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11:00
In my school they did.
...
multiplication and division have the same precedence
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You school is even more terrible than the usual school.
they are actually the same thing
@thecoshman Integer division is not modulo
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@StackedCrooked perhaps with horizontal bar notation. :v
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11:00
But in that case it makes no sense.
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In my school they paid attention to the precedence of square root wat.
Also order of operations here is no different than elsewhere
Maybe it's a Belgian thing.
When I enter this room I see myself how stupid I am. Thanks for answers!
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@StackedCrooked In Belgium a minute takes fifteen minutes so it wouldn't surprise me.
11:01
@StackedCrooked so 1 / 3 * 2 == 1 / 6 in your school?
Oh, Belgium
Forever in our hearts
yeah, 1 : 3 * 2 would be 1 : 6
@StackedCrooked I doubt it.
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lol colon notation
@StackedCrooked that's ratios...
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11:02
Use an obelus noob.
isn't tony Belgium Chocolate too?
minutephysics had an episode about that shit
@IonicăBizău Untrained!=stupid. Get some more experience.
@CatPlusPlus which shit?
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I used forward slashes to denote division because I was extremely lazy.
11:03
> template<typename... T> void f(T (* ...t)(int, int)); -- why it's not t... ?
That silly "multiplication then division" order nonsense
@CatPlusPlus oh yeah, saying how teaching 'BoDMAS' (or what ever the yank equiv' is) rather than what the operators are actually doing.
@thecoshman : is used for inline division
@CatPlusPlus oh, you mean ÷
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2 mins ago, by rightfold
Use an obelus noob.
11:05
@MartinJames Yeah, you know... I am not a C++ developer and I had today a C++ exam. We learn it in school. And I gave 0.7 answer to such a question. I expected that (int)7/2*3 is 15, but not the expression without any int conversion. Anyway... It's just a baccalaureate simulation. :-)
@thecoshman Yeah I've never seen anyone use that strikethrough
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lol school
@rightfold stop being so esoteric
@IonicăBizău so you should fail it and quit doing C++
@CatPlusPlus equally, I've never seen it not used :P
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11:06
Befunge.
@Abyx No, I know the basics, but it was just a little lack of attention...
the important thing here is that I'm smarter than all of you put together
We use · and :
@DeadMG sure thing
@CatPlusPlus floaty dot for multiplication?
11:08
Today's doodle is a movie here..
I got use to a x for multiplication, and writing a curved x for normally x... it sounded less stupid at the time :S
I use optional parens for multiplication.
@R.MartinhoFernandes (6)(5) ?
oh 6(5)?
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11:09
30
you fucking nut job :S
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6(5) applies 6 to 5.
@rightfold you mean (30) right :P
I don't write out things with numbers that way.
I do everything symbolically and write a single result at the end.
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(((((1)1)1)1)1)(30)(1(1(1(1(1)))))
11:10
@R.MartinhoFernandes x=5;x=6;xy ?
@rightfold (.(.) vOv
Used to get me in trouble with a particular physics teacher because the bitch would compare my results to hers and mine would have introduced less rounding errors and she would take points away for that.
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.)
@rightfold lol
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(.Y.)
Writing it as XML would remove all doubt.
11:11
I can just imagine that.
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<multiplication><integer value='5' /><integer value='3' /></multiplication> is too verbose.
<operation>5 * 3 / 10</operation>
I have a few variables in my code that are things like fuck_error_codes.
@rightfold 5 3 + 10 3 ^ * 8 + (I think...)
RPN is not exactly normal to think about :S
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11:14
@StackedCrooked lol
@R.MartinhoFernandes :lol: education
@StackedCrooked not verbose enough
@rightfold silly you, needs to be more verbose. How do I know that is maths?
or how many SF to present?
@rightfold )))))))
or what number base?
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How would you represent the base?
11:15
Those are single digit numbers.
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"decimal" lol
They're the same in any base with radix >= 6, and invalid in others.
@R.MartinhoFernandes the output changes though, in hex the answer is F, in base 6 the answer is 23
Turns out I had to add glEnable (GL_TEXTURE_2D). But how come it worked for the other texture? — Hrod ruck yesterday
seriously
stop fucking guessworking code
my friend tried to bind VAO after he set up vertex attribs yesterday
I don't get why people are trying to guess how to write code
@rightfold somewhere have 'base="10"'... may be on the inputs and the output (so three locations)
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11:19
@thecoshman In what base is the base denoted?
@rightfold o_0
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In base 10, there are two different digits.
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In base 10, there are three different digits.
it has to be uniary then :S so base="1111111111"
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lol base 1
11:21
or maybe to make it more verbose`highest_digit_in_base="9"` thus base 10
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<base><increment><increment><zero /></increment></increment></base> and now it is in binary!
@thecoshman highest digit in base = 🍌
In base 10 there are 4 hot chicks.
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All your base are belong to us.
