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@ThePhD No. The latter is UB.
@ThePhD invoking it. Also, that in no way mitigates the fact that /there is a well-defined value for that type/ (which AFAICT was the topic of this discussion. You thought you had encountered a "weird" type with no valid values. That's not the case)
Oh, FFS.......
Wow
That comment section cleaned itself up without mod intervention:
friendly reminder that CMake is a piece of garbage
:(
everybody's bitching except sehe
bitching about what?
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Did you see what J. Reinhart had "contributed" before that :/
@StackedCrooked that's pretty cool
OK, I've had enough and so I tried to commit suicide. I called through the selfDead member pointer but got indirected to answering questions about linked-lists.
00:05
@StackedCrooked indeed
I think Martin's gone.
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@R.MartinhoFernandes I see. I understand now.
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Sorry for wasting so much time of yours.
@StackedCrooked What the heck. Wow
@ThePhD Don't be. Be sorry for yours :P
00:06
That video was pretty impressive.
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@R.MartinhoFernandes I learned something, that has application to what I'm doing now. As far as I'm concerned, I'm getting what I want / need.
@Jefffrey I liked him when he introduced himself in the beginning. Wasn't expecting him to be that good :D
I'm solid gone, man....
Oh.
I was gonna ask "So soon?"
And then I realised it's past 2.
Dammit.
00:08
totally bedtime
bye
I'm waiting for bacon to defrost.
I can't go to sleep without SVGs coming out of this.
@StackedCrooked He seems to be a smart guy
we got a wiki now? say whaa
I don't want to have nightmares about non-Euclidean paths.
00:09
I've been gone for too long
I can't go to sleep without bacon, burger and beans.
@R.MartinhoFernandes fingers crossed for fashion week in Berlin being around that date. thanks!
00:11
@FilipRoséen-refp I think that was already.
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@LightnessRacesinOrbit Groundbreaking science.
@R.MartinhoFernandes I was there in january, but there are two fashion weeks every year (in each city).
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My whole life has changed, I tell ya.
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Impressive.
@FilipRoséen-refp Ah, I see.
LOL - I just spotted in 'Confirmed no': 'Vlad from Moscow'.
00:14
you are getting older
@R.MartinhoFernandes seems like next time I will mos' def' touch down in berlin is at the beginning of july (fashion week starts at the 8th of July). but I might show up for the meet anyhow, got friends over there so I might as well come and say Hi
perks of living in the great north: everything is down.
@LightnessRacesinOrbit he's a model
Passion week
00:15
@FilipRoséen-refp I don't get it.
@Rapptz Yes, I've known about that for approximately six years.
I'm sorry grandpa.
@Jefffrey you live far up north (up), geographically "everything" (worth visiting) is south (down).
@LightnessRacesinOrbit six years? you stalker.
@Rapptz FFFFFFFF
I gotta check on my bacon.
@FilipRoséen-refp But.. the earth is a sphere.
00:17
@Jefffrey perks of living on earth: everything (on earth) is in every direction.
better?
The Earth is not an SVG.
it's still south o.o
@Jefffrey Everything is south of the North Pole.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Never said otherwise.
@FilipRoséen-refp IRC innit bitch
00:18
@Jefffrey why is being a sphere important?
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Teh Internetz.
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One std::allocator<T> can delete the stuff of another std::allocator<T>, yes?
It's required to.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Because you can find other interesting northern countries by going up.
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Works for me.
00:19
@Jefffrey Not if there's nothing else up. That was his point
@Jefffrey there's nothing interesting north of Sweden
@R.MartinhoFernandes There's always something up, if the earth is a sphere.
@conversnitch, New York City
Automatically tweeting overheard conversations.
314 tweets, 2.6k followers, following 13 users
Unfollowed. Very interesting but too noisy to keep following
It's down after you reach the top!
@LightnessRacesinOrbit ##c++ is dead; fix it.
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00:21
You can template specialize std::allocator<T> with T = user defined class ?
probably
has to meet the requirements though
@R.MartinhoFernandes It depends on what you define with "up" and "down".
@ThePhD If you can, there's very little interesting that you can do with it.
6 mins ago, by Filip Roséen - refp
@Jefffrey you live far up north (up), geographically "everything" (worth visiting) is south (down).
He did.
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I should just use new and call it a day, then.
> "I went out to eat with my boyfriend, but i swear its not what it looks like in not gay only my boyfriend is gay."
Ok.
@sehe Porn sets.
00:26
time to build Boost
> It's a bit embarassing for a Unicode mail list to not even be able to let guillemets through unmolested.
> 02:25:08 rubenator: is there a reputable certification for C++?
> 02:25:16 j4cbo: no
> 02:25:24 rubenator: lame. lol
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Yes, very lame.
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Unfortunately you have to prove your skills and you can't just paper your way in.
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Imagine that.
00:28
what the.. give me bold!
@FilipRoséen-refp So, should I put you on "yes" or "FILE_NOT_FOUND"?
@R.MartinhoFernandes I struggled to understand what FILE_NOT_FOUND implies, is it a "maybe"?
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You can put me down as no, btw @R.MartinhoFernandes
@FilipRoséen-refp Yes.
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Life's drained all my money.
00:30
@R.MartinhoFernandes FILE_NOT_FOUND sounds good
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I pushed back my internship start date to make room for the trip but I'm not going to make it.
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I've been bleeding money this whole semester...
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I'm never gonna see a dime of it back.
life drained all your money, but you still wanna travel (and don't mind discomfort in the process)? ryanair (europe).
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00:31
Strangely enough, the people I give all of it to call me miserly.
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@FilipRoséen-refp 40 dollars is barely enough for me to get home. It's not going to be enough to get me to Europe, even if I arrive 4 days early to walk from the airport to where the meetup is.
@ThePhD 1) steal a bike 2) use said bike 3) ??? 4) profit
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Now's the time I wish I knew more people. I could suck in my college's linked-list question askers and bleed them for dollars by "tutoring" them.
night all
night
00:35
sleep tight!
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Don't let the exceptions bite.
guys, i am like beginner. Should i start reading boost library?
4287
Q: The Definitive C++ Book Guide and List

