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13:00
const Fur::optional<Primitive&>&
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Yo dawg.... I heard you like references, so we put a reference in your reference to make sure there were references to your references.
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Probably needs more const too.
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const Fur::optional<const Primitive&>& ignore = nullopt
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I like it!
13:02
Left justification is weird.
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Left justification?
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Not just left-alignment?
why are you using Fur::optional ?
btw is optional in C++14 after all?
Xeo
Xeo
13:04
@ThePhD that double reference looks weird
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@BartekBanachewicz Technical specification, but I've written it to look like what's on cppreference.
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@R.MartinhoFernandes I usually only do left-alignment. Justification inserts weird spacing in places. I've never really been a fan.
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Whenever everyone gets their C++ conformance out of the toilet and the standard agrees what optional should feel like, I'll replace my implementation with theirs.
That's full justification.
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A: Covering eyes when saying Shema Yisrael

YEZNefesh HaChaim Shaar Gimmel Perek Beis(1): אבל אדון כל ית"ש הוא מלא את כל העולמות והנבראי' ואינם חוצצים חלילה נגדו יתב' כלל באמת. ואין עוד מלבדו ית' ממש שום דבר כלל בכל העולמות. מהעליון שבעליונים עד התהום התחתון שבתהומות הארץ. עד שתוכל לומר שאין כאן שום נברא ועולם כלל רק הכל מלא עצמות אחדותו ...

See here.
Left-justified RTL text :S
Don't ask why I ended up on Mi Yodeya
user3010322
13:07
o.0
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Robot is looking for a belief to add to his improbability gears.
Now look at the Hebrew wikipedia: he.wikipedia.org
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@ThePhD namespace Fur = std;
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... Whooa @__@
They changed the entire layout to make a proper RTL site
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13:09
For someone like Wikipedia, it's worth it I guess.
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Not so much so for Mi Yodeya? I mean, they're still putting mostly english on that site despite readings and scriptures?
Yes, but it will have a ton of Hebrew in it.
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@Xeo It does, but it works and compiles! Strangely enough.
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@R.MartinhoFernandes Maybe they should get a RTL quote box or something.
You can right-justify parts of the page that use RTL script :ssh:
13:10
Fully RTL paragraphs should default to right justification, I think
Xeo
Xeo
@ThePhD what I mean is, why the fuck is it a reference to an optional, if that optional stores a reference?
Not so clear for bidi paragraphs, though.
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@Xeo I wanted to have it passed in const, and then it became a const reference from there.
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I could just make it by-value, I guess.
Xeo
Xeo
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A: Storing return type and arguments type of a method

AngewFor the return type, you can just use decltype: typedef decltype(SomeMethod(std::declval<SomeType1>(), std::declval<SomeType2>())) ProcRetType; For the parameters, you'll need a helper trait. That can also be used for the return type, like this: template <class Func> struct Helper; template <...

:(
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13:12
Heh.
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Heheheh.
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Isn't it beautiful?~
Aaand I forgot what was the thing for planning meetings called
@CatPlusPlus outlook?
Someone remind me
No
13:16
talking to people?
Gay bar pre meeting ... we are talking about Berlin meet up right?
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An illegal copy is being made somewhere...
doodle.com
My AMAZING search skills
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You're basically google.
@rightfold and @CatPlusPlus either you used yaws? How easy is it too do something like have GET /foo send a request into your own bit of Erlang to do with what you will?
user1804599
13:24
CKEditor y u break with jQuery UI sortable.
IOW is yaws more or less just a 'finished' application or can you use it as a library/framework?
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@thecoshman I have used only Cowboy and it worked pretty well.
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Oh, I also tried gen_tcp and it worked fine too.
@rightfold oh right, does that do the sort of thing I mentioned
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With [{packet, http}, binary].
13:25
@rightfold I don't want to do the whole http side of things if I can avoid it :P
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Damnit.
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optional_ref is hard to get right.
