a plastic rope thingy to make sure it doesn't fall down when I move the case
Sounds like a bitcoin rig.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Can't you just buy a DVD drive now?
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I'm still pondering if I should get Win8 for my new PC, or just continue using my current Win7
@R.MartinhoFernandes aren't those full of GPUs?
Win7 is just fine.
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I like Win8, but it's 100eur :(
@AlexM. They're full of hazardous setups.
@R.MartinhoFernandes I have a DVD drive, but still cannot watch content 'cos I nicked the SATA cable for another hard disk.
@FredOverflow I guess.
My brain is dying I cannot stay awake to atch Debry playofff cos Doombar maxed.
someone give me a code-example! ARGHH! — Muneer Khan 32 mins ago
16:10
@Jefffrey I thought it was a conceptual question.
@Jefffrey Ok, dunno whyu but I'm closing it anywy.
Bedtime
Night. :)
I was gonna make a "semi-official" proposal for "remove map and rename fmap to map", but then I realized it doesn't really matter, and it won't get accepted anyway because "ERMAGHERD NEEDZ TO TEACH DEM STUDENZ".
@Xeo if you have to pay for it, there's no reason to go with Win 8 imo
I use Win 8.1 and I'm happy with it but only because I got it from college
@R.MartinhoFernandes Are you mocking this comment or did you really believe it?
otherwise, I would have kept on using Win 7
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16:13
@Jefffrey remove map and rename fmap to fap
Feb 14 '13 at 15:49, by Nolwenn Le Guen
inb4 some pun on fap
More than a year, Fanael. You should feel bad. ;)
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@Jefffrey Do you mean I shouldn't be congratulating Manchester United for their Premier League title?
@Fanael How dare you do that?
I'm gonna cook.
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Good luck to your fingers if knifes are involved
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16:21
@Jefffrey I don't.
Good.
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Frankly, I think they had a brilliant season this year, and hope they continue to perform the same.
@Xeo if I don't show up anymore you know what happened.
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hehe
I want my possessions identified.
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16:25
Will investigate when I come over for the Unconference
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@R.MartinhoFernandes cursed -3 knife
You can't die, silly.
@Fanael Says here on the BBC that Manchester City won it.
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@DeadMG Yes, they did.
on the fucking frontpage too
what a waste of taxpayer money
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16:37
BBC is publicly owned?
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Why is mankind still so primitive.
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Why don’t we have Dyson spheres yet.
because we still solve our biggest problems through conflict instead of cooperation
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@rightfold I don't know what those are, but the inventor is probably going to copyright the design, and hence none will ever be manufactured.
Nah. I'm pretty sure it's because they're too costly.
Dyson sphere is a hypothetical megastructure that completely encompasses a star and hence captures most or all of its power output. It was first described by Freeman Dyson. Dyson speculated that such structures would be the logical consequence of the long-term survival and escalating energy needs of a technological civilization, and proposed that searching for evidence of the existence of such structures might lead to the detection of advanced intelligent extraterrestrial life. Different types of Dyson spheres correlate with information on the Kardashev scale. Since then, other variant des...
> that completely encompasses a star
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I think manufacturing one costs so much that it’s still impossible.
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Basically, it’s a sphere surrounding a star that absorbs all of the star’s energy output.
I want some mcdonald's now
at least I'll go for a walk, brb
16:55
@rightfold How do you make it not get sucked into the star? And how do you transport the energy to earth?
@FredOverflow You go live there. You don't bring anything to hearth.
I think.
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@FredOverflow As for the former, I have no idea. As for the latter, you can make the Dyson sphere habitable so you don’t need Earth anymore.
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Or you can use cables. :D
Yeah, ask Cyrus Field for help
How does Earth not get sucked into a star?
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16:58
MAGIC!
With Haskell.
Pretty sure it's magnets.
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Magnets are magic
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Magnets are magnetic.
@R.MartinhoFernandes how do they work?
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oh by the way
doesn't dark energy imply that a stable orbit is impossible?
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Your mother implies a stable orbit is in fact very possible.
She's orbiting a stable?
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The other way around.
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She is a stable
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She is instable
@Jefffrey It won't get accepted because of compatibility issues
I need to believe it will be changed.
I need to believe Haskell can be polished.
Is there someone experienced with general RESTful API designs?
Yes no maybe
Take this for example. How do I "authenticate" considering that authentication is required?
17:24
Requires login
By the way, don't use Uqido. That's managed by guy who put HTML in the database.
API docs will have auth documented, or it's not an API you want to use
Auth is not documented because this is the entire API.
> Response: Json Array of Clients
well, that's helpful
I can't read that, it requires login
Oh, right.
Nevermind then.
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17:28
Dammit.
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Fuck you GitHub.
Did they ban you for removing and creating repos constantly :v
Code laundering.
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No.
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But git push just hangs after uploading 65 MB of objects.
17:38
What are you trying to upload? All 6 seasons of Lost?
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TypeScript.
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Oh now it hangs after 3.41 MB.
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Great.
What the hell did you do? Did you insult its mother on Mother's Day?
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The whole repo is about 1.2 GB.
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did they just use the memory leak operator?
You know there's a 1GB soft quota on the repo, right?
FibTask& a = *new(task::allocate_root()) FibTask(n,&sum);
@Borgleader That's a placement new.
Also why is the repo 1.2GB anyway
oh right
17:48
Are you literally mirroring the entire TS history
I just saw *new and freaked out =/
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Yes.
What for
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@CatPlusPlus No.
If you want to set up a mirror then send them an email, they have a 'mirror' repo type for a reason
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17:51
> If your repository exceeds 1GB, you might receive a polite email from support requesting that you reduce the size of the repository to bring it back down under 1GB.
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Oh. :v
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@CatPlusPlus I want to make my own modifications.
Besides it's likely already there
@rightfold You can fork the mirror then. Or just squash the entire history and upload that, it'll be like 1000x smaller
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Yeah, I’ll just remove the history.
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However, am I still able to merge from official TypeScript repo if I do that?
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18:04
Hmm. I removed .git and it’s still 1.2GB. ;_;
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Ah, 1GB of test data.
posted on May 11, 2014 by Anders Schau Knatten