11:22
but then this system has to be built to handle certain base systems... up to hex could be done.
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All your base are base 10.
base 🍌+1 or GTFO
@BartekBanachewicz ¬_¬ is that a banana?
@thecoshman of course it's a banana
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No, it is a rectangle, noob.
11:23
@BartekBanachewicz sigh
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What is so funny about std::markov_chain<T>, by the way?
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I don't get it.
I don't get it either
base10: eval("goto " + std::to_string(__LINE__ + 1));
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(I don't get Markov chains either.)
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11:24
@StackedCrooked You have to do that on every line, because the instruction pointer incrementor is broken.
@thecoshman No. That's the same output.
Yeah, there's a button to do it.
@R.MartinhoFernandes oh sure, same value, different representations.
@thecoshman Multiplying two integer numbers results in an integer number, not a string.
@rightfold meh, those are fairly intuitive
11:26
I've been starting to use F19 recently. That key is damn far away.
I need to stretch my arm almost entirely.
I bound F19 to something.
ugh jpg
@Jefffrey what?
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11:27
@BartekBanachewicz Use falconpl.org.
jpg just sucks, everytime, not only for text based images
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JPEG works fine for photos.
@StackedCrooked good lord! what keyboard do you have?
> The answer is stunningly simple: there wasn't any language that completely satisfied the needs I had -- needs that are basic to a professional IT consultant writing performance-critical and heavily multithreaded applications
@Jefffrey no if you want small size of a photo file, duh.
@rightfold not for this one
11:30
it has 30kB
really, why should I post a 2MB PNG just to illustrate a joke
a joke that noone got, apparently.
@thecoshman qwerty
@BartekBanachewicz yeah we get it, use F117 >_>
very funny <_<
:F you're such melaks
@StackedCrooked what keyboard, not 'what loosely defined layout'
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5 mins ago, by rightfold
@BartekBanachewicz Use http://www.falconpl.org/.
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11:33
I clearly did.
@BartekBanachewicz being me is a thing now? :v
@thecoshman Wired Apple keyboard with numpad.
US English layout
@StackedCrooked ... with an F>12 key?
@StackedCrooked aka wrong :P
F>12 key?
11:34
ITT You can be either coshman or wrong.
@melak47 longer story :D
@StackedCrooked function keys higher than 12
@BartekBanachewicz o.O
@StackedCrooked woah, that is mad
yeah, apple keyboards have retarded layouts
well, Cmd key is positioned okay
but the rest is just a clusterfuck
11:36
To be fair, most keyboards do.
@BartekBanachewicz I really don't get why they use american layouts, in the UK though :S
@R.MartinhoFernandes CODE keyboard has nice multimedia keys layout
Jeff Atwood designed a keyboard recently.
@StackedCrooked see above
Where is the 'Windows' key?
11:37
@thecoshman because UK layout sucks even more?
@MartinJames lol
Bad return key.
bigass return keys were the thing
@BartekBanachewicz are the thing
Ham fisted norwegians.
I'd near enough get a big red button on my desk to whack to press enter
11:38
@thecoshman meh, noone really makes those anymore
you know, for when this command is really important
I also have 12 side buttons on my mouse. But i never use them.
@BartekBanachewicz I like the, :(
@BartekBanachewicz Not true.
seriously did someone type in 168 hours
11:42
I wanted to put 168 but I didn't fill the form because I have other plans for that weekend anyway
And the week after
well if the few-day long event passes you can still participate, I guess
Gotta find out how to remove the "not completed" results from stats.
Someone entered 0 for minimum team size.
@R.MartinhoFernandes cheats
@R.MartinhoFernandes someone allowed 0 for minimum team size :coincidence-i-think-not:
I like how Orteil's generator w͔͉̤͖̳͇̰͢i̦͡t͕̦͓̼̯̩̥ḩ̦̬o̷̘̘̜ų̯̗͖̣t̩̜̦̦̟̞ ͎͡s͈̰̲͖̭͞a̝͉͇n̷̻i̮̫̣t͙̬̝͝y͍̹͙̜̤͉ has a significant amount of votes.
(I didn't vote for that)
11:56
@R.MartinhoFernandes stop star baiting!
Xeo
Xeo
tis funny
and probably #defineable in C/C++
You are in an office.
An exits leads to the north. There is a computer here.
> git push
You have broken the build
> go north
2
@Xeo billiant :D
Programming jokes
Finally finished my owner builder online exams ...
12:00
Knock knock.
Who's there?
(very long time later)
Java
3
@StackedCrooked s/Java/<what ever technology it is currently 'hip' to mock>/
> Knock knock.
Who's there?
(very long time later)
I'm here to deliver the C++ executable you asked to be compiled.
Now I am a certified owner builder ... almost ... more paper works to be done (declarations, form filling etc)
12:02
@LightnessRacesinOrbit lol
> according to scientists
Yi Zhang. Got you.