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gen_tcp does HTTP parsing for you if you specify {packet, http} as an option.
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You get request lines and headers as messages.
@rightfold ooh
user1804599
13:26
You only need to extract the length yourself IIRC, switch to normal streaming mode and read the request body, then switch back to HTTP mode.
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But Cowboy is higher level and you probably want it instead.
on one hand I think digging ~fairly~ low level will give me plenty of space to learn stuff in... but on the other, I get pissed of with that shit easy
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Using Cowboy with a supervisor requires some effort though, because it's not documented. I don't know what people usually do.
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But it appears that cowboy:start_http returns the pid of a new supervisor. (Supervisors can supervise supervisors, but you need to specify that.)
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Wouldn't rely on it though.
13:29
supervisor is a thingy to help catch when processes die right?
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Yeah, it can restart them automatically if you want.
oh right right
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If a process exits too many times in a specified time frame, it won't be restarted anymore.
well, that's above what I want for playing around with
http://learnyousomeerlang.com/supervisors
http://learnyousomeerlang.com/building-applications-with-otp#a-pool-of-processes
user3010322
13:30
How do you invoke the destructor on a reference?
Not using OTP with Erlang is counterproductive
to say that not all otherkin are “legitimate” reminds me of that politician who said that not all rape is “legitimate rape”
OTP is like standard library right?
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value( ).~T&( );
@ThePhD References are not things?
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13:31
Oh.
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right.
At some point I will get tired of telling people that.
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Filthy casul references.
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@thecoshman inter alia.
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The interpreter and compiler are also part of OTP.
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13:32
And some analysis tools, Mnesia and a CORBA broker.
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It's basically everything.
no surprise it includes CORBA :P
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I wonder why
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optional<T> has .value() instead of .get()
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13:36
Lol, we got sequence diagrams in college and I realized how nice Erlang fit it.
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It's weird with Java.
This shit stackoverflow.com/a/15736293/46642 got linked somewhere yesterday :< @Xeo
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@R.MartinhoFernandes It's almost at 200. c:
Xeo
Xeo
yeah, I noticed the increase in votes
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@Everyone someone upboat the question to 200!
Xeo
Xeo
13:39
the question is - where :)
sbi also commented yesterday, so I'm thinking twitter
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Seems hacky.
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... But, my body is ready.
Xeo
Xeo
oh, found it
Bearded lambda: <:]{%>; http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15736282/what-is-this-smiley-with-beard-expression
huh
I can't believe I upvoted that shit
and now I can't undo it.
Bah. Is there no good example how to do String lowercasing in Java with ICU4J?
user3010322
13:46
Hm.
Or am I that thick?
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You know what reflection woul really be good for?
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Scripting languages. Being able to bind a class from C++ at runtime with all its goodies into a scripting language.
so basically the same example everyone ever gives? ^^
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That's what i want to do.
13:48
rip Lounge<Kerbal>
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YEEEEAH
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IT WORKS NOW! <3
updates for it were pretty slow
@CatPlusPlus what happened to feeds? I take it that does not keep shit alive :(
user1804599
13:51
@wilx lol I tried googling and found nothing.
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It seems everything is bad.
@rightfold OK, it is not only my fault then. :)
I have found some rule based transformers but that seems overly complicated.
o_0 Damn you guys! I've hit the rabbit hole of learning.
13:54
@R.MartinhoFernandes Aha! I was looking at all the wrong places. :) Thank you.
Xeo
Xeo
@DeadMG 'that shit'? well fuck you too!
@Xeo vOv calm down, he upvoted didn't he!
@thecoshman Musta been on drugs or something.
@DeadMG (don't tell him, but I downvoted it)
Xeo
Xeo
@thecoshman I may or may have been entirely non-serious.
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13:58
@ScarletAmaranth Shadooows!
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I just got told
that missing some visual detail
was a result of keeping toenails under my eyelids.
wat.
Xeo
Xeo
@ThePhD beauty? when did you pick up that ugly habit of placing spaces between parens?