grepsedawkThis question attempts to collect the few pearls among the dozens of bad C++ books that are published every year. Unlike many other programming languages, which are often picked up on the go from tutorials found on the Internet, few are able to quickly pick up C++ without studying a well-written...

On that note, I'm going to sleep...
    - test                     : building
    - thread                   : building
    - timer                    : building
    - wave                     : building

...patience...
...patience...
lol what
damn boost, I'm patient :(
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Haha.
00:49
I hope boost builds on GCC 4.9.0
btw @ThePhD told ya
at most 6 days!
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Pffft.
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Probably RIFE with bugs.
Are you talking about MSVC?
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mingw. :b
@FilipRoséen-refp I'm doing EMA<>TXF on Ryanair. Never had any problem with them.
00:51
-Wunused-local-typedef is such a dumb warning
@MartinJames I'm flying with them more than often, it's a nice way to save some money. It's not hell, but compared to other flights it's.. hell
@Rapptz the only reason I can think of for leaving that on is if you intentially are using a typedef to hide some other name in a surrounding scope.. don't ask me why'd you try to do that though
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Heh.
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Heheheheh.
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UE4, DontUseOldTypes;
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Hehehehehehehe.
00:53
@FilipRoséen-refp Well, the scratchcard announcements are indeed annoying, but I can put up with it 'cos price plus never been delayed.
@MartinJames the air is dry as fuck though.. I hate it
I need some
on two occasions they have overbooked the flight I was supposed to get on. even though "never been delayed" is quite accurate, it's not entirely accurate
190 upvotes
for my gold c++ badge
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Welp.
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00:55
Time to become @Mysticial's #2 then
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Farm that rep.
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TWIST THOSE KNOBS.
but all these questions suck
please stop gcc :(
@Rapptz ikr. It's taking me forever to get to 100k.
 warning: typedef 'integer_traits' locally defined but not used [-Wunused-local-typedefs]
             typedef integer_traits<value_type> integer_traits;
00:56
That's why the 1's hate the 2's. :)
@FilipRoséen-refp I didn't think that Ryanair did overbooking. They take the full price of the flight up front - if you don't turn up, tough.
all the questions on atm suck
they're not even fun C++ questions
All the questions on Stack Overflow suck.
At least 95% of them. :)
@MartinJames well, they obviously do overbook. how else was I affected by it?
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Q: find out the type of auto

Bryan ChenI am playing with generic lambda in C++1y and I often confused by don't know what is the type of auto variable/parameter. Is any good way to find it out? Currently I am using typeid(decltype(arg)).name()) but it is not very useful. @encode gives a slightly better result but still hard to deciphe...