@thecoshman Java's always been mocked for being slow.
But not C++ compilers! It's time to start that.
lol? My name is also on my linkedIn profile if you have bothered to search?
lol
everybody complains about it but few people mock it, last I checked.
12:05
Very easy to find people's info nowaday - thanks google, you have made stalking much easier
@R.MartinhoFernandes mm, that one doesn't work so well
@R.MartinhoFernandes I bash C++ compilation speed everytime I can
C++ cannot into modules.
want to use templates? Here recompile all the code.
@StackedCrooked Why not?
C++ compilation times are great, you can have many a coffee break if you're working
relevant xkcd coming soon
don't bother, we can all remember exactly what it was.
Meanwhile, here in the UK, all the lawyers are on strike. We should enjoy it while it lasts.
That N3951 PDF is a good example of what I mean when I say that LaTeX implementations usually generate poor PDF output.
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I am going to learn Racket. :3
I am going to learn C++
That's what she said.
Nope, doesn't quite work.
12:20
@R.MartinhoFernandes url?
FFS
is that true that rand can have different output for the same seed on different platforms?
@BartekBanachewicz rand has pretty much nil specification.
> • typedef<T*>... this should return assignment operators, dereference operator*, ++, and conversions
from it to it's base classes, but not return any members of T;
@R.MartinhoFernandes FFS
what do I do now
hardcode values
IIRC return 4; is a valid implementation of rand.
Even without the mandatory comment.
amazing
and this is in the C++ STANDARD BESTEST LIBRARY
12:26
It's from C
fuck backwards compatibility with C
just fuck it already
drop the support
burn the code
salt the earth
Bananaman really does not like C:)
C is one of the most terrible languages humanity created
definitely not the most
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Polish.
12:28
Chinese/Korean.
@R.MartinhoFernandes at least return 4 * seed;
C is OK when there is no choice other than assembler. If your ladder has only two rungs, you can only climb as high as the second step.
@BartekBanachewicz use something from <random> ? :)
@melak47 ha ha ha
@BartekBanachewicz ?
12:31
@BartekBanachewicz what's so funny :(
we're still stuck with gcc 4.2 on linux IIRC
good luck
@MartinJames So... C is OK if you have no choice?
@DeadMG Well, 'OK' is a stretch...
"OK" is better
12:33
@BartekBanachewicz we? you at work? :(
oh and r8b NDK
:thumbsup:
@melak47 y
Talking of 0K, where is my new SSD? DPD said it would be here b4 12:00 :(
Maybe there is a tracking thingy..
Aha! 'Your OVERCLOCKERS order will be delivered today between 13:25
-14:25'
Lambda's should be short, functions should be short, classes should be small, ... is there anything that should be long?
your penis
@StackedCrooked testcases lists
12:39
@StackedCrooked long life C++ !
my lifetime
Opening hours.
j/k. actually I wish it will die soon and we'll switch to a better language
like what? Wide?
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@StackedCrooked compile-times.
12:40
dunno. but we definitely need a better one
I guess threads should be long (and tasks should be short)
there's Haskell.
nope
The size type should be long.
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Racket and Clojure.
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12:41
And Emacs Lisp.
Lisp is not going to happen.
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It already happened a thousand years ago.
Well I mean, it won't replace C++
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Nothing will live with it.
Fuck lithp.
12:42
@BartekBanachewicz write a game on Haskell in next Jam then I'll acknowledge it as a "real language" =)
@Abyx hey, my arkanoid is nearly done! (had to take a break from it recently, though)
Lisp is for fans of runtime flexibility.
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Lisp is for me.
I can't stand parens personally.
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Lisp is for Lisp, Lisp is against no one
12:44
lisp is eval
actually I have some hopes for Rust but I didn't try it yet.
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> ((λ (x) (* x x)) 5)
25
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Is it not beautiful?
Meh. Safe pointers are only needed if you suck.
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@Abyx Rust is horrible.
12:46
@rightfold maybe.
@rightfold (\x -> x * x) 5
@rightfold haskell? yeah of course
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@BartekBanachewicz eww.
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@Jefffrey Yes.
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It is valid syntax in Haskell. :v
12:47
@rightfold is it?
*x is a section
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Why would it not be?
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(* x x) is \a -> a * x x
Shouldn't it be (*) x x?
my brain feels derp
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12:48
That is x * x.
@AndyProwl nah, then you're taking the section away
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x x applies x to itself.
As a JS fanatic, I undefined
4
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λ is just an ordinary identifier.
12:50
It's unspeakable.
I don't understand
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un-fucking-believable
the first thing my cat did this morning when I opened the door was to jump on the shelf
@rightfold it's also true
damn shelf
12:57
Remove the catnip from the shelf and replace with coils of barbed wire.
effectively living in a military camp
@Jefffrey litter the shelf with some small sharp objects ... like broken glasses
the same broken glasses of the fucking wine bottle it broke

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