@DeadMG ...
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@Xeo ;~; It's ust something that happens!
14:01
@ThePhD noice ;)
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Just because I'm a space-loving parenthetical phantom, doesn't mean I'm ugly!!
yes it does.
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I DEMAND MY RIGHT TO IDENTIFY AS SOMETHING NOBODY ELSE COULD POSSIBLY ANTICIPATE!
I reserve my right to identify you as "ugly"?
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@ScarletAmaranth I'm going to turn the sphere half-transparent now and see if I can't compute like, a half-red through-lighting.
14:05
oh shit, I've sent a script for encrypting a password with bcrypt with a cost of 2^30
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:3c
it has been running for some minutes now
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It will take years.
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Don't do it.
What's the Lounger's opinion on the crisis in Ukraine?
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14:10
The civil war there?
@TonyTheLion In what regards?
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@TonyTheLion I hope for them they join the EU, but I hope for myself they don't join the EU.
oh right, that thing.
@TonyTheLion Russia being giant dicks because they want to be big and powerful again.
I think it's Nobel Peace Prize material.
14:11
@DeadMG America being hypocritical big deicks because they are telling Russia not to do things that they do.
naw
I disagree.
what Russia has done is way worse than what America's been up to recently.
@DeadMG and regardless of what America has done, I'm not sure how that excuses what Russia is doing
@R.MartinhoFernandes too qwok?
@jalf I don't think he said it did.
14:13
@thecoshman yeah, I wasn't disagreeing with him. :)
WOW, @jalf is not disagreeing. Are you ok?
:P
@jalf Latin for "you too"
@TonyTheLion note the "with him" part ;)
@R.MartinhoFernandes I liked my translation better
this is all way too qwok
14:15
If everybody got along as well as we Loungers did, the world would be a better place. Or not.
"And you are lynching Negroes" (, "but at your place Negroes are being lynched") is an anecdotal counter-argument phrase, which epitomizes the tu quoque arguments used by the Soviet Union in response to allegations that it had violated human rights. The phrase refers to the racial discrimination and lynching in the United States. Origin The use of the phrase as a reference to demagoguery and hypocrisy is traced to a Russian political joke, about a dispute between an American and a Soviet man. There were numerous versions of the quip. In a 1962 version, an American and a Soviet car sal...
Also relevant, I think.
@TonyTheLion fuck everything
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People give too many fucks.
@R.MartinhoFernandes wat?
@TonyTheLion I don't think a world can work on 'meh'.
14:18
The joke is intended to expose the logical fallacy of citing a single boilerplate tu quoque counter-criticism as a general defense against completely unrelated forms of legitimate critique; in the original joke, the American car dealer's argument about the failure of the Soviet system to produce high-quality automobiles or enough
of them to equip their middle class is a legitimate criticism that is not effectively diminished or countered by the (equally legitimate, but utterly irrelevant) counter-point from the Soviet car dealer that the United States has a history of unfair race relations 
(see full text)
man this is a long sentence
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Break it down into multiple sentences.
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Just like you do when you break down long chunks of code into smaller chunks.
@thecoshman meh
Just. Like. That.
user1804599
14:20
Unmaintainable code is bad.
internet communities are good sometimes.
yea
I like this particular community
most of you are nice
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internet communists are good sometimes.
some of you are a**holes
who is an asshole in particular?
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14:21
I am.
@TonyTheLion s/some/all/ you twat monkey
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Bartek im ur asshole.
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That's why I talk so much shit.
alright
@rightfold stop lying you asshole
14:22
website that automatically plays video advertisements, with sound, on page load?
never going there again.
Xeo
Xeo
@tweet_xeo Sick work on Stack Overflow. Have you ever heard of @Ripple ?
I just noticed that tweet.
@Xeo what the fuck
Xeo
Xeo
I should maybe visit twitter more than twice per month
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@Xeo fail.
14:23
buttcoin pyramids again
@Xeo Ripple salad!