jesus christ
?_?
what the hell man
00:59
Something's weird there.
he did a strikethrough
@Rapptz what the hell... indeed
Robot failed the my captcha.
01:01
@FilipRoséen-refp No clue. I've no idea, it's never happened to me. Nobody from Ryanair has offered me money to take a later flight, or any of that shit.
@MartinJames both times it was from paris to milan
@FilipRoséen-refp :((
I mean; I'm still flying with 'em.. if it's cheap, it's cheap.
I wonder if it's possible to make a tuple_iterator of sorts
What's the type of operator*?
01:04
magic
but yeah iunno, I was just wondering how badly tuples suck in C++
for reasons unrelated to tuple_iterator
@Rapptz doves everywhere
@Rapptz They should ...-enabled.
@FilipRoséen-refp Yeah. AFAIK, their business model is that they try to sell all 189 seats on their 737-800's and take the cash up front. If you don't turn up at the gate on time, they still have your money, and you have zero chance of getting it back.
I feel like the C standard library (however small it is) has more magic than the C++ one.
Variadic packs should not have have existed and tuples should have been in the language, not the library.
01:06
Hm, never thought about that.
@MartinJames I've never missed a flight, but I have been told that the flight has been overbooked
anyhow.. tuple_iterator... interesting
Did you guys know that C's complex thing has operator overloading?
<- tries to think of some clever hackish thingie
or well, it seems like it does.
because you have use + - / * on it
I mean, one could easily iterate over a tuple using a callback instead of a conventional loop-body.. but then it wouldn't count as a proper iterator, ofc.
01:07
@FilipRoséen-refp Bastards.. if that ever happens to me, having paid up front, I'll never fly another inch with them.
    /* Use the macros to define complex constants. */
    double complex z1 = 1.0 + 2.0*I;
    double complex z2 = 2.0 + 4.0*_Complex_I;

    /* Sum and print. */
    double complex z3 = z1+z2;
    printf("%.1f%+.1fi\n", creal(z3),cimag(z3));
@MartinJames I have only done one long flight and that was with Lufthansa. No complaints here.
even the C standard library has more magic than the C++ one
:(
@StackedCrooked Ryanair don't do long-haul. They only have 737's. I can get from UK to the Canaries for vacation, and that's about it.
wait
did people complain about that "operator overloading"?
tbh I find the design of that complex really strange
01:11
dat _Complex_I
It's like a historic monument.
man C's weird. I don't get why they're afraid of adding new keywords to their own language.
breaking change etc but dang
also why shorten thread to thrd
int thrd_create( thrd_t *thr, thrd_start_t func, void *arg );
@Rapptz They're afraid of compomising the essential purity of null-terminated 'strings':)
I got an idea for a tuple_iterator, time for a smoke and then vim time.
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@Rapptz Extremely allergy of top-level types containing vowels.
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strcpy and the like.
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01:14
I was surprised they didn't name it mmcpy
shit's weird
I should invent something called tuplvim.
std::vctr
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Hawt.
01:14
Fck ff.
lave me alnie
oh cool
I have sed on Windows.
@Rapptz Oh - a massive step forward for GUI-kind.
enum {

