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03:01
Yay.
My plugin is now good enough that I can actually document my own stuff with it.
@MarkGarcia Gilles should read I, Robot. It's quite clear he has something against bots. Kind of weird considering he's presumably a programmer.
@Rapptz Dogfood!
Yup :)
@Rapptz Or Firefox's about:robots. :P
I'm sure that'll change his view.
@Rapptz any plans to add it to package control?
I might
03:09
I'd wait for that day :>
It's actually really easy to add things there, it made me sad C++ didn't have something similar.
Yeah. Most of the Sublime community seems to be centred around web devs. That might be turning off the c++ guys.
Haha!
I actually said the same thing a while back.
I should use Sublime more.
@Rapptz cool. trying it out
03:16
@MarkGarcia I like it for the most part.
The only thing that sucks is that all the cool plugins are only for web developers or python.
The problem is I can't find a setting that shows a "open in sublime text" item in explorer's context menu.
Just drag and drop
Also, lol
I hope no one got notified for this. I was just too lazy to do it via CLI :(
hello
Yep.
he's dead
@ScottW I'm fine. It's a different part of country's been hit.
I'm on the southern (mindanao) part.
@ScottW Thanks. :)
03:27
Ah.. my thing doesn't work on Sublime Text 3.
@ScottW It's monstrous. Even if we're considerably far, we still felt strong winds. I haven't slept much at that time.
@ScottW When the storm hit and after the storm hit. Now we're seeing people being desperate.
@ScottW I'm tired, ignore me
03:48
@MarkGarcia I helped test Ziraks bot
I'd offered to rewrite/unify the equation solver and dice roller but got lazy
Okay I put it up for review for Package Control
conversation between @Pawnguy7 and co. over the last hour was... awesome.
huh?
@MooingDuck My ignorance of those bots reminds me that I've never been to other chatrooms.
@MarkGarcia Ziraks bot has been in here a few times, but rarely
03:52
CCInc had a bot here a few times
@ScottW This statement is false.
<SIGDIV0>
04:12
@ScottW double meaning, nice
04:26
@ScottW hurr
I don't get why I have to do a specific push for tags..
Every time I do it it bugs me.
05:02
You absolute-fucking-... shit.
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@Feeds lol. This has happened to me a few times.
He could tag "ridiculous" at the end. It will seem like he's stuttering though.
I liked Megaman on NES.
05:11
haha these are great.
I never owned a console. I could only play when visiting my nephew.
@Rapptz This did seem true in the late 90s.
05:40
I remember that you gained the abilities of the bosses you beat.
Probably not very useful, but hey.
Dammit, that's lame.
I don't know Sonic Youth actually.
The best song is Bad Romance by Lady Gaga.
Not!
no...
I've seen the name a lot.
@StackedCrooked increment(s.data(), s.data() + s.size())
@Rapptz That produces const char*. (I tried it :))
I need non-const char.
Ah right.
@ScottW I haven't heard of them.
I still like the fox song more :P
05:55
@ScottW I suck.
just realized that &*s.end() is probably UB
lo-fi
iTunes created a genius playlist called Indie Rock & Lo-Fi Mix (third row, second column).
I don't even know what lo-fi is.
I recently liked "Cry Like A Ghost" by Passion Pit.
"Instrumental" is a genre that describes itself.
Can't think of any other examples.
Rock is not a rock.
Metal is not a metal.
Technically, you could say that voices are an instrument. (Ok, lame excuse.)
But vocals are often generated with synthesizer. (Does that count as instrumental?)
I don't like describing music with genres because most of them are so fucking vague. I rather say "well this band is similar to this, and this" etc
This band is similar to suck.
right, some you just have to listen to, but for the most part you can probably "describe" using other bands
On rare occasions I re-listen "Panda Bear" (Person Pitch). Crazy album :)
Maybe tomorrow :P I'm so tired right now
06:08
A little noisy perhaps?
Debugging an old app, only to find out the calls to 4square are working, the ones to google API are broken
Also almost that time of the month, I can feel it :'(
@ScottW you actually listen to these tracks?
You need to type [title](url)
markdown :P
Is there something more powerful than markdown, something that can hold variables?
06:14
I used to listen psyradio psychannel a lot in the past.
@ScottW I couldn't really listen to that very long.
The National is getting a lot of airplay here lately.
"I need my girl"
Me too. I saw them live in 2008.
Actually, I first heard Boxer and Alligator later.
I found them on Metacritic I think :)
A couple of years ago Bon Iver decided to give a free concert in Ghent.
When I arrived there was big line on the street.
I gave up after a while :)
I'm saying random stuff. I should sleep. Oh, wait, it's past wake-up time.
> The goal is to cleanup and release the source code that was used to power Lavabit as a f/oss project with support for dark mail added.
@Borgleader buddy from Japanese class works for a game-dev company. they did a kickstarter and received 1 million dollar.
Tempted to pledge
(I may have mentioned this before)
@StackedCrooked Nice, that's a lot for a Kickstarter.
^ They started with a kickstarter, now they handle their crowdfunding. Theyre up at around 28M and gain about 1M/week
cool
never heard of them though
but I rarely play games anymore
^ i wonder if this is correct grammar
sounds fine to me
the guy behind this is the guy who made Wing Commander and Freelancer
so I'm pretty hyped
hair conditioner is a good alternative for shaving cream
It is confirmed - that time of the month ... tummy pain :'(
06:36
@ScottW I can play it once I get back home. At work atm.
Haha. Take your time. Work ends in about 4 hours.
 
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07:53
weird, why is it always rotated 90 degrees clock wise
err
No matter which direction I rotated the picture to, it would not stand up right.
08:05
about the picture?
I have this chat open on my PC and the laptop at the same time
But at they were refreshed at different times
thus the users lists seem to be a bit different.
08:34
Can't you just look at the Lounge directly? lol
very disturbing...
> did that sort of thing once while tripping - sounded like a load of angry chimps let loose in a recording studio - and that is in no way a bad thing
:)
> i... i dont understand. could someone send me to some kind of reference? someone told me to check out merzbow, and i did, and im terribly confused.
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Q: Does auto in C++ 11 make compile time longer?

Kenny Leeauto abc = 5566; As far as I know, compiler knows abc is int at compile time so it will not affect runtime performance. However, does it makes compile time longer?? Thanks in advance.

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lol
08:51
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A: Does auto in C++ 11 make compile time longer?

FredOverflowauto is one character longer than int, so the lexer definitely has to do more work. On the other hand, the compiler no longer has to check that the user provided an appropriate type, so my best guess is that auto will be slightly faster. In the end, you should probably not decide between type i...

> auto is one character longer than int, so the lexer definitely has to do more work.
We have a winner.
follow-up question: is using /* */ for comments faster than //?
guess who's back to fixing Kerberos code!
For once though, I actually (1) understand why it doesn't work, and (2) will be able to simplify and clean up the code while fixing it
@Rapptz That question is about auto in lambda parameters, which is something entirely different.
@FredOverflow Regardless, the answers cover it in a general sense.
08:57
Not that it really matters, but is const auto&& an rvalue reference or a universal reference?
rvalue
the const is unnecessary
So auto&& a = some_var; will compile, but const auto&& b = some_var; won't? :)
user1804599
@FredOverflow not fully deduced.
lol
Mark posted something.
auto&& a = return_lvalue will make a an lvalue because of reference collapsing iirc
So.. I guess that makes it a universal reference
09:01
not with const
lol Fred's posted a question about const T&& before
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Q: Do rvalue references to const have any use?

FredOverflowI guess not, but I would like to confirm. Is there any use for const Foo&&, where Foo is a class type?

That question's gonna get on the multicollider. lol
@Mysticial sad, it's a duplicate.
and a dumb one no less
@Rapptz const Foo&& is not at all the same as const auto&&.
I know.
Also @MarkGarcia don't use real.
09:06
@Rapptz I don't care! I'm DOSing Coliru! :P
@Mysticial lol, "nice answer" already. Maybe I should concentrate on writing short answers for easy questions in the future...
stainless steel
Xeo
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@FredOverflow Actually, it is.
09:15
does const auto&& not go through reference collapsing?
It does not.
I see.
Xeo
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auto&& (or T&& if T is a deduced template parameter) is the only form that is specifically treated as a "universal reference".
@ScottW yep
Yeah, I like :)
Most of the bands in your top 10 I don't know.
Hehe. Deleting my post. Should have made it with templates.
09:20
Aphex Twin is a long time ago. I should check it out.
user1804599
auto is slower because of dynamic typing is slow!
@rightfold yes, I tell people all the time but they won't listen!
Xeo
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@Mysticial It's already there...
@rightfold I tell them auto is a like an automobile. It works on all roads, but you pay for that compatibility with performance. Using the object's unique type is like a bullet train. I only works for that type, but it's much faster.
The rule of lesser characters is faster may still hold, as the system have stabilized as the programmer typed characters, which means more resources for the compiler. :P
user1804599
09:22
dynamic all the way!
@MarkGarcia lesser characters is slower, it's a classic example of size/performance tradeoff
@ScottW it's the speed that matters :P
@ScottW hey!!!
user1804599
@StackedCrooked fewer
09:32
@ScottW I'm alright.
you?
user1804599
Huh.
user1804599
git checkout - y u no work.
user1804599
Oh, I deleted that branch. :v
you suck.
user1804599
We all suck.
09:41
I don't.
'cuz I don't need to. we have you, right?
I don't usually suck, but sometimes I do ... depends on what ...or for whom :x
I feel like my team is in some sort of paradox, the closer we get to finishing this small project, the more people get taken of the team
@ScottW ohhh
09:57
well, why do you need so many people on a almost finished project?
10:08
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@ScottW oh baby I need your momentum <3
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Wait a moment.
10:32
rather quiet in here today
Waiting
@R.MartinhoFernandes Wow. TIL
Could be worse, Java: 'The last message was posted 3 hours ago'
Pa1
Pa1
can anyone give me c++ function for finding minimum edit distance between two strings
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No
10:38
@Pa1 rm -rf /
you are assuming he's using linux
@CatPlusPlus In my experience the type system can sometimes serve as a thinking tool.
A compiler error sometimes makes me realize that I'm trying to do something that is conceptually wrong.
@StackedCrooked Never seems to happen to me. I usually get much further down the line, wasting more time, before I realize that my overall system design cannot possibly work:(
@MartinJames Maybe because you design top-down? (I find that bottom-up design usually works better than top-down.)
@StackedCrooked Yes, me too. At least, the drivers, comms etc. that I have sweated over early on are still required.
10:48
The worst projects I have ever worked on were top-down, with designs thrashed out in meetings between departments before a single line of code gets written. Months wasted before the first integration test reveals a humungous conceptual cockup.
@MartinJames That reminds me of the duct tape programmer, described by Joel.
Nowadays, everything is agile ... most project are anyways
user1804599
“ECMAScript” isn’t a trademark, is it?
10:53
Heh...
now think about it, agile is more bottom-up
although it is not entirely so
My best was at a system house where the first integration test of the complete system failed immediately because there was no route betwen the racks of peripheral controller cards, (on an isolated 'lab' LAN), and the management system, (on the office LAN).

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