@Xeo Why?
I never visit Twitter and I'm not feeling the squeeze here.
Twitter is cool
@Xeo The poop is reaching out
I'd block him on principle
14:26
No, no, no, dear. Little sisters aren't legendary heroes!
lol
Welp I just read through Paranatural
That's like third comic in a week
anyway I have to cut off lounge a bit
will be there mostly in the evenings.
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@sehe Tuple salad.
see you around.
@Xeo WTF does that even mean?
14:29
ಠ_ಠ man (.(.)
@thecoshman NSFW?
@TonyTheLion CURRENCY OF THE FUTURE
buttcoin?
btw
2014-01-??: Moderators can now see who validated a chat offensive flag in the flag dialog.
@TonyTheLion just a cartoon
14:30
@Xeo Sounds like spam. Maybe smart spam, but spam nonetheless. I'd block this too.
@TonyTheLion it has topless women
(.(.) can be countered by hairy legs
Head of Recruiting @RippleLabs
makes them less appealing ...
14:31
@thecoshman Not relevant.
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@thecoshman lol
that bcrypt script is worrying me
@sudorm-rfTelkitty wut? you have the weirdest preoccupations
I've killed it, but apparently it's still running
14:32
Soooo. You didn't kill it
women with hairs are real women. thats what makes them sexy first of all
@Jefffrey use a hammer
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oh we post htop now?
any chance of being able to bother someone with a code related question?
Xeo
Xeo
14:33
Stack Overflow loves being bothered
@staxas only if its a riddle!
im trying to implement oscpack
but i suck at externals
don't suck at externals, that scares them away
im working with eclipse, have run make, added the dirs ip and osc
Then again, don't suck at internals either
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done terrible things to the project properties
it doesnt listen
@staxas Didn't you ask whether you could bother us?
couldnt be bothered to wait for an answer :p
@rightfold 0/10 htop not tree
@staxas Hmmm. That's not quite accurate.
14:34
jk
@staxas "lol" :)
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@CatPlusPlus Tree doesn't work well with sorting.
i have posted a question in the forum
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Normally I always use tree view.
and plonk
14:35
but am getting a little, how should i say it
nm
24 secs ago, by thecoshman
and plonk
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A little non-rules-reading.
@rightfold what exactly is haxxor there
@sehe this, then imagine the legs being hairy ...
i will wait it out :)
14:36
Cheers
@sehe green text
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@sehe termin4lz
um maybe someone has a good link to information about including externals tho?
i have googled, but have not found
@staxas i'm reading. I'd post it /there/, obviously
okey cool
(y)
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14:37
lol
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$ scrot -m
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There is no -u option. :<
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% scrot -um
scrot: invalid option -- 'u'
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Tony The PhD
14:38
why does auto x = { 1, { 0xffu } }; work but auto x = { 1, 0xffu }; doesn't !?
@rightfold # scrotum
what is it with brace initialization that apparently allows more conversions to happen!?
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Because 0xffu and 1 are of distinct data types.
i thought it allows less...
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You can initialise an integer with an unsigned integer.
user1804599
14:39
int x{1u};
but int x = 1u works
so why not if it has two values in the brace
@JohannesSchaub-litb because of op,
or maybe not.
fuck C++ anyways
anyone have experience with blender?
@JohannesSchaub-litb is this a riddle again? It might be somewhat more ambiguous in contexts like return { ... } - or void foo(T const& v = {})
@JohannesSchaub-litb Because they're of distinct types.
1 and 0xffu have distinct types so there's no T in std::initializer_list<T> they can be.
but you can construct decltype(1) from 0xffu
so both expressions can have type int so it's valid.
user1804599
14:54
@JohannesSchaub-litb it creates an initialiser list.
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But it cannot know whether you want one of ints or unsigned ints.
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Augh.
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I have to calculate refraction indices and everything?
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Gross...
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# scrotum
bash: scrotum: command not found
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14:59
@sehe ^

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