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@Mysticial Not necessarily.
it can just be a user-defined operator new
@Feeds looks interesting
but expensive, as usual
should go to widecon instead, it's free every day right here
18:18
@DeadMG lol
chocolate milkshakes are good
So I forgot to reduce all quantities in the recipe to 1/4 and now cooked for four people.
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hahaha
@R.MartinhoFernandes didn't you still have extra beers in the fridge?
@R.MartinhoFernandes Practicing for the unconference already, I see.
18:23
get 3 more people in there
just put leftovers in fridge and eat as breakfast later
oDesk says
> Please keep in mind these rules and guidelines when you open your account:

You must use your own name.
You may not use fake names: "Will Workhard"
You may not use someone else's name: "Abraham Lincoln"
hello sirs plz unlock account my name rly is michael jackson
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18:41
Hmm.
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Object.prototype.to = function(f: any, ...xs: any[]) { return f.apply(this, xs); }
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Won’t work with TypeScript though. Y u no variadic generics.
The worst part of cooking so much is that I'm not to happy with the result anyway.
@CatPlusPlus Wait. They are going to change the Monad typeclass by requiring the monadic type to be also an Applicative. That doesn't break anything?
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Maybe, but it's for The Greater Good™
18:45
It breaks some things but the benefit is great and there's a simple migration path
Why can't they do the same with fmap <-> map?
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IIRC there is a proposal for that
even more: fmap was map, some time ago
then the Prelude got overhauled to make it easier for beginners
We have to go back!
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there's an idea with having Prelude and BeginnerPrelude or something
Fucking noobs
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18:48
It's about the confusing type errors when you screw up
I agree
people who want to learn Haskell are fuckers.
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People who want to learn Haskell instead of complaining about Haskell without knowing anything about it are good people.
On the other hand, C++ doesn't make anything easier for noobs and look how it ended up.
I'd say that most languages only make people who program in them annoyed
With a semi-consistent and thin standard library.
18:54
whereas Haskell manages to annoy everybody.
They should also move IO into a separate module IMHO.
> > :type (,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,)
<interactive>:1:1:
A 63-tuple is too large for GHC
(max size is 62)
Workaround: use nested tuples or define a data type
Oh well, this has been fun.

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