    thrd_success = /* unspecified */,
    thrd_nomem = /* unspecified */,
    thrd_timedout = /* unspecified */,
    thrd_busy = /* unspecified */,
    thrd_error = /* unspecified */
};
reads like third_success etc
perl -pe > sed
01:17
Anyway, need bed. BFN...
so true
@StackedCrooked are you planning on updating Coliru to gcc 4.9?
yeah, but I need to figure out how to get it installed on my machine
For gcc 4.8 I built it myself but it did require some special configuration flags to make it build. I took me a while to figure all that out back then.
I don't feel motivated to repeat this for GCC 4.9.
So I'm hoping for a quick and simple way.
One can dream, right :)
lol
what OS is Coliru on?
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01:29
AGH
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FOR FUCKS SAKE
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INTERNAL COMPILER ERROR
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gg
> No LSB modules are available.
Distributor ID: Debian
Description: Debian GNU/Linux
Release: n/a
Codename: n/a
lsb_release -a
oh yeah Coliru has a shell
hm apt-cache search for gcc doesn't return any gcc 4.9 results
01:35
hey guys
01:58
One of the funniest bug reports ever: https://connect.microsoft.com/VisualStudio/feedback/details/812643/artery-chokes-after-70-copies-of-visual-studio
Uh oh... A 2 has entered the room.
time to clean the garbage
Thank you
wut a shetty sebsai
@Rapptz Is that... Penn Gillette?
02:02
yes
lol wtf
he is le ebic trash man
1 day i am buy over this websai and kick u all out
6
haha
gtfo
@Borgleader Because most of us need 70 VS Projects open at the same time!
02:04
I just realised this is a 4chan only thing
that would explain why you didn't know about it
im going to spam the shet out of tis site
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
m8
don't even bother
@@@@@
@@@@@@@@@@@
What was that sound?
/plonk
Do you frequent 4chan, @Rapptz?
yes
can someone flag this guy?
this is actually quite pathetic
02:10
answer my qn
plez
Do you need a certain rep to flag chat posts?
noobs
k well
rep 22
that's -2 x 2
easy
02:12
Good point...
If you don't have enough rep, you can't chat at all...
lol he's at -14 now
they're questions too
im turn tis into a sex chat
cool.
@kingboonz I think this page should answer your question.
flagged btw
02:15
I can go else where to see porn if I want it
get your shit somewhere else
2 messages moved to bin
sigh
good job.
sigh.
@Mysticial hey man could you help here?
2 messages moved to bin
Thanks for pinging me. I wasn't flipped to this tab.
hm
I wish chat would automatically kick you if you had sub 20 rep.
There's 54 flags atm.
can we flag that one and call it a day?
coordinated flagging or what have you
02:19
4 messages moved to bin
wait I have a better idea
room mode changed to Gallery: anyone may enter, but only approved users can talk
At least until the flags go through.
room mode changed to Public: anyone may enter and talk
just needed the refresh
guy's at 14 8 rep now anyway
He's banned.
I wish room owner tools didn't suck
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02:23
Well.
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Visual Studio has taken half of my shit
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and 0'd it out with NULs for some reason.
one time I did g++ main.cpp -o main.cpp
so I know how you feel
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02:23
Whatever. I can solve the lua problems later.
@Code-Guru Yeah...
> This account is temporarily suspended for rule violations. The suspension period ends in 7 days.
Oh. It was 7 hours a minute ago. I guess a mod noticed.
yeah chat ban was 7 hours but main account got banned just now
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02:26
....
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My.... my entire Repositories in SourceTree...
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have been exploded.
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GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG WELP BED TIME FOR PHD
Hope you have a backup
:(
no biggie if you pushed them somewhere to a remote
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02:35
So I think we need a new class sol::lua_class
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Either that or I better learn how to mess with table and stack and work the class registration functionality into table
02:46
> 1,196 files were added to your dropbox folder
wtf
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Ehe.
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Sorry.
@StackedCrooked you could upgrade the clang enviroment to use LLVM's c++abi, instead of cxxrt for use with libc++
I've this in my machine =), working nice, and I have less need to -ldl, as I was used to when -lcxxrt
s/this in/done this in/
machine == linux
 
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04:19
Wow, ANIMORPHS-NOVEL.RTF? Just gonna, uh, go through and delete that from all my archives real quick.
3
Is there anybody in there? Just nod if you can hear me. Is there anyone at home?
nod
you missed a user posting pornography to annoy us
Home? More like a dorm >_<
@Rapptz I find the lack of (good) pornography annoying... :-)
That user also said '1 day i am buy over this websai and kick u all out'
04:31
Then again, maybe that means the next few lines apply.
Come on, now,
I hear you're feeling down.
Well I can ease your pain
Get you on your feet again.
@telkitty.exe No big deal. It seems pretty apparent that SO is slowly (or maybe not so slowly) dying anyway. Haven't seen a truly interesting question in months now.
@JerryCoffin I just realized that you aren't able to bin to the bin since you have neither write nor owner access.
I just gave you owner access.
@Mysticial Oh, thank you. I've always found some place to put annoying crap when needed, but access to the "right" one would be handy at times.
@JerryCoffin I put my bet on their other questions and answers site ... although I don't know how SE are trying to differentiate themselves from yahoo answer
that guy really posted 8 porn pictures?
@telkitty.exe Some of the others are doing pretty well, I think. I've been spending some time on the CodeReview site, and find it quite interesting.
04:36
@Rapptz I binned at least 3 or 4 of them after you pinged me to help out.
seems to be 8
@Rapptz Depends on whether you count only quantity, or rate them by quality as well. Reminds me of why I quit bothering with porn years ago--lots of it around, but all seems to be crappy quality any more.
Is it me or SE started to emphasize the idea of community in the past 12 months?
@telkitty.exe I think they're trying, yes. I think it's doing more harm than good though, losing technical quality but gaining little to compensate.
umm, no idea. How do you figure?
04:56
?
Where do you see that emphasis?
One of the most obvious? The community bulletin. Maybe I have not been paying much attention in the past, but nowadays there seems to be a lot of emphasize on community this, community that. Even the chats have been pushed to the front on meta sites & chats are more or less community oriented
05:21
hmm, yeah, I guess. I had noticed the bulletin thing, but I hadn't really thought about it being a "community" thing. So... maybe? I guess? It's not really something I had